WEBVTT - The best of the pick up

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany, and this is our radio show where we

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<v Speaker 1>package up all the best bits from the Pickup throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the week, our national radio show, and we bring it

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<v Speaker 1>here so that you don't have to listen to the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to listen to the radio though, Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know there's ads and you should listen to those as.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because we're on radio, and that's also important.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this bit because we get to package up

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that we like doing the best, like little

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<v Speaker 1>bits and pieces and the stories that we don't share

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<v Speaker 1>in the pod that are great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had an important chat this week that I liked,

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<v Speaker 3>but about my sister Sherry and experience that she had

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<v Speaker 3>been a new mum breastfeeding on a train.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was sort of off the back.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a TikToker who was posting about her experience being

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<v Speaker 3>heavily pregnant on a pack train and the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>chivalry being dead and no one offering their seats anymore

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<v Speaker 3>for pregnant women, and it is a very interesting discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I do think like off the back. The

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<v Speaker 1>more I thought about it, And I'm not saying this

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm pregnant. I don't think that I personally have

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<v Speaker 1>had any negative experiences, but I think that the pendulum

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was in one direction, Like there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of support and chivalry around women being pregnant and

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<v Speaker 1>being helpful, and now I think that we are sort

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<v Speaker 1>of as a society, we're a little bit more closed

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<v Speaker 1>off to being helpful to people. And when you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about what Sherry experienced, it's a very sad outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also am not particularly surprised by it. Put

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<v Speaker 1>it that way, Yeah, well I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was surprised by it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think we'd gone down the Google like that anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all coming on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I also shared a story on the show

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<v Speaker 1>about something that Marley overshared at school about me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had a very funny and interesting conversation with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the after school care teachers about a particular picture

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<v Speaker 1>that Marley had drawn, which was very generous and very kind.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you, it is not going on

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<v Speaker 1>the fridge that one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because you think that, like the overshare in

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<v Speaker 3>the situation is going to be you being my national

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<v Speaker 3>radio podcasting.

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<v Speaker 4>But she trumped you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I also think I've deserved this

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<v Speaker 1>because I've told so many stories about my kids that

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<v Speaker 1>she was just like, fuck, mum, you know what, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got one up on you ll not that she knows.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't listen to the pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what she knows? But she knows that

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<v Speaker 1>I know the limit. Mostly I think I know the limit.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you've given a lot of credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it. There is an etiquette when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to Facebook marketplace right, Like it's kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>unspoken etiquette about how you interact with the buyer and

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<v Speaker 1>the seller and what you do when you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>pick the thing up from their house and X y Z,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think most people know how to be when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to bask like a place.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty annoying though, like how many conversations you have

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<v Speaker 3>about how much something is? Can you do a better price?

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<v Speaker 3>You talk to them for like where are you when's

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<v Speaker 3>a good time? Talked to them for three days about

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<v Speaker 3>picking up something for twenty bucks and then they're like

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<v Speaker 3>not and then they go then they got yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like just wasting my life.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about funny experiences that we'd had off

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<v Speaker 1>the back of it, because everyone's had like a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a cooked experience if you've used it enough times.

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<v Speaker 1>I had something happened recently where I wasn't even selling it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was giving away a coffee table. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>just someone come and take this coffee table off my hands.

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<v Speaker 1>And this man came into my house. I was there

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids, Matt wasn't home. He comes into the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty five minutes later, he is still in my house

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<v Speaker 1>having a chat. Lovely English guy. He's moving to Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give me his life story. Maybe he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make some new friends. Maybe he was talking about his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>His wife was having a baby. Then he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know about the dog. And I was like, please just

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<v Speaker 1>take the coffee table and get out of my house.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll pay you to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was like, I'll give you the twenty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to lead an. I had to pretend like I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to go and have a shower and that the kids

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<v Speaker 1>need a nat. My kid's full. She doesn't n ask.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'll watch the kids, want you shall But

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<v Speaker 1>there was one story that came up producer Grace here

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<v Speaker 1>she is, I don't think that anyone could top the

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook marketplace story that you had. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of trust that was put in you. Yes there was.

