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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch Up podcast. It is Flex and Frooms

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<v Speaker 1>on Cada. And I've had one of the coolest experiences

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<v Speaker 1>in the whole wide world. Long story short, I went

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<v Speaker 1>to a dinner party with a friend I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>in so long. It was me, my friend, her boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>and her. Is it a coworker when you're both actors?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so yeah, Pier Pier Peer peer Pier.

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<v Speaker 1>And I brought up Divergent because I really do enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>young adult dystopian novels because I think they create this

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<v Speaker 1>really amazing framework for us to see where we're going.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is dystopia so popular for younger doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I don't read it now, But

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<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, like in high school, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of what I read was like dystopian novels. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I was thinking about how I remember I told

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<v Speaker 1>you that all of digital data are stored in a

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<v Speaker 1>physical place. Talk to travel long about it, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>and we were saying that one of two things are

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. It's going to become really really expensive

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<v Speaker 1>to store data. Right now, it's a couple of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on iCloud per month, So it's going to be limited

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<v Speaker 1>to those who are you know, really rich, or those

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<v Speaker 1>who can afford it, or we're going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>a point of maximum saturation where you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>delete the data. And I was like, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have another burn the books moment. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have another burn the books. When like, it's you're the information, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to save the world, so you are the information.

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<v Speaker 1>And then together we well, basically I started talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a book concept that I want to write, and they

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<v Speaker 1>kept asking me questions about the book and I was

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<v Speaker 1>ideating with them, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have a manuscript.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, So I'm going to be an amazing dystopian fiction author. Babes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cooking, I'm cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cooking. I'm cooking. I'm cooking and cooking. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to change my life. I look forward to it. It's sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Any updates to me. Nah, I'm chilling. Okay, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okta, Flex and Frooms. You're listening to Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>What the frick? I'm not sure about you. Flex, But

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm thinking about the topic of babies. You have

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<v Speaker 3>sex with somebody, or perhaps you have artificial insemination, and

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<v Speaker 3>together it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>To create a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, correct, This has occurred through time, immorial. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the first baby was created in a tube, a test

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<v Speaker 3>tube baby in the nineties in Australia. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 3>Monash IVF the first and it's kind and since then

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<v Speaker 3>leaps and bounds have been made when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>assisted reproduction. But of course as technology continues to evolve,

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<v Speaker 3>there's the ability to edit the genes and edit your baby.

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<v Speaker 2>So I subscribe for a newsletter called New World, Same Humans.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you going about? You just about this break?

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<v Speaker 3>And this guy writes about like new technologies and then

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<v Speaker 3>gives his two cents every week and it's really great.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called New Week, Same Humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Substack.

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<v Speaker 3>You can google it and.

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<v Speaker 2>You can google it and sign up.

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<v Speaker 3>He was talking about a peace that was published in

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<v Speaker 3>the Journal of Science this week, and the study asked

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<v Speaker 3>respondents if they'd use embryo selection and or gene editing

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<v Speaker 3>technologies to create children who are smarter and more likely

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<v Speaker 3>to get into a top ranked college. The respondents were

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<v Speaker 3>told to imagine that these techniques are free and safe,

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<v Speaker 3>neither of which is currently true, and a full thirty

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<v Speaker 3>eight percent said they'd use embryo selection and twenty eight

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<v Speaker 3>said they use gene editing, Which means that our data

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<v Speaker 3>suggests that it would be unwise to assume that the

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<v Speaker 3>use of PGTP, which is gene editing, even for controversial traits,

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<v Speaker 3>will be limited to idiosync critic individuals, or that it

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<v Speaker 3>has little potential tocourse or contribute to society wide changes

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<v Speaker 3>in inequities. In other words, gene editing humans may be

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<v Speaker 3>just around the corner. So get ready for some seriously

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<v Speaker 3>weird and terrifying implications.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about this more on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to ask you, FLEXI, if you had the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to edit your child, you would be spawn and

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<v Speaker 3>make it smarter, cleverer, hotter, insert quality that you want here.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you do it? It's a big question.

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<v Speaker 3>So, despite the fact that it was a real struggle

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<v Speaker 3>for me to get that last few sentences out.

