1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: your host, Georgie Stevenson. I am a lawyer, tend health coach, 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: social media influencer, wife and dogmam. On the Rise and 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health, 5 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: relationships and more. This is a podcast for women who 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: want to rise up to be the best version of themselves, 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: who have big dreams in who are willing to put 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: in the work to get there. I want to bring 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: you the tools and actionable steps to feel confident in yourself, 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: inspired to take bold action, and motivated to conquer your goals. 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: Are you with me, your friends, Let's rise and conquer. 12 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Hi guys, and welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. Today, 13 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 2: I have a very special guest for you. Sammy Rose 14 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: or better known as Sammy Rose Fitness. Sammy is a 15 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: Brisbane based personal trainer and online health and fitness coach. 16 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: From being overweight in her early twenties to competing at 17 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: her leanest state in nine bikini shows, she now lives 18 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle and focuses on living her healthiest, 19 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: happiest and most balanced life and teaches her clients and 20 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: followers to do the same. Today, me and Sammy are 21 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: chatting about how to stay motivated after you have conquered 22 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: a big goal, how to give yourself permission to pivot 23 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: when your goals change, completely stepping into your power and 24 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: feeling confident while doing it. Plus we go into an 25 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: in depth chat about Sammy's experience going from her corporate 26 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: job to now owning her own business and all the 27 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: goods to end bad that comes with that. 28 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: I am so excited to get into this with you guys. Hi, Sammy, 29 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: how are you today? 30 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: I'm great. Thank you so much for having me on board. 31 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: I'm so excited for this podcast. 32 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to speak to you today. 33 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: So right back at you, guys. So Sammy is actually 34 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: in New York and it's snowing and in Brisbane it's 35 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: like thirty six degrees, which is so hot. So we 36 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: were just talking about how crazy the weather difference is. 37 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: It's such a contrast crazy. 38 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: I want to get straight into it. And something that 39 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: I ask all my guests is what is something big 40 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: or small that you were rising up and conquering this week? 41 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: Oh? Great question. Probably the biggest thing on my list 42 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: this week is just to get into routine because I 43 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 3: am such a creature of habit and I've been traveling 44 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: for the last two weeks all around America and I've 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: finally settled into New York and I'll be here for 46 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: a little while, so I kind of just want to 47 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: get myself set up with a morning routine, an evening routine, 48 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: getting back into the gym regularly. So that's my big 49 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: one for this week. 50 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Perfect And what sort of things are you doing for that? So, 51 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: like you said, getting into a morning routine, have you 52 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: sourced out a gym or like your local shops and 53 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: all that sort of thing. 54 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the last couple of days, I've been just adventuring around, 55 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: kind of trying to get my bearings. I signed up 56 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: to a gym yesterday just for like a temporary contract. 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: It's so cool, but it's so expensive, but worth it 58 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: if it keeps me motivated. And yeah, I've bought some groceries. 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to do a little bit of meal prep 60 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: this week to just get me back to my normal. 61 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: I basically while I'm here, because I'm here for almost 62 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: two months, I want to feel like I'm doing the 63 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: same kind of things that I would do at home, 64 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: but with a lot more fun exploring. So I don't 65 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: want to get too into a holiday mode in terms 66 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: of eating junk food every single day. 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm exactly like you, like I've such a creature of 68 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: habit and any time I travel, I yeah, straight away 69 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: need to set up a routine. It may be different 70 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: to when I'm at home, but I love that. 71 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least, you know, get into the regular sleeping patterns. 72 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: I think that's probably my biggest one, is just figuring 73 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: out what time I want to go to sleep and 74 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: what time I want to wake up, because there's such 75 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: a big time difference, so in terms of you know, 76 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: if I need to chat to clients or you know, 77 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: friends or anything upt until after midnight at the moment. 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: So I'm trying to find that little sweet spot of like, 79 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: how do I want to get through my days and 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: still be able to have time to sleep and have 81 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: time to train and have time to adventure every single day. 82 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: So I'm getting there. 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: Well, have fun at rising up and conquering that one. 84 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll do. Go up. I want to talk 85 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: to you about I want you to give sort of 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: the audience just a bit of snapshot with your previous 87 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: experience with doing fitness shows and then sort of the 88 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: post show experience if you can just get in to 89 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: a little bit of that. 90 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: Sure, I started competing when it was my first show, 91 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: early twenty fifteen, so my first contest preps started in 92 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: like late twenty fourteen, and at that point i'd lost 93 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: probably like thirteen ish kilos already, so my highest weight 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: was seventy five kilos. I'd been on a bit of 95 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: a fitness journey over a few years. I'd lost a 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: bunch of weight, and I really thought that competing was 97 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: just that like final thing to get me over the 98 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: edge and get me hitting my goals and seeing what 99 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: my body was capable of. So I got stuck straight 100 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: into working with a coach. I did my first show 101 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: May of twenty fifteen, and I ended up doing nine 102 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: shows in total in the space of a little less 103 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: than two years, which is quite a lot. There was 104 