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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest

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Speaker 2: about their highs as well as their lows, all in

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Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us to feiously fail.

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Speaker 1: Guys, Guys, guys, guys.

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Speaker 2: We have a dream podcast guest on the show today.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it when she said yes to the pod.

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Speaker 2: It is PR Miranda. Now, if anything like me, chances

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Speaker 2: are you grew up watching Looking for Ali Brandy.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm talking. I had this on DVD.

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Speaker 2: I had the soundtrack on CD as well, and I

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Speaker 2: lived my life to that soundtrack.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to be honest.

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Speaker 2: I was so nervous and fully fangirling when I first

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Speaker 2: met Pea. Pierre has had an incredible career both on

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Speaker 2: stage and screen. And the interesting thing is when I

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Speaker 2: would tell people right before interviewing PR.

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Speaker 1: They would flip it.

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Speaker 2: They would lose it because she won Survivor. So I

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Speaker 2: then went in a deep.

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Speaker 1: Dive Survivor and holy mackerel.

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Speaker 2: What an Epic Air Peak achievement PA one PS.

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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert.

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Speaker 2: Also you'll hear her offer me if I want to

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Speaker 2: smell her survivor clothes.

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Speaker 1: Spoil alert. I did, and.

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Speaker 2: It does smell like jungle absolutely if you're into acting

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Speaker 2: in the craft. We talk a bit about her process

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Speaker 2: and technique as well, so you can imagine. I was

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Speaker 2: like a kid in a candy so I was literally

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Speaker 2: soaking up every single word that she said. P Miranda,

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Speaker 2: you are an absolute legend and I'm still blown away

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Speaker 2: that you jumped on the pod. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: Pe Miranda. I'm having a full like fangirl moment here.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I graduated high school in two thousand and three.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're so young.

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Speaker 1: But looking for Alely.

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Speaker 2: Brandy came out in two thousand, I reckon, I've watched

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Speaker 2: it eighty six times?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Did you study it at school?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't, but I know that became really that I

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Speaker 2: remember that being.

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Speaker 3: Did did you go U from Melbourne?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I don't think we studied it down here, which is

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Speaker 4: probably why when I did my audition I was so

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Speaker 4: chill because it wasn't such a massive deal. Whereas I

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Speaker 4: went to Sydney and everyone was losing their minds because

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Speaker 4: they'd all studied it in year twelve and it was

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Speaker 4: such a massive book.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense to study in year twelve. Ye, like,

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Speaker 1: it's a really great book. I think they did.

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Speaker 4: They do now in Melbourne or they did afterwards, but

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Speaker 4: I sort of didn't Kick and Eye, who knew each

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Speaker 4: other beforehand, We didn't.

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Speaker 1: Really know what it was.

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Speaker 4: So we were like, oh, it sounds like a good book,

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Speaker 4: and then we read it and we were like, this

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Speaker 4: is an amazing book. And then we got the roles

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Speaker 4: and then people were just like you know, extras on set,

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Speaker 3: Like believe you're Jacob and Josie, Like this is a

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Speaker 3: really big deal up here in this book.

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Speaker 2: It's Twilight moment. I've heard interviews with the Twilight Us

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Speaker 2: and they're like, we didn't realize was anything. It was

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Speaker 2: like an indie film, and then halfway through the shoot

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Speaker 2: they're like, oh no, it's huge. This has a huge following.

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Speaker 2: So I've dived straight in because I have fangirl but actor.

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Speaker 4: Yoki qualified yoga teacher, so yeah, mostly half the I mean,

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Speaker 4: I haven't really had these grand plans to teach classes

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Speaker 4: really want to do it online, so I've just been

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Speaker 4: doing it for friends or drama students is another one

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Speaker 4: that I do it for that's helped, you know, people

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Speaker 4: calm down and learn about breathing.

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Speaker 2: And well, you would love this because where I studied

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Speaker 2: in Melbourne in school, I'd go there early for our

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Speaker 2: Saturday classes and we do yogs together and then we'd

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Speaker 2: do our day of classes and it'd be right before

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Speaker 2: the movement class and the voice class and so yoag's

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Speaker 2: connecting body to breath.

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Speaker 3: Where'd you go to acting school?

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Speaker 1: Sixteenth Street?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I went to drama school with one

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Speaker 4: of the women that started.

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Speaker 3: That really New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah not Kim Kim No, because you went to Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, over there together.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, small world. I love.

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Speaker 2: I love neding out over acting stuff. So I'm so

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Speaker 2: pumped to talk to you more. I have to mention though,

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Speaker 2: and I need to unpack this down the track.

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Speaker 1: But survivor may may so. I told so.

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Speaker 2: I've interviewed quite a few peple in this trip in

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Speaker 2: Melbourne and they're like, who have you got on? I'm like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm so I've got Miranda on and

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Speaker 2: I thought everyone would be like, oh yeah, looking fairly Branni,

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Speaker 2: because that's my thing. And everyone is like Survivor, Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, Survivor so and like full blown, like people

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Speaker 2: lose their shit that you can swear on this.

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Speaker 1: By the way, for survivors.

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Speaker 4: Survivor fans are intense. I mean I'm essentially a Survivor fan.