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<v Speaker 2>First time you read the article, you know I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Busy weeks, I'm busy rollerblading. So do you think that

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<v Speaker 3>you would edit your baby if you have the chance. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let's start with like the first what do you think

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<v Speaker 3>of this? Let's sart with the first hear of this?

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<v Speaker 3>If you wanted your baby no, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You go, no, you go. I'm doing this thing where

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<v Speaker 1>I make rooms form her own thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not true and that's not nice. I'm literally doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll notice every day today, You'll you'll for all of

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<v Speaker 1>your breaks that it's a question.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be like what do you think? Flex? Like what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think for me?

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<v Speaker 3>And then answer a question because I love to hear

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<v Speaker 3>you speak, because usually just default to what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Flex? And then you're like, okay, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't, that's untrue. You are biased. And you

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<v Speaker 3>also think before made me do that? Fucked would you bother?

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<v Speaker 3>And then you didn't answer it? So yeah, checkmate, that's

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<v Speaker 3>how the game goes, respectually. Checkmate. Well, I'm asking you,

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<v Speaker 3>would you choose a gene editor to baby if you

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<v Speaker 3>had the option?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Why? Because I don't think it's smart to play god.

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<v Speaker 2>It never works.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think that these things with the best intentions,

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<v Speaker 1>I think evil always prevails, and I think we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the slippery slope quicker than we think that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to It's like we talked before about deep fakes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ha ha ha funny until you know you're now implicated.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just Donald Trump being deep faked Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Pattinson in a funny way, it's you being put in

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<v Speaker 1>precarious situations, or your voice or your likeness being put

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation where you can't defend yourself or opt out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, people have talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>people have spoken for years and years and years how

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<v Speaker 1>you can have the best intentions with eugenics and like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, but I'm just gonna give my baby

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<v Speaker 2>blue eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why I'm just gonna make sure my baby doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any diseases, which ones I'm just gonna be my

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<v Speaker 1>best baby, the best fighting chance of being you know, intelligent?

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<v Speaker 2>How how you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And now we're gonna quote unquote breed out qualities or

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna create homogenized race. And also the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna have access and the resources and the money

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do this does mean the same

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<v Speaker 1>white people, the same like hectic uh Nazi fucking Ariyan

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<v Speaker 1>community being like we're just gonna breed more of ours.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading about because there's this new philosophy called

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<v Speaker 1>long termism.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me find the Google place the Google definition.

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<v Speaker 1>So, long termism is the ethical stance which gives priority

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<v Speaker 1>to improving the long term future. It's an important concept

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<v Speaker 1>in effective altruism and serves as a primary motivation for

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<v Speaker 1>efforts that claim to reduce existential risks to humanity. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's this group of billionaires who've created this elite club

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<v Speaker 1>of basically encouraging other billionaires and elite to procreate and

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<v Speaker 1>to commit to giving birth to at least ten children

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<v Speaker 1>to essentially nurture and create and raise the type of

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<v Speaker 1>people who be able to save the world. They're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you can't rely on the common man. We

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<v Speaker 1>elites need to commit to extending our bloodline and being

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<v Speaker 1>here and not falling to the trap of not wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to have kids for whatever reason. It's not about us,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about the future, etc. So No, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to play god. I just don't think it's good, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of us are, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would take even me, like, I'm not at the place

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<v Speaker 1>where I've fully decolonized my mind and what I think

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<v Speaker 1>and how I feel enough to be parenting let it

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<v Speaker 1>alone enough to be choosing what I want my kid

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<v Speaker 1>to look like and be made up of facts.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, Like it's I just immediately think of

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<v Speaker 3>like the funny things about it. But of course it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's like AI, how it has all of these un

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<v Speaker 3>what funny things like the idea of being like in

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<v Speaker 3>the sims, like picking what your baby looks like, like

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine in a funny way. I don't think of

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<v Speaker 3>it in an actual practical way. But yeah, you're so

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<v Speaker 3>right about how, like we talked about with AI, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a particular type of person that's making it so

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to have like unconscious bias that bleeds into it,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I, like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, even with like us talking to smarter child on

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<v Speaker 3>MSN and ow like how I'm not very nice to

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<v Speaker 3>my Siri. I don't actually use Siri because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>find that it works very effectively. Like the other day

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<v Speaker 3>I was messaging flex and it put us in a