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<v Speaker 5>But my wife, Diana, she is the sort of person

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<v Speaker 5>that gets really into hobbies and just loves buying everything

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<v Speaker 5>before she's even had to go at it. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of weeks ago she was like, I want

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<v Speaker 5>to get really into surfing. Has never surfed in her life,

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<v Speaker 5>and she was like, this is my thing now. So

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<v Speaker 5>he organized this meet up to get this surfboard off

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<v Speaker 5>Facebook marketplace. The guy was like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>actually out for the day, but I'm going to pop

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<v Speaker 5>it next to this table blah blah blah in the garage.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, great, We're sweet. We drove an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half there. How much was he charging

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<v Speaker 1>for us surfboard in the garage?

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<v Speaker 2>Down south? Down south?

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a good price, good price, great.

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<v Speaker 5>Surfboard looked good for beginners. We're like, were set and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I will indulge you this once, but

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<v Speaker 5>this will be the last surfboard you're buying anyway. So

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<v Speaker 5>we get there, find the surfboard exactly where he said,

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<v Speaker 5>next to the table. And then we're like, okay, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not going to fit in the car. We're going to

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<v Speaker 5>have to rope it to the roof. So we're in

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<v Speaker 5>the kind of mentality of if he can't tie knots

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<v Speaker 5>tie lots, so we have like.

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<v Speaker 2>S that's the saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So we've tied it all down. We're driving back on

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<v Speaker 5>the freeway. We're like, we've nailed this, but then the

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<v Speaker 5>surfboard starts flapping.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, the wind that gets under the surfboard on the

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<v Speaker 1>roof of your car. We're about to lose this surfboard

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<v Speaker 1>that we've just purchased. My wife's new hobby, who's.

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<v Speaker 5>So excited about it. It's flapping, it's flapping, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>like heart thumping. You can't even pull over because it's

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<v Speaker 5>like a bit on a highway. So we get home

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<v Speaker 5>and we just made it. There's like ropes flying everywhere,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're like, this is so dangerous. I cannot believe

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<v Speaker 5>that we've made it back with this surfboard. Take a

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<v Speaker 5>picture of it to send it to the guy and go,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We just made it.

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<v Speaker 3>A bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Know where this is going. He sent back, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>my surfboard. He just stole some. We accidentally we went

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<v Speaker 2>into the garage.

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<v Speaker 5>It was exactly where he said, but it was his

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<v Speaker 5>roommate's surfboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Stole someone's surfboard, so it was the right I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you'd into the wrong house.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, no, it was the roommate's surfboard, much fancier than

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<v Speaker 5>the one.

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<v Speaker 2>We were picking up.

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<v Speaker 5>We were like, we've got that.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to drive it back. Had to drive all

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<v Speaker 2>the way back.

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<v Speaker 5>We learned how to tie nots the second time around,

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<v Speaker 5>so at least the surfboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Stayed attached to the car. I'm just imagining you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>this surfboard back. It's so bad enoughter being tired to

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of roof racksy like, there it is, give

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<v Speaker 1>me the other one. It's a trade up.

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<v Speaker 2>When I stole that dog from the person's car.

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<v Speaker 1>From Memphs, you thought we were saving it.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Lost and I took it from the lawn and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, don't worry, sweet angel, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna save you. I had to flick two days.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out.

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<v Speaker 3>When I finally contacted the owner, he was so grateful.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, thank you so much for being worried sick,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, tell me where you live or

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<v Speaker 3>drop it back. He gave me his address and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty sure that's where I took it from.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, you're welcome, Like it's crazy out there,

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<v Speaker 3>be careful.

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<v Speaker 2>Took the dog back, mortified.