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Speaker 4: So I learned that to be a big fan of

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Speaker 4: go over is really strange.

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Speaker 3: And then win and then win yeah may yeah, I

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Speaker 3: still got my stuff. We can go sniffet later. It's

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Speaker 3: in my covered it's not washed.

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Speaker 4: My big bag and really clothes is still sitting there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to talk more of that.

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Speaker 2: And I've listened to a few like Survivor Fanny kind

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Speaker 2: of like podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's full like it's full on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Okay, back to acting press SEC.

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Speaker 1: That's like what I'm nerding out over.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you trained it the Atlantic Theater Company that's

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Speaker 2: in New York, right, And I was like doing a

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Speaker 2: little dive around on their website and I love that

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Speaker 2: the ethos is truth. It's telling a story, but truthfully,

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Speaker 2: absolutely so. Was that kind of the ethos of studying there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, my friends, so the year

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Speaker 4: before I went, my friend's Damian Walsh Howling do you

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Speaker 3: And then they were like, you've got to go.

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Speaker 4: It's great, And so I went with another friend the

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Speaker 4: year after, and you know, we all talk about that.

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Speaker 3: We still use the method.

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Speaker 4: So what they do is they teach you a very

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Speaker 4: not be doing the best performance, but you've got to

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Speaker 4: use the method properly. So but once you leave there,

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Speaker 4: own performance. But I think the best thing about practical

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Speaker 4: aesthetics is that it's a rehearsal process. So one of

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Speaker 4: in and he said, if you're thinking about any of this,

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Speaker 4: when you walk on set or walk on stage, you've failed,

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Speaker 3: This is what we do to rehearse.

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Speaker 4: So we rehearse really well, we rehearse hard so that

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Speaker 4: when you walk on stage, you've built this beautiful foundation

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Speaker 4: and then you can decorate your hand however you want.

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Speaker 2: It's like I've just been la training and the final

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Speaker 2: thing that always say is just you've got to let

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Speaker 2: be in the moment, yeah, and be open.

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Speaker 4: Although I do say, you know, I do teach acting

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Speaker 1: In the moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but sometimes that stresses people out because it's very

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Speaker 4: normal to be in a scene and be like that

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, it's okay to jump in and out of stuff.

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Speaker 4: And the more you can kind of forgive yourself and

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Speaker 4: And if you're sometimes you really nail the line and

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Speaker 3: You're like, god, I nailed that.

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Speaker 4: That's fine too, you know, because a lot of the

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Speaker 4: time I think we feel pressure to be in the

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Speaker 2: Well you would know this is coming back to yoags

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Speaker 4: I've been doing a lot in Lockdown Sam Harris, the

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Speaker 4: Waking Up app. Yeah, And I really like that because

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Speaker 4: it's very forgiving of you know, you'll be doing your

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Speaker 4: meditation and then he's like it's okay if you lost

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Speaker 1: Love so you will know this about yogs.

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Speaker 2: When I teach yoga the second like the last little

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Speaker 2: evern half pigeon, always be like, now, I know you're

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Speaker 2: but I'm like, come back.

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Speaker 1: And it's amazing how the two.

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Speaker 2: I love that you teach drama students yoga because it's

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Speaker 2: amazing how the two interact.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think you know a lot of drama

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Speaker 4: students struggle to remember to breathe because it's a.

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Speaker 3: Very different environment to when I grew up.

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Speaker 4: So now, you know, you've got these young people who

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Speaker 3: Themselves reflected back.

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Speaker 4: But they're also very much in control of that image,

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Speaker 4: and they're also getting a lot of feedback, and getting

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Speaker 4: positive feedback is really consuming. So when they go to

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Speaker 4: stand up and do a scene, sometimes they're feeling really

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Speaker 4: self conscious because the messages they've been given is like,

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Speaker 4: what do people think of me?

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Speaker 3: You know, do people like me? Do people like me?

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Speaker 3: What do I look like?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh god, I'm a fraud because this is all fake

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Speaker 4: and so a lot of the time that manifests itself

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Speaker 4: into so this is getting pre you know.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love it it.

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Speaker 4: Manifest self and just whole like not breathing because when

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Speaker 4: we get nervous, we don't breathe. So I think teaching

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Speaker 4: yoga to those drama students can help them remember, like,

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite acting teachers in the entire world's

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Speaker 2: called Ian Sinclair, and.

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Speaker 3: I heard of Ian Sinclair.

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Speaker 2: I because I like, I said, this is as stuit

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Speaker 1: That would have been intense.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any because you've done quite a lot

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Speaker 4: I did this one play called Fireface, which was so amazing.

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Speaker 4: But I do love I love that first feeling of

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Speaker 3: You know, do you want to coffee? I'm a mom.

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Speaker 4: Everyone knows about me and catering no huge issue. I

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Speaker 3: I never fit into my outfits again.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I did like a segment just a health a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got my own trailer.

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Speaker 2: I was doing a five minute segment, own trailer, own

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not used to this. From Australia. Ready

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Speaker 3: To go and sitting on the like on the pavement

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Speaker 2: I've got on my little props if I'm making this time.

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Speaker 2: my god, that is also in your trailer, Like you've

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Speaker 3: Stocked I would not cope with that.