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<v Speaker 3>group chat with another random chick that I haven't spoken

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<v Speaker 3>to in ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't blame.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so funny, Yeah, gene editing, it's shocking to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's not really shocking that it's happening, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess people are always going to be playing with

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So which.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think as well, because I wouldn't say I'm superstitious,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think if you did that and intervened, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got no issue with. Like, I think it's cool

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<v Speaker 3>to see technology like this happen, Like if people didn't

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<v Speaker 3>start going down this route, then they wouldn't be like

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<v Speaker 3>egg freezing and insemination all that kind of stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Even that back then I think was considered a bit

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<v Speaker 3>like is this even like ethical to be making a

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<v Speaker 3>baby in a lab?

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<v Speaker 2>Per se?

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's like interisting from a technological point,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's very dystopian and I can imagine. Yeah, they've

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<v Speaker 3>obviously been problems with different things being preferential, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not really like how humans were designed, right, it's not regular.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll watch this space. We are every day a step

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<v Speaker 3>closer to Black Mirror. And once I watch too much

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<v Speaker 3>Black Mirror in the school holidays that it sent me

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<v Speaker 3>into a exidential crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>So real.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll maybe just pick other things from this newsletter

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<v Speaker 3>that aren't super scary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally going to cost us millions of dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>have a kid, and I plan to have a spoiled

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<v Speaker 1>nepotism baby. I just can't afford to also be doing

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<v Speaker 1>tweaks before it evening exists.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do tweaks on the ground, post production, tweaks, after care,

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<v Speaker 3>after care.

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<v Speaker 2>Add on tin. You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Cada.

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<v Speaker 3>You're on Cada. It's Flex and Froomes. We're with you

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<v Speaker 3>from three to five pm. Welcome back. Something that we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about on the show, whether I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or not, is dating.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have a love line someone who sent in

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<v Speaker 3>this dilemma to us, and we're going to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>it and perhaps provide answers that are either illuminating or

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<v Speaker 3>totally ridiculous. True you decide. This title is Queen of

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<v Speaker 3>the lead on. I went off for dinner and drinks

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<v Speaker 3>with the guy for the first time and had a

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<v Speaker 3>really good night. Normally on the type to chat with

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<v Speaker 3>them a little more before meeting up straight away, but

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<v Speaker 3>we had mutuals and he seemed normal enough. That's fair,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it. It can the badly, but we'll go

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<v Speaker 3>with that. Things were going so well, so I invited

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<v Speaker 3>him back to my place for the night overall good night,

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<v Speaker 3>so we know the deed was done. Fast forward a

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<v Speaker 3>week later and I hung out with him again, same

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<v Speaker 3>good vieb and good time, and he said he had

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<v Speaker 3>a surprise for me. It was something that I'd mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to buy myself but never got around

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<v Speaker 3>to it. I was shocked and it was really sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I've since been looking up gifts online, ah, because it

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<v Speaker 3>was an antique and it's possible that he spent up

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<v Speaker 3>to three hundred dollars on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm touched that he potentially spent quite a fair amount

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<v Speaker 3>of money on me so early on, and I get

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<v Speaker 3>the vibe he may not be on the same page

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<v Speaker 3>as me, although I thought I'd been pretty honest. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>keen to see where things go, but don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I ready to jump into the deep end with anything

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<v Speaker 3>too serious. Am I overthinking this or do I have

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<v Speaker 3>to keep stating that I'm a casual girly.

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<v Speaker 1>As stated during our previous hangout.

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<v Speaker 3>We have since messaged her to ask her what it

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<v Speaker 3>was that the gift would be because I'm thinking this

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<v Speaker 3>is jewelry, sis, you gotta run for the hills, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but if it's maybe something a little bit more like

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<v Speaker 3>I think buying jewelry is like bfgfgfgf bfbf status. Apparently

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<v Speaker 3>it was a set of Lee Lee Crusette, those like

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful Dutch ovens, and he sounds a lead French Lee Crusette. Continue, Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>deer lingo secret sidekiing and it was sentimental with her

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<v Speaker 3>for her because her grandmother loved to use la croquettes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that it's too much?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that if you've said that you want to

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<v Speaker 3>keep things casual, if we're going by the law of

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<v Speaker 3>like what books tell you to do to make it

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<v Speaker 3>look nothing like I'm either all in or all out

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm not into you, and then you start doing

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<v Speaker 3>real sweet stuff like I'm freaking out, I'm feeling trapped,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm feeling claustrophobic, and it sounds like you're not into

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<v Speaker 3>this guy, like you're looking for something casual, which you've

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<v Speaker 3>been very clear about, and he's taken that as a

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<v Speaker 3>sign of need to win this chickover. I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>take the la crusette. Okay, they're expensive and you've got something.