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<v Speaker 1>So good grace. When you first held that story, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you'd gone into the wrong house, but you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a choice returning it since you so evidently took

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong one. Now there is debate that's erupting online

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, and off the back of doing my

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<v Speaker 1>gender reveal on this show only a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the timing is quite interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that for some couples, gender disappointment is a

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<v Speaker 1>very very real thing, and wanting to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>choose whether you have a girl or a boy in

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<v Speaker 1>some instances ideally would be something that some parents would

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<v Speaker 1>like to explore. I know that when Matt found out

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<v Speaker 1>that he was having my husband a third baby girl,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a little bit of him that had a

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<v Speaker 1>moment of sadness, and we spoke about it on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thrilled to be a dad to another girl. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I think he always expected that

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<v Speaker 1>he would also be a dad to a boy and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to happen for him now unless he

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<v Speaker 1>does it with another woman at some point down the track.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason why we're talking about this is because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a content creator. Her name is Caitlin Bailey. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a single mum. She's got three kids, two of them

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<v Speaker 1>are boys, and she has one girl now. She's just

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<v Speaker 1>paid forty five thousand dollars to go overseas and do

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<v Speaker 1>gender selection on an IVF treatment where you can choose

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<v Speaker 1>the gender of your unborn child. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>moral debates surrounding this because it's something that's currently still

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<v Speaker 1>illegal in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, And I think she was maybe a bit taken

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<v Speaker 3>aback about the pushback against it because she was pretty

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<v Speaker 3>open about her story talking about it, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that the public's response has quite shocked her.

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<v Speaker 2>She has said, if.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got the technology that allows us to do this

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not hurting anybody, I don't understand why it's

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<v Speaker 3>not an option here in Australia because sex selection of

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<v Speaker 3>your embryos is illegal in Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not an option. You can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You absolutely cannot choose to test which sex you want

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<v Speaker 3>and to implant it. But there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>countries overseas America you can do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is why she spend forty five thousand dollars to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go and do it.

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<v Speaker 4>She feels like she needs to balance her family.

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<v Speaker 3>But the idea of her saying I don't understand why

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<v Speaker 3>it can't be done here, I do think she hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>thought about the broader issues surrounding this. And there have

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<v Speaker 3>been a few people off the back of this debate

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<v Speaker 3>that have.

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<v Speaker 2>Made some really good points.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no guarantee that you might have a child a

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<v Speaker 3>signed female at birth who later identifies as trade totally,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's other things in this as well. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>in some cultures having a boy is more desirable, so

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<v Speaker 1>it might create like an unequal gender population which would

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<v Speaker 1>cause issues down the track. But also I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>a mum of two little girls and I'm now having

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<v Speaker 1>a third little girl, even if I had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to select the gender of my children, I wouldn't And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for that is is because I feel as

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<v Speaker 1>though it puts so much pressure on that child to

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<v Speaker 1>be the specific gender that you wanted. It puts so

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<v Speaker 1>much pressure on whatever you thought that relationship was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be or that dynamic was going to be. Like

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<v Speaker 1>just because you have a little boy, doesn't mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be into little boy things, doesn't mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a little quote unquote traditional little boy,

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<v Speaker 1>and vice versa. The same for a girl. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I come to it now as a mum of

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<v Speaker 1>two girls, both of which are completely different children, Like

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<v Speaker 1>both my girls are so so different, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel as though I've had two different experiences of motherhood

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<v Speaker 1>with them individually, because there's such their own, little unique

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<v Speaker 1>people that I don't feel as though I'm missing out

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<v Speaker 1>on something by not having a boy. I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is in our in all cultures, really, gender becomes

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<v Speaker 1>something that people are so fixated on, and this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of having a balanced family, to think that you have

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<v Speaker 1>two little boys at home and a little girl at home,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's something you can't be happy with because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a balance, Like families aren't perfect. And I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hate the way that the terminology is being

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<v Speaker 1>built around this.

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest, it doesn't bother me that she's done it.

