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Speaker 2: Hi guys, and.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura,
Speaker 1: I'm Brittany, and this is our radio show where we
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Speaker 1: We want to listen to the radio though, Yeah, because
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Speaker 3: Well, because we're on radio, and that's also important.
Speaker 1: I love this bit because we get to package up
Speaker 1: the ones that we like doing the best, like little
Speaker 1: bits and pieces and the stories that we don't share
Speaker 1: in the pod that are great. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And we had an important chat this week that I liked,
Speaker 3: but about my sister Sherry and experience that she had
Speaker 3: been a new mum breastfeeding on a train.
Speaker 4: And it was sort of off the back.
Speaker 3: Of a TikToker who was posting about her experience being
Speaker 3: heavily pregnant on a pack train and the idea of
Speaker 3: chivalry being dead and no one offering their seats anymore
Speaker 3: for pregnant women, and it is a very interesting discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do think like off the back. The
Speaker 1: more I thought about it, And I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: because I'm pregnant. I don't think that I personally have
Speaker 1: had any negative experiences, but I think that the pendulum
Speaker 1: kind of was in one direction, Like there was a
Speaker 1: lot of support and chivalry around women being pregnant and
Speaker 1: being helpful, and now I think that we are sort
Speaker 1: of as a society, we're a little bit more closed
Speaker 1: off to being helpful to people. And when you were
Speaker 1: talking about what Sherry experienced, it's a very sad outcome.
Speaker 1: But I also am not particularly surprised by it. Put
Speaker 1: it that way, Yeah, well I.
Speaker 4: Was surprised by it.
Speaker 3: I didn't think we'd gone down the Google like that anyway,
Speaker 3: that's all coming on.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I also shared a story on the show
Speaker 1: about something that Marley overshared at school about me. So
Speaker 1: I had a very funny and interesting conversation with one
Speaker 1: of the after school care teachers about a particular picture
Speaker 1: that Marley had drawn, which was very generous and very kind.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, it is not going on
Speaker 1: the fridge that one.
Speaker 3: It's funny because you think that, like the overshare in
Speaker 3: the situation is going to be you being my national
Speaker 3: radio podcasting.
Speaker 4: But she trumped you.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I also think I've deserved this
Speaker 1: because I've told so many stories about my kids that
Speaker 1: she was just like, fuck, mum, you know what, I've
Speaker 1: got one up on you ll not that she knows.
Speaker 2: She doesn't listen to the pod.
Speaker 1: Do you know what she knows? But she knows that
Speaker 1: I know the limit. Mostly I think I know the limit.
Speaker 4: I think you've given a lot of credit.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. There is an etiquette when it
Speaker 1: comes to Facebook marketplace right, Like it's kind of an
Speaker 1: unspoken etiquette about how you interact with the buyer and
Speaker 1: the seller and what you do when you've got to
Speaker 1: pick the thing up from their house and X y Z,
Speaker 1: Like I think most people know how to be when
Speaker 1: it comes to bask like a place.
Speaker 3: It's pretty annoying though, like how many conversations you have
Speaker 3: about how much something is? Can you do a better price?
Speaker 3: You talk to them for like where are you when's
Speaker 3: a good time? Talked to them for three days about
Speaker 3: picking up something for twenty bucks and then they're like
Speaker 3: not and then they go then they got yeah, and
Speaker 3: you're like just wasting my life.
Speaker 1: We were talking about funny experiences that we'd had off
Speaker 1: the back of it, because everyone's had like a bit
Speaker 1: of a cooked experience if you've used it enough times.
Speaker 1: I had something happened recently where I wasn't even selling it.
Speaker 1: I was giving away a coffee table. I was like,
Speaker 1: just someone come and take this coffee table off my hands.
Speaker 1: And this man came into my house. I was there
Speaker 1: with the kids, Matt wasn't home. He comes into the house.
Speaker 1: Forty five minutes later, he is still in my house
Speaker 1: having a chat. Lovely English guy. He's moving to Australia.
Speaker 1: Just give me his life story. Maybe he's trying to
Speaker 1: make some new friends. Maybe he was talking about his wife.
Speaker 1: His wife was having a baby. Then he wanted to
Speaker 1: know about the dog. And I was like, please just
Speaker 1: take the coffee table and get out of my house.
