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Speaker 1: If you want to know what's happening on the local

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Speaker 1: political landscape, Katie Wolf has it covered on three sixty

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Speaker 1: every one is listening Mixed one oh four point nine.

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Speaker 1: Joining us live on the line right now is the

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Speaker 1: COLP President Jamie de Brenne. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Well, we are happy to have you on the show

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Speaker 1: and very keen in a moment to talk about this

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Speaker 1: pre selection process on the weekend. But first things first,

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Speaker 1: there are some pretty serious accusations being made in numerous

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Speaker 1: publications today after Senator Sam McMahon was reportedly encouraged to

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Speaker 1: leave the Upper House on Tuesday evening after several colleagues

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Speaker 1: raised concerns that she appeared to be disorientated, struggling to walk,

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Speaker 1: The Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that more than ten

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Speaker 1: senators from different political persuasions have confirmed that Senator Sam

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Speaker 1: McMahon appeared to be heavily under the influence of alcohol. Jamie,

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Speaker 1: what is the reaction from you and the party to this?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Look, yeah, Okatie. I've seen the reports in relation

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Speaker 2: to the claims against about the behavior of Sam McMahon

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Speaker 2: But look, I can only confirm what you stated earlier on.

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Speaker 2: I talked to Senator Sam mcmahonne this morning. She was

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Speaker 2: in the doctor's surgery waiting to be seen. And look,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, we have to there won't be any

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Speaker 2: more comments until there is results in regards to what

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Speaker 2: to be delivered by the Senator herself. Today's climate when

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Speaker 2: it comes to medical situations, you see doctors and that

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Speaker 2: I'm not to comment. That would be her choice to

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Speaker 1: Well, look, we have put in a request to her

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Speaker 1: Is she okay?

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Speaker 2: I honestly, she said she hasn't been feeling well for

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Speaker 2: so I'm hoping she is genuinely like everyone yourself. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we hope everything is okay. And I can't comment. I'm

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Speaker 2: not a doctor. So again and results like that, I

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Speaker 2: hope they are great results. Everything's fine, but she needs

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll certainly make sure that we stay in contact

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Speaker 2: Will We've got to respect the situation. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One thing though, I do want to say from that

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Speaker 1: manufacturing any reason to dislodge Senator Sam McMahon before pre selection,

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Speaker 1: even factional or even fictional ones. I mean, is this

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know either. Look,

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Speaker 2: that's nothing to do with the COLP in the Northern territory.

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Speaker 2: We are sitting there with a group ready to go,

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Speaker 2: that's stuff. I'm not aware if that's Camber and Katie,

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Speaker 1: Hey, well, Jamie, talk us through this process of pre

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is a Central Council weekend. But part

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Speaker 2: We have delegates, which is part of the branch process,

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Speaker 1: Have you had many people put their hands up for

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, only ones I know of

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Speaker 2: a vetting process. Now these people may have put their

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Speaker 2: regards to immigration, great great grandparents, everything like that. But

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Speaker 2: we do everything to ensure not just for our emblem

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Speaker 1: And right well, Jamie, there's been quite a few names

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Speaker 1: Has there been many put their hands up? Or you

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's purely and simply about speculation in the press.

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Speaker 2: I've read exactly the same as UKad and that's what

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Speaker 1: Hey, just finally we know Barnaby Joyce is going to

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Speaker 1: Are you Are you concerned that there's going to be

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Speaker 2: Spots, Well, that's outside of excuse me, the room, because

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Speaker 2: and we've got great candidates. And the biggest thing I

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Speaker 2: isn't it a great spot the conservative politics is that

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Speaker 2: we have such great people that want to be leaders. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's a great choice we've got.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jamie, it's going to be an interesting weekend, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about it. We'll see what pans out. We might

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Speaker 1: get you back on on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Well definitely Tomorrow's say. One thing can I think to

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Speaker 1: So are people down there in Alice Springs enjoying the

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Speaker 2: Definitely, it's an information based for us. Remember we don't

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Speaker 2: important we don't get that, you know, it's that information

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Speaker 2: EIGHTHA working that way is exactly what the territory needs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well make we together as one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're really pleased to you know, Mixed one O

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Speaker 1: Fortnite is really pleased to be working with ADH and

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Speaker 1: being able to do that on a Friday because you're

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Speaker 1: spot on. You know, we've got to make sure that

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Speaker 1: so important no matter where you live in the Northern Territory,

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Speaker 1: you know that your voice is heard and that those

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Speaker 1: issues are certainly you know that we talk about those issues,

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Speaker 1: whether we're talking about Tenant Creek, whether we're talking about

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Speaker 2: We are territories individuals, that's right. I just want to

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Speaker 2: personally say thank you for what you are doing and

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Speaker 2: it is really imported and appreciated.

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Speaker 1: No worries. Well, Jamie, we really appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you again very soon. Thank you. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: You're right, my mother used to call me that. Good

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Speaker 1: on you, Jamie, thank you. That is the COLP president there,

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Speaker 1: Jamie de Brenny, And yeah, interesting stuff. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: talking to us there from a real party perspective