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Speaker 2: And I'm in zero, like I'm a no one. Can

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Speaker 4: I'm known for being so excited about lunchtime on set

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Speaker 3: Do you know who Amanda Higgs? No, She's a really

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Speaker 4: Produced Secret Life of Us and Mustangs FC that I

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Speaker 4: And the woman went okay, like Amanda just lost her mind.

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Speaker 3: She was like, it's true, it's really bad.

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Speaker 4: All sorts of rules about, you know, what I can

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Speaker 2: Poor you're so young, Doude, like this would have been

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Speaker 4: in an Australian act, and we certainly did not. Looking for Albrundi.

448
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 4: We barely got paid. So it was like, it's so

449
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 4: exciting to us to have all this free food and

450
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,160
Speaker 4: we put Huguese tarts and we take the mos Stoper.

451
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 1: It's great. Oh my god, I love what we're talking about, Caterine.

452
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 4: It's for anyone who knows me, this will not be

453
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 4: a surprise.

454
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I could ask you so much about Also Mustang's FC.

455
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that looked incredible, beautiful. That's kind of recent ish,

456
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:53,959
Speaker 1: isn't it.

457
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did that, I think twenty eighteen to twenty

458
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 4: or just I finished. I think we did the last

459
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 4: season just after I did Survive A Survivor was twenty nineteen.

460
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 4: So three seasons of just pure joy. Really great, positive,

461
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 4: really positive show for young.

462
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 1: Good men, like good Aussies like worth.

463
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 4: A look if you've got young daughter. Yeah, especially late

464
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 4: late primary school age. Really great messages without being heavy handed.

465
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 2: I even saw in like a trailer you were like

466
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 2: amen to that, and someone next you said a woman

467
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: or soth. You were like like, yeah, that's that's.

468
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so good, It's great.

469
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so I have to talk to you about survivor suously.

470
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 3: Because like what do we think for me to do?

471
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 3: I know no.

472
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: But also like when I started researching, the first thing

473
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 2: I type in on YouTube it's heem around a survivor

474
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 2: Like that is the first day. Then I watched the

475
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 2: final ep, the final and I just started crying.

476
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 1: So as someone that learned about.

477
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 2: Your experience on viving, yes, my dad's a massive survivor fans.

478
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,239
Speaker 2: I was getting all the updates but of sitting down

479
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: kind of watching it awkwards.

480
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: I was so hit like with them.

481
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 2: And then like if you won a challenge where you

482
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 2: could make a phone call to the kids.

483
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: And that is amazing.

484
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: Oh my mom's coming up with the dog I've got.

485
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: Oh he's like a little.

486
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 4: Baby, thanks mom My Mom's here.

487
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: It's what breath.

488
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 4: He's a silky so he's like he's an Australian silky Terrier.

489
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 4: So I had an Australian your mom, enjoy your facial.

490
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 4: I bought mama facial Happy birthday. I had a silky

491
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 4: tarry for sixteen years. And this is my replacement baby,

492
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 4: because even though I said I was never getting another dog,

493
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 4: you know, the pain was too much.

494
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 2: Also, Gizmo, the kids named him from Ga Gremlins fans.

495
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: I love Ganda, me too.

496
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 4: But actually, when I was on Survivor, the first thing

497
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 4: I asked my husband when he came to my family

498
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 4: physic was my dog still alive? Because he was so

499
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 4: old by that point. And then I went, is mom,

500
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 4: Mom and dad?

501
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: Okay, is it true that your husband's like, no, no, no,

502
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: I'm behind the scenes. Send your sister instead of Initially.

503
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 3: It was complicated.

504
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 4: I mean, he works on set and you were a

505
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 4: few of the crew, and he's just not someone who

506
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 4: enjoys being on screen at all. So before I left,

507
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 4: I had my sister, my best friend Tom, who Tom

508
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: and I were actually the ones he started watching Survivor together.

509
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 4: They were on my list, and obviously Luke was first.

510
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 4: I said, but if you can't manage it, it's okay, Yeah, Tom,

511
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 4: my sister will come. But you know, once you're there

512
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 4: and you've spent seven weeks apart, and the thought of

513
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 4: I mean, there was just no way I wasn't going

514
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 4: to see them. It's no contact, it's so full on

515
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 4: and I remember the producer saying, you know, he's keen

516
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 4: to come, and I was like, Okay.

517
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 3: He's definitely missed me.

518
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 4: My big issue was that the flight over to is

519
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: pretty horrific, and so I was really scared about my

520
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 4: kids going on that tiny little plane. So I had

521
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 4: to organize another way for them to go because I said, look,

522
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 4: whatever happens, I don't want the kids on that tiny plane.

523
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: So scary as well.

524
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: But don't need the cords gizmo. But he you know,

525
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 4: once you've i mean no contact is intense. I really

526
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: really struggled for the first three weeks. It was just

527
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: I mean, it was physical pain. I just thought I

528
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 4: cannot do. You never in your wildest dreams thought I'm

529
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 4: going to win this.

530
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: I knew if I got to Merge, I was going

531
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: to win it.

532
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not I didn't know, but I knew

533
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: if I got to Merge that everyone was in trouble.