Speaker 2: I'll pay you to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, I'll give you the twenty dollars
Speaker 1: to lead an. I had to pretend like I needed
Speaker 1: to go and have a shower and that the kids
Speaker 1: need a nat. My kid's full. She doesn't n ask.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'll watch the kids, want you shall But
Speaker 1: there was one story that came up producer Grace here
Speaker 1: she is, I don't think that anyone could top the
Speaker 1: Facebook marketplace story that you had. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of trust that was put in you. Yes there was.
Speaker 5: But my wife, Diana, she is the sort of person
Speaker 5: that gets really into hobbies and just loves buying everything
Speaker 5: before she's even had to go at it. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago she was like, I want
Speaker 5: to get really into surfing. Has never surfed in her life,
Speaker 5: and she was like, this is my thing now. So
Speaker 5: he organized this meet up to get this surfboard off
Speaker 5: Facebook marketplace. The guy was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: actually out for the day, but I'm going to pop
Speaker 5: it next to this table blah blah blah in the garage.
Speaker 1: And I was like, great, We're sweet. We drove an
Speaker 1: hour and a half there. How much was he charging
Speaker 1: for us surfboard in the garage?
Speaker 2: Down south? Down south?
Speaker 1: But it was a good price, good price, great.
Speaker 5: Surfboard looked good for beginners. We're like, were set and
Speaker 5: I was like, I will indulge you this once, but
Speaker 5: this will be the last surfboard you're buying anyway. So
Speaker 5: we get there, find the surfboard exactly where he said,
Speaker 5: next to the table. And then we're like, okay, it's
Speaker 5: not going to fit in the car. We're going to
Speaker 5: have to rope it to the roof. So we're in
Speaker 5: the kind of mentality of if he can't tie knots
Speaker 5: tie lots, so we have like.
Speaker 2: S that's the saying.
Speaker 5: So we've tied it all down. We're driving back on
Speaker 5: the freeway. We're like, we've nailed this, but then the
Speaker 5: surfboard starts flapping.
Speaker 1: Yep, the wind that gets under the surfboard on the
Speaker 1: roof of your car. We're about to lose this surfboard
Speaker 1: that we've just purchased. My wife's new hobby, who's.
Speaker 5: So excited about it. It's flapping, it's flapping, and we're
Speaker 5: like heart thumping. You can't even pull over because it's
Speaker 5: like a bit on a highway. So we get home
Speaker 5: and we just made it. There's like ropes flying everywhere,
Speaker 5: and we're like, this is so dangerous. I cannot believe
Speaker 5: that we've made it back with this surfboard. Take a
Speaker 5: picture of it to send it to the guy and go,
Speaker 5: thank you so much.
Speaker 2: We just made it.
Speaker 3: A bit.
Speaker 2: Know where this is going. He sent back, that's not
Speaker 2: my surfboard. He just stole some. We accidentally we went
Speaker 2: into the garage.
Speaker 5: It was exactly where he said, but it was his
Speaker 5: roommate's surfboard.
Speaker 1: Stole someone's surfboard, so it was the right I thought
Speaker 1: you'd into the wrong house.
Speaker 5: Yes, no, it was the roommate's surfboard, much fancier than
Speaker 5: the one.
Speaker 2: We were picking up.
Speaker 5: We were like, we've got that.
Speaker 2: You have to drive it back. Had to drive all
Speaker 2: the way back.
Speaker 5: We learned how to tie nots the second time around,
Speaker 5: so at least the surfboard.
Speaker 1: Stayed attached to the car. I'm just imagining you're getting
Speaker 1: this surfboard back. It's so bad enoughter being tired to
Speaker 1: a couple of roof racksy like, there it is, give
Speaker 1: me the other one. It's a trade up.
Speaker 2: When I stole that dog from the person's car.
Speaker 1: From Memphs, you thought we were saving it.
Speaker 2: I thought it was.
Speaker 3: Lost and I took it from the lawn and I
Speaker 3: was like, don't worry, sweet angel, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna save you. I had to flick two days.
Speaker 1: It turns out.
Speaker 3: When I finally contacted the owner, he was so grateful.
Speaker 3: He was like, thank you so much for being worried sick,
Speaker 3: and I was like, tell me where you live or
Speaker 3: drop it back. He gave me his address and I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 4: Pretty sure that's where I took it from.
Speaker 3: And I was like, you're welcome, Like it's crazy out there,
Speaker 3: be careful.
Speaker 2: Took the dog back, mortified.
