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Speaker 1: Podcasting. Now, let's talk about Justin Bieber, because there's a

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Speaker 1: story today that said that Justin Bieber and his now

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw that he was about to go on tour.

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Speaker 3: I believe, yes, And he said, look, you know, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm to struggle to keep the mouse in the house.

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Speaker 1: And you know that's that's that's that was his preferences.

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Speaker 1: Look to be perfectly honest with you. If you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this show for the first time, I'm I'm I've

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Speaker 1: been guilty of chastising Justin in the past, but I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the honesty, the honesty early.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just think that a lot of relationship. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in the fact that if you're

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Speaker 1: going to be with anybody for any period of a long,

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Speaker 1: long period of time, I think it's human nature to

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Speaker 1: I think it's really natural to fall for other people,

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Speaker 1: to have emotions, for other people, to have physical attractions

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Speaker 1: going to sound like a bit of an oxymoron, which

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Speaker 2: Woods, Oh I knew. Oh okay, very good.

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Speaker 1: Let's call it honest cheating. I think declaring to your

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Speaker 2: Now, hang on, so you're so sorry.

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Speaker 3: You think if you go home to your beautiful girlfriend tonight,

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Speaker 3: beautiful partner, you've been seeing each other for two and a.

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Speaker 2: Half years years, congratulations, three year? You think you go

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Speaker 3: Go how'd you day?

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Speaker 4: How do you go? Wow?

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Speaker 2: I'd an amazing to actually get this. Fell in love

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Speaker 2: with the woman at the cafe? Yeah, that was my day.

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Speaker 2: I'm now in love with her. And you think that's

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Speaker 2: good for your relationship? Yes?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry? You guys have to explain yourself because I

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Speaker 2: I'm in no world. Can I see how that's good

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Speaker 1: I think it's much better to talk about that like,

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Speaker 1: and I want to look, I want to hear from

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Speaker 1: other people here. Yeah, I know this might sound a

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Speaker 1: Justin Bieber is with Hailey Baldwin still because I think

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Speaker 1: in the past, you know, as we know, he was

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Speaker 1: his love for other people, because I think that's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you might have experienced it as well.

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Speaker 3: If you have experienced this and it has been good

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Speaker 3: for a relationship, I would love to hear that, because again,

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here right now, I'm trying to understand it,

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Speaker 3: but I I just I just cannot see any Sam.

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Speaker 1: That's but look, the fune line is lit up here.

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Sam?

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Speaker 4: Hey, so I'm actually in the real term for it

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Speaker 4: is kind of like ethical non monogamy. Wow. And what

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Speaker 4: So yeah, you can be physically attracted to anyone, but

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Speaker 1: So if you can tell you, if you can tell

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Speaker 2: He's called five overseas. I've quit my job and moving

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Speaker 1: Sam, I really appreciate your call mate. Please stay with us.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to a song thirty and one and

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Speaker 1: Do you think that being open and honest about your

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Speaker 5: Podcasting now a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit of a controversial topic. Interesting though, I think that

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Speaker 1: guys think. Justin Bieber apparently told his now wife Haley

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Speaker 1: Apparently there are a lot of blokes calling up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and this isn't all that surprising. I don't think who

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Speaker 2: And I'm probably part of that. Yes, source path interesting now,

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Speaker 2: but I'm really interested to hear the other side.

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Speaker 1: Got real, We've got real, who's called up on thirty

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Speaker 5: How are you going mate?

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Speaker 1: What do you think do you think you can be?

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Speaker 1: Do you think being open about your lust for other

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: I just I think it's completely nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 5: The first part I agree with that you can have

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Speaker 5: you can have physical attraction for someone else. Yep, you know,

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Speaker 5: I agree on that. But the idea of cheating on

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Speaker 5: that's as serious as it gets.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.

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Speaker 5: So the idea of the cheating on your life for

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, that's the sacrifice. It's real. No, that's cool man.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been in your in your Are

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Speaker 3: Mate?

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Speaker 5: Yes? I am been one year?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever have you ever, in the course of

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I guess you know, there's a

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Speaker 5: it depends on the intention.

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Speaker 1: Though, yes, further is another is another part of it

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Speaker 1: isn't it's a whole other level.

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Speaker 5: It's whole, it'st hold another level. I just think that

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Speaker 5: you don't deeply love that person or you've lost that

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thanks Real, all right, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with Real.

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Speaker 3: I think I think he is accepted the fact that

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Speaker 3: tend to go with Real that if you then take

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Speaker 3: then yeah, you know, yes, that's the choice you make.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to admit when I asked him how

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Speaker 2: You're going to Caitlin, Caitlin, what are your thoughts and

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Speaker 6: Basically, what I was thinking is what you're describing is

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Speaker 6: whereas if you don't have the communication, then that's cheating.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I don't think that either.

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Speaker 3: But as long as you both agree to be in

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Speaker 3: that's not this, that's not the hypothetical we're spinning right now.

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Speaker 1: Caitlin's essentially saying that as soon as you go into

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Speaker 1: other when you've got feelings for someone else and you know,

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Speaker 1: potentially be with someone else, then the relationship becomes something else.

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Speaker 1: It's not a standard monogamal.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, oh yeah no, and I'm all for that

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Kaitlin, what are you into at the moment? Are

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm in a I'm in a committed, faithful relationship,

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Speaker 6: whereas I have had an open relationship before.

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Speaker 2: Did it work? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, like we broke up for other reasons, not

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Speaker 6: because of like that. So it can work as long

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Speaker 3: Would you I mean this is a private question, but

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Speaker 3: christ no, no, no, no, no, okay. Because of your experience with

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Speaker 3: the open relationship, would you consider speaking to your current

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Speaker 3: be interested in getting into that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: I think you've got it. It's not with this partner. No,

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Speaker 6: I don't believe I would be able to.

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Speaker 1: Because you have to. You have to weigh up where

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Speaker 1: the person's probably sitting and what their insecurities are and everything.

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Speaker 1: It's courses for courses.

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Speaker 2: Would right, interesting, Kaitlyn.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff, Thank Caitlyn, thanks much for the.

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Speaker 2: Culture an open relationship with your partner.

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Speaker 1: Pot gee whizballs? Woulds Yeah? You know what? I would

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