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: not a lot of break time in there. There was 105 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: one period where I had maybe like a three month gap, 106 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: and aside from that, it was pretty much like show 107 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: after show with a few weeks in between to kind 108 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: of relax, but never really enough time to reverse diet 109 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: and get super healthy. So I stayed pretty lean for 110 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: a solid two years, and not to really a very 111 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: healthy level. To be honest, it was intense. It was 112 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: a journey. It's something that I look back on now 113 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: and I honestly like, I look at photos of myself 114 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: and I can't even recognize myself because I was this tiny, 115 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: little bobblehead and I had this amazing passion and drive 116 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: for what I was doing, which was awesome, But I 117 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: just I don't feel that same way anymore. So it's 118 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: kind of funny to look back on like old YouTube 119 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: videos when I was prepping and just see a completely 120 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: different person. But it was a wild ride. It was 121 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: a massive learning experience for me, and you know, I 122 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: got to learn what my body was capable of. I 123 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: had no idea I had banging abs under there, so 124 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: that was kind of cool to discover. But it had 125 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: its positives and it had its negatives. So in terms 126 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: of my body, I was probably looking at at the 127 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: time what I thought was my best i'd ever looked. 128 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: You know, what I was my leanis I had a 129 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: six pack. I was getting all these compliments, but I 130 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: was doing some really unhealthy levels of like cardio and 131 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: restriction to get there. So as much as there was 132 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: some really high highs with competing, there was also like 133 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: a few negative implications that have kind of spilled over 134 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: to post show, which became a little bit of a 135 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: struggle for me. 136 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, after you stopped competing, how did sort of your 137 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: body respond? 138 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: Not very well? So I was in a very long 139 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: period of restriction towards my last shows, in particular because 140 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: I had done so many back to back shows. I 141 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: really had to go on like super low calories, almost 142 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: two hours a day of StairMaster just to lean down 143 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: for like my final couple of shows that I was doing, 144 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: which was March twenty seventeen, so almost two years ago now, 145 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 3: which is so crazy that's gone so quick. But pretty 146 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: much when I did my last show, I wasn't sure 147 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: if it would be my last ever. I just knew 148 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: I needed a really solid break and at least, you know, 149 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: the remainder of the year off. I wanted to just 150 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: get back to eating like a normal person again and 151 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: not dieting and not having to do all that cardio, etc. 152 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was a struggle because I had been 153 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: so restrictive and I was starving for so long. I 154 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: was on almost a thousand calories, so it was quite 155 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: quite a restrictive diet. Yeah, it was not a fun time. 156 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: So I pretty much rebounded in the opposite direction, and 157 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: I found I was having a lot of trouble with 158 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: binge eating just because I was coming from such a 159 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: restrictive place and I suddenly had this freedom that I 160 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't have to diet for anything. I 161 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: could eat cookies if I wanted to. I could eat 162 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: you know, three servings of desert if I wanted to. 163 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: There was nothing, you know, there was no rules in 164 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: place anymore that was stopping me, and there was no 165 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: immediate goal of getting on stage in a bikini to 166 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: kind of make me think about it twice. So I 167 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: found it really hard. For the first I would say 168 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: four to six months, I found it really difficult to 169 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: regulate my eating patterns. It wasn't so much like willpower 170 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: that was the issue. It was more just like I 171 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: had this compulsion this almost like if I started eating 172 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: a treat, I had that kind of screw it mentality 173 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: where I'd be like, it's okay, I'm going to start 174 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: again tomorrow. I'm just gonna eat everything I can tonight, 175 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: almost like as if this food was going to run 176 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: out and I was never gonna be able to eat 177 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: it again. It was crazy, and it's something that I 178 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: guess I had experienced here and there in my life previously, 179 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: but not to the extent post show that I did, 180 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: where yeah, I was over eating three or four times 181 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: a week and significant like two or three days worth 182 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 3: of food in one day, just because I just felt 183 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: like I couldn't stop. It was crazy. It took me 184 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: a while to get out of that. I would say 185 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: at least four months, probably more like six months, where 186 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: I got to a point where I felt in control, 187 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: I could make balanced decisions. I could go for dinner 188 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: and eat something that was a little bit of a 189 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 3: treat and leave it at that. Whereas I think initially, 190 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: like as soon as I ate one thing that in 191 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 3: my head was bad, it kind of sent me off 192 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: the rails. So learning to stop associating foods was good 193 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: and bad or you know, if I was off track, 194 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: you know, seeing that as like a failure really pushed 195 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: me over the edge. So I kind of had to 196 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: really learned to not diet at all, basically and just 197 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: completely let go and reintroduce freedom of being able to 198 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 3: eat what I want, but learned to do that within 199 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 3: reason in a healthy way. It was a wild ride. 200 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: Oh god, I can imagine. And so obviously you would 201 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: have gained weight post show. I just want to talk 202 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of sort of dealing with that. I 203 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: know a lot of girls who compete and then gain weight. 