Speaker 1: So good grace. When you first held that story, I
Speaker 1: thought you'd gone into the wrong house, but you didn't
Speaker 1: have a choice returning it since you so evidently took
Speaker 1: the wrong one. Now there is debate that's erupting online
Speaker 1: at the moment, and off the back of doing my
Speaker 1: gender reveal on this show only a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: I feel like the timing is quite interesting.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I understand that for some couples, gender disappointment is a
Speaker 1: very very real thing, and wanting to be able to
Speaker 1: choose whether you have a girl or a boy in
Speaker 1: some instances ideally would be something that some parents would
Speaker 1: like to explore. I know that when Matt found out
Speaker 1: that he was having my husband a third baby girl,
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of him that had a
Speaker 1: moment of sadness, and we spoke about it on the show.
Speaker 1: He's thrilled to be a dad to another girl. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I think he always expected that
Speaker 1: he would also be a dad to a boy and
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen for him now unless he
Speaker 1: does it with another woman at some point down the track.
Speaker 1: But the reason why we're talking about this is because
Speaker 1: there's a content creator. Her name is Caitlin Bailey. She's
Speaker 1: a single mum. She's got three kids, two of them
Speaker 1: are boys, and she has one girl now. She's just
Speaker 1: paid forty five thousand dollars to go overseas and do
Speaker 1: gender selection on an IVF treatment where you can choose
Speaker 1: the gender of your unborn child. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: moral debates surrounding this because it's something that's currently still
Speaker 1: illegal in Australia.
Speaker 3: Yea, And I think she was maybe a bit taken
Speaker 3: aback about the pushback against it because she was pretty
Speaker 3: open about her story talking about it, and I think
Speaker 3: that the public's response has quite shocked her.
Speaker 2: She has said, if.
Speaker 3: We've got the technology that allows us to do this
Speaker 3: and it's not hurting anybody, I don't understand why it's
Speaker 3: not an option here in Australia because sex selection of
Speaker 3: your embryos is illegal in Australia.
Speaker 4: It's not an option. You can't do it.
Speaker 3: You absolutely cannot choose to test which sex you want
Speaker 3: and to implant it. But there are a lot of
Speaker 3: countries overseas America you can do it.
Speaker 4: So this is why she spend forty five thousand dollars to.
Speaker 2: Go and do it.
Speaker 4: She feels like she needs to balance her family.
Speaker 3: But the idea of her saying I don't understand why
Speaker 3: it can't be done here, I do think she hasn't
Speaker 3: thought about the broader issues surrounding this. And there have
Speaker 3: been a few people off the back of this debate
Speaker 3: that have.
Speaker 2: Made some really good points.
Speaker 3: There's no guarantee that you might have a child a
Speaker 3: signed female at birth who later identifies as trade totally,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean there's other things in this as well. Obviously,
Speaker 1: in some cultures having a boy is more desirable, so
Speaker 1: it might create like an unequal gender population which would
Speaker 1: cause issues down the track. But also I mean, as
Speaker 1: a mum of two little girls and I'm now having
Speaker 1: a third little girl, even if I had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to select the gender of my children, I wouldn't And
Speaker 1: the reason for that is is because I feel as
Speaker 1: though it puts so much pressure on that child to
Speaker 1: be the specific gender that you wanted. It puts so
Speaker 1: much pressure on whatever you thought that relationship was going
Speaker 1: to be or that dynamic was going to be. Like
Speaker 1: just because you have a little boy, doesn't mean they're
Speaker 1: going to be into little boy things, doesn't mean they're
Speaker 1: going to be a little quote unquote traditional little boy,
Speaker 1: and vice versa. The same for a girl. And I
Speaker 1: guess I come to it now as a mum of
Speaker 1: two girls, both of which are completely different children, Like
Speaker 1: both my girls are so so different, and so I
Speaker 1: feel as though I've had two different experiences of motherhood
Speaker 1: with them individually, because there's such their own, little unique
Speaker 1: people that I don't feel as though I'm missing out
Speaker 1: on something by not having a boy. I guess the
Speaker 1: thing is in our in all cultures, really, gender becomes
Speaker 1: something that people are so fixated on, and this idea
Speaker 1: of having a balanced family, to think that you have
Speaker 1: two little boys at home and a little girl at home,
Speaker 1: that that's something you can't be happy with because you
Speaker 1: don't have a balance, Like families aren't perfect. And I
Speaker 1: kind of hate the way that the terminology is being
Speaker 1: built around this.
