WEBVTT - Coffee and a caca ☕ 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.680 Hello, it's Art Simone. I'll let you in a little secret. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.760 I live a double life, and I'm not the only one. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.919 So I've taken it upon myself to find other people 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.920 just like me who do something in their personal life 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:25.200 that is very different from their professional life. Well, they 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:28.640 seem very regular in person, but have a scandalous career. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:30.080 Sounds fun, right. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.400 I know it gets even better because I actually don't 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.280 know who I'll be speaking with or what they're concealing. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.520 This is concealed with me, Art Simone, let's meet our guests. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.280 Roll that type. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.280 My name is eighty. I am from Tasmania. I'm thirty 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.080 six years old and I am a consent educator. I 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.920 work in high schools talking to young people about respectful 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:57.080 relationships and how to have great intimacy if and when 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.200 they want to do that. In my spare time to 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.920 do anything that doesn't involve sitting still, I don't think 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.839 Art will guess what I'm concealing because it's so left 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.520 of center and at first glance, completely different from my 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:18.160 day to day. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:17.080 Hello, Adi, how are you? 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:18.000 Hello? 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:22.040 You look nice and cozy. You wearing glasses and you've 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.800 got a nice little silver necklace. Singing, what's on the 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:26.280 end of it? What's that? 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:27.759 That's a Tasmanian devil? 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.200 Poor print, not life size. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.360 No, no, it's a little medallion. I just wear that 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.760 because I've traveled a fair bit. So, ok, I like 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.320 to have a little reminder of home. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.199 Are they actually like in the wild and Tasmania Tasmanian devils? 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:41.680 Yeah? 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.479 Oh my god, yuck. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.199 No, they're wonderful. They're so cute. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:46.640 Don't they make those horrible noises? 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:51.280 You're like, yes, yeah, yeah, I don't know about that. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.400 They're a bit scary. Have you ever been attacked by 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.320 a Tasmanian? I don't know. This is not the interview. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:58.920 I haven't, but I know someone that has. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.840 Oh my god, it's a new podcast. You're doing totally 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:02.480 Wild instead. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.920 All right, forget Ranger Stacy, she's out, it's me instead. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:06.920 Okay. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.680 So a consent educator, How did you get into that? 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:15.079 What pathway led you to that? Is this also a 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.240 new thing that's being added into high schools. I didn't 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.560 have that when I was in high school. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.000 I came to it in twenty seventeen, and I was 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:27.720 at a point where I was looking for something else 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.560 in my life and It just really aligned with my values. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.560 I guess I wanted to be making a difference in 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.600 the world, and I wanted to be helping people, and 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.520 this seemed like a really positive way to do that. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.840 I also really enjoy working with young people. I think 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.720 they're far more interesting than adults. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.200 You're doing God's work, Dowling, You're doing God's work because 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:53.080 I can't stand those little shits, but I have no patience. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.640 I just find them really stinky and annoying. But I 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.600 think it's very important that you're doing what you do. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.600 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.919 ask you three questions, and from the answers to those 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.840 three questions, plus combined with the background info I have 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.400 now and the visuals in front of me, I'm going 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.440 to try and guess what you're concealing from me. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.680 Okay, so here we go. Fire away Question number one, 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.080 what is your star sign? 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:18.720 I am an aquarian? 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:20.440 Oh what's that one? 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.160 It's the water carrier and a lot of people think 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.480 that it's a water sign, but it's actually an air sign. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.480 I'm a virgo and I just know that's the pretty 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.040 lady and I resonate with I resonate with that. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.000 I think she's quite nice looking. Okay. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.360 Question number two, what is one crazy thing that you've 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:37.360 got on your bucket list? 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.840 I really want to do wing walking? What do you 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:47.119 know those those biplanes, the YOLDI biplanes with the two 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.080 sets of wings and how sometimes people used to walk 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:51.120 on top of them. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.640 As they're flying while it's in the air. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.120 Yeah, I really want to do that. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:59.160 Jesus Christ, why would you what? What? 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:00.840 What are you sitting down one day and he said, Oh, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.320 I'd love to do that. That'd be fun. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.680 It just really appeals to me. I like wing walking, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.280 being up high, and it's just I really like the 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.200 kudos that would go with that as well, and it 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.920 would just be so fun. And it's something that not 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:15.760 many people do. 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.080 And yeah, but if you want to get up high, 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.320 I love just go at an elevator. Same thing, maybe 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:23.440 one that as a window. Question number three, what is 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.640 your go to karaoke song? 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:28.000 Ah? 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.039 Well, Wicked is my favorite musical? 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:31.440 Oh? 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.919 Yes, a bit of define gravity or yeah, more of 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:34.880 a yeah. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.160 Not that I would want to step on a Dina 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.640 Menzol's toes. I could ever hold a torch, but that 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.040 song is epic. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.600 Yeah, I only for the first time saw Wicked this year. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.160 I know it's been around for like twenty years hashtag 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.800 bad gay. I finally saw it and I was like, 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.679 oh my god, it's pretty good because I've heard define 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.120 gravity million times drag queens love to perform that, of course, 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:57.560 but like, it was actually pretty good. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:58.480 It's a good story. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.400 The twist at the end, I was, It's like, how 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.840 has this not been spoil for me after twenty years? 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.680 How did I exist in pop culture in the world 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:06.960 and not have this room for me? 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:07.840 So it was a great moment. 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.040 I was like, wow, what a great experience. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:12.680 I was like, it's all just linked together. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:17.400 Oh wow, yeah, it's quite Norris actually, Okay, so what 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.640 have I got? Let's recap. Okay, you work with teenagers 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.839 young adults. You have a Tasmanian devil miniature poor print 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.599 around your nick. You're in aquarius. You want to walk 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:31.320 on wings and be up high and define gravity. Okay, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:36.680 I know where we're leaning towards, flying in the sky, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:41.360 in the sky high, define gravity. Oh that's air. It's 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.039 all up in the air, okay, air. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.800 Okay, there's a lot of clues there. 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.440 Yeah, So it's all pointing to this air and the sky. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:56.400 Do you fly a blimp? Are you a blimp pilot? 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:58.000 A blimp pilot? 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:05.680 Hot air finalance? Yes, I'm sorry, I do not fly 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:06.040 a bar. 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:06.240 Oh. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.520 I am a trapeze artist, and I've worked all around 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.440 the globe across twenty four countries, performing with a few 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.280 different circuses, and I now run a circus school. 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:22.120 Ah, you're you're a circus the former. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.680 You're a trapeze artist. You're an aerialist. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:25.279 That's me. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.159 No wonder you want to be on a bloody winden walker. Ah, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.279 you mustn't be afraid of anything scary. 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.279 So we have just found out that eighty is not 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.560 in fact a limp pilot. Oh, she's actually a trapeze artist. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.080 She's doing with the circus. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.640 Can I join? Where is it? Can I help? 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.719 I could be a clown or I could just do popcorn? 0:06:47.760 --> 0:07:00.599 I want to hello. Okay, we are here with and 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.839 we found out that no, she's not a blimp pilot. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.359 She's in fact a trapeze artist. So she likes to 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.040 be up high and swing from things. So how did 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.520 you become a trapeze artist? 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.800 I guess the short story is that My mother is 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.160 a physiotherapist and when I was four, she noticed that 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:25.360 I couldn't touch my toes. I was very tight and inflexible. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.000 So she enrolled me in gymnastics and I loved it. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.600 And then when I was sixteen, I was having a 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:37.200 really tough time at school and mum discovered NIKER at 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.000 the National Institute of Circus Arts, and so she told 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:41.720 me about that and she took me up there for 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.960 a summer course and that was it pretty much. I 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.040 was like, school can get out of here. I need 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.080 to get the splits and I need to get into NIKA. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.679 And that's what I did. So I graduated year twelve 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.720 and I went straight to NIKER before my eighteenth birthday. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.040 I did a three year degree there and then and 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:04.960 I did literally anything I could to work in circus. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.440 I basically worked free for a year just doing all 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.680 sorts of things, trying to get experience built up the 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.800 CV and then I landed a really amazing contract with 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.440 a UK circus and the rest is history. 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:15.760 Yeah. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.680 So during circus school, because I know, you can pick 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.400 like a specialty, so was that trapeze? Did you have 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.120 a secondary circus type thing that you were like almost 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:26.920 going to go with but you said, nah, trapez is 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:27.320 it for me? 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.120 Pretty much back when I did it, and it was 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.760 three years. The first year was everything basic, so we 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:38.319 learned handstands and tumbling and acrobatics and clowning. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.600 I know they do clowning. Did they do clouding then yep? 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.840 Yeah, bit of clouding yes, ah, I love it. Ballet 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:48.640 every morning, history of circus, business management, anatoman, physiology, all 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.560 of the things that you could possibly need. And then 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.480 we had specialized so I really wanted to do flying trapeze, 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.400 so I had to rally a group to do that 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.360 with me, and then I needed a secondary one and 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.840 I wanted to do swinging trippees. So all of the 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.360 trapez is it wasn't encouraged because they try to encourage 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.480 you to be a more rounded performer so that you 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.600 are employable. Yes, and flying trapezes and swinging trepees are 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.560 not super sellable, like you have to have all of 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.400 this rigging and set up and it's expensive. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.360 And are they the ones where you need like a 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.280 full net underneath you, like. 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.320 It's that kind of thing. The flying typiez that I 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:30.400 trained in is actually a smaller version, so it's exactly 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.440 what you're imagining with the net, just a little bit 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.560 smaller and has mats instead of a net. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.360 Oh okay, my goodness. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.400 And then swinging trapez is the one where it's one 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.040 person standing on a bar pushing it backwards and forwards, 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:43.880 and then you sort of jump and do flips and 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.439 stuff and recatch the same bar. 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.440 So I was speechless to that. I just I can't. 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:51.920 Where have you tued? Where have you traveled? Well? 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.160 You know, because I know that circus artists can do 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.679 anything from like being a cabaret show with a I'm 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.200 going to say something controversial yet brave, not another bloody 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.840 light lira hoop, not another one, because any any any 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:07.559 bitch thing. So you can strap one to roof and 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.320 sit in it and be like, look I do circus. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.040 No you don't, No, you don't. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.760 If I see another set of silks again, go away 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:14.520 not interested. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.080 Well that's because they're the most easy to rig. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.120 Yeah, yeah they are. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.160 They just take one point, yeah, one thing to hang 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:21.680 from the roof. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.839 You've just got your caribbean or you're strapped up off 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:24.200 your guard. 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.920 That's it. Yeah, it's very cheap. It's very easy to 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:27.320 get it. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.920 Yeah, in there, so I know that circus can be 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.840 in places like that, But then I'm more interested in, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.400 you know, the bigger shows and things. So you know, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:36.800 what's the most exciting thing you've done? 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:37.200 Tell me? 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.960 Tell me, Well, yes, I have done my fair share 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.040 of cabarets, yes, but for most of my career I 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:47.280 was working on large scale touring, tended shows, like. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.040 An actual circus. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:50.760 Yeah, I lived in a caravan. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.839 Oh my goodness, that's so exciting. 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.360 Like I've been on tour before, but I haven't actually 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:57.360 gone with a bloody tent. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.920 That's like, what? How long on the How long do 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:01.320 you do that? 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.040 For about eight months of the year and then the 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.280 off season that's when you sort of pick up the 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.560 extra sort of cabarets or festival work or other stuff, 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.040 usually for a month at a time, and then you 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.000 pack the tent down, you put it in trucks, and 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.079 then you drive somewhere else and then you put it 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.240 all back up again and then you do another month 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:22.520 of shows six days a week. 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.160 Yeah, do you have to be involved in that? 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:24.600 Yeah? 