204 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: It can be a bit of a mental struggle. Was 205 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: that the same with you? 206 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely? I think there's definitely a certain amount of body 207 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: fat that you do need to gain post show because 208 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: the body fat levels that you are on stage aren't healthy. 209 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: They aren't optimal for everyday function, They're not great for 210 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: your sex hormones. You know, when I was competing at 211 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: my leanest, I would lose my periods. So those kind 212 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: of things. You know, you have to gain a little 213 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: bit of weight. You know, five to ten percent of 214 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: your body weight coming back on is what you kind 215 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: of want to be working towards to get you super healthy. 216 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: But I definitely exceeded that. So I ended up gaining 217 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: about fifteen kilos in the space of Yeah, that sort 218 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: of three to six month window, and that was a lot. 219 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: Like I'm quite a small short person. I'm one hundred 220 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: and fifty six centimeters, so that was quite an adjustment, 221 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: and none of my clothes fit me anymore. That was 222 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: definitely like the biggest that I had been in several 223 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 3: years since before I started competing. It was hard, especially, 224 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: I guess doing that in the public eye on a 225 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: small scale, but you know, to have forty or so 226 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: thousand followers watching me gain this much weight and feeling 227 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: really uncomfortable about it, it was difficult. I felt like 228 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: I had to censor myself in a way as well, 229 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: because I knew that I wasn't fat. I didn't want 230 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: to talk badly about myself, but I was also at 231 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: a point where I was uncomfortable with how I looked, 232 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: and I wanted to be honest about it without kind 233 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: of having any like problematic language that would offend anyone. 234 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: So it was a really tricky one because I like 235 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: to be really open and honest. You know, I told 236 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: people that I was binge eating. I touched on that 237 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: I was feeling a bit uncomfortable, but I didn't want 238 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: to sit there and be like, well, poor me, I'm 239 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: so fat, because you know, I wasn't. I just was 240 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: learning to adjust to being a little bit bigger. Yeah, 241 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: there was a period where I guess I didn't really 242 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: like looking at myself in the mirror. I wasn't really 243 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: taking a lot of selfies, and I kind of had 244 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 3: to push that aside and focus on other things about 245 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: myself that I loved while I kind of waited for 246 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: my body to balance itself out. 247 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: I love that. What sort of other things did you 248 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: sort of focus on? What sort of mind shifts did 249 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: you make to sort of get through that time. 250 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: I set up a few little tasks for myself so 251 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: that anytime I was feeling really negative about my body, 252 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 3: I would try and replace those thoughts with more positive thoughts. 253 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: So whether that's if I was picking on one body 254 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: part that I didn't like, maybe I would find another 255 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: part that I did like. Like, for example, my hair 256 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: looks really great today, so I'm going to just look 257 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: at that instead of picking apart that my stomach looks fluffy, 258 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: for example. That was one where I would try and 259 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: just like replace negative thoughts and also non body related 260 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: things that I would focus on, So things about my 261 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: personality that I like or that other people like about me. 262 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: You know that I do a good job with my business. 263 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: I tried to often, yeah, just make little lists of 264 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: things that made me feel good about who I am 265 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: as a person outside of the way that I looked, 266 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: because that was something that I guess being so lean 267 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: for so long and having most of my Instagram growth 268 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: come from that period where I was really lean, I 269 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: was very tied to that my body was my identity. 270 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: So when I kind of lost that body, I felt 271 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: almost like I had lost myself. At some point, I 272 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: really had to reconnect with who I was as a 273 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: person and try and find those things that I love 274 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: about myself that have nothing to do with how I look. 275 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, making little lists and positive affirmations was great. 276 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved that. Like you know, I went through 277 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: a similar thing where my body sort of gave out 278 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: on my lifestyle where I was overtraining and under eating, 279 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: and I definitely went through a period of putting on 280 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: weight and people would comment on my photos and be like, oh, 281 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: you're not as lean, you look fluffy ut and it 282 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: would kill me and dide. But like you, I refocused, 283 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: and I focused on strength training. I focused on how 284 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: much I could live rather than you know, the scale. 285 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: And then for me, I also had to take a 286 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a step back from social media and 287 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: sort of get out of it, and like you said, 288 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: reconnect with myself and be okay with myself away from 289 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: social media and away from identifying myself just with my body. 290 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: And so I love that you touched on that. 291 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And I mean people can be rude. I 292 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: know we've spoken about this before and had chats about it, 293 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: but yeah, sometimes people will just tell you, wow, you 294 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: got fat, and you're like, brutal cool. You just don't 295 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: even know how to respond. 296 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: I know. I definitely just used to either delete the 297 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: comment or just not look on it or anything like that, 298 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: and I yeah, it's just it just happens. I guess. 299 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: I feel like there's so many positives. We're creating a 300 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: personal brand online and like things like you get to 301 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: connect with like minded people. I definitely use my accounts 302 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: as accountability and inspiration and motivation in my own life 303 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: and all that sort of thing. But it definitely comes 304 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: with some negatives when your personal brand is connected to 305 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: your body. Do you agree with that? 306 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely? I think more so I felt the pressure internally though. 