Speaker 4: To be honest, it doesn't bother me that she's done it.
Speaker 3: What else I found interesting is off the back of that,
Speaker 3: there's also discussions about the fact that a lot of
Speaker 3: people think you shouldn't genetically test your embryos. They think
Speaker 3: that that well, they think that even that comes down
Speaker 3: to like a type of selection, Whereas I will disagree
Speaker 3: with that. I have my own embryos that I have
Speaker 3: genetically tested, and there's a reason for it. I have
Speaker 3: had embryos that had things wrong with them and couldn't
Speaker 3: and didn't survive, and if they were implanted in me
Speaker 3: there would have been a danger to us both and
Speaker 3: a high risk of miscarriage. So these kind of things,
Speaker 3: genetically testing is just doing the best thing for mother
Speaker 3: and child in the future and to reduce help reduce
Speaker 3: things like a risk of miscarriage.
Speaker 4: So I would like fight that argument.
Speaker 1: I agree, but I think these are two different things.
Speaker 1: Genetic testing is something that happens during pregnancy anyway. You know,
Speaker 1: you have your I just had my twenty one week
Speaker 1: morphology scans, you know, so I'm going to find out
Speaker 1: if everything's tracking long fine, you have your NIPT scan
Speaker 1: to make sure that your blood works and everything's fine.
Speaker 1: And that's so that mums can have a greater control
Speaker 1: over the life that they're going to live and also
Speaker 1: over the quality of life that that child's going to have.
Speaker 1: But this conversation around gender and choosing a gender, that's
Speaker 1: not a disorder, that's not a chromosomal abnormality. That's not
Speaker 1: something that's where the baby's not developing in the way
Speaker 1: that it should.
Speaker 4: It's a family aesthetic choice.
Speaker 1: It's an aesthetic yeah, or it's an experience. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I'm not outraged by it. I don't care
Speaker 1: enough to be like jumping on the pylon of this.
Speaker 1: I just think for me, if I had the choice,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't explore it. I think it's a lot of
Speaker 1: need to pay for something that's very specific that you
Speaker 1: don't have control over.
Speaker 3: Anyway, there's a video that came up on my feed
Speaker 3: that had been absolutely hysterics. I do want to preface
Speaker 3: this by saying I believed it at the start. I
Speaker 3: had to go and do a deep dive to find
Speaker 3: out it was a print call. But it's this five
Speaker 3: year old Irish girl that calls the demolition company in
Speaker 3: Ireland to knock a school down.
Speaker 2: Have a listen to this.
Speaker 5: Hello, how are you?
Speaker 1: My name's Becky.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have a proposal for you.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Are you the demolition man, Yes, he's the top boss.
Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: What's okay?
Speaker 5: Hello?
Speaker 1: I want you to help me destroy my school.
Speaker 5: Do you want to blow up?
Speaker 1: Couldn't blow it up?
Speaker 3: Or knock it down?
Speaker 4: Whatever, whatever you want done, and you just make.
Speaker 1: Sure that they're all in the building when you.
Speaker 4: Knock it down, you put all the names on us.
Speaker 5: I give you a.
Speaker 3: Brilliant It's like a ten minute call where she's saying, like,
Speaker 3: my teachers, may we do homework?
Speaker 1: Knocked the school down.
Speaker 3: The demolition companies in like absolute hysterics.
Speaker 2: But it made me think, have your kids ever done this.
Speaker 4: Where they've called someone accidentally or they've.
Speaker 1: Got I mean, my kids are not like they're not
Speaker 1: that age, Like they're not at an age where they
Speaker 1: can live. Yeah, but five is not old enough to
Speaker 1: be like, do you know what, I'm gonna call a
Speaker 1: demolition company and get them to knock the school down.
Speaker 1: I also don't thinks it, so I don't they're they're
Speaker 1: filled with that much hatred. But look, I do think
Speaker 1: their kids do things with phones and they'll they'll call people,
Speaker 1: but they don't always understand the repercussions of what they're doing.