534
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: But me getting to Merge. I mean, I don't know

535
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 4: if you know much about survivor not.

536
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: To the extent of this, but please go.

537
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: And I'm such an American survivor.

538
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: This is what I heard, and didn't you really want

539
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: to go on the Americans Vivory.

540
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: I'm an American citizen.

541
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 4: The American Survivor is you know, there's not as many

542
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 4: episodes a week, and so the Australian one is definitely

543
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 4: and I'd watched it, but I hadn't really realized how

544
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 4: intense those challenges were. So when I was doing all

545
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 4: my training, I was doing swimming and running and yoga,

546
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 4: and I should have been a like CrossFit because it's

547
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 4: all upper body strength.

548
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: It feels very crossfitted now that.

549
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's height is a huge advantage. I mean, you're

550
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: quite yeah.

551
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: I mean, Sean who came second twice, will tell you

552
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: having short legs is a real disadvantage. And so for me,

553
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 4: I mean, and I got put on a tribe with

554
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: a bunch of athletes, you know, which is a very

555
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 4: different vibe to actors. I mean, you know actors were

556
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 4: self deprecating.

557
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially Assie one.

558
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: Ossie one.

559
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, we would have had a few sing alongs. There

560
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 4: wasn't a sing along. We just sat around the fire

561
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 4: and talked about our achievements. You know. It's a very

562
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 4: different And I was very much a fish out of

563
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 4: water until I met my I met my crew of people,

564
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: and then that's what got me through and I met

565
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: a really close friend.

566
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: I made it.

567
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I beloved friend on that show.

568
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: I've seen you guys do interviews to. It's so cute. Yeah.

569
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: Is it true about the crabs? Is that legit?

570
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: Like the crabs will crawl on you at the night. Yeah,

571
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: and then you'd be like, there's brecky.

572
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

573
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 4: And I would actually grab the little crabs that i'd

574
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: find in the day, but no one was that desperate

575
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: for food. I'd put them in my hat and then

576
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: name them because I got really weird, and then i'd

577
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 4: put them on the fire and eat them. But the

578
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 4: big crabs, if it was a full moon, they would

579
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 4: crawl on you at night, and so you just grab them,

580
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 4: hope not to get your finger bit off, and the.

581
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: Shuck them in the pod. So the first time that happens, though,

582
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: you have to be petrified.

583
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: The first time it happened, one crawled on Abby Holmes

584
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 4: and she was just like she was sleep talking like animal, animal, animal,

585
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 4: and then we just thought it was around.

586
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: There's like animal.

587
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 4: You can't see anything, so someone has to get a

588
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: fire poker and then all of a sudden we're like

589
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: crab and then.

590
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: You know, she said animal.

591
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: Imagine it was like a snake or a tarantula or like,

592
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: oh my god.

593
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I live in bar and Bay right now, so

594
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: like snakes are like a regular occurs. Yeah.

595
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: Huntsman's man big, Huntsman's no good. Okay, So talk me

596
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: through that moment when they're reading your name the very end,

597
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: that last.

598
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: App and it's like Pierre Pierre and it's just on

599
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: and it was weird.

600
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I know people obviously what you see what

601
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 4: happens on the beach and what you see on television

602
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 4: quite different things. And so I know people were very

603
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 4: hard on Baden and sort of saying, oh, he did

604
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 4: the worst, you know, tribal council, which was not true.

605
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 4: He actually the producer had told me that I had

606
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 4: four minutes for my opening statement and then we got

607
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: Q and A, but Sho didn't tell him that. I

608
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: don't know she forgot. So his opening state was twenty

609
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 4: five minutes I think, and it felt like that it

610
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 4: was really long.

611
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I.

612
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: Remember when you finished, Jonathan went, okay, that was a lot,

613
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 4: and mine was four.

614
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: I went, I did this. I did this this because

615
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: I knew that Q.

616
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 4: And A is where I was going to shine got it,

617
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: so I was kind of happy through that anyway. And

618
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 4: then I think I was really rattled by that because

619
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 4: he gave a pretty good opening statement and then I

620
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: was failing. And then I remember looking up and Abby,

621
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: like the first ten minutes of the tribal, which goes

622
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: for two hours, I remember Abby, who we'd had a

623
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 4: tricky time out there anyway, was looking at me like

624
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: you're losing. He's got a fight, and I just looked

625
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 4: up and I saw everyone's faces and everyone, I think

626
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 4: for us, everyone on that final tribal was a worthy winner.

627
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah you know.

628
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: There was no one there who I was like, couldn't

629
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: have made it, So everyone feels a little hard done by.

630
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 4: And then I went, oh, I've got a step up,

631
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: go for it. And I had warned Baden beforehand. I said,

632
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: I'm really going to go for you because my plan

633
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 4: had been to play nicey nicely, nice nice and then

634
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 4: be like a viper.

635
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: In the final tribal. Vipra is very good.

636
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: So I went there and then when I went there,

637
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 4: I could see everyone's faces lighting up. And then I

638
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 4: just went there for that and some of the stuff

639
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: they cut out like I went there.

640
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: I mean I really there.

