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Speaker 1: up now with Thomas Morgan from the Northern Territory News,

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Speaker 1: because we know that there has been a reporter which

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Speaker 1: was initially published over the course of the weekend which

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Speaker 1: showed that Anti Police management was aware of a home

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Speaker 1: it housed offices in and had been having mold issues

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Speaker 1: joining me on the line to tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about this situation is Tom Morgan. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Tom.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning Katie. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to have you on. Tom. Now tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about this story. What exactly has happened.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a bit of a long story. But back

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, this lovely family, Stephen who I talked

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Speaker 2: to in the original story in the Sunday paper, they

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Speaker 2: all moved up to a remote community on the Tewee Islands.

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Speaker 2: They were provided with at home and you know, quite

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Speaker 2: soon after Stephen tells me, they started noticing a lot

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Speaker 2: of mold growing on the wall. It now turns out

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Speaker 2: Anti Police were aware of issues with that home as

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Speaker 2: early as two thousand and three, and that there was

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Speaker 2: you know there was mole reports dating back that far

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Speaker 2: and that you know, the advice that the police had

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Speaker 2: given tenants in that anti police home was you know,

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Speaker 2: just keep your eck on running twenty four seven basically. Now,

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Speaker 2: it all sort of came to a head back in

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Speaker 2: I think March twenty nineteen when this young girl, Sienna,

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Speaker 2: had a pretty frightening medical episode. She ended up having

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Speaker 2: was you know, basically had a throat infection and needed

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Speaker 2: intensive care for eleven days. She suffered complications such as

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Speaker 2: setsus and you know, has been left with debilitating sort

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Speaker 2: of ailments. She can't move or fear perpose on her

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Speaker 2: right foot, and I believe she also can't blink in

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Speaker 2: are very much of the belief that the mold in

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Speaker 2: that home, which a later report founder were very high

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Speaker 2: levels of mold spores in the air as well. Yep,

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Speaker 2: they were very much of the opinion that that was

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Speaker 1: Tom. What has been the reaction from the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: Police foreign Emergency services since this story first ran over

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Speaker 1: the weekend?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I went to them on Thursday for just

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Speaker 2: you know, I sent them very detailed questions. I think

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Speaker 2: it was about five or six questions and I sent

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Speaker 2: Friday just got told look, probably won't be able to

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Speaker 2: was like, fair enough, I think we'll continue to run

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Speaker 2: the story though. Yeah, And basically they got back to

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Speaker 2: you know, fair enough if it's a matter that's before

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Speaker 2: work Safe. There is an investigation now that's been launched

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Speaker 2: by work Safe. There was a letter from the Attorney

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Speaker 2: General of the time, Selina Yubo, saying that they will

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Speaker 2: launch an investigation into this and they want to look

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Speaker 2: that investigation. But not a great deal of information coming

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Speaker 1: Police Tom Where to now for this little family? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how is this little girl and where is her father?

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Speaker 1: Still a member of the territory police force.

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Speaker 2: No, he moved back to New Zealand and that's part

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Speaker 2: of his anger. Is the only real thing that anti

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Speaker 2: So they now live in New Zealand on a farm.

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Speaker 2: You know, Luisiana's still got lifelong you will have to

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Speaker 2: obviously still pretty upset about it. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: he moved to that island for a dream job. He

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Speaker 1: Now it's a terrible situation, Yeah, Tom, Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: terrible situation, mate. And and look, I'll be really interested

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Paul Mcue did talk quite extensively about it

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Speaker 3: three of this home that you know, this is far

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Speaker 3: from you know, it's a significant, severe incident, but it

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Speaker 3: is far from alone. There are lots of other issues,

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Speaker 3: not just with you know, police housing, but with remote

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, Well, we've got to make sure these

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Speaker 1: And certainly people need to be safe in those homes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, you know, people people do like

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Speaker 3: as Stephen said to me, he moved out there for

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Speaker 3: and do it in a.

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Speaker 2: Very unique part of the world. And for this to happen,

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, in his eyes, it's deeply shocking

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Speaker 2: necessarily he needs to feel. And so to bring me

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Speaker 2: to the issues to light I think is really important

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Speaker 2: and I think actually needs to be taken on on

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Speaker 2: making sure that these homes are up to scratch. You know,

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Speaker 2: even if you know a link between this little girl's

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Speaker 2: medical episode and the mold in that home cannot be

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Speaker 2: definitively reached. I mean, the pictures that you may have

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Speaker 2: seen in my story paint a pretty, you know die

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Speaker 2: picture of the living conditions in that home and the family.

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Speaker 2: You know, they did do their due diligence. They tried

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Speaker 2: to clean the home, they used chemicals, it just grew back.

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Speaker 2: So for them, you know, they at least want to

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Speaker 2: see something done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think is absolutely fair enough. Well, Tom Morgan,

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Speaker 1: the political reporter and also covering off on lots of

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Speaker 1: different issues with the Northern tiret Trend News, It's always

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Speaker 1: good to catch up with you. We appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: this morning and talking us through this story.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you