1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Hello, it's Art Simone. I'll let you in a little secret. 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: I live a double life, and I'm not the only one. 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: So I've taken it upon myself to find other people 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: just like me who do something in their personal life 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: that is very different from their professional life. Well, they 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: seem very regular in person, but have a scandalous career. 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Sounds fun, right. 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: I know it gets even better because I actually don't 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: know who I'll be speaking with or what they're concealing. 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: This is concealed with me, Art Simone, let's meet our guests. 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Roll that type. 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: My name is eighty. I am from Tasmania. I'm thirty 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: six years old and I am a consent educator. I 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: work in high schools talking to young people about respectful 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: relationships and how to have great intimacy if and when 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: they want to do that. In my spare time to 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: do anything that doesn't involve sitting still, I don't think 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 3: Art will guess what I'm concealing because it's so left 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: of center and at first glance, completely different from my 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: day to day. 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: Hello, Adi, how are you? 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: Hello? 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: You look nice and cozy. You wearing glasses and you've 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: got a nice little silver necklace. Singing, what's on the 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: end of it? What's that? 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: That's a Tasmanian devil? 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: Poor print, not life size. 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: No, no, it's a little medallion. I just wear that 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: because I've traveled a fair bit. So, ok, I like 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: to have a little reminder of home. 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 2: Are they actually like in the wild and Tasmania Tasmanian devils? 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yuck. 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 3: No, they're wonderful. They're so cute. 35 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: Don't they make those horrible noises? 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: You're like, yes, yeah, yeah, I don't know about that. 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: They're a bit scary. Have you ever been attacked by 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: a Tasmanian? I don't know. This is not the interview. 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: I haven't, but I know someone that has. 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a new podcast. You're doing totally 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: Wild instead. 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: All right, forget Ranger Stacy, she's out, it's me instead. 43 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: So a consent educator, How did you get into that? 45 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: What pathway led you to that? Is this also a 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: new thing that's being added into high schools. I didn't 47 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: have that when I was in high school. 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: I came to it in twenty seventeen, and I was 49 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: at a point where I was looking for something else 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: in my life and It just really aligned with my values. 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: I guess I wanted to be making a difference in 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: the world, and I wanted to be helping people, and 53 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: this seemed like a really positive way to do that. 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: I also really enjoy working with young people. I think 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: they're far more interesting than adults. 56 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: You're doing God's work, Dowling, You're doing God's work because 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: I can't stand those little shits, but I have no patience. 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: I just find them really stinky and annoying. But I 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: think it's very important that you're doing what you do. 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: So what I'm going to do is I'm going to 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: ask you three questions, and from the answers to those 62 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: three questions, plus combined with the background info I have 63 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: now and the visuals in front of me, I'm going 64 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: to try and guess what you're concealing from me. 65 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so here we go. Fire away Question number one, 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: what is your star sign? 67 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: I am an aquarian? 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh what's that one? 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: It's the water carrier and a lot of people think 70 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: that it's a water sign, but it's actually an air sign. 71 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: I'm a virgo and I just know that's the pretty 72 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: lady and I resonate with I resonate with that. 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: I think she's quite nice looking. Okay. 74 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: Question number two, what is one crazy thing that you've 75 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: got on your bucket list? 76 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: I really want to do wing walking? What do you 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 3: know those those biplanes, the YOLDI biplanes with the two 78 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: sets of wings and how sometimes people used to walk 79 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: on top of them. 80 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: As they're flying while it's in the air. 81 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really want to do that. 82 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, why would you what? What? 83 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: What are you sitting down one day and he said, Oh, 84 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: I'd love to do that. That'd be fun. 85 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: It just really appeals to me. I like wing walking, 86 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: being up high, and it's just I really like the 87 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: kudos that would go with that as well, and it 88 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: would just be so fun. And it's something that not 89 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: many people do. 90 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, but if you want to get up high, 91 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: I love just go at an elevator. Same thing, maybe 92 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: one that as a window. Question number three, what is 93 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: your go to karaoke song? 94 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: Ah? 95 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: Well, Wicked is my favorite musical? 