641
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 4: Was a whole bunch of stuff about Rice stealing and

642
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: like I do it up at one point and I was, you.

643
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 3: Know, it was like a real pretense.

644
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

645
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: But when they read my name out, I know how

646
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: that works because I've seen so many survivors, So I thought,

647
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: I go one for why And even though I know

648
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: Harry and I when we were out there, we were like,

649
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: Baiden could definitely win because it's Australia and people love

650
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 4: an underdog and he had a beautiful personal journey and

651
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 4: so and there were a couple of people who said

652
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: already that they were going to vote for him. Yes,

653
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 4: So when they read my name twice, I was like, Okay,

654
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 4: they're gonna get it to Baiden. And then I got

655
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 4: three and then I'm like, okay, this is weird.

656
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: And then they did four. And then I remember going, oh,

657
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: far out, I just need one more vote. And I remember.

658
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 4: Jonathan's face like he pulled out the the the parchment

659
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: and he took a moment, and I thought, oh, I

660
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: just know the rhythm of survivor. I thought, if he

661
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: just pulled out and gone Baiden, it would have been fine,

662
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: but he took it out and he and I thought

663
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 4: he's about to say the winner of astrames.

664
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: I could just feel it and my whole body went cold.

665
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: And then he went.

666
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: The winner, and I just knew I heard it. It

667
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: was like I kept saying, people, wake me up. I

668
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: thought I was in a dream and that everyone's like,

669
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: this is really normal to feel an out of body experience,

670
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: because it was twenty years of me sitting on that

671
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: couch convinced that I could win.

672
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: Convince loving it, like not just going I could do that.

673
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: I was one hundre percent convinced that I could win

674
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 4: that game. And then and also like we were quite poor,

675
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: not poor, We're not say poor, like obviously we can

676
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: feed our family and had a mortgage, but we lived

677
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: in a we didn't live here. We lived in a

678
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: very very tiny house, and we'd struggled a lot in

679
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: financially in our lives. So knowing that that also was

680
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: gone was just really full on and it took a

681
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: lot to I mean, anyone who's won a lot of

682
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: money will tell you that it's it's it's a lot

683
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: to process.

684
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: Did you have a deal with your kids that you'd

685
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: take them to Disneyland.

686
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: After I had two deals.

687
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: I had one deal with Harry, so Harry and I

688
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: when it was final three, it was me and Harry

689
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: and Baiden at Final three and Harry and I had

690
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 4: made a deal because we were pretty convinced one of

691
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: us was winning. So I was like if he's like,

692
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: if I win, I'll do this for you, and I said,

693
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: and if I win, I'll do this for you. So

694
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: that was my first priority. I wanted to do that

695
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: thing for Harry.

696
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: So we did that and that was great, and I

697
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: remember him going, you don't.

698
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: Have to do this and I was like, no, I

699
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: do have you ever shared that? Or is that like

700
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: a secret?

701
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: Harry wants to that?

702
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: Fine?

703
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: And then before I left, my daughter was really into

704
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: me going and then she changed her mind. Yeah it

705
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: was too late, and so she was crying and I said,

706
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: I promise that, Madame. I said, I promise if I win,

707
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 4: I will take you to Disney And I did.

708
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: How cool is that?

709
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

710
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: Did they lose their bananas?

711
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 4: It was so lucky because it was twenty nineteen and

712
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: we were like, do we go in April twenty twenty

713
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: or do we go at Christmas time and I like

714
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: fairy lights a lot. Oh me too, so just to

715
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 4: last me and I was like, we should Christmas because

716
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: it's fairy lights and Christmas and Disneyland.

717
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: So we snuck it in.

718
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: And it was also really the first time for my

719
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 4: husband and I that we'd gone on a holiday and

720
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: really money wasn't a problem. You know, usually the tickets

721
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 4: stuffed up, isn't it, and it's like, oh, you got

722
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: to pay an.

723
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: Extra two hundred and actually like, oh my god. But

724
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: it was the first time we're kind of like, okay,

725
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: it was really Yeah, it was really amazing.

726
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Yeah.

727
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: I've had another Survivor contestant on the show before.

728
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: His name is Sam Webb is a really cool assi.

729
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: Oh is he the astrophysicist or no, no, he was also.

730
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: Our neighbors, but he is all about helping mental health,

731
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: especially men, really really cool human and I was like,

732
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: out of everything you've done, he's like survives a hard

733
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: sting on my yeah, one hundred percent, like without because

734
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: theater is hard mate.

735
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I mean Survivor on TV it is

736
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: times it by a thousand, and that is what Survivor

737
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: is like. It took me two years to mentally recover

738
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 4: from that experience. Not just from the experience of being out,

739
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: there were also from the experience of watching it back,

740
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: the repercussions for a middle aged woman playing Survivor online,

741
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: all of that stuff. You've got negative feedback online one

742
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: hundred because you know it's Look, there's two things that

743
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: go on. One is editors have to edit a certain way,

744
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: of course, and they're going to edit. You know, it's

745
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: very much I think reality TV is very much like

746
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 4: an Alpha personalities domain.

747
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

748
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 4: So I didn't get any any negative feedback from Survivor fans,

749
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: like they're really amazing, but from casual fans. You know,

750
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: obviously it was a tricky time. There was something in

751
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: that edit that was probably not fair to me.

