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Speaker 1: Podcasting. Now what we have I honestly think one of

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Speaker 1: the most interesting guests we have ever had, arguably the

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Speaker 1: hardest person we've ever had on this show as well.

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Speaker 1: Have a listen to who this is Our next guest

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Speaker 1: has been a bodyguard to the best. Now it's time

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Speaker 1: he talks to the rest. Formerly in the essays, he's.

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Speaker 2: Undertook hundreds of missions around the world, doing things ranging

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Speaker 2: from reducted do as well as all.

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Speaker 3: Of that, he's been a bodyguard to the stars, looking after.

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Speaker 1: Angelina, Jolie, brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, and the Gladiator himself reducted.

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Speaker 1: He may have been trained to resist interrogation, but can

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Speaker 1: he resist will and Wood? He's ill researched for planned questioning.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome to the shelf the bodyguard himself, Mark Billy William.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark Billy William, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: That's the best introduction I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: Ah, that's good, mate, that's pretty I suppose. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, given the people that you've been looking after,

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Speaker 1: you probably used to them getting very big introductions and

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Speaker 1: you sort of just stand there an eyeball the crowd

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Speaker 1: looking for somebody hiding a revolver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's me, the little sweeper at the back mate

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Speaker 3: that do anything but working silent, That's me.

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Speaker 2: And to name a few of those names here, Billy,

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Speaker 2: I mean, gee whiz. We've got Angelina, Joeline brad Pitt,

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Speaker 2: We've got Sean Penn, We've got Russell Crowe, We've got

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Speaker 2: Tom Cruise, we've got Kate Moss. Now I'm a big

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Speaker 2: Russell Crow fan.

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Speaker 4: Can I ask you Mark, what was Russell like?

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Speaker 3: Russell was the same? I mean, Russell didn't need looking at.

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Speaker 3: This is a big old ft dude. He can look

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Speaker 3: after himself. The thing with Russell was I used to

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Speaker 3: spend more time stopping him trying to start a fight

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Speaker 3: than anybody trying to stop Russell was awesome, man, Were

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Speaker 3: you were all good?

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Speaker 4: Were you there?

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Speaker 2: Billy during his phone throwing escapades?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, ship, I wish you on the bass.

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Speaker 3: But I was. I was before I was in London.

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Speaker 3: And I'm probably after blame for his escape because I

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Speaker 3: think that night we end up staying a little bit

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Speaker 3: longer in Manchester, drinking a little bit more than next

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Speaker 3: day through to New York and that situation after you know,

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Speaker 3: and you know that's so there we go.

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Speaker 2: You are behind Russell Crow throwing the phone because you

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Speaker 2: got him too damn drunk the night before.

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Speaker 3: A little bit more to it than I blame myself.

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Speaker 2: Wow, right, buddy, So I can't ask you, Billy, I mean,

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Speaker 2: these big celebrities and we don't have to go into

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Speaker 2: specific because obviously you know you're you're you're a man

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Speaker 2: of your world.

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Speaker 4: And I've got.

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Speaker 1: Another specific i'd like to ask. Okay, I can, yeah,

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Speaker 1: ask you specific, one more specific. Sorry, Mark, I know

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Speaker 1: you must get really pissed off with this. Brad Angelina

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Speaker 1: spent most of your time with them, looking after them,

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Speaker 1: and I know you're pretty like, you know, close confidante

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Speaker 1: with them, well trusted, et cetera. Family secrets. Were you

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Speaker 1: on the scene, because obviously they hooked up at the

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Speaker 1: Mister and Missus Smith movie. Were you across the were

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Speaker 1: you with them across what was going on with them

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Speaker 1: when their relationship was still relatively secret?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, No, I mean I joined just after they

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Speaker 3: really got together, maybe probably a year after Mister and

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Speaker 3: Missus Smith. Yeah, she went on to do a film

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Speaker 3: called Wanted and he anyway, So I joined him after that.

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Speaker 3: So it was still in early days of their relationship,

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Speaker 3: you know. So it was a good time for me.

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Speaker 3: It was a good time. It's a good relationship. It's

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Speaker 3: a good time to work with them.

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Speaker 1: And was your number one job. It was your number

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Speaker 1: one job in that situation, just making sure that Jennifer

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Speaker 1: Anderson wasn't coming down the next street.

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Speaker 3: No, I tried to make sure she was there.

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Speaker 4: Could have made it more entertaining.

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Speaker 1: A fascinating guest with us right now, and Mark Billy Billingham.

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Speaker 1: This book is listen duty Guard to the stars, Sean Penn,

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Speaker 1: Angelina and Brad for a long time in there, as

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Speaker 1: well as Tom Cruise. So we're asking him. A whole

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Speaker 1: bunch story is about these people.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Mark, and I wanted to ask you, mate,

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Speaker 2: these big celebrities that you do look after or have

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Speaker 2: looked after, what is the hardest part about looking after it?