307 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: I felt at one point like I had built a 308 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: brand based on one particular look, and then when that 309 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: look changed, I was a little bit hesitant and nervous 310 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: to kind of rebrand myself because I was like, wow, 311 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: all these people have followed me for one kind of vibe, 312 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: you know, the competing and the intense drive that I 313 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: had been and you know, the abs that would go 314 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: on the Explore page and go viral, and I just 315 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: I didn't have that anymore. So it was definitely hard 316 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: having built a brand on that. But I've been so 317 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: so fortunate that when I did kind of pivot into 318 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: more of an everyday normal kind of gal, most of 319 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: my following stuck with me and then, you know, continue 320 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: to grow. It can be really hard when you are 321 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: your own brand and then you want to then go 322 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 3: in a different direction. It's a little bit scary, and 323 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: you don't know if people are going to sort of 324 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: follow with you or if they're like, Okay, that's not 325 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: what I signed up for, and that's perfectly okay. But yeah, 326 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 3: that shift was a little bit difficult. So I think 327 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: just being true to yourself and being honest about your 328 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: journey is probably the most important thing, because you know, 329 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: I tried to tell my followers what I was experiencing 330 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: and kind of take them along the journey of how 331 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: I was feeling about gaining weight, how I was, you know, 332 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: getting myself out of binge eating habits and all of 333 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: those negative mindsets and coming out the other side a 334 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: different person. I guess because I showed that journey, it 335 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 3: was a little bit easier for people to shift with 336 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: me and support the new direction that I was going in. 337 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: I could not agree more. And I think that's such 338 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: a big thing, Like in society, a lot of people 339 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: struggle with like I said previously about you know, my 340 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: fitness change, about going more into strength training and eating more, 341 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: and then also with my personal account, I had that 342 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: big change of I had for a long time been 343 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: a law student and then got admitted as a lawyer, 344 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: and like you kind of said, I did feel this 345 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: sort of resistance and almost I felt a bit ashamed 346 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: that I was then pivoting and following a different Actually, no, 347 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: I won't stay ashamed more of it. I was scared 348 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: of what people would think, and I was scared that 349 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: they wouldn't want to follow me anymore because I knew 350 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: a lot of people followed me because you know, I 351 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: did work a corporate job and all that sort of stuff, 352 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: and I felt scared to sort of make that change 353 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: and make that pivot. But like you said, something that 354 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: really worked is just being authentic and saying, hey, here's 355 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: my truth, this is how I'm feeling, and being really 356 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: true and honest with yourself and your audience and that 357 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: sort of thing. And I found that people responded so 358 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: well to that and they were so understanding. 359 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think the transparency is really important. And I 360 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: mean both of our followings are kind of built really 361 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: on people connecting with us on a personal level, so 362 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 3: I think it's different to just a straight up fitness 363 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: inspiration account for example. You know, if they started posting 364 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: completely different content, it wouldn't really be relevant. But I 365 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: guess because people sort of more connect to us as people, 366 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: it's easier for them to shift and grow with us. 367 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: And I actually even had some great feedback in the 368 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: opposite direction where I thought, I thought people wouldn't relate 369 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 3: to me anymore, because you know, they wanted that crazy, 370 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: shredded kind of gal and I thought maybe I wouldn't 371 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: be inspiration anymore. But I've had people since gaining weight 372 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: and learning to sort of embrace the normal body type 373 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: and embrace more flexibility. I've had people direct message me 374 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: and say, actually, you got a little bit much for me. 375 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: When you were competing. I didn't feel like it was 376 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: a positive influence on me. I thought maybe you're a 377 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: little bit too restrictive. It was a little triggering for me, 378 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: and I actually unfollowed you. I'm so glad that you 379 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 3: are more positive now and you're more an everyday person. 380 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: I've followed you again, and I really liked what you're 381 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: about now, So I got some really great feedback in 382 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: that kind of aspect. So that's been really nice and 383 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: really rewarding that people have come along this journey with me, 384 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: and I think I think I'm definitely a better influence 385 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: now than I was, and I didn't realize it at 386 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: the time. Glad I can kind of be a bit 387 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: more realistic for people. 388 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I love that I had similar feedback, So 389 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: I love that. I just want to touch on you know, 390 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: if someone is a bet to pivot change something big 391 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: in their life and maybe they're going in a completely 392 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: different direction, whether it's career or whether it's a body 393 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: goal or something like that, do you just have any 394 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: sort of tips or sort of guidance with stepping out 395 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: and feeling confident in pivoting and making that change. 