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.920 Oh really, I always wanted to join the circus, but 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:28.800 I don't know if I want you. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.080 Now, it's a really nice way that I think really 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.079 contributes to that sense of community and sense of family. Like, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.760 as this swinging chrapeze artist, there's a fair amount of 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.600 star power or like you know, like you're in the 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.400 spotlight for that one moment in the show. Yeah, but 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.920 then there's a real leveling when you all have to 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.760 put your gum boots on and hit sledgehammers into the mud. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:58.360 And so then the people that are working the popcorn 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.320 machine are then the people that you're reporting to when 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.320 you're loading a truck and like, it's really great. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.000 What's the circus you to it with? 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:07.920 The one that I spend the most amount of time 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.880 on is a UK based contemporary circus called No Fit State. Okay, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.200 but I worked for a French flying trapeze company for 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:19.280 a few years. I also did some traditional circus in 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.800 India which was an experience. Rode some elephants there for all. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.559 While, Wow, how does your body cope with that? Because 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.040 how you do six shows a week, unpacked, the tent 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.040 down and stay in good physical form? 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.560 Yeah, And I've definitely noticed just as I've aged and 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:41.199 as I've grown as a person, that relationship with my 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:45.479 body has certainly changed. Like, I definitely had some unhealthy 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:50.040 attitudes from growing up in a sporting environment, and then 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.000 Nika was pretty similar, and I had some attitudes towards 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.400 training and things that weren't particularly helpful. But I was 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.840 young enough that my body was very resilient take a 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:05.240 lot of punishment. I think around twenty four, twenty five, 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.880 twenty six, I started to notice that I really needed 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.720 to make sure I was warming up properly and cooling 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.400 down properly, because if I didn't do that, it was 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.640 problematic and things would happen. But also we had a 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.120 physio on tour with us, so any sort of little 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.800 niggles or things we could get checked out really really 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:28.000 quickly and get a plan around. And then sauna. Sauna 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.200 was a real life saver. That is something that if 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.400 you work six days a week and you've got two 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.080 shows that on the weekend, if you have one day off, 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.000 the best thing that I could do was go and 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.160 have a sauna, because it really makes your body feel 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.400 like you've had two days off even though you haven't had. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.640 You get your bang for your buck, You're right, all right, Yeah, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.080 time slows down in the sauna. It's all right, guys, 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.480 and get my two days worth in this one day, and. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.319 Then like sleeping and eating and making sure my routine 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.880 was it's good. My pre show routine would definitely be 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.960 like half my dinner early and then do costume makeup, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.280 all that coffee and a kaka oh yes, pre show 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:11.160 poo yes, yeah, very important, and then two squares of 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:16.040 dark chocolate and interval and then post show cool down, 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.680 second dinner. Oh my goodness, that was pretty much how 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:20.160 I rolled. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:20.840 Yeah. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.600 Well, you've got to find what works for yourself too, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.560 you know. But all gigs paid the same, Like you know, 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.080 you obviously get some danger money from hanging from the ceiling, 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.000 But do you get gigs that are paying more than 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:32.560 just your regular circus work. 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.520 Oh yeah, I've done the really well paid. I was 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.280 a stunt double for a flying trapeze artist once. It 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.120 was ridiculous. 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.080 Stunt double for another trapeze artist. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.760 Yes, that's just like having two of the same thing. 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.240 What Yeah, Well, do you remember at the start I 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.640 told you that the flying chipiez that you were thinking 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.600 of is bigger it has the net, yes, and the 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.320 flying tupiece that I do is slightly smaller and has matts. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:56.720 Yes. 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:01.880 So this big fancy bank was making an advertisement and 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.520 they wanted to show trust, so trapeze catch ah, And 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.200 they hired these trapeze artists, and then they got to 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.120 the venue and they realized that it was the little 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.720 rig not the big one. So the trapeze artist was like, 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.560 I don't know how to fly on this what? 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.600 So then what they call you in? You do the trick? 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:21.920 But then do they do a close up of the 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:22.640 other artists. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.680 Yeah? Yeah, they dressed me up like the flying trapeze artists. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:27.840 Oh my goodness. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.800 She could do everything except the trick. Yeah, so I 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:31.800 just did the trick. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.160 Sorry, she could do everything except for the hard bit. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.080 All right, Okay, I'll see how it is. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.000 But yeah I got to I got to go somewhere 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.320 in eastern Europe. It was really beautiful. I got paid 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.160 really well. That was pretty great. 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.360 I interviewed a Hollywood stunt double recently and I was 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.840 asking him. I was like, is it really annoying seeing 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.760 other people get like applauded for your work essentially because 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:55.680 you do all the hard bit? 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.080 Was that hard for you? Were you like, hey, I 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:04.040 did that trick? Actually, oh no, I got paid exactly. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.160 There are some things that if you get paid enough whatever. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:12.720 Yeah, So I want to know what the best and 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.080 the worst thing has been in your circus career, Like 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.240 what's the most exciting amazing thing that you think back 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.280 and you go, damn, I did that. That was great, 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.680 versus being like the moment where you're like, this is horrendous. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.600 Okay, I can do the horrendous one off the top 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:34.440 of my head. I shut myself. 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:45.880 While you performing everyone. 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:55.200 So that's a that's a secret. The PSP, yes, the 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.920 coffee and a kaka. So that that happened in India 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.840 where I had a bit of Delli belly going on. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.719 Thankfully I was wearing three pairs of tides. So my 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:11.640 first trick was actually pulling up an over onto my hips, 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.000 which just pressed things that couldn't take it at that time. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.399 And so I very quickly just cut straight to the 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.760 final trick, did that and then took myself. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:20.600 Oh my god. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.360 So we didn't have any actual like overspray, you know, 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.800 any explosions, but it's that moment you go, something's got 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:27.359 gone wrong. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.919 That's the benefit of being an erlis. You're constantly wearing 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.920 so many layers because it bruises and grazes. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.560 And yeah, yeah, oh my goodness. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.880 But it was not comfortable and I was mortified. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.479 That Nappy would not have been fun to unwrap at 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:43.640 the end. Oh my goodness. 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.320 I don't I'm not going into details. I did my 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:51.159 five presents as is wanted in a traditional circuits. 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.719 That's scary. That's scary. But what about the best, right? 0:17:58.800 --> 0:17:59.040 Yeah? 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.520 From shooting yourself too? 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.359 The best was I mentioned I had a number of 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:11.000 caravans that broke down. Yes, that had happened. I had 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.080 sourced a friend's caravan that I was going to move into, 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.520 but it was all very short notice and I didn't 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:21.000 have time, and so I was trying to move house 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.359 essentially as the show was going on. So I would 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.280 like do my act quickly, change for the next one, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.680 come back and move some more stuff over. And then 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:33.160 after the show, everyone came and made a chain between 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.800 the two caravans and they took all of my stuff 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:40.080 literally piece by piece, in a human chain, from the 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.080 broken caravan to my new one. Like they pulled up 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.760 the floor and placed it in the new an for 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.360 me so that I kept like all my decort everything, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:52.359 And so that was the highlight. That was like the 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.359 whole circus rallying around to give me a hand. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.040 That's really interesting. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.560 Out of everything you've done, it's nothing to do with 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.200 actually you've done, or a trick you've done, or an 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.280 audience you perform for. It comes back to community again. 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.720 That's so fascinating. Moving into you know what you do now? 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.199 Is there any like intersection with what you learned in 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.520 being the circus as to you know your role now 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:17.920 as a consent educator. 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.119 There is so much crossover. Yeah, so much crossover. So 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.320 I think when we're talking about consenting, we talk a 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:31.360 lot about listening to our intuition and getting to know ourselves, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.399 and a lot of that is our early warning system, 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:37.480 where we have our brain stem that gives us those 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.679 really fun feelings of butterflies and our tummy and sweaty 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.239 palms and goose pumps and increase heart rate and all 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.960