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Speaker 1: Coming up on the podcast Amanda Cruz, Who's put together

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Speaker 1: it's an incredible show, The Blind Eye Trilogy.

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Speaker 3: We talked about your expensive hobbies.

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Speaker 1: And John Longley and Lisa and I reminisced about this

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Speaker 2: We have some great bands here in beautiful wa But

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Speaker 2: for mine, my favorite local band since the Triffids is

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Speaker 2: Empire of the Sun. I think Luke Steel is a genius.

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Speaker 2: I just love Empire of the Sun. So I'm thrilled

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Speaker 2: by the news this week. The Walking on a Dream

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Speaker 1: Use unique talent, Loke Jackson, Robert I love christ you

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Speaker 3: Our first family of music, don't they the Steel?

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Speaker 2: They are an amazingly talented family. That sounds awesome. It's

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Speaker 3: Do you have any expensive hobbies than claires?

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Speaker 1: I do have a home drum kit, which is an

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Speaker 3: I wanted to learn the cello once, Oh did did

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Speaker 2: Give her up up so that no. I also thought,

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Speaker 1: We have a mutual friend who used to buy a

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Speaker 2: I thought the camera would be you know, the outlay,

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Speaker 1: Lens, So forget have gamers when they buy the fancy

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Speaker 3: I don't know about chair. That's like, you know, bicycle

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Speaker 1: I did know a guy who was into triathlons and

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Speaker 3: What's your expensive hobby? Eileen in Morley, Hello.

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Speaker 6: Good morning. How are you going?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Good? What do you go? What's your hobby?

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Speaker 6: I collect statues with dragons.

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Speaker 2: Dragons, Okay, I've.

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Speaker 6: Got a doubt probably about two hundred. Wow, and I've

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Speaker 6: spent probably between about three to four thousand dollars on do.

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Speaker 5: You have any dragon room or a lair where they

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Speaker 5: where they can They're all.

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Speaker 3: About in the in the garden.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't have a garden.

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Speaker 6: All live inside because I've all got personalities, Like you

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Speaker 5: And iilean.

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Speaker 1: Do you have like favorites that are collector's items or

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Speaker 6: I look everywhere for them, yep. I even when I

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Speaker 6: went to America a few years ago. I actually shipped

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I've always wanted? Iiland you much

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Speaker 2: share this some this design. I've always wanted a really

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Speaker 2: gothic gargoyle over my front door. Love love a good gargoyle.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, did you find let me know?

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Speaker 2: They're not easy to get a good plassic door knockers

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Speaker 2: a good luck with you.

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Speaker 1: You might have to do a bit of teamwork when

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Speaker 1: that one I reckon, and you don't have to do.

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Speaker 1: If you've only find one, you have to do week.

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Speaker 6: About definitely definite.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye.

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Speaker 5: I was not expecting a dragon collector today. That's cool.

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Speaker 3: Magdalena in Safety Bay, Hello.

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Speaker 7: Hello, how are you good?

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Speaker 3: What's your expensive hobby?

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Speaker 7: Collecting candles?

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Speaker 3: Candles?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I've got so I've been collecting candles over

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Speaker 7: and I've probably got around fifteen hundred candles, and they've

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Speaker 7: cost me like close to one hundred thousand dollars so far.

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Speaker 3: One hundred thousand dollars worth of candles.

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Speaker 7: Yes, close by, maybe even a bit more. I just

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Speaker 5: Where do you sleep, mag Oh?

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Speaker 8: My god, in the other room.

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Speaker 7: Got one full room dedicated to my candle, and I

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Speaker 5: The Great one of the great abbeys of the world.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, obviously I don't like them, because.

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Speaker 7: Well, what I do is like if I love the collection,

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Speaker 7: Glasshouse candles, which sometimes they can go for three four

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Speaker 2: That's what I well, not three or four hundred ones,

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Speaker 3: Alfy Coast is where I like to go make.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I love that one. That's kind of my favorite.

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Speaker 3: I love the Alfy Coast.

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Speaker 5: That's a lot of afternoon Yeah, they could. They could

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Speaker 5: have staged episodes of The Bachelor of your Place.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, it's not just even the candles, like shipping

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Speaker 5: I was going to say to your burning of them,

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 7: I'll get the extra one to burn. But I never

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Speaker 7: So there's no point buying all those extra extra otherwise

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Speaker 7: I'll never get around to burning all the new ones.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, make sure you never watch a movie

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Speaker 2: with Vincent Price in a cool house of way, You'll

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Speaker 7: Your Yeah, I always get actually have fire blankets everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, pretty much. That's an incredible story.

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Speaker 3: That's an incredible collection. Makes matter well done, Thank you,

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Speaker 5: That is dedication to the Hoby, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of candles. Jenny and Karen, Hello, good morning.

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Speaker 3: What's your expensive hobby?

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Speaker 9: Well, that would be my husband. Okay, he does basically

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Speaker 9: every possible sport there is. Take thanks, scuba diving, third

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Speaker 9: bike riding, mountain biking, and the list goes on. Yes,

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Speaker 9: whereas I like reading a book.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Actually, all of those you mentioned that you have,

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Speaker 4: If he does, they are.

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Speaker 9: They are because you don't just have one type kite,

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Speaker 5: We'll call you, were called you Tommy from now on.

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Speaker 5: Some great hobbies.

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Speaker 5: More podcasts soon, ninety six.