96 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 97 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: Yes, a bit of define gravity or yeah, more of 98 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: a yeah. 99 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: Not that I would want to step on a Dina 100 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: Menzol's toes. I could ever hold a torch, but that 101 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: song is epic. 102 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I only for the first time saw Wicked this year. 103 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: I know it's been around for like twenty years hashtag 104 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: bad gay. I finally saw it and I was like, 105 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 2: oh my god, it's pretty good because I've heard define 106 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: gravity million times drag queens love to perform that, of course, 107 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: but like, it was actually pretty good. 108 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: It's a good story. 109 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: The twist at the end, I was, It's like, how 110 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: has this not been spoil for me after twenty years? 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: How did I exist in pop culture in the world 112 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: and not have this room for me? 113 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: So it was a great moment. 114 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: I was like, wow, what a great experience. 115 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: I was like, it's all just linked together. 116 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, it's quite Norris actually, Okay, so what 117 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: have I got? Let's recap. Okay, you work with teenagers 118 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: young adults. You have a Tasmanian devil miniature poor print 119 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: around your nick. You're in aquarius. You want to walk 120 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: on wings and be up high and define gravity. Okay, 121 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: I know where we're leaning towards, flying in the sky, 122 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: in the sky high, define gravity. Oh that's air. It's 123 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: all up in the air, okay, air. 124 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: Okay, there's a lot of clues there. 125 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's all pointing to this air and the sky. 126 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: Do you fly a blimp? Are you a blimp pilot? 127 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: A blimp pilot? 128 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: Hot air finalance? Yes, I'm sorry, I do not fly 129 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: a bar. 130 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: Oh. 131 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: I am a trapeze artist, and I've worked all around 132 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: the globe across twenty four countries, performing with a few 133 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 3: different circuses, and I now run a circus school. 134 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: Ah, you're you're a circus the former. 135 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: You're a trapeze artist. You're an aerialist. 136 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: That's me. 137 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: No wonder you want to be on a bloody winden walker. Ah, 138 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: you mustn't be afraid of anything scary. 139 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: So we have just found out that eighty is not 140 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: in fact a limp pilot. Oh, she's actually a trapeze artist. 141 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: She's doing with the circus. 142 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Can I join? Where is it? Can I help? 143 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: I could be a clown or I could just do popcorn? 144 00:06:47,760 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: I want to hello. Okay, we are here with and 145 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: we found out that no, she's not a blimp pilot. 146 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: She's in fact a trapeze artist. So she likes to 147 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: be up high and swing from things. So how did 148 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: you become a trapeze artist? 149 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: I guess the short story is that My mother is 150 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: a physiotherapist and when I was four, she noticed that 151 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: I couldn't touch my toes. I was very tight and inflexible. 152 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: So she enrolled me in gymnastics and I loved it. 153 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: And then when I was sixteen, I was having a 154 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: really tough time at school and mum discovered NIKER at 155 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: the National Institute of Circus Arts, and so she told 156 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: me about that and she took me up there for 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: a summer course and that was it pretty much. I 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: was like, school can get out of here. I need 159 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: to get the splits and I need to get into NIKA. 160 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 3: And that's what I did. So I graduated year twelve 161 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: and I went straight to NIKER before my eighteenth birthday. 162 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: I did a three year degree there and then and 163 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: I did literally anything I could to work in circus. 164 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: I basically worked free for a year just doing all 165 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: sorts of things, trying to get experience built up the 166 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: CV and then I landed a really amazing contract with 167 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: a UK circus and the rest is history. 