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<v Speaker 3>What else I found interesting is off the back of that,

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<v Speaker 3>there's also discussions about the fact that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people think you shouldn't genetically test your embryos. They think

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<v Speaker 3>that that well, they think that even that comes down

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<v Speaker 3>to like a type of selection, Whereas I will disagree

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<v Speaker 3>with that. I have my own embryos that I have

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<v Speaker 3>genetically tested, and there's a reason for it. I have

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<v Speaker 3>had embryos that had things wrong with them and couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>and didn't survive, and if they were implanted in me

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<v Speaker 3>there would have been a danger to us both and

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<v Speaker 3>a high risk of miscarriage. So these kind of things,

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<v Speaker 3>genetically testing is just doing the best thing for mother

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<v Speaker 3>and child in the future and to reduce help reduce

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<v Speaker 3>things like a risk of miscarriage.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would like fight that argument.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, but I think these are two different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Genetic testing is something that happens during pregnancy anyway. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have your I just had my twenty one week

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<v Speaker 1>morphology scans, you know, so I'm going to find out

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<v Speaker 1>if everything's tracking long fine, you have your NIPT scan

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that your blood works and everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's so that mums can have a greater control

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<v Speaker 1>over the life that they're going to live and also

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<v Speaker 1>over the quality of life that that child's going to have.

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<v Speaker 1>But this conversation around gender and choosing a gender, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a disorder, that's not a chromosomal abnormality. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>something that's where the baby's not developing in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that it should.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a family aesthetic choice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an aesthetic yeah, or it's an experience. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong, I'm not outraged by it. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be like jumping on the pylon of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think for me, if I had the choice,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't explore it. I think it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>need to pay for something that's very specific that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have control over.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, there's a video that came up on my feed

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<v Speaker 3>that had been absolutely hysterics. I do want to preface

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<v Speaker 3>this by saying I believed it at the start. I

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<v Speaker 3>had to go and do a deep dive to find

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<v Speaker 3>out it was a print call. But it's this five

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<v Speaker 3>year old Irish girl that calls the demolition company in

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<v Speaker 3>Ireland to knock a school down.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a listen to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>My name's Becky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have a proposal for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you the demolition man, Yes, he's the top boss.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>What's okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Hello?

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to help me destroy my school.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want to blow up?

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't blow it up?

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<v Speaker 3>Or knock it down?

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever, whatever you want done, and you just make.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure that they're all in the building when you.

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<v Speaker 4>Knock it down, you put all the names on us.

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<v Speaker 5>I give you a.

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<v Speaker 3>Brilliant It's like a ten minute call where she's saying, like,

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<v Speaker 3>my teachers, may we do homework?

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<v Speaker 1>Knocked the school down.

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<v Speaker 3>The demolition companies in like absolute hysterics.

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<v Speaker 2>But it made me think, have your kids ever done this.

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<v Speaker 4>Where they've called someone accidentally or they've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got I mean, my kids are not like they're not

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<v Speaker 1>that age, Like they're not at an age where they

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<v Speaker 1>can live. Yeah, but five is not old enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, do you know what, I'm gonna call a

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<v Speaker 1>demolition company and get them to knock the school down.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't thinks it, so I don't they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>filled with that much hatred. But look, I do think

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<v Speaker 1>their kids do things with phones and they'll they'll call people,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't always understand the repercussions of what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We had one instance about six months ago, so Marley

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<v Speaker 1>would have just been five or five and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was with her cousins and they were playing

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<v Speaker 1>on a payphone. Her cousins are all similar age, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what are they doing? And I could

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<v Speaker 1>see that they were laughing really hard about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I don't like that. I walked

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<v Speaker 1>over and they just called Triple zero and someone had

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<v Speaker 1>answered the phone, and I obviously I gave them the

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<v Speaker 1>full schooling on why that was so problematic. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was so upset because she didn't really understand what it

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<v Speaker 1>was that she'd done, Like she had no comprehension about

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<v Speaker 1>the magnitude of why that's a problem you funny, No,

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<v Speaker 1>she literally they just pressed some buttons and then someone

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<v Speaker 1>answered it and they you know, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the police, Like she didn't know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I remember being a kid and doing prank

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<v Speaker 1>calls and thinking I was so funny. I'd call my

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor I'd pretend to be someone really confused OLGA.