Speaker 1: We had one instance about six months ago, so Marley
Speaker 1: would have just been five or five and a half,
Speaker 1: and she was with her cousins and they were playing
Speaker 1: on a payphone. Her cousins are all similar age, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what are they doing? And I could
Speaker 1: see that they were laughing really hard about it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't like that. I walked
Speaker 1: over and they just called Triple zero and someone had
Speaker 1: answered the phone, and I obviously I gave them the
Speaker 1: full schooling on why that was so problematic. And she
Speaker 1: was so upset because she didn't really understand what it
Speaker 1: was that she'd done, Like she had no comprehension about
Speaker 1: the magnitude of why that's a problem you funny, No,
Speaker 1: she literally they just pressed some buttons and then someone
Speaker 1: answered it and they you know, and she was like,
Speaker 1: it's the police, Like she didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 1: But like I remember being a kid and doing prank
Speaker 1: calls and thinking I was so funny. I'd call my
Speaker 1: neighbor I'd pretend to be someone really confused OLGA.
Speaker 4: At the time, prank calls gave mem anxiety.
Speaker 3: I couldn't do them. I couldn't even do a knock
Speaker 3: and run. I was like a pretty goodie two show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where one of those radio shows that can't do
Speaker 1: prank calls because everybody freaks out and freezes up. No,
Speaker 1: it's true. Well, look, actually we've got some calls coming through.
Speaker 1: Speaking of nat, who did your kids call?
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness. It was the most traumatic experience with.
Speaker 5: My adult life.
Speaker 6: I think had at the time six and a half
Speaker 6: year old daughter, and you know hashtag mom life. I
Speaker 6: hadn't been in the working game for a while, and
Speaker 6: I finally got a gig for this new job, and
Speaker 6: the first thing they asked me to do was a
Speaker 6: FaceTime call with about seven or eight other people, the
Speaker 6: HR team, the CEOs, the bosses, like, there's some well
Speaker 6: known people here in the mix who are like in
Speaker 6: the spotlight. I'll just say that I want to give
Speaker 6: their names up. But I had the FaceTime call. Everything
Speaker 6: was great, And then later that day I actually went
Speaker 6: out and left the kid at home with her dad,
Speaker 6: and she asked if she could FaceTime all of her
Speaker 6: cousins and I said, not a problem. It's the group call,
Speaker 6: the last group call on the iPad, and I had
Speaker 6: my phone obviously, and that was fine. And then I
Speaker 6: got home and my daughter said, Mommy, I spoke to
Speaker 6: a really funny man on FaceTime today.
Speaker 7: And I said, what do you mean?
Speaker 6: What do you mean he spoke to a really funny
Speaker 6: she gaess when I called my cousins, and I was like,
Speaker 6: was it your uncle? Was it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 6: And I had a look into my shock and horror.
Speaker 6: She had FaceTime that entire last work meeting call and
Speaker 6: the person that she'd FaceTime who answered was the CEO,
Speaker 6: was the BOS and the call went for eight minutes.
Speaker 1: Why was he spending eight minutes of his day talking
Speaker 1: to a sip.
Speaker 6: Rolled To this day, we have not addressed the Ellison
Speaker 6: in the room. I had not discussed this with my bosses.
Speaker 6: My child can't articulate what was said, and it's just
Speaker 6: this mystery, and I'm happy for it to stay there
Speaker 6: because I don't know what happened in that eight minutes,
Speaker 6: but it was truly horrifying.
Speaker 1: That is hilarious also, like why would you just be
Speaker 1: like you got the wrong number, sweety You.
Speaker 4: Always like go get your mom.
Speaker 1: Because it would have come up with your name. Two
Speaker 1: to eight minutes. That's a full converse. That's longer than
Speaker 1: I speak to my own mother on the phone. Like,
Speaker 1: that's a long time. My god, Thanks Mat. We've also
Speaker 1: got back on the line back, who did your kids call?
Speaker 7: My son would have been about three at the time,
Speaker 7: and my husband was working outside and I've just kind
Speaker 7: of needed a shower, stat him on the floor of
Speaker 7: the bathroom, given him my phone, John what I had
Speaker 7: to do so I could have a five minute shower
Speaker 7: in peace. And then my husband comes running through the
Speaker 7: door about five minutes later and snatches the phone out
Speaker 7: of your hand.
Speaker 6: I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 7: It's like everyone's just called me. She's got live on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your three year old went live on Instagram three
Speaker 1: only fans.
Speaker 3: You didn't get money from that.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely dem No one wants to be shot from
Speaker 1: the ground up. Goddamn.
Speaker 2: No one wants to be shot naked when they don't
Speaker 2: know either.
Speaker 6: I was mortified.
Speaker 7: That is so not a voice call, but yeah, probably
Speaker 7: a little bit worse.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Beck, that's amazing makes my favorite.