168 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 169 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: So during circus school, because I know, you can pick 170 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: like a specialty, so was that trapeze? Did you have 171 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: a secondary circus type thing that you were like almost 172 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: going to go with but you said, nah, trapez is 173 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: it for me? 174 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: Pretty much back when I did it, and it was 175 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: three years. The first year was everything basic, so we 176 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 3: learned handstands and tumbling and acrobatics and clowning. 177 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: I know they do clowning. Did they do clouding then yep? 178 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, bit of clouding yes, ah, I love it. Ballet 179 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: every morning, history of circus, business management, anatoman, physiology, all 180 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: of the things that you could possibly need. And then 181 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: we had specialized so I really wanted to do flying trapeze, 182 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: so I had to rally a group to do that 183 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: with me, and then I needed a secondary one and 184 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: I wanted to do swinging trippees. So all of the 185 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: trapez is it wasn't encouraged because they try to encourage 186 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: you to be a more rounded performer so that you 187 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: are employable. Yes, and flying trapezes and swinging trepees are 188 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: not super sellable, like you have to have all of 189 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: this rigging and set up and it's expensive. 190 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: And are they the ones where you need like a 191 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: full net underneath you, like. 192 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: It's that kind of thing. The flying typiez that I 193 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: trained in is actually a smaller version, so it's exactly 194 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: what you're imagining with the net, just a little bit 195 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: smaller and has mats instead of a net. 196 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: Oh okay, my goodness. 197 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: And then swinging trapez is the one where it's one 198 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: person standing on a bar pushing it backwards and forwards, 199 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: and then you sort of jump and do flips and 200 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 3: stuff and recatch the same bar. 201 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: So I was speechless to that. I just I can't. 202 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: Where have you tued? Where have you traveled? Well? 203 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: You know, because I know that circus artists can do 204 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: anything from like being a cabaret show with a I'm 205 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: going to say something controversial yet brave, not another bloody 206 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: light lira hoop, not another one, because any any any 207 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: bitch thing. So you can strap one to roof and 208 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: sit in it and be like, look I do circus. 209 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: No you don't, No, you don't. 210 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: If I see another set of silks again, go away 211 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: not interested. 212 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: Well that's because they're the most easy to rig. 213 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they are. 214 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: They just take one point, yeah, one thing to hang 215 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: from the roof. 216 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: You've just got your caribbean or you're strapped up off 217 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: your guard. 218 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, it's very cheap. It's very easy to 219 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: get it. 220 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, in there, so I know that circus can be 221 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: in places like that, But then I'm more interested in, 222 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, the bigger shows and things. So you know, 223 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: what's the most exciting thing you've done? 224 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: Tell me? 225 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: Tell me, Well, yes, I have done my fair share 226 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: of cabarets, yes, but for most of my career I 227 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: was working on large scale touring, tended shows, like. 228 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: An actual circus. 229 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I lived in a caravan. 230 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's so exciting. 231 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: Like I've been on tour before, but I haven't actually 232 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: gone with a bloody tent. 233 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: That's like, what? How long on the How long do 234 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: you do that? 235 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: For about eight months of the year and then the 236 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: off season that's when you sort of pick up the 237 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 3: extra sort of cabarets or festival work or other stuff, 238 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: usually for a month at a time, and then you 239 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: pack the tent down, you put it in trucks, and 240 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 3: then you drive somewhere else and then you put it 241 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: all back up again and then you do another month 242 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: of shows six days a week. 243 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have to be involved in that? 244 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 245 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: Oh really, I always wanted to join the circus, but 246 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want you. 247 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: Now, it's a really nice way that I think really 248 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: contributes to that sense of community and sense of family. Like, 249 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: as this swinging chrapeze artist, there's a fair amount of 250 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: star power or like you know, like you're in the 251 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: spotlight for that one moment in the show. Yeah, but 252 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: then there's a real leveling when you all have to 253 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: put your gum boots on and hit sledgehammers into the mud. 254 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: And so then the people that are working the popcorn 255 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: machine are then the people that you're reporting to when 256 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: you're loading a truck and like, it's really great. 