396 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: I guess just to jump straight in. Honestly, if it's 397 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: something that you're passionate about and it's a direction that 398 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: you really want to go in, you just need to 399 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: follow your instincts and go with it and take out 400 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: the fear of what other people might think or the 401 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: fear of failure, and just throw yourself into it. Because 402 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing in life that holds us 403 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: back is worrying about either failing or worry about what 404 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 3: other people will think of you. And I know, for 405 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: myself and for my own journey, like those two big 406 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: things have held me back from so much in my life. 407 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: And as soon as I learned to kind of ignore 408 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: those negative thoughts and just do what I thought was 409 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: best for me, when I really flourished and learned to 410 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: be more confident in myself. 411 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: Ah, I could not agree more. I am just such 412 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: a big believer in You will feel it. If you're 413 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: living a life that just it does not feel good, 414 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: it is better off to sort of step out. You 415 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: may be scared, you may have fears, but when you 416 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: sort of step out, and you do something for yourself 417 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: and you can feel it in yourself that no, this 418 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 1: is the right direction. It just is. Honestly, it's so freeing. 419 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: I feel like any big decision that I've made where 420 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: I was worried about what people think or anything like that, 421 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: and I just step out and I do it and 422 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: I make it, it feels freeing. And the feeling that 423 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: you get inside is it feels good. 424 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: It's scary to start with, but it is always rewarding 425 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 3: if it's the right thing and if it's the thing 426 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: that's going to make you the happiest. 427 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like it's always if you're listening to 428 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: yourself and you're doing it for your it's always rewarding. Okay, perfect. 429 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a bit of a pivot with this conversation, 430 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: and I want to talk to you about Obviously, you 431 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: are on Aline fitness and health coach and you have 432 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: your own clients and all that sort of thing, and 433 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: I just want to talk to you just about venturing 434 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: off doing your own business sort of what that looks like. 435 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: Have you always been an online fitness coach or did 436 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: that change at one point? Tell us about that. 437 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: No, I was not always an online coach. If anyone 438 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 3: knows me from back in the day when I was 439 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: in high school, I was probably the least athletic person 440 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: you would ever find. I was not into the gym 441 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: or anything like that. So I honestly would never have 442 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: pictured myself being a personal trainer. So it blows my 443 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 3: mind every day, the complete pivot I've had. I actually 444 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: was working in retail head offices for most of my career. 445 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 3: Actually in my early twenties, I was a buyer, working 446 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 3: with all of the design teams to for Lorna Jane 447 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: head office and Country Road head office. And yeah, I was. 448 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: I was a corporate gal. 449 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: Sounds so funny. I actually didn't know that. 450 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, fun fact for you. I was really good at 451 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: my job and I loved it and it paid really well. 452 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: But I guess my passion for fitness kind of grew 453 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 3: as my own journey progressed and I was seeing how 454 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 3: amazing it made me feel, and I actually was really 455 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 3: it was pure luck that it fell into my lap. 456 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: Almost I did a boot camp. Gosh, it would have 457 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: been like twenty eleven or something like that, twenty twelve maybe, 458 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 3: and one of the prizes at the end of the 459 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: boot camp was like a scholarship to be a group 460 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: fitness instructor so to do like the first stage of 461 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: your PT course, and I ended up being awarded with that. 462 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: They obviously saw potential in me. That's kind of how 463 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: I got started, and it was just the group fitness 464 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: instructor part of the certification. But I did that because 465 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: I was like, cool, it'd be really fun to be 466 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: part of these boot camps and be a trainer, Like 467 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 3: I'll just do this on this and then I started 468 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: the course, I fell in love with it. I continued 469 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 3: on to do my actual personal training certification and nutrition certifications, 470 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: and the more I learned, the more I really fell 471 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: in love with it and realized me changing my life 472 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: to be healthier and happier and fitter has really made 473 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: such a difference to me, so I kind of wanted 474 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: to give other people that feeling too. So I've only 475 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: been a personal trainer about three and a half years now. 476 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: I'm still in the early stages. And I did work 477 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: in a PT studio when I first got certified, and 478 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: I was running a bunch of boot camps and that 479 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: was really fun. But I was just getting a lot 480 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 3: of demand through Instagram, I guess to take on people 481 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: as an online coach, and it was still in like 482 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: the early stages back then, I suppose it was not 483 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: like a super common thing, but I did take on 484 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: a couple of clients just because they were into state 485 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: and they really wanted to work with me, and I 486 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, great, you know I can't train them 487 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: in person, but I'm going to write them a program, 488 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: and I helped them out with their nutrition and see 489 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: if I can get them some results, and it went 490 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: really well from the get go, and it just kind 491 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 3: of escalated from there. So that's kind of how I 492 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 3: got into coaching. And I was still doing that on 493 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: the side while I was working at Lorna Jane head 494 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: office for the first I think probably a year, so 495 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: it was just my side hustle initially, but it just 496 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 3: continued to grow and I felt amazing helping people. So 497 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: I just kind of took the plunge and quit my 498 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 3: job and went full time. And it was scary. I 499 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 3: didn't really ever kind of see myself running my own business. 