752
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what do you do.

753
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: You know, you sign up for this stuff, and you

754
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: know that really TV is going to sometimes make you

755
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 4: a sacrificial lamb.

756
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: You just have to suck it up.

757
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you rolling the diaceogin?

758
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

759
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: So, But also that stuff comes and goes very quickly

760
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: because those people online who aren't Survivor fans, who are

761
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: like they move on to someone else next, say, but

762
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: you're still left for the repercussion totally. And what worries

763
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: me is that I'm a forty something, you old woman.

764
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: I can handle it. I've got a family that supports me.

765
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 4: I've got another career, so it's.

766
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Not my only total.

767
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: It's not what only people know about me.

768
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: But I worry about people who have to go through

769
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: that without the support when that's the only way there.

770
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: But that's the only thing they're known for in the

771
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: public eye, and it passes, but for the person going

772
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 4: through it, it doesn't pass.

773
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: And that's all the time.

774
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, how would you say being on Survivor has changed

775
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: you as an actor?

776
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: I'm just not afraid of anything, right, Like anything?

777
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like that feeling of going to final

778
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: tribal council.

779
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: I woke up that morning I was like, I want

780
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: to do this.

781
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this.

782
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I really don't want.

783
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: To do this.

784
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: I can't go hope.

785
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: The pressure, like the half a million dollar debate and

786
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: I used to be a debater, but that's a half

787
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 4: a million dollar debate, and like the fear and the everything.

788
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: At the minute I go to do something, I'm like, Oh,

789
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: I'm a bit nervous. I'm like no, I'm not, I've

790
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 4: done final trivel, I'm fine, and things like I had

791
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 4: to push through a lot of stuff.

792
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 3: I'm really afraid of heights.

793
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 4: Our fucking season was obsessed with this fucking tar of

794
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: terror bullshit thing that kept breaking.

795
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 3: One day I was up there.

796
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 4: I've fallen into the ocean and dive into the ocean

797
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: with freaking blindfold.

798
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: On a hundred times.

799
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: It was the worst.

800
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 4: Like if someone said, do you want to survivor again,

801
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: I'd be like not if there's the heights, I can't

802
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: jump into the ocean again.

803
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: So stuff like that.

804
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: Knowing that I had to push through that, and not

805
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: only we didn't just jump in the water. You had

806
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: to run and rab things like six meters.

807
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: I just cannot.

808
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: I cannot but look at look at you, like so

809
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: many people would look.

810
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: And you've seen even on I'm sure you've seen celebrity

811
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: get me out of here, and a lot of slebs

812
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: will like at that point where they get their fear

813
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: like thrashop ah, and they will actually go no out,

814
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 2: get me out of here now, like at the GEO

815
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: at the very start. So like the fact that you

816
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: are able to push through that, says so much about

817
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: your character.

818
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: Well, I did cleverly go to MSAC and hire a

819
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: lovely guy called Tommy who trains the divers, the Olympic divers,

820
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 4: so smart, and he helped me. I couldn't jump off

821
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 4: the three meter before I saw him, and so he

822
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: helped me. Finally, we will watch the We watched the

823
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: clips back because I said, I think it's going to

824
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 4: be like this if I go and we measured. He's like,

825
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: I think that's five and a half meters. He's like,

826
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 4: so you have to jump seven and a half.

827
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god. What a legend.

828
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: So he would just make me. He built me up.

829
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: And then he's like, if you've jumped even and half,

830
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: mentally when you get out there, if you're at a

831
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: five and a half meter tower, you can mentally say

832
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 4: to yourself, I've done taller and you're going to be okay.

833
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: And he was absolutely right.

834
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: What a champion for doing that. Yeah, you're so fearless now,

835
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: like I feel like you're unstoppable.

836
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: I still don't want to jump from live.

837
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: What is like if someone's because you've done so many

838
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: amazing things as an actor now as well and then

839
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: obviously doing Survivor but also doing Survivor as a fan

840
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: I think would be yeah, And I can see even

841
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: the way you talk about it.

842
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: So I'm still like really into Americans on. But the

843
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: best thing about winning Survivor, and because the Survivor fans

844
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: are so good to me, is I can just tweet

845
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 4: about Survill. I'll be watching Survivor. I'm like, I think

846
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: it's interesting, and everyone gives a shit what I think.

847
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: It's the most amazing thing. And then everyone's having conversations

848
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 4: about man, I thinks she should have done this, and

849
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: it's just unreal.

850
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: You really got to the like proper Survivor community.

851
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: Now what would be like what if we looked into

852
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: a crystal ball in like five years from now?

853
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: What would be would you be on a stage? Would

854
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: you be would you love to be in?

855
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, Like what you've done so many

856
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: good things, Like I feel like you've ticked off so

857
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: many bucket list items like what would be an epic

858
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: gig for you?

859
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: It's hard for me at the moment because I've spent

860
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 4: two years inside right, and so I feel like I've

861
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 4: almost lost momentum and a knowledge of knowing what I

862
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: want to do. But I definitely know that whatever I

863
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 4: want to do next is just I want to do

864
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: things that make people happy. Yeah, I think, you know,

865
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: I think that's the point of it all, is just

866
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: to do things that just bring joy to people.