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Speaker 3: Don't ma, And people don't even think about it. It's

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Speaker 3: sair image. You have to look after their personal image,

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Speaker 3: you know, because of course there's a physical threat of course,

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Speaker 3: as the other And I'll give you an example of this, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Andie's such an eye profile and she and

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Speaker 3: God blessing me, they were all good people. And I

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Speaker 3: guess every single day they do something for charity or

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Speaker 3: some big meeting or wherever it was. And we'd go

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Speaker 3: and then she'd have a meeting at the United Nations

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Speaker 3: late in the afternoon and like the way I should

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Speaker 3: like a coffee in the back of the car, blah blah,

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: the car had jerk because it's running front of the road,

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Speaker 3: or we have to drive this way or that way.

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Speaker 3: For me as a bodyguard, I have to kind of

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Speaker 3: always be one step ahead and always have like a

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Speaker 3: spare set of clothes in the car. Is that the other,

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Speaker 3: because that's one thing will ruin the whole day. Image, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, she's got an image, and she's not an

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Speaker 3: image sort of person. He's a lovely person. But unfortunately

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Speaker 3: the world we're living that people want to be a gossip.

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Speaker 3: One of the kings wanted to do, you know, so

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Speaker 3: she steps out with wolves and the nice white dress

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Speaker 3: and to feel down the front of it. It's just

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Speaker 3: what they want. They're some ridiculous stories that do because

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, it's all like those wrong.

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Speaker 3: You're the one who takes it in the neck and

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Speaker 3: they don't really have a go, but they're in a

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Speaker 3: bad mood. If they're in a bad mood, you're in

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Speaker 3: a bad mood. There's always a threat of some sort

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Speaker 3: story on top of it.

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Speaker 1: So Mark in terms of like intense situations then, because

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Speaker 1: I know you've worked with lots of big celebs, but

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Speaker 1: you've also been an SAS soldier for you know, nearly

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Speaker 1: thirty years. What's a tougher situation like an SAS, you know,

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Speaker 1: intense hostage situation or trying to convince the world that

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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is more than four foot tall.

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Speaker 3: Come into the world Tom's taller, because I mean that's

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Speaker 3: just a difference. Get away from some ship.

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Speaker 1: Did you just have some phone books that you just

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Speaker 1: prop him up on every now and then invisible phone

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Speaker 1: books that you had to put under his feet because

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Speaker 1: he is tiny?

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Speaker 3: Well you say that, I thought it was saying, but

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Speaker 3: you know, when I met him, I was like, I

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Speaker 3: was shocked, he actually isn't that small. I don't know

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Speaker 3: why he does look that small on TV, and because

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Speaker 3: all his chicks always twice the bloody size and that's why.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's actually not small.

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Speaker 3: He's actually not And then again a lovely blog to

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Speaker 3: work for. I had a great time of him.

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Speaker 2: Look at Mark, a true professional. He's still hiding the

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Speaker 2: fact that Tom Cruise is four foot tall. You're never

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Speaker 2: off the clock market now, mate, we should we should

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Speaker 2: also talk about your new book, mate. I'm just intrigued

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Speaker 2: by the title of the book, kill or Capture.

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Speaker 3: I can make. But I'll tell you what you're the

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Speaker 3: person all this actually it's been I've just changed the

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Speaker 3: title because we've kind of been persuaded. It's called it's

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Speaker 3: now called call to Kill, not kill or catch call

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Speaker 3: to Kill, same stuff. It's kind of a Jack wish

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Speaker 3: you come type. But what I will tell you is

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Speaker 3: it's all based on real stuff that I've done, seen

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Speaker 3: him be there, done it, James Place, his names and all.

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Speaker 3: It's it's mate, if you get a chance to read it,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'd love to know what you think. I

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Speaker 3: like it. I wrote it and I love it because

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Speaker 3: I'm actually into the because it was a two book deal,

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Speaker 3: a second book, and what we're on about chapter three

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Speaker 3: of the second but we just follows on from that.

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Speaker 3: But amazing it's a great but I think it's a

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Speaker 3: great book I'm going to say about anyway. So I

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Speaker 3: wrote it. But I'll get a few you guys, and

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Speaker 3: if you don't like it, I will make you disappear.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Mark Bill, former military

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Speaker 1: celebrity bodyguard, s as presenter as well. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: would have seen him on the TVs. Mark, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us.

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Speaker 4: A new book, Call to Kill, Call, Call to Kill,

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Speaker 4: and the second book in the run I believe is

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Speaker 4: called Tom Cruise is actually tall, so we look forward

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Speaker 4: to that one as well. See what you're hearing.

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