500 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: It was not really something I had ambitions towards. It 501 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: was a little bit left of the field for me, 502 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: but I just took the risk and it definitely paid off. 503 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: You know, my business is going really well and I'm 504 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: now yeah, about three years into the online coaching side 505 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: of things, and I have an amazing team. I've actually 506 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: got two people working with me now to help me 507 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: out with some tasks and stuff. 508 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: So oh, that is so amazing. I just love it 509 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: because I just know how passionate you are about your business, 510 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: and the fact that you can make money off your 511 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: passion is just it's the best system. 512 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: It's such a blessing. And I mean there's a lot 513 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: of hours and a lot of long nights, and a 514 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: lot of being on hand for clients pretty regularly, because 515 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, there are people that don't really know what 516 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: to do with their health and fitness journey, and they 517 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: have a million questions and they need a lot of support. 518 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: So sometimes it can be kind at taxing, but it's 519 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: so rewarding, and any of the small little negatives that 520 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 3: it might have with running your own business, it's so 521 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 3: far outweighed with all the positives of being able to 522 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: help people feel better, you know, with little things that 523 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: I do to help improve their lifestyle. I have people, 524 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: you know, telling me I'm more confident now, so my 525 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: sex life with my partner is improved, or I have 526 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 3: more energy because I'm actually fueling better. I can play 527 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: with my kids in the afternoon and all those kind 528 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: of things. Just you know, it's not just about teaching 529 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: people how to lose weight. That's not what I'm about. 530 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: It's bettering people's lives through taking care of themselves better. 531 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: Oh. 532 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: I love that. That's so amazing. Like you said, you 533 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: did not initially ever think that you would own your 534 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: own business or anything like that. I want to kind 535 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: of talk about what I guess the pros and cons 536 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: of working for yourself and doing it by yourself. 537 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: All right, well, we'll start with the pros. You're running 538 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 3: your own business is great in terms of being your 539 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: own boss and having freedom of your choices. You don't 540 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: have to report to anyone. You can kind of dictate 541 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: your own hours, which is amazing. 542 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: You know. 543 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: I'm so fortunate that I can travel and take my 544 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: laptop with me and go to amazing countries and still 545 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: keep my business running. So that's definitely, you know, the 546 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: most I think amazing thing about running my own business. 547 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm pretty blessed to have that. But in terms of 548 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: the cons. I would say probably I struggle the most 549 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: with time management because I don't have a boss, you know, 550 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: I kind of toe the line between. Some days I 551 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: feel really unmotivated, I don't want to do anything. I'm 552 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: always obviously like prioritizing clients, but sometimes I have a 553 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: giant pile of like projects that I procrastinate on and 554 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: there's no one there to tell me to do it, 555 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: so that can sometimes be tough. But then I ask 556 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: you completely towards the other end, and sometimes I'm super 557 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: motivated and I'm like intensely working and burn myself out 558 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: because I'm trying to do too much at once. And 559 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: I think that's that's probably the biggest con for me 560 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: that I experience, is just like managing my time a 561 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: little bit better so that I can get like consistent 562 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: working hours instead of going from yeah, just chilling out 563 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: having a Netflix day because I just can't to like 564 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: having six weeks straight off twelve hour days because I'm 565 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: just like so excited about something I'm working on. So 566 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: it's hard being your own boss. 567 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. I went through a bit of 568 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: a stage like that where it took me almost like 569 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: six months to eight months. To even find that sweet spot, 570 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: I had to start I would just work all weekend 571 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: and all weeks. So I had to start actually implementing 572 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: giving myself a whole day off, which sounds ridiculous, like 573 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: if I told my old me that, I'd be like, 574 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: what the hell, But it's so easy. I think it's 575 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: so easy to get caught up with. I'm such a 576 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm definitely a driven person, and so sometimes I'm out 577 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: with my friends and in my head, I'm going, you know, 578 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: I could be working, i could be furthering my business 579 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: or something like that. So sort of finding that in between. 580 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: But also, like you said yesterday, I was just not 581 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: feeling it. I'm getting my monthly. I was in one 582 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: of those moods and I could have easily just sat there, 583 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: had a Netflix day. It was all too much. Whereas 584 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: obviously if you have a boss, you have to sort 585 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: of bring it every day. Is there's definitely pros and 586 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: cons for both sides. And something also to add with 587 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: a pro is something I was thinking about the other 588 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: day is the creativity. Obviously, because I came from a 589 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: corporate job and so did you. Something that I've really 590 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: noticed is previously, especially because I work for a law firm, 591 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: there were so many processes to do anything, whereas now, like, 592 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: if I want to do something, I can just put 593 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: that into gear and make it happen and really like 594 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: streamline and basically be creative with any way I put 595 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: it out, whereas you know you can't necessarily do that. 596 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you and I are both really the 597 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,239 Speaker 3: same in that way. If we get an idea and 598 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: we get like so passionately excited about it, we're like, 599 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: we need to do this. Now. You did the same 600 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: thing with your ebook. You had your idea you want 601 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: to do your ebook, and you just started working on 602 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: it straight away. And I did the same thing with 603 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: my ebook relaunchers. I was like, Okay, I think I'm 604 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: going to rewrite my ebooks, and then all of a sudden, 605 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: I was throwing myself into it, writing eight new ebooks 606 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: and you know, getting them edited and doing a photo 607 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: shoot for them and filming a complete training library, all 608 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: within this short period of a few months, because I 609 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: was just like, Okay, I want to make this happen. 