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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, our next guest is a three time Emmy Award

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Speaker 2: winning actor. You might know him best as the beloved,

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Speaker 2: eccentric Cosmo Kramer. Seinfeld's Michael Richards is pulling back the

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Speaker 2: curtain and giving us a glimpse into his world. As

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Speaker 2: one of the TV's most memorable characters. He has written

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Speaker 2: a book called Entrances and Exits. He joined us now

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Speaker 2: he's revealed to us that he's barefoot. Michael Richards Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I that's proof.

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Speaker 2: That's proof.

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Speaker 3: They're very, very clean souls there, Michael.

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Speaker 2: You've got a beautiful suit on in your barefoot it's

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Speaker 2: probably Is this your personality in a nutshell?

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Speaker 1: It could? Well, yeah, sure, there are times I go barefoot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, freak.

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Speaker 1: I think that. What comes to mind is I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of that cover of the Beatles where one of them

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Speaker 1: was walking across Abbey Road. He's barefoot Paul McCartney. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it's Bob, thanks, thank you. Yeah, yeah, that's very cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: There was the long held rumor that because he was barefoot,

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Speaker 4: he was dead. There was that rumor that Paul McCartney

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Speaker 4: had died back in nineteen sixty seven, and you didn't

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Speaker 4: hear that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes I did. I was just I was going

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Speaker 1: to segue into my death and view of removing myself

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Speaker 1: from show business all a while.

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Speaker 3: Well it has been.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think we'd get straight Well, I didn't think

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Speaker 4: we get straight into that because I've been reading your book,

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Speaker 4: and I really like this book because you deal with

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Speaker 4: what happened in two thousand and six, and I don't

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Speaker 4: think you need to know flagulate yourself anymore about it.

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Speaker 4: You've certainly gone to make amends about it what happened

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Speaker 4: at the laugh Factory back in two thousand and six,

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Speaker 4: But at the time you said it was about your anger.

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Speaker 3: Your anger got the better of you.

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Speaker 4: And I know what it's like to be on stage

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Speaker 4: and someone heckles here because you're going somewhere with somewhere

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Speaker 4: and you're almost tunnel focused. I'm not excusing what you said,

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Speaker 4: but at the same time, I get what happened.

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Speaker 1: If that helps, yeah, yeah, but still you know it's

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Speaker 1: there there are. What I did is certainly just really

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Speaker 1: not good anger. Anger. Anger. Yeah. Yeah, the trouble it

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Speaker 1: got me into, but it caused me to move into

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Speaker 1: something deeper in myself. So it was a catalyst for

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Speaker 1: going deeper into my life, and that took me into

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Speaker 1: places in relation to my mother and the nature of unwantedness.

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Speaker 1: And I can see how anger comes out of unwantedness.

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Speaker 1: If the heckler in the audience the way in which

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Speaker 1: my act was interrupted, I feel unwanted. I see there

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Speaker 1: are some issues that caused me to go into what

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Speaker 1: the hell is this anger? My god? Oh well, it

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Speaker 1: took some work work.

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Speaker 2: Crimer was such an iconic character. What a gift to

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Speaker 2: be given? Is he like you? Are you like him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm touched by the eccentric I was, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: you can't play an eccentric character like that without being

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Speaker 1: touched by that. It was grounded in the fool, the gesture.

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Speaker 1: I found this capacity to make my friends laugh since

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Speaker 1: I was a little guy. So it's talent and I

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Speaker 1: cultivated it for many, many years. Before I even got

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Speaker 1: to Seinfeld, I was around the block doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of comedy. Certainly started in the clubs where I worked

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Speaker 1: in a very unusual way without much material. I was

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Speaker 1: always improvising and letting this funny funny come through in

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Speaker 1: the most natural way. I take note, of course, what's

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Speaker 3: And it's but I look at when when you started.

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Speaker 4: So you're on Jay Leno's show as and you just

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Speaker 4: come on as this fitness guru to the stars, a

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Speaker 4: do this bit and you're wearing a woman's costume, a

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Speaker 4: that thing, and you've come on with Jay and you're

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Speaker 4: I want for Kramer. But the NBC executives they had

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Speaker 4: of Kramer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the business show business. Yeah, I had to.