Speaker 2: I never want to have.
Speaker 7: Kids find the right buttons at the right time to
Speaker 7: open the up.
Speaker 1: And oh, this is my fear. Like, my kids often
Speaker 1: take my phone and they like record funny videos on
Speaker 1: like the video app or whatever. But my fear is
Speaker 1: is that one day they're gonna either accidentally post something
Speaker 1: to Instagram or they're going to open it up and
Speaker 1: just like have a chat on my Like, I live
Speaker 1: with this fear.
Speaker 2: I think that this is that's warranted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe should stop.
Speaker 3: There's a well named Frankie.
Speaker 4: She's a TikToker thirty five thousand followers.
Speaker 2: She posts a lot.
Speaker 3: She's heavily pregnant, and she's posted a video that's gone
Speaker 3: bonkers started a pretty heated debate online. She recently was
Speaker 3: on a train that was absolutely packed to the brim,
Speaker 3: like people sitting everywhere, people standing in the middle of
Speaker 3: the train, and she herself was standing. In this video,
Speaker 3: she's sort of filmed herself standing up, heavily pregnant, filmed around,
Speaker 3: shown everyone sitting down, and she just said chivalry for
Speaker 3: pregnant women doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 4: I still can't believe not one.
Speaker 3: Person even offered as in even offered to stand up
Speaker 3: so she could sit down.
Speaker 1: Which the ridiculous thing about this is like usually on
Speaker 1: trains there's usually a separate part of seats which are
Speaker 1: for people who are having no poor mobility or needs
Speaker 1: assistance or whatever, Like, there's seats there that people know
Speaker 1: to get up from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think about when I grew up, it
Speaker 3: was always taught if I was ever in a position
Speaker 3: like that, that you would always stand up and offer
Speaker 3: your seat to elderly, somebody disadvantaged or pregnant women like
Speaker 3: that was just what I learned as a child, and
Speaker 3: I thought that was a really standard thing. But some
Speaker 3: of the comments in this TikTok are so disgusting. I
Speaker 3: want to read you a few Why is your pregnancy
Speaker 3: anyone else's issue? Why is your pregnancy my problem? I
Speaker 3: hate this societal expectation. I mean, it was your choice
Speaker 3: to get pregnant, not theirs. Hey, you wanted a quality,
Speaker 3: you got equality, y'all.
Speaker 4: They're American. I'm sorry I really went into that, y'all.
Speaker 3: What is with that I'm a mother, I'm more important
Speaker 3: than you, bow down to me attitude and things like I.
Speaker 4: Don't care that you're pregnant. I care that I've had
Speaker 4: a long day, my.
Speaker 2: Back end, feet hurt, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Like this is just the theme that was on this TikTok,
Speaker 3: and I was actually disgusting, you know what, Look I mean,
Speaker 3: I had something happen to me when I had Lola.
Speaker 1: She was only little and she was in the car.
Speaker 1: It was Christmas time. We were going into the shopping center.
Speaker 1: And you know how like in Big West Fields they
Speaker 1: always have like the pram sections.
Speaker 4: So but that's not even Big Westfields.
Speaker 3: Every shopping center now, even the little ones have like
Speaker 3: parking with prams.
Speaker 1: Yes it's parking prams. It's just an area where you can,
Speaker 1: you know, easy duck in if you're a mom. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it was Christmas time, it was hell busy, and I
Speaker 1: had already had my indicator, and I was waiting to
Speaker 1: go into this parking spot which was right in the prams.
Speaker 1: And as I was waiting to go into the parking spot,
Speaker 1: someone else had pulled up, so they kind of blocked
Speaker 1: me from going in, which meant that this woman took
Speaker 1: advantage of it, and she snuck in and took my space.
Speaker 1: Didn't have a kid, took my space and I wound
Speaker 1: down my window and I was like, dude, come on,
Speaker 1: I've got a baby in the car. She'd been screaming
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes. We've been driving around this car park,
Speaker 1: and she yelled out the window. It's your choice. You
Speaker 1: decided to have kids.
Speaker 3: That grinds my gears, Like I would have been absolutely furious.
Speaker 1: Oh I did. I was like, I wish your mother
Speaker 1: didn't have any kids. And then I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I need to stop.
Speaker 2: But do you know what I think?
Speaker 3: I'm not well. I think that the people that are
Speaker 3: making these comments assumption haven't been pregnant or there men
Speaker 3: who's maybe their partners haven't had a baby, or maybe.