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<v Speaker 4>At the time, prank calls gave mem anxiety.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't do them. I couldn't even do a knock

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<v Speaker 3>and run. I was like a pretty goodie two show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where one of those radio shows that can't do

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<v Speaker 1>prank calls because everybody freaks out and freezes up. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true. Well, look, actually we've got some calls coming through.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of nat, who did your kids call?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my goodness. It was the most traumatic experience with.

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<v Speaker 5>My adult life.

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<v Speaker 6>I think had at the time six and a half

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<v Speaker 6>year old daughter, and you know hashtag mom life. I

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<v Speaker 6>hadn't been in the working game for a while, and

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<v Speaker 6>I finally got a gig for this new job, and

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<v Speaker 6>the first thing they asked me to do was a

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<v Speaker 6>FaceTime call with about seven or eight other people, the

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<v Speaker 6>HR team, the CEOs, the bosses, like, there's some well

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<v Speaker 6>known people here in the mix who are like in

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<v Speaker 6>the spotlight. I'll just say that I want to give

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<v Speaker 6>their names up. But I had the FaceTime call. Everything

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<v Speaker 6>was great, And then later that day I actually went

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<v Speaker 6>out and left the kid at home with her dad,

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<v Speaker 6>and she asked if she could FaceTime all of her

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<v Speaker 6>cousins and I said, not a problem. It's the group call,

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<v Speaker 6>the last group call on the iPad, and I had

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<v Speaker 6>my phone obviously, and that was fine. And then I

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<v Speaker 6>got home and my daughter said, Mommy, I spoke to

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<v Speaker 6>a really funny man on FaceTime today.

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<v Speaker 7>And I said, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 6>What do you mean he spoke to a really funny

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<v Speaker 6>she gaess when I called my cousins, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>was it your uncle? Was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 6>And I had a look into my shock and horror.

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<v Speaker 6>She had FaceTime that entire last work meeting call and

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<v Speaker 6>the person that she'd FaceTime who answered was the CEO,

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<v Speaker 6>was the BOS and the call went for eight minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was he spending eight minutes of his day talking

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<v Speaker 1>to a sip.

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<v Speaker 6>Rolled To this day, we have not addressed the Ellison

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<v Speaker 6>in the room. I had not discussed this with my bosses.

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<v Speaker 6>My child can't articulate what was said, and it's just

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<v Speaker 6>this mystery, and I'm happy for it to stay there

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<v Speaker 6>because I don't know what happened in that eight minutes,

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<v Speaker 6>but it was truly horrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>That is hilarious also, like why would you just be

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<v Speaker 1>like you got the wrong number, sweety You.

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<v Speaker 4>Always like go get your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it would have come up with your name. Two

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<v Speaker 1>to eight minutes. That's a full converse. That's longer than

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<v Speaker 1>I speak to my own mother on the phone. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a long time. My god, Thanks Mat. We've also

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<v Speaker 1>got back on the line back, who did your kids call?

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<v Speaker 7>My son would have been about three at the time,

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<v Speaker 7>and my husband was working outside and I've just kind

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<v Speaker 7>of needed a shower, stat him on the floor of

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<v Speaker 7>the bathroom, given him my phone, John what I had

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<v Speaker 7>to do so I could have a five minute shower

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<v Speaker 7>in peace. And then my husband comes running through the

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<v Speaker 7>door about five minutes later and snatches the phone out

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<v Speaker 7>of your hand.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 7>It's like everyone's just called me. She's got live on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your three year old went live on Instagram three

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<v Speaker 1>only fans.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't get money from that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely dem No one wants to be shot from

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<v Speaker 1>the ground up. Goddamn.

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<v Speaker 2>No one wants to be shot naked when they don't

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<v Speaker 2>know either.

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<v Speaker 6>I was mortified.

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<v Speaker 7>That is so not a voice call, but yeah, probably

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Beck, that's amazing makes my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>I never want to have.