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Speaker 1: Jerry knew of me doing comedy and so forth. It'd

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Speaker 1: Tonight Show. But the networks they were in doubt because

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Speaker 1: was canceled, so they weren't that interested in bringing me

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Speaker 1: on to another show right after being canceled in the

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Speaker 1: show my stuff and uh three times and I delivered. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank goodness for that. And I was cast.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a sense day one what it would become?

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Speaker 1: Oh? God, no, I knew it was going to be funny.

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Speaker 3: I knew that.

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Speaker 1: And along the way, we were we were we we

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Speaker 1: that's a very experienced ensemble. Everybody knew what comedy is,

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Speaker 1: interested in the pilot. They wanted to ditch it. So

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Speaker 1: but what kept us on with the reviews. We got

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Speaker 1: think we only got a four show pickup. Hell is

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Speaker 1: that they're certainly not committed. They wanted to see how

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Speaker 5: Show did fairly well with the review with the with reviews,

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Speaker 5: so they gave us what did They give us a

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Speaker 1: That's what we can do. And we finally got the

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Speaker 3: You know, and that's all right.

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Speaker 1: I guess now they believe.

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Speaker 4: Out of all the because crime had some great wacky

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Speaker 4: money making scheme, which out of all of prime money

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Speaker 4: that would fly out of all of them?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we opened up with crame America, you know, industries,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's operating from a cell phone in

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Speaker 1: his pocket. He has no office or anything. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really a dream or as I played it, it

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Speaker 1: part of his imagination. Kramer has a very active imagination. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess you could say he's crazy, you know, but

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Speaker 1: he's so committed to his imagination. And everything comes out

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Speaker 1: Kramer is deeply imaginable, and that's his money making idea

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Speaker 4: We had Jerry on the show some years ago and

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Speaker 4: we asked, how would have Seinfeld gone in a post

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Speaker 4: sort of said at first went all, now, I don't

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Speaker 4: you know, George would have, you know, pretended to be

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Speaker 4: in one of the towers. Something would have happened. There

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Speaker 4: would have been something that would have come of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Kramer would have I think he would have

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Speaker 3: It would have definitely helped out.

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Speaker 1: I think he would have got in there with a

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Speaker 3: There would have been a commendation.

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Speaker 1: He would carry his giddy up, you know, into helping people.

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Speaker 1: That's a great part to Kramer. He he does want

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Speaker 1: to help all his schemes, no matter what, even if

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Speaker 1: through his imagination, He's really all out for helping.

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Speaker 2: It's a very nice energy, the giddy up energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we called it the Kovorka.

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Speaker 4: The Cavorka that he's got, the whay he comes into

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Speaker 4: the room, he comes into life and he's ready to go.

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Speaker 1: And that's the great giddy up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Inspirational and it's true. And the book is just absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 4: I'm loving reading it. At the moment I think I copy,

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Speaker 4: I'm smelling it. It smells like beach, it smells like beat

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Speaker 4: your book. I like it smells like your feet.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Look there they are. If only we had that on

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Speaker 4: the zoom. The smell, the smell of success. Michael, thank

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Speaker 4: you for Johnny.

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Speaker 1: You know there's palm reading. I wonder if there's foot

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Speaker 1: reading this. Can somebody tell my future?

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Speaker 4: They are the cleanest souls I've ever seen. For a

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Speaker 4: man that purports to not wear shoes. Usually those you know,

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Speaker 4: they're cracked and terrible. They are beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Maybe I could get some foot commercial.

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Speaker 4: Somebody get him a foot deal. Buy the book. It's

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Speaker 4: so good and call now entrances and exits. It's available

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Speaker 4: of every good bookstore and bad. Michael Richards, thank you

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Speaker 4: for joining us. Thank you, thank you for being so

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Speaker 4: love you know, and the book is great.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much. You sign it for me,

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Speaker 3: you sign it.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I wish I could. If I could do that, boy,

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Speaker 1: what that would be?

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Speaker 3: You're just doing it? That would be That would be great.

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Speaker 3: But thank you so much for it's it's a real

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Speaker 3: honor to have you on. And thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you for having.

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Speaker 3: Me side of Beth. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It made me feel comfortable. Thank you terrific.

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Speaker 3: You were great. You killed you killed Thank you Michael.

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Speaker 3: Take it easy,