610 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it. So it's great that we 611 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: can do that, because I think, yeah, you're right, if 612 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: you have a really good idea. In a job where 613 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: you have a boss, they might not even like the idea, 614 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: and you might be so excited about something that you 615 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: want to start working on and they just say no. 616 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: So at least, you know, with what we do, we're 617 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: so lucky that if we have an idea and we 618 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: want to make it happen, we can just make it happen. 619 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 3: So it's pretty great. 620 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: I definitely enjoy the autonomy of my job. 621 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 622 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: One of the last questions I just want to ask you, 623 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: and I guess this is for someone you know, if 624 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: they want to go and venture and start their own business, 625 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: start or maybe even start their side hustle, much like you. 626 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: I was doing my side hustle for years while I 627 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: was working full time, and so you definitely got to 628 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: start somewhere a bit. What is five things that you 629 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: wish you could tell yourself when you started your own business. 630 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: Oh, great question. I guess firstly, just learning to be 631 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: self motivated was a big one for me. I did 632 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: kind of rely on a bit of external motivation when 633 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: I was employed. You know, you had deadlines that other 634 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: people would set for you and all that kind of thing. So, 635 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: you know, being your own boss can be hard in 636 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: that way. You really do have to be self motivated. 637 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: So just getting a routine and making sure that you're 638 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 3: organized with to do list, just to keep yourself accountable. 639 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: That's probably the biggest one, because I was kind of 640 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: wigging it in the beginning and until I really started 641 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 3: to structure my to do lists in terms of like 642 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 3: breaking it down to what do I need to do today, 643 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 3: what do I want to achieve short term, and what 644 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: are the things that I want to achieve long term 645 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: and making sure that I'm kind of ticking things off regularly. 646 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: That was a really big one for me, to just 647 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: get things moving. 648 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: Love it couldn't agree anymore. 649 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: Probably I wish someone had prepared me for the fact 650 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: that online coaching has no off switch. It is definitely 651 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 3: a seven day week job, and especially pairing that with 652 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: my business relying on social media, which is almost a 653 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: job in itself in terms of keeping up with direct 654 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: messages and comments and posting content. For me, it's definitely 655 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: a seven day week thing and was not what I expected. 656 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: I thought I'd have a lot more time off, but 657 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: I do have the flexibility of, you know, a lot 658 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: of half days, so even though pretty much every single 659 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 3: day I'm chatting to clients. There's a lot of time 660 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: that sometimes I'll work two hours in a day or 661 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: something and that's it. So that's kind of cool. But yeah, 662 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 3: I just didn't really prepare myself for being available so much. 663 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: So if that's something that someone wants to go down 664 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 3: that route, just just be prepared. People will want a 665 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 3: piece of you at all times, and it's fine as 666 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: long as you prepared for it. 667 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: That's something I was thinking of when I was sort 668 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: of thinking of this question is as much as it's 669 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: amazing to have the flexibility of owning your own business 670 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: and making your own hours, I think a lot of 671 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: people don't know how many hours and how much time 672 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: you actually need to put in, especially at the start 673 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: of getting anything off the ground, Like it's a lot 674 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: of time and effort. And I think if you don't 675 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: have the passion, which for me is what sort of 676 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: drives my business, it's really sort of difficult because without it, 677 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: things just don't seem to happen. 678 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 3: Absolutely. What am I up to? Three tax That was 679 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: one that got me. When you're employed, your employer pays 680 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 3: your tax for you and takes that out of your 681 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: pay and I obviously like when you're self employed running 682 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 3: a business, you don't pay your tax until the end 683 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: of the financial year, and wow, you need to make 684 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: sure that you put money aside for that because that's 685 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: a lot of money that you have to hand over 686 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 3: all at once. So now I pay mine quarterly. That's 687 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 3: something that makes it a lot easier for me with 688 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: my accountant. But yeah, if you want to be self employed, 689 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: you make sure you put at least twenty five to 690 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: thirty percent of your income aside for tax time and 691 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: for gst if you hit that threshold, because that'll catch you. 692 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: Number four. I guess it is just like how rewarding 693 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 3: it is. It's really cool to be your own boss. 694 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: Definitely put that in the pros column, that it's a 695 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: really cool thing to be able to dictate the direction 696 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: of your career and move things as quickly or as 697 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 3: slowly as you would like to, or change direction, or 698 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: you know, incorporate new projects and stuff like that. I 699 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: think definitely that's something that motivated me once I started 700 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: and I realized how much flexibility I had and how 701 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 