257 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: What's the circus you to it with? 258 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: The one that I spend the most amount of time 259 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: on is a UK based contemporary circus called No Fit State. Okay, 260 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: but I worked for a French flying trapeze company for 261 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: a few years. I also did some traditional circus in 262 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: India which was an experience. Rode some elephants there for all. 263 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: While, Wow, how does your body cope with that? Because 264 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: how you do six shows a week, unpacked, the tent 265 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: down and stay in good physical form? 266 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've definitely noticed just as I've aged and 267 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: as I've grown as a person, that relationship with my 268 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,479 Speaker 3: body has certainly changed. Like, I definitely had some unhealthy 269 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: attitudes from growing up in a sporting environment, and then 270 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: Nika was pretty similar, and I had some attitudes towards 271 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: training and things that weren't particularly helpful. But I was 272 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: young enough that my body was very resilient take a 273 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: lot of punishment. I think around twenty four, twenty five, 274 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: twenty six, I started to notice that I really needed 275 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: to make sure I was warming up properly and cooling 276 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: down properly, because if I didn't do that, it was 277 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: problematic and things would happen. But also we had a 278 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: physio on tour with us, so any sort of little 279 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: niggles or things we could get checked out really really 280 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: quickly and get a plan around. And then sauna. Sauna 281 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: was a real life saver. That is something that if 282 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: you work six days a week and you've got two 283 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: shows that on the weekend, if you have one day off, 284 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: the best thing that I could do was go and 285 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: have a sauna, because it really makes your body feel 286 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: like you've had two days off even though you haven't had. 287 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: You get your bang for your buck, You're right, all right, Yeah, 288 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: time slows down in the sauna. It's all right, guys, 289 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: and get my two days worth in this one day, and. 290 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: Then like sleeping and eating and making sure my routine 291 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: was it's good. My pre show routine would definitely be 292 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: like half my dinner early and then do costume makeup, 293 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: all that coffee and a kaka oh yes, pre show 294 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: poo yes, yeah, very important, and then two squares of 295 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: dark chocolate and interval and then post show cool down, 296 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: second dinner. Oh my goodness, that was pretty much how 297 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: I rolled. 298 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 299 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: Well, you've got to find what works for yourself too, 300 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: you know. But all gigs paid the same, Like you know, 301 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: you obviously get some danger money from hanging from the ceiling, 302 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: But do you get gigs that are paying more than 303 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: just your regular circus work. 304 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've done the really well paid. I was 305 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: a stunt double for a flying trapeze artist once. It 306 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: was ridiculous. 307 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: Stunt double for another trapeze artist. 308 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: Yes, that's just like having two of the same thing. 309 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: What Yeah, Well, do you remember at the start I 310 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: told you that the flying chipiez that you were thinking 311 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: of is bigger it has the net, yes, and the 312 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: flying tupiece that I do is slightly smaller and has matts. 313 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: Yes. 314 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: So this big fancy bank was making an advertisement and 315 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: they wanted to show trust, so trapeze catch ah, And 316 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: they hired these trapeze artists, and then they got to 317 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: the venue and they realized that it was the little 318 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: rig not the big one. So the trapeze artist was like, 319 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how to fly on this what? 320 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: So then what they call you in? You do the trick? 321 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: But then do they do a close up of the 322 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: other artists. 323 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, they dressed me up like the flying trapeze artists. 324 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 325 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: She could do everything except the trick. Yeah, so I 326 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: just did the trick. 327 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: Sorry, she could do everything except for the hard bit. 328 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I'll see how it is. 329 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: But yeah I got to I got to go somewhere 330 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: in eastern Europe. It was really beautiful. I got paid 331 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: really well. That was pretty great. 332 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: I interviewed a Hollywood stunt double recently and I was 333 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: asking him. I was like, is it really annoying seeing 334 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: other people get like applauded for your work essentially because 335 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: you do all the hard bit? 336 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: Was that hard for you? Were you like, hey, I 337 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: did that trick? Actually, oh no, I got paid exactly. 