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<v Speaker 7>Kids find the right buttons at the right time to

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<v Speaker 7>open the up.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh, this is my fear. Like, my kids often

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<v Speaker 1>take my phone and they like record funny videos on

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<v Speaker 1>like the video app or whatever. But my fear is

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<v Speaker 1>is that one day they're gonna either accidentally post something

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<v Speaker 1>to Instagram or they're going to open it up and

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<v Speaker 1>just like have a chat on my Like, I live

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<v Speaker 1>with this fear.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that this is that's warranted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe should stop.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a well named Frankie.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a TikToker thirty five thousand followers.

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<v Speaker 2>She posts a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>She's heavily pregnant, and she's posted a video that's gone

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<v Speaker 3>bonkers started a pretty heated debate online. She recently was

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<v Speaker 3>on a train that was absolutely packed to the brim,

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<v Speaker 3>like people sitting everywhere, people standing in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the train, and she herself was standing. In this video,

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<v Speaker 3>she's sort of filmed herself standing up, heavily pregnant, filmed around,

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<v Speaker 3>shown everyone sitting down, and she just said chivalry for

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<v Speaker 3>pregnant women doesn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I still can't believe not one.

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<v Speaker 3>Person even offered as in even offered to stand up

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<v Speaker 3>so she could sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>Which the ridiculous thing about this is like usually on

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<v Speaker 1>trains there's usually a separate part of seats which are

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<v Speaker 1>for people who are having no poor mobility or needs

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<v Speaker 1>assistance or whatever, Like, there's seats there that people know

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<v Speaker 1>to get up from.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think about when I grew up, it

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<v Speaker 3>was always taught if I was ever in a position

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<v Speaker 3>like that, that you would always stand up and offer

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<v Speaker 3>your seat to elderly, somebody disadvantaged or pregnant women like

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<v Speaker 3>that was just what I learned as a child, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was a really standard thing. But some

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<v Speaker 3>of the comments in this TikTok are so disgusting. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to read you a few Why is your pregnancy

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<v Speaker 3>anyone else's issue? Why is your pregnancy my problem? I

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<v Speaker 3>hate this societal expectation. I mean, it was your choice

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<v Speaker 3>to get pregnant, not theirs. Hey, you wanted a quality,

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<v Speaker 3>you got equality, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>They're American. I'm sorry I really went into that, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>What is with that I'm a mother, I'm more important

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<v Speaker 3>than you, bow down to me attitude and things like I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't care that you're pregnant. I care that I've had

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<v Speaker 4>a long day, my.

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<v Speaker 2>Back end, feet hurt, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is just the theme that was on this TikTok,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was actually disgusting, you know what, Look I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I had something happen to me when I had Lola.

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<v Speaker 1>She was only little and she was in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Christmas time. We were going into the shopping center.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know how like in Big West Fields they

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<v Speaker 1>always have like the pram sections.

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<v Speaker 4>So but that's not even Big Westfields.

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<v Speaker 3>Every shopping center now, even the little ones have like

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<v Speaker 3>parking with prams.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it's parking prams. It's just an area where you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, easy duck in if you're a mom. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Christmas time, it was hell busy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had already had my indicator, and I was waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>go into this parking spot which was right in the prams.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I was waiting to go into the parking spot,

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<v Speaker 1>someone else had pulled up, so they kind of blocked

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<v Speaker 1>me from going in, which meant that this woman took

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of it, and she snuck in and took my space.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't have a kid, took my space and I wound

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<v Speaker 1>down my window and I was like, dude, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a baby in the car. She'd been screaming

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty minutes. We've been driving around this car park,

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<v Speaker 1>and she yelled out the window. It's your choice. You

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<v Speaker 1>decided to have kids.

