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Speaker 1: a heads up that today's episode will include discussions about

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Speaker 1: violence against women. If you or anyone you know needs help,

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 2: the second of May. I'm zara, I'm billy. Yesterday the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister announced several new measures to combat domestic violence.

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Speaker 2: Before we explain that what's making headlines.

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Speaker 1: Student protests over the Israel Himas war have intensified across

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Speaker 1: ceasire and for their universities to divest from which means

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Speaker 1: stop investing funds in companies linked to Israel. According to CNN,

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Speaker 1: more than one thousand students have been arrested across at

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Speaker 1: least twenty one states since mid April. If you want

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Speaker 1: to read more about this story, we will put a

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Speaker 2: Westpac has announced it will delay the closure of its

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Speaker 2: And the good news NASA's James Webb Space Telescope has

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Speaker 2: successfully mapped the weather of a planet two hundred and

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Speaker 2: scientists observed water vapor from the planet. So Billy, this

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Speaker 2: is the second episode in a week that we are

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Speaker 2: Can you first go through what exactly the Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So yesterday the Prime Minister held an emergency National

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Speaker 1: And at about eleven o'clock yesterday the Prime Minister came

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Speaker 1: And he made several announcements during that press conference.

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Speaker 1: Reported, and the main one was that victim survivors escaping

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super interesting. So a fairly wide range of announcements.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we did hear from the opposition leader Peter Dudden.

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Speaker 2: It's very clear that everyone agrees that more needs to

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Speaker 2: With that plan. So the plan failed. A review found

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Speaker 2: come up with a new plan. What is that plan

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Speaker 1: Again, it's something that we're not going to be able

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Speaker 1: the first time, this new plan included the importance of

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Speaker 1: engaging men and boys. So that goes to them taking

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Speaker 1: on the issue. And so this plan has four key areas.

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Speaker 1: They are prevention, like I said, that was a really

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Speaker 1: recovery and healing. And I want to look at one

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Speaker 1: we were discussing before about the thirty percent increase. So

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Speaker 1: under the current National Plan, one of the key targets

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Speaker 1: is a twenty five percent reduction per year in female

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Speaker 1: victims of intimate partner homicide. So just to say that,

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Speaker 1: in other words, the goal is to reduce the number

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Speaker 1: contrast to the government trying to reduce it by twenty

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Speaker 2: I mean, either way, if the plan only kicks in

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Speaker 2: this year, next year or the year after, it's very

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Speaker 2: clear that there is an issue. It's very clear that

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Speaker 2: It's obvious that we need a complete rethink of the

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Speaker 2: of women who are killed by men. And it was

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Speaker 2: interesting when we uploaded this piece to our Instagram, a

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Speaker 2: lot of the comments took issue with the twenty five percent,

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Speaker 2: saying well, what about the remainder And that's certainly a

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Speaker 2: we get there over time. Billy, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for that explainer, and thanks to everyone for listening. If

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