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<v Speaker 3>Once a guy gave me a Shane Warn cricket ball

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<v Speaker 3>whoa and I am a big Shane Warn fan. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was a really beautiful moment. But of course, like

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<v Speaker 3>if you break up with the person, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>do with it? Does it have to do you have

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<v Speaker 3>to keep it? Do you have to change the story up?

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<v Speaker 3>I say, just accept.

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<v Speaker 2>It for what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that gifts do not equate to ownership.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm I'm likely to agree. I have been thinking

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<v Speaker 1>recently that a lot of us don't allow ourselves to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the benefits of romance for fear of it coming

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<v Speaker 1>across as wanting more. So it's like you're only in now.

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<v Speaker 1>You're only allowed to be really intimate with a person

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<v Speaker 1>and buy gifts and be romantic if you're going to date,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just feel like you're going to date more

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<v Speaker 1>people than you You're going to casually see more people

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<v Speaker 1>than you end up partnering with, And so why can't

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy the experience of extreme intimacy without the title

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<v Speaker 1>like your gift, make it fun, take the gift, enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say you have to keep emphasizing you've already

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<v Speaker 1>done more than en half, which is, you know, set

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<v Speaker 1>your intentions early on. But I think if you start

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<v Speaker 1>getting uncomfortable with it because you feel as that this

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<v Speaker 1>person's not respecting your boundaries, then obviously be like, hey, babe, back.

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<v Speaker 2>Off, happen. Something's gonna happen. Yes, something's gonna give. This

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<v Speaker 2>is flex and firms on Kata.

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<v Speaker 1>Has technology gone too far? Some might say it's not

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<v Speaker 1>gone far enough, considering that back in my day when

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about the future, we expected keyless entry.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we have keys in twenty twenty three? Why

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<v Speaker 1>isn't everything I need my doors to be pushed to

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<v Speaker 1>start and good pook open?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are the flying cubs?

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<v Speaker 1>But even then, like I just feel like there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cyber anything. The fact that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what don't know what my vitals are by just

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<v Speaker 1>like scanning the chip in my wrist, it feels our cake.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you want us to be caven so badly?

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<v Speaker 1>But in good news? Because we are making progress in

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<v Speaker 1>the death industry when it comes to so thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for stepping up, you know, the overlords of the funeral

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<v Speaker 1>environmental anyway, the digital anyway. According to Body and Soul,

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<v Speaker 1>the digital eulogy era is here thanks to tombstone QR codes.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a gen z write that headline? Someone over the

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<v Speaker 1>age of forty did not pen that one, and I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that they've said. A new way to learn about

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<v Speaker 1>your ancestors could become commonplace. Thanks to the merging of

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<v Speaker 1>technology and grave sites, gravesite QR codes are officially becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a way to pay tribute and share the stories of

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<v Speaker 1>a person's incredible life beyond the grave. This idea came

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<v Speaker 1>to be by this US based engineer and inventor, Michael

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<v Speaker 1>bork bourk b o u r Que, who decided to

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<v Speaker 1>make a QR code for his late father's headstone as

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<v Speaker 1>a way to honor his dad's incredible life with others

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<v Speaker 1>who may be passing by the grave. So he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much to know about my dad. He lives

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<v Speaker 1>such a rich life, and nobody knows that aside from

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<v Speaker 1>me and the people who lived with him. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this small thing so people can honor him

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that he deserves.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>So, if you scan the QR code on Michael's dad's grave,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll link to a website that goes through his life bio,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he lived through the Great Depression, and

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<v Speaker 1>he served in the Korean War and he worked on

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear testing sites in the Cold War. Like, okay, that's CVCV,

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<v Speaker 1>my Kay's king and so it's just a modern take

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<v Speaker 1>on keeping the memories alive for loved one. Sounds great

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<v Speaker 1>in theory. In practice, I'm a bit confused. If something

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<v Speaker 1>happened to you through me untimely of course, and someone's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make a digital gravestone, I'm very concerned about what

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<v Speaker 1>they would gather and put front and center, because even

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<v Speaker 1>though you're not living a double life, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna want a few professional accolades, not you

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<v Speaker 1>doing like Shrek cosplay and talking about ghosting on CATA.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, could we nominate and is this something that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to like self curate before you die, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know were like the main image updating that.