338 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: There are some things that if you get paid enough whatever. 339 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to know what the best and 340 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: the worst thing has been in your circus career, Like 341 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: what's the most exciting amazing thing that you think back 342 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: and you go, damn, I did that. That was great, 343 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: versus being like the moment where you're like, this is horrendous. 344 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I can do the horrendous one off the top 345 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: of my head. I shut myself. 346 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: While you performing everyone. 347 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: So that's a that's a secret. The PSP, yes, the 348 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: coffee and a kaka. So that that happened in India 349 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: where I had a bit of Delli belly going on. 350 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 3: Thankfully I was wearing three pairs of tides. So my 351 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: first trick was actually pulling up an over onto my hips, 352 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: which just pressed things that couldn't take it at that time. 353 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: And so I very quickly just cut straight to the 354 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: final trick, did that and then took myself. 355 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 356 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: So we didn't have any actual like overspray, you know, 357 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: any explosions, but it's that moment you go, something's got 358 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: gone wrong. 359 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: That's the benefit of being an erlis. You're constantly wearing 360 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: so many layers because it bruises and grazes. 361 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, oh my goodness. 362 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 3: But it was not comfortable and I was mortified. 363 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 2: That Nappy would not have been fun to unwrap at 364 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: the end. Oh my goodness. 365 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: I don't I'm not going into details. I did my 366 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: five presents as is wanted in a traditional circuits. 367 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: That's scary. That's scary. But what about the best, right? 368 00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 369 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: From shooting yourself too? 370 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: The best was I mentioned I had a number of 371 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: caravans that broke down. Yes, that had happened. I had 372 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: sourced a friend's caravan that I was going to move into, 373 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: but it was all very short notice and I didn't 374 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: have time, and so I was trying to move house 375 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: essentially as the show was going on. So I would 376 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: like do my act quickly, change for the next one, 377 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: come back and move some more stuff over. And then 378 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 3: after the show, everyone came and made a chain between 379 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: the two caravans and they took all of my stuff 380 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: literally piece by piece, in a human chain, from the 381 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: broken caravan to my new one. Like they pulled up 382 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: the floor and placed it in the new an for 383 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 3: me so that I kept like all my decort everything, 384 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: And so that was the highlight. That was like the 385 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: whole circus rallying around to give me a hand. 386 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: That's really interesting. 387 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: Out of everything you've done, it's nothing to do with 388 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: actually you've done, or a trick you've done, or an 389 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: audience you perform for. It comes back to community again. 390 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: That's so fascinating. Moving into you know what you do now? 391 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: Is there any like intersection with what you learned in 392 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: being the circus as to you know your role now 393 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: as a consent educator. 394 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: There is so much crossover. Yeah, so much crossover. So 395 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: I think when we're talking about consenting, we talk a 396 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: lot about listening to our intuition and getting to know ourselves, 397 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 3: and a lot of that is our early warning system, 398 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: where we have our brain stem that gives us those 399 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 3: really fun feelings of butterflies and our tummy and sweaty 400 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 3: palms and goose pumps and increase heart rate and all 401 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: of that stuff. And essentially that is our brain telling 402 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: us something is unsafe here, heads up, get ready, you 403 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: might need to fight, flight or freeze. 404 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: Would you say as a circus artist, half of it 405 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: is ignoring that because you like, because your body's like 406 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: probably should be jumping off there, not doing it anyway. 407 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 3: Freaking out. 408 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like learning how to turn that voice off, 409 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: being like shut up. 410 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's something to be suppressed. And 411 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: I think that's where the intersection lies is a lot 412 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: of people think that we have to ignore those things 413 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: and push through those things, but actually it's really valuable 414 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: information and that's our animal brain and it's existed like 415 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: that for as long as humans have because we need 416 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: it and it's a good thing, and it's also a 417 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: fun thing. It's why we do trapees, it's why we 418 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 3: go on roller coasters, and it's why we watch horror 419 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: movies because we like to get those feelings and it's great. 