3: much fulfillment it gave me doing what I do. It 702 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: made me really really glad that I took the risk, 703 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 3: because I obviously, like weighed up a lot of pros 704 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: and cons before I quit my job and jumped into this, 705 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 3: and you know, I was like, oh, it'd be cool. 706 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: You know, I'll make money. I had some pros and cons, 707 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 3: but I think the biggest one was just the sense 708 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: of fulfillment that I get, not just from being able 709 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: to run things my way, but also like being able 710 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 3: to help people was a really good one. Last point 711 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 3: I guess is good things take time. I started off 712 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: really small. I definitely did not do things as efficiently 713 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 3: back three years ago as I do now. My business 714 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: is constantly evolving, My processes are evolving, my target market 715 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: is constantly evolving. It's definitely changed over the past few years, 716 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: and that's a good thing. I think I'm at a 717 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 3: really good place right now with my business. I'm happy 718 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 3: with the amount of clients I have, with the kind 719 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 3: of clients that I'm attracting. I have an amazing team 720 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 3: of girls that I work with that I'm so so 721 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 3: proud of, and you know, it took me a while 722 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 3: to get here. I don't think any online coach is 723 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: going to go straight from zero to one hundred and 724 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 3: be super successful or any business in general. But I 725 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 3: think like, if you put in the work in the 726 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: early stages, you know, started as a side hustle, build 727 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: it up over time, throw yourself into it when you 728 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 3: need to, it will definitely pay off. But I think 729 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 3: being open to the fact that it will take time 730 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 3: and you will change things a million times before you 731 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 3: find that thing that works for you, that just starting 732 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 3: to keep in the back of your mind. Because yeah, 733 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: it's definitely paid off for me. But the amount of 734 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: almost mini rebrands I've had of my business over the 735 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 3: years has changed change what I do pretty dramatically. But 736 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 3: I'm happy I've landed in a good place now. 737 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I loved that last point so much. 738 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: Like something I just want to add is be ready 739 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: to struggle, but enjoy the struggle. 740 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely makes a success more happy and exciting. And you're like, yes, 741 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 3: I got through it and I did this. 742 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, makes it way more rewarding. Sure, nothing good comes easy. Okay, 743 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Sammy. I've enjoyed this conversation so much. 744 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm feeling like a bit motivated now that I've spoken. 745 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: I want to go and get I feel like that work. 746 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 3: Every time I talk to you, I feel like that. 747 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: Oh I love it. Well, thank you so much for 748 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: coming on the show. Before we go, I just want 749 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: to kind of let the audio and know where they 750 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: can find you if you have anything amazing happening at 751 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: the moment and all that good stuff. So just let 752 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: them know your Instagram, your website, how they can get 753 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: in contact with you if they do want one on 754 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: one coaching and all that sort of stuff. 755 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: Awesome. Well, my Instagram is Sami Rose Fitness Sami just 756 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 3: one m and my website will be linked through my Instagram, 757 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 3: but it's Samirosfinness dot com. I do have a range 758 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: of training ebooks and nutrition guides on my website, but 759 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 3: if people want to get in touch in terms of coaching, 760 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: they can just send me an email, which is Sami 761 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 3: Rosfitness at gmail dot com and on my online store. 762 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 3: I actually have I forgot to mention this earlier. I 763 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 3: have actually a free twenty eight day mindset Makeover challenge, 764 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 3: which is part of the tasks that I was kind 765 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 3: of doing myself when I was learning to be a 766 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: little bit more confident with my body, and I think 767 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: that would really help a lot of your listeners. So 768 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 3: that's completely free and downloadable from the link in my 769 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 3: Instagram bio. It's called twenty eight Mindset Makeovers, just full 770 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: of lack, a bunch of self development tasks to get 771 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 3: you in a more positive mindset. It's not specifically health 772 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 3: and fitness, but it is sort of tailored around learning 773 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 3: to love yourself more outside of just being a body. 774 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 3: So I think that'd be a really cool one for 775 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 3: people to download completely for free. 776 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: And that is it amazing. Thank you so much. I'm 777 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: actually going to go and download that a twenty eight 778 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: mindset guy. 779 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 3: You sure you would love it. 780 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: Obviously. I do a lot of stuff myself, but I 781 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: love just having a reminder, so I'm going to do it. Also, Guys, 782 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: I will leave all these links in the show notes 783 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 1: so you can also go there and check them out too. 784 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: But we are now going to wrap this episode up. 785 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Sammy and I shall talk to 786 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: you later. Thank you. 787 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: I had a blast. 788 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: Always, Thank you so much for listening in. If you 789 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: like this episode, make sure you suscribe to the Rise 790 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 1: and Conquer podcast so you don't miss the next one. Also, 791 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: if you found this podcast valuable, it would mean the 792 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: absolute world to me if you wrote the podcast a review. Plus, 793 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: if you know someone who would benefit from listening to 794 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: this episode, make sure you share it with them. If 795 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: you want to go beyond this episode, check out our 796 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: official instagram at Risinconquer dot podcast or my personal instagram 797 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: at Georgie Stevenson. I hope you have an amazing day 798 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: or night whenever you're listening in Bye for now, and 799 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,479 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon. 800 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 3: Passsssssssssssss