867
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: Whether it's a great comedy or a nice.

868
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: Play or a lot or a comedy bones comedy I'm

869
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 4: in comedy is my favorite, or a good nice podcast,

870
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: whatever it is. Just I think as I'm getting older,

871
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: you know, we want to be able to look back

872
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: and say I did good, and so just doing good

873
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: is really important to me.

874
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: And making people feel good too, Like, and I've seen

875
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: like you've done stuff with like Peter Hawley, I mean, oh.

876
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: My god, Shelton. Yeah, on Sunday I waked to Ryh.

877
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: He just texted me. Me and Ryan and a few

878
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: others did a little did a little thing.

879
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Also good.

880
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: But you've done like Hamish Nandy stuff like you've done

881
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: all the Melbourne funny people who you hang out with,

882
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: and you've got and I've heard Peter say you've got

883
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: the like such a good smile, you've got the like

884
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: sweetest little laugh as well, and I'm like you are

885
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: and then even hearing you on his podcast this morning

886
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: talking about like not loving romantic movies, yeah, and loving like.

887
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: More like Star Wars and like hard like dark things. Yeah.

888
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

889
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: I mean you should see my daughter's room. She's the

890
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: same as me.

891
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 4: It's all anime, so loves like everything dark and we

892
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 4: watch all that stuff together.

893
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 3: But I think comedy for me is like my real love.

894
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: I last my dream when I go back. I'm training

895
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: in sitcom because I want to understand the technique.

896
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Speaker 1: I have no idea.

897
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Speaker 2: My question to you is like being an Australian actor,

898
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: it's amazing because you're become part of this community, but

899
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: it's also really tough because it's competitive. Like there's a

900
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: lot of people that want to be artists in Australia

901
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: and actors in Australia, but there's not It doesn't feel

902
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: like there's loads and loads of opportunity versus other parts

903
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: of the world. And I guess what would your advice

904
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: be to like an Aussie actor or an Aussie starting out.

905
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: I would say, just take control of your own career.

906
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things now where places

907
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: now where you can do a podcast, or you can

908
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 4: do make your own you know, YouTube video or whatever

909
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: it is. Start taking control because a lot of the

910
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: time it's going to be really hard to get a

911
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: job and you don't want that to crush your spirit.

912
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: And also it's hard to kind of gain momentum if

913
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Speaker 4: you're not working totally. So I think putting on your

914
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 4: own stuff and becoming friends with other people, like you know,

915
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: whether I'm working with Ryan or those kinds of people.

916
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Speaker 4: Just making friends with people so that when someone needs someone,

917
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: you're there and you're happy to just turn up and

918
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Speaker 4: do it. Because I think the biggest thing about being

919
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: an Australian actor is that financially you don't reap a

920
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: lot of benefits, so you really do need to have something,

921
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Speaker 4: whether it's you know, I do voiceovers for a quick

922
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: I've heard, or you know, yoga teaching, whatever it is,

923
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 4: you do need something on the side because even the

924
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Speaker 4: most successful Australian actors, or maybe not the people who

925
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: me TA TV shows, but most of us Australian actors,

926
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Speaker 4: we can't really live off it. I mean, looking for

927
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Speaker 4: Ala BRANDI is a perfect experience. I think myself, the writer,

928
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Speaker 4: kick the director, we barely got paid and that's something.

929
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Speaker 1: You know that and you want an AFI for that right. Yeah.

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00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: So you know, I remember walking past someone in the

931
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: street after that and they you know, those people that

932
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: ask you for charity on the street, and I.

933
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Speaker 3: Was like, oh, no, thank you, and he's like, I

934
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: know you can afford it. You've been in a movie.

935
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Speaker 3: And I was like, oh shit, I'm walking to Center Link.

936
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Speaker 1: Like even in book world, right, stuff is writing books.

937
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: And I remember I was in Melbourne at Flinnus Street

938
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: station getting a train to my dad's because as val

939
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: and someone said, why are you getting a train? You

940
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: can afford not to get a train, And I'm like,

941
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: if only you knew.

942
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: In America you can do a couple of pilots and

943
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 4: be fine because you get Grizzi jewels, whereas here we

944
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: don't really get those film residuals. Yeah, like we do

945
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 4: in other countries.

946
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: So that's such good advice.

947
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 2: And to give a shout out to your mate Ryan Schelton,

948
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: I hope you're go on his podcast The Imperfect.

949
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: Hope I do.

950
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: It's so good.

951
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: No, no, seriously do it because I have been binging it.

952
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: I had one of the other hosts h on my

953
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: pod and it's so funny. But Ryan, like his timing

954
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: is just like repackable.

955
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 4: An undiscovered genius in this country, Like I think I

956
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: don't think he gets America.

957
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: Soak him up.

958
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: I would lap him up.

959
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: Like I even watched him the other night when we

960
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: were filming, and I'm like, why is he not the

961
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 4: biggest comedy staring.

962
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: It's only a matter of time when she shut a

963
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: thousand for final advice, final question, because I'm obviously an

964
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: acting nerd and just like feel I'm like still superstarstruck,

965
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: sitting right here, me.