420 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: But ultimately, it's a message from our body. So I 421 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 3: think it's really important to listen to that. And that's 422 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: something that Circus taught me to do really, really well, 423 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: because I'm not always that self aware to go, you 424 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: know what, I had an argument with that person today. 425 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: I feel really betrayed by that person, or like this 426 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: thing didn't happen in the way I thought it was 427 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: going to be, and nu's just put me off a bit. 428 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: I don't think those things, but what I do is 429 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, actually, I feel a bit shaky right now, 430 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: maybe I should treat this a little bit differently or 431 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: check in with myself or And I think being self 432 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: aware in that way is really helpful when navigating consenting conversations, 433 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 3: which is something that we are constantly doing. It's not 434 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: just for sex, because if you just start talking about 435 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: consent when you're talking about sex, it's really awkward and 436 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: uncomfortable and potentially harassment. So it's something that it's language 437 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: and role modeling behaviors that we need to do constantly, 438 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: and Circus is such a brilliant platform for that because 439 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: we already have a situation where we're interacting physically with 440 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: other people, and so we have to have those conversations 441 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: and it does become really normal to be like, actually, 442 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 3: I need you to throw me a little bit harder. 443 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: Can you grab a little bit lower on my foot? 444 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 3: Like now that I do the two roles, I really 445 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: feel like I talk the walk in my sex education 446 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: work and I walk the talk in the Circus studio. 447 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: And it's pretty amazing when you start teaching kids and 448 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: young people and they say no, and you're like, okay, 449 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: well let's do something else. Then let's find a way 450 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: to make this work for you. It's really empowering. 451 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even think that. It's just part of it. 452 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: Like in circus when you're working with other partners, you 453 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: need to be asking all these questions. It's almost just 454 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: like it's standard practice. 455 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: I love it. 456 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: To wrap it all up, I want to know what 457 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 2: are some of your tricks? You know, do you have 458 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: fancy names for them or do you rename them yourself? 459 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: Because I want to name a trick. Okay, you know 460 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: normally that name you know, name something after you if 461 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: you do it. But I'm just going to live vicariously 462 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: through you. 463 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so great. 464 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you this one and what I've named it, 465 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: and then i'll tell you what I don't have a 466 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: name for, and maybe you can name it. 467 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: Oh, perfect, perfect. 468 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: So the trick that I do is called a sovrie, 469 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: which means jump twist, and then a retu debut, which 470 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: is like a return up to standing, So it's a 471 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: back summersault from under the bar to land on. 472 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Of course it is what else? 473 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: And I call that one a scary scary because the 474 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: first part is scary and the second part is also scary. 475 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you a new one, all right, 476 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: so what what do you need renamed? 477 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: There's one called a gallipet where you kneel on the 478 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: bar and flip off the front. 479 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: Kneel on bar, flip up front. Yes, just write notes 480 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: I want to get this right, yeah. 481 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, followed by a hock salt. So your knees are 482 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: on the bar and then you let go of the 483 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: ropes and whip all the way around by your knees 484 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: back to sit. 485 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, the only logical thing to call that 486 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: is absolutely not, absolutely not not happening. So you're going 487 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: to go scary scary, absolutely not a big finish. 488 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner. 489 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: So eighty isn't a blimp pilot. 490 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: No, she is a trapeze artist who has literally run 491 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: away and join the circus and has taught us today 492 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: that you can never trust a fart. You've been listening 493 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: to an iHeart Australia and Kiss production concealed with artsimone. 494 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: Listen for free on the iHeart app and listen to 495 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: your art's content and to see the gorgeous ring leader 496 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: of this circus, check us out on the socials