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<v Speaker 3>That grinds my gears, Like I would have been absolutely furious.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I did. I was like, I wish your mother

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have any kids. And then I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I need to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you know what I think?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not well. I think that the people that are

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<v Speaker 3>making these comments assumption haven't been pregnant or there men

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<v Speaker 3>who's maybe their partners haven't had a baby, or maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't know the impact on the body.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I also think perception around pregnancy has

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<v Speaker 1>changed a little bit. Also, like the perception to kids

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<v Speaker 1>on planes, Like a lot of people have issue is

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<v Speaker 1>now with children flying on planes and the expectation that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe parents expect too much when actually, like other people

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<v Speaker 1>around them shouldn't have to bend to the kids on

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<v Speaker 1>the planes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this happened to my sister recently. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was over visiting my fiance in Italy. A couple of

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago, and my sister was overseas as well. She's

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<v Speaker 3>got a at the time, like six month old baby,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was premy so she's actually a very small

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<v Speaker 3>baby anyway, like a tiny little thing. And my sister

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<v Speaker 3>was on the train, had to travel two and a

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<v Speaker 3>half hours to where we were. The train was packed

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<v Speaker 3>like sardines, right, and so Cherry's standing up holding this

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<v Speaker 3>baby because there's no room to put in a pram

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<v Speaker 3>for two and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 4>Fine, not fine, well no, but Sherry, that's what Sherry said.

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<v Speaker 2>Write her words.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, fine, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I choose to have a baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm happy to stand up. I'm not gonna ask

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<v Speaker 4>anyone to sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But then she had to breastfeed. No one moved, no

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<v Speaker 3>one offered. I've seen the pictures. She's sitting on the

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<v Speaker 3>ground in a corner with all these men standing over

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<v Speaker 3>a bit, not for any other reason than it's sardin's right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just hacked standing over a while she's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>breastfeed a baby and protect it from being like bumped

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<v Speaker 3>by luggage and bumped by people. And she's like people

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<v Speaker 3>were looking at me on the ground in my situation,

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<v Speaker 3>and not one person offered, And I found that's so

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<v Speaker 3>sad and shows like I didn't want them to give

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<v Speaker 3>up my seat for the rest of the trip. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>obviously been standing for an hour. I just wanted somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>safe to breastfeed for ten minutes, and I would have

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<v Speaker 3>gotten back up, but everyone just looked out a blatantly

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<v Speaker 3>nine looked away, And I thought, what kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>world of we living in where there is not one

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<v Speaker 3>person on that train that would see someone in a

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<v Speaker 3>more vulnerable position and offer to help.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's a really, really, such a shitty

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<v Speaker 1>example of people being selfish, really, I mean, And also

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<v Speaker 1>we can sit her and be like, yes, of course

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<v Speaker 1>someone decides to have kids. Guess what someone decided to.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you totally at the end of the way your

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<v Speaker 4>mom to be able to sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mom was pregnant once upon a time too.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I read these reactions and apart from that woman who

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at me in a car park one time, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Christmas and she was just full of holidays here,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like most people are good people, Like I've

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<v Speaker 1>not had experiences where people haven't been helpful. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>loads of experiences where I couldn't get a pram up

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs and someone stop and help me carry the

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<v Speaker 1>pram or carry things because I had too much. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, overwhelmingly, my experiences have been good, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really sad to me to hear it specifically

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<v Speaker 1>Sherry who's a new mum who experienced something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's just really shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that's the difference, right, they're the quick

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<v Speaker 3>little things that not really inconvenient to anyone. But people

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<v Speaker 3>have this really weird attachment to their seats when it

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<v Speaker 3>involves giving up.

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<v Speaker 4>A seat for something.

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<v Speaker 3>But you guys, remember, if you're listening right now, a

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<v Speaker 3>woman carrying baby's like they're running a marathon every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>So throw them a bone, give them a.