966
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: Cross legged now cotton on pants, just like and then

967
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: before mom was like are you gonna put makeup on

968
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 4: for the podcast? I was like, I have makeup? She

969
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: went okay, And then I was texting my sister going,

970
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 4: I'm just bloody.

971
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: Ask me for.

972
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: The moms like, I'm sorry, no, you look gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous.

973
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: My final thing is like as an actor, I know

974
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: it might be different for film and TV, but do

975
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: you have a little mantra? I know you're really into

976
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: like breath and being here to your breath, but like

977
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: sometimes like before I go on or do a scene,

978
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: I've been doing keeps the scene study in LA and

979
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: I have got no acting show, real or anything.

980
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: More.

981
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: I'm just learning and freaking love it because it petrifies me. Yeah,

982
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: but so I'll have a different song for every each character.

983
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: So nice.

984
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if it needs to be a DJ.

985
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: So I love music. But do you have like a mantra?

986
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: Like a lot of in our method and substitution are

987
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: two techniques that are really celebrated that really rub me

988
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 2: up the wrong way because I don't believe in psychologically

989
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: and taxing yourself. And so for me, I'll breathe, but

990
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: I'll also sometimes i'll say something. I'll listen to a

991
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: song that resonates with that character's energy. Do you have

992
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: any little like mantras or anything you'll say?

993
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: Like right before?

994
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean I really, if you're in America, you

995
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: should train with a guy called Josh.

996
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: Piceriting this down committed impulse.

997
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: Okay, he just changed my world great, Like I.

998
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 4: Mean, because I'm a bit the same, I don't really

999
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 4: you can do all that, you know, Oh, this reminds

1000
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: me of blah blah, but youre going to forget that

1001
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 4: when you're on stage or on screen.

1002
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: It's just it doesn't sustainable. One day it's going to.

1003
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: Wat Josh Pass is great he teaches you how to

1004
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: create characters through movement, and obviously it used to be

1005
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 4: a ballet answer, so that really.

1006
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: Works for me.

1007
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: It's all about bravery.

1008
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: So I do always think about he teaches you a

1009
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 4: few that different characters move in different way. It's like

1010
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: one might be flowing, one might be staccato, that kind

1011
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: of thing.

1012
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: So I'll think about what before I go on set.

1013
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 4: I always just remember what my character's body is, the

1014
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: movement is, and then I will have created my Action's

1015
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: one thing, you know, so I'll be like what do

1016
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 4: I always think what do I want to get you

1017
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 4: to do in this same That's one thing, but I

1018
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 4: won't think of that about that before I go on set.

1019
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: I'll always create right at the top of my scene,

1020
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: the one thing to think about before the scene starts.

1021
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: So it's a mantra I create for the character like

1022
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get you too, or you're you're gonna or

1023
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 4: fuck you for It's not really it's not really perfect method,

1024
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 4: but it works for me. Whether it's like fuck you,

1025
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: I'm going to destroy you or you know you're going

1026
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: to crumble at my feet, whatever it.

1027
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: Is, some weird little thing, or I'm amazing or whatever

1028
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: it is.

1029
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: Those two things I always do as they're going so

1030
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 4: quite unset rolling as I'm breathing, because you.

1031
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: Know, oh my godness, I you would love Ian Sinkler

1032
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: then in his Melbourn too. So hopefully you guys get

1033
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: to eat it together. And there's a Ted talk.

1034
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to send you that. Joseph Gordon love it.

1035
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know him.

1036
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he talks about that moment you just spoke about

1037
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: quite on set rolling and it's his mantra.

1038
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: And because it can be anxiety inducing, and I think

1039
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 4: when people start in the industry that don't realize how

1040
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 4: scary that is. So you need a safe space because

1041
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: everyone shuts up and everyone's staring at you.

1042
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh fuck, I am not ready for this.

1043
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: It fucked so full on.

1044
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: And you can get so in your head and then

1045
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: they imposter syndrome stuff and you're like.

1046
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: And all the best people question themselves and think that

1047
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: shit at the end of the day.

1048
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: So you know, it's like, it's a good thing we

1049
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 4: do because it makes us good people and it makes

1050
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: us not ego maniacs. But also it can kind of

1051
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 4: get in your way, so it's good to have something.

1052
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: But you love Josh Pies. He does a little free,

1053
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: does a little free. He's got his own website and

1054
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: he does a little free like you know, audio lesson.

1055
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: Oh my god, in America, you could hear.

1056
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: You've just made my day. Thank you so much for

1057
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: jumping on this.

1058
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1059
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: Like I said Pemrana, I'm still a fangirling right now.

1060
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe this.

1061
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: I'll let you go sniff my clothes after this if

1062
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 4: you want to. I'm not gonna say no my surviving

1063
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 4: just to clear it up, not my underwear.

1064
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: You are a legend. Thank you.

1065
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: No, you've done a very good job. Sleeping at our feet.

1066
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: Just stretched out. Thank you, my friend. You are so inspired.

1067
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1068
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1069
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

1070
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Speaker 2: on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Yumo Lullaberry. This potty my word for podcast

1072
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love it if

1073
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