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<v Speaker 3>So my current Instagram picture is weak of me with

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<v Speaker 3>a Karen haircut, and honestly, people say that it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like Balahad did, so that's why I've kept it there.

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<v Speaker 3>I have like a lot of future proof things that

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<v Speaker 3>I've done, like on Facebook, my best friend like gets

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<v Speaker 3>it if I die in an untimely manner. Also, digital

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<v Speaker 3>wheels are happening, and my mum just added me to

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<v Speaker 3>her will.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn your mom's text savvy.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, and I just thought, I don't know how she

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<v Speaker 3>did that.

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<v Speaker 2>So what it did?

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<v Speaker 3>I got this email saying you've just been added to Xyza.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to do anything with this, but this

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<v Speaker 3>is the email that's on file, And I'm like, that's crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we're really making this stuff digital, which feels so

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<v Speaker 3>antithetical to what death is.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't access that email account.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, what if my internet's down? But yeah, it's good

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<v Speaker 3>to know that we're making how do you say? We're

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<v Speaker 3>making waves in the death industry, which is very important?

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<v Speaker 1>Okita flex and fromes flex and froms. Everybody thinks they

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<v Speaker 1>have the capacity to participate in hypergamy. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>act of dating or marrying up, marrying rich, marrying successful, capitalistic.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing. I'm not gonna say you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will say, have you ever seen a prenup

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<v Speaker 1>of a billionaire? Have you ever seen what's required? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I managed to get my hands on. Mark Zuckerberg's through

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<v Speaker 1>a friend with a friend, and I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this and tell me if you have the capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a TikTok from Hello, prenup.

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<v Speaker 4>What does someone like Mark Zuckerberg put in their prenup? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>from what we've heard, he's got some pretty interesting clauses,

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<v Speaker 4>like the alleged clause that mandates the two of them

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<v Speaker 4>spend of one hundred hours of a long time per.

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<v Speaker 2>Week outside of the office.

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<v Speaker 4>But outside of those more quirkier terms, what are the

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<v Speaker 4>financial terms we think he has in the prenup. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>to no one's surprised, it's likely that he's kept his

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<v Speaker 4>interest in Facebook separate, and the majority of Facebook assets

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<v Speaker 4>are said to be in intellectual property. This includes designs,

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<v Speaker 4>this processes, algorithms, and more. So we believe it's highly

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<v Speaker 4>highly likely that he's included a clause to protect his

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<v Speaker 4>intellectual property to ensure that it's stays separate in the

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<v Speaker 4>event of a divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>He really said hands off my pokes, sis.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, I want quality time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my level.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred hours that's more than a full time job,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's contractual that we do two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>full time jobs of quality time together a week. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>How does he get the time?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is the thing. He's kind of like you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the clause that you have to spend time with

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<v Speaker 1>him so he can be doing what he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing. You just need to be present at all

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<v Speaker 1>times accessible.

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<v Speaker 2>That can't be real. Why not you see the source?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Prina. On a competitive side, I've cited my sources. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot like I feel like even if let's

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<v Speaker 1>say that was the only clause. If you want access

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<v Speaker 1>to this wealth, if you want access to any IP

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<v Speaker 1>that's not Facebook and meta related, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>share your life with me, clock on to full time jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>What's one hundred divided by seven seventy? No, fourteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thirteen ish. So every waking moment you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be spending with your king.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the billions are billioning it all.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say, if you're with someone in Hawaii, doesn't really

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<v Speaker 3>matter who the person is, Just like, dissociate and enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>the fartestar accommodation and the nobrew dinners.

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<v Speaker 1>Get room clover, what's the big deal anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>Look your stuff in the bathrooms. You've been listening to

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<v Speaker 2>the Flex and Frooms Daily podcast.

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