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<v Speaker 1>Seat, britt. I feel like being a parent it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard. Sometimes it's really hard, actually, and that's it

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<v Speaker 1>from us today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why the show we have discovered it is indeed hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it comes part and parcel that sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>your kids are going to do stuff that embarrasses you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and you just got to take it on

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<v Speaker 1>the chin like a champion because they don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they do. Sometimes maybe it's malicious, but

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<v Speaker 1>other times I think it's really innocent and they just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that what they've said or what they've done

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of not appropriate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, adults, Tan, It's like when you see those videos

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<v Speaker 3>go around where like the little kid goes to school

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<v Speaker 3>and tells everyone that they heard mommy and daddy screaming

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<v Speaker 3>in the room in the night, Like you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>they get we were playing gorillas, Yeah, we're playing wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, look, I mean we've all got our own

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<v Speaker 1>version of that with our own kids. But I went

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<v Speaker 1>in to pick up Mally May. She's five, she's in kindergarten.

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<v Speaker 1>I went in to pick her up from school the

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<v Speaker 1>other day and she goes to after school care. So

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<v Speaker 1>I walked into after school care and there's all these lovely,

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<v Speaker 1>really young, beautiful young girls who like work in the

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<v Speaker 1>after school care center, right, got it, And they're gorgeous

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<v Speaker 1>and they take such good care of the kids. Walk

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<v Speaker 1>in and the girl who's like the main director, she

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<v Speaker 1>just starts kickling and I was like, oh, nice to

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<v Speaker 1>see you too, darling, and she goes, I've got something

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<v Speaker 1>for you She's like, Marley's been drawing some pictures cute,

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<v Speaker 1>and let me tell you, like, my kids draw a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand pictures. We have draws and draws and draws full

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<v Speaker 1>of drawings that we keep and keep them all. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't keep them all. I only keep the good ones.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had to start culling, like the manet. Yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell her. I'll say that one's not good enough to keep.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, I wanted to put this aside

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<v Speaker 1>for you. She's like, because I think you'd really like

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<v Speaker 1>to keep this one. And I walk in and I

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<v Speaker 1>get this picture, and I just want to show you

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<v Speaker 1>what it's of, Britt, because I think she's captured me

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<v Speaker 1>in my raw and beautiful essence.

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<v Speaker 2>We can say it's raw.

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<v Speaker 1>So marleis she's started to revert to drawing me pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>now because she's really excited about being a big sister.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so thrilled she got so she drew a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of me and my pregnant belly, and she drew the

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<v Speaker 1>baby inside the belly. It's kind of like a cross

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<v Speaker 1>between an X ray because you can see inside me,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can also see X ray and pawn. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>an X ray and just a really graphic detail photo.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see inside me, but you can also see

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<v Speaker 1>the outside of me, and I'm completely naked. She has

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>drawn tubes with nipples, very big nipples. We all understand why.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's also drawn me with a fool bush. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So then what happened is she drew this and some

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<v Speaker 1>of her friends were confused. They were like, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, mummy's lazy. So then it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter had a full on debrief with all her

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<v Speaker 1>friends about whether their parents or their mummies do or

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<v Speaker 1>don't have hair on their downstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>So funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I picked Marley up.

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<v Speaker 2>Did anyone else kids draw nudes?

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<v Speaker 1>No one else drew a nude, but I know what

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<v Speaker 1>every other mum's downstairs looks like. So three kids came

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<v Speaker 1>up to me and they were like, Marley told us

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<v Speaker 1>that you've got hair down there, My mummy doesn't. My

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<v Speaker 1>mummy doesn't have any hair.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to put that nut.

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<v Speaker 4>WhatsApp group chat, the school group chat are so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Be like, hey, there is what's everyone doing downstairs?

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<v Speaker 1>Just like throw it in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, surely, hey, Sharon.

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<v Speaker 1>What lazy you go to So I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do with this picture?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I put it on the fridge? It's really a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful way for me to take it.

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<v Speaker 5>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 4>There somewhere prices a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit lazier, right, it's quite hard when you're pregnant. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to reach down there. Let it go, not it anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a bit of like hyperbole here or I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's going on, but that's yeah, you need to

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<v Speaker 3>get that tended to.

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<v Speaker 4>I reckon, I could get my gardener to.

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<v Speaker 1>Come over, get a wik whack out anyway, what like

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<v Speaker 1>a whipper snipper, not a wik whacker. I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about the same thing.