Speaker 4: They don't know the impact on the body.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I also think perception around pregnancy has
Speaker 1: changed a little bit. Also, like the perception to kids
Speaker 1: on planes, Like a lot of people have issue is
Speaker 1: now with children flying on planes and the expectation that
Speaker 1: maybe parents expect too much when actually, like other people
Speaker 1: around them shouldn't have to bend to the kids on
Speaker 1: the planes.
Speaker 3: You know, this happened to my sister recently. So I
Speaker 3: was over visiting my fiance in Italy. A couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago, and my sister was overseas as well. She's
Speaker 3: got a at the time, like six month old baby,
Speaker 3: and she was premy so she's actually a very small
Speaker 3: baby anyway, like a tiny little thing. And my sister
Speaker 3: was on the train, had to travel two and a
Speaker 3: half hours to where we were. The train was packed
Speaker 3: like sardines, right, and so Cherry's standing up holding this
Speaker 3: baby because there's no room to put in a pram
Speaker 3: for two and a half hours.
Speaker 4: Fine, not fine, well no, but Sherry, that's what Sherry said.
Speaker 2: Write her words.
Speaker 4: She's like, fine, I get it.
Speaker 2: Did I choose to have a baby.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm happy to stand up. I'm not gonna ask
Speaker 4: anyone to sit down.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: But then she had to breastfeed. No one moved, no
Speaker 3: one offered. I've seen the pictures. She's sitting on the
Speaker 3: ground in a corner with all these men standing over
Speaker 3: a bit, not for any other reason than it's sardin's right.
Speaker 3: It's just hacked standing over a while she's trying to
Speaker 3: breastfeed a baby and protect it from being like bumped
Speaker 3: by luggage and bumped by people. And she's like people
Speaker 3: were looking at me on the ground in my situation,
Speaker 3: and not one person offered, And I found that's so
Speaker 3: sad and shows like I didn't want them to give
Speaker 3: up my seat for the rest of the trip. I'd
Speaker 3: obviously been standing for an hour. I just wanted somewhere
Speaker 3: safe to breastfeed for ten minutes, and I would have
Speaker 3: gotten back up, but everyone just looked out a blatantly
Speaker 3: nine looked away, And I thought, what kind of a
Speaker 3: world of we living in where there is not one
Speaker 3: person on that train that would see someone in a
Speaker 3: more vulnerable position and offer to help.
Speaker 1: I think that that's a really, really, such a shitty
Speaker 1: example of people being selfish, really, I mean, And also
Speaker 1: we can sit her and be like, yes, of course
Speaker 1: someone decides to have kids. Guess what someone decided to.
Speaker 4: Have you totally at the end of the way your
Speaker 4: mom to be able to sit down.
Speaker 1: Your mom was pregnant once upon a time too.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I read these reactions and apart from that woman who
Speaker 1: yelled at me in a car park one time, it
Speaker 1: was Christmas and she was just full of holidays here,
Speaker 1: I feel like most people are good people, Like I've
Speaker 1: not had experiences where people haven't been helpful. I've had
Speaker 1: loads of experiences where I couldn't get a pram up
Speaker 1: the stairs and someone stop and help me carry the
Speaker 1: pram or carry things because I had too much. Like
Speaker 1: I would say, overwhelmingly, my experiences have been good, and
Speaker 1: so it's really sad to me to hear it specifically
Speaker 1: Sherry who's a new mum who experienced something like that,
Speaker 1: because that's just really shit.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's the difference, right, they're the quick
Speaker 3: little things that not really inconvenient to anyone. But people
Speaker 3: have this really weird attachment to their seats when it
Speaker 3: involves giving up.
Speaker 4: A seat for something.
Speaker 3: But you guys, remember, if you're listening right now, a
Speaker 3: woman carrying baby's like they're running a marathon every single day.
Speaker 2: So throw them a bone, give them a.
Speaker 1: Seat, britt. I feel like being a parent it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard. Sometimes it's really hard, actually, and that's it
Speaker 1: from us today.
Speaker 2: That's why the show we have discovered it is indeed hot.
Speaker 1: I feel like it comes part and parcel that sometimes
Speaker 1: your kids are going to do stuff that embarrasses you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you just got to take it on
Speaker 1: the chin like a champion because they don't really know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they do. Sometimes maybe it's malicious, but
Speaker 1: other times I think it's really innocent and they just
Speaker 1: don't know that what they've said or what they've done
Speaker 1: is kind of not appropriate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, adults, Tan, It's like when you see those videos
Speaker 3: go around where like the little kid goes to school
Speaker 3: and tells everyone that they heard mommy and daddy screaming
Speaker 3: in the room in the night, Like you know, when
Speaker 3: they get we were playing gorillas, Yeah, we're playing wrestling.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, look, I mean we've all got our own
Speaker 1: version of that with our own kids. But I went
Speaker 1: in to pick up Mally May. She's five, she's in kindergarten.
Speaker 1: I went in to pick her up from school the
Speaker 1: other day and she goes to after school care. So
Speaker 1: I walked into after school care and there's all these lovely,
Speaker 1: really young, beautiful young girls who like work in the
Speaker 1: after school care center, right, got it, And they're gorgeous
Speaker 1: and they take such good care of the kids. Walk
Speaker 1: in and the girl who's like the main director, she
Speaker 1: just starts kickling and I was like, oh, nice to
Speaker 1: see you too, darling, and she goes, I've got something
Speaker 1: for you She's like, Marley's been drawing some pictures cute,
Speaker 1: and let me tell you, like, my kids draw a
Speaker 1: thousand pictures. We have draws and draws and draws full
Speaker 1: of drawings that we keep and keep them all. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I don't keep them all. I only keep the good ones.
Speaker 1: We've had to start culling, like the manet. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: tell her. I'll say that one's not good enough to keep.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I wanted to put this aside
Speaker 1: for you. She's like, because I think you'd really like
Speaker 1: to keep this one. And I walk in and I
Speaker 1: get this picture, and I just want to show you
Speaker 1: what it's of, Britt, because I think she's captured me
Speaker 1: in my raw and beautiful essence.
Speaker 2: We can say it's raw.
Speaker 1: So marleis she's started to revert to drawing me pregnant
Speaker 1: now because she's really excited about being a big sister.
Speaker 1: She's so thrilled she got so she drew a picture
Speaker 1: of me and my pregnant belly, and she drew the
Speaker 1: baby inside the belly. It's kind of like a cross
Speaker 1: between an X ray because you can see inside me,
Speaker 1: but you can also see X ray and pawn. Well,
Speaker 1: an X ray and just a really graphic detail photo.
Speaker 1: You can see inside me, but you can also see
Speaker 1: the outside of me, and I'm completely naked. She has
Speaker 1: drawn tubes with nipples, very big nipples. We all understand why.
Speaker 1: And she's also drawn me with a fool bush. Okay,
Speaker 1: So then what happened is she drew this and some
Speaker 1: of her friends were confused. They were like, what's going
Speaker 1: on here, mummy's lazy. So then it turns out that
Speaker 1: my daughter had a full on debrief with all her
Speaker 1: friends about whether their parents or their mummies do or
Speaker 1: don't have hair on their downstairs.
Speaker 2: So funny.
Speaker 1: So when I picked Marley up.
Speaker 2: Did anyone else kids draw nudes?
Speaker 1: No one else drew a nude, but I know what
Speaker 1: every other mum's downstairs looks like. So three kids came
Speaker 1: up to me and they were like, Marley told us
Speaker 1: that you've got hair down there, My mummy doesn't. My
Speaker 1: mummy doesn't have any hair.
Speaker 2: You need to put that nut.
Speaker 4: WhatsApp group chat, the school group chat are so funny.
Speaker 2: Be like, hey, there is what's everyone doing downstairs?
Speaker 1: Just like throw it in there.
Speaker 2: I was like, surely, hey, Sharon.
Speaker 1: What lazy you go to So I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do with this picture?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Do I put it on the fridge? It's really a
Speaker 1: beautiful way for me to take it.
Speaker 5: I reckon.
Speaker 4: There somewhere prices a.
Speaker 1: Bit lazier, right, it's quite hard when you're pregnant. Don't
Speaker 1: want to reach down there. Let it go, not it anyway.
Speaker 3: There's a bit of like hyperbole here or I don't
Speaker 3: know what's going on, but that's yeah, you need to
Speaker 3: get that tended to.
Speaker 4: I reckon, I could get my gardener to.
Speaker 1: Come over, get a wik whack out anyway, what like
Speaker 1: a whipper snipper, not a wik whacker. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: what we're talking about the same thing.