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Speaker 2: I'm such a big fan of anything that sort of

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Speaker 2: I can only suggest that people get along this Saturday

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Speaker 10: Thanks for coming in, guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm told The Race of the Century is available now

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Speaker 3: John Longley was one of the crew.

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Speaker 4: mightier in those.

449
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Speaker 7: Days and it is today.

450
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 4: So it was a wonderful story.

451
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 5: It is an incredible story. John. You know one thing,

452
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 5: and you say you'd forgotten a couple of things. There

453
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 5: was a bit. Now I forgot how far behind we

454
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 5: got during Ray seven.

455
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 4: They were quicker, They were quicker than that. I mean,

456
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 4: let me tell you. People know we were dead lucky

457
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: to win that last race. Yeah, yeah, dead lucky. And

458
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 4: the reason why I say that is because in light

459
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 4: breeze conditions in Newport, you look after the right, you know,

460
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: you always look after the right. And Dennis of course

461
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 4: got in front of us. He was quicker than us

462
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 4: because he'd pulled this absolute stunt where he'd light and

463
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 4: he was quicker and he just looked after the right.

464
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: But guess what, one time in ten the pressures on

465
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: the left and he kept forcing us back into that pressure.

466
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 4: You it was extraordinary, not till the doc is.

467
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 3: On Saturday night at had been a turnaround.

468
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 5: Like John, I.

469
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Speaker 4: Tell you were half way up the second beat. Halfway

470
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 4: up the second beat. I turned to Brian Richardson, who

471
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 4: was the starboard grinder, and he was a rower, so

472
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 4: he wasn't really a huge sailor, and I said, Jesus

473
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 4: rich we're two minutes behind here. And then we then

474
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 4: we got into the left stuff and we got headed.

475
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 4: I said, mate, if this keeps going like this, will

476
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: only be a minute behind the top. Dark ending happen.

477
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 4: And that's what happened. I mean, it was, it.

478
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: Was, it was.

479
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: The documentary includes Bob Hawk's last.

480
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: Interview and he amazed, was.

481
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: Amazing, and he talks about how of all the things

482
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 2: he said and done, the you know, the the bosses,

483
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,719
Speaker 2: a bum comment he made on the day will always

484
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: be his most famous.

485
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: I've always liked the whole of what he said.

486
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 5: Have you seen what any boss who sex anyone's but

487
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 5: not turning up the day is above the next day?

488
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: To my Yeah, he did tell us we had to

489
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you never hear that bit. You never

490
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: hear that bit. You don't want to ruin a good story,

491
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: but it was. It was such a classic moment. There

492
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: were a few classic moments. The other one that I

493
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: always think about is Bondie, you know, giving the sign

494
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: to bring.

495
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: It out of the water to show the kid.

496
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 5: He was the conductor.

497
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what when that happened, I had

498
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 4: spent large one of my last year hiding the keel.

499
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 8: Yeah.

500
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

501
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 4: When body said lift, I said, bugger this and I

502
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: went shooting up to the top of the can. And

503
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: one of the sure guys is about the press the button.

504
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: I said, give me the button. Yes, buttons the lifter up.

505
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was your job, by the way.

506
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 4: Job.

507
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty three, Dennis Connor was painted for Australians.

508
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: There is a bit of a bad guy. We disliked

509
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: the a loudmouth American. He was actually very gracious in

510
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: defeat and he was a great, great sail a wonderful,

511
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: brilliant tailor.

512
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 4: Absolutely genius. I mean the third, the fourth race, you

513
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 4: know we we to two one and we were and

514
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: you know, the breakages were, you know, just really bad luck.

515
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 4: I mean the boat had been so resilient for all

516
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 4: of those races leading up to it that that fourth

517
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 4: race Dennis raced it as if it was not a

518
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: match race. One on one. He ignored us. He sailed

519
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: it like it was a fleet race, and it was.

520
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: It was one of the most brilliant pieces of sailing

521
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: I've ever seen, and I saw it from up close,

522
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: trailing the barstard the whole time. He was He was

523
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 4: amazing Dennis. And he had a very strange character in ways.

524
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,239
Speaker 4: That's why some people like to sort of paint him

525
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: as this sort of because he was. He was just

526
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 4: as you can see yesterday, totally intense. I mean very.

527
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 13: We love a parade and you you were very surprised

528
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 13: when you made the journey from Fremantle to Perth to

529
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 13: you know, so that everyone could say that I was.

530
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 4: Still in Newport when Warren Jones, and it was very

531
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 4: sad that Warren wasn't. You know, if you can't tell

532
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: the whole story, you can only you can only tell

533
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 4: a slight of the pie. But Warren was such a

534
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 4: critical part of he was our manager. But Warren, Warren

535
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: was sort of looking at a telex machine to you

536
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: remember them. Yeah, said they're going to bloody have a

537
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 4: parade from Freeman. I said, don't be mad, bo twenty

538
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: two k or whatever is. There's going to be three

539
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 4: people and a dog watching us, you know, and it

540
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 4: was lyned the whole way. Yeah, the point was, and

541
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 4: they didn't actually say this on the broadgame last night

542
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 4: when we got to the esplanade. Remember there'd been huge

543
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: number people the whole way in Fremantle, all the way

544
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 4: down the Stirling Highway. It was police numbers. There was

545
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand people on the esplanad. Wow,

546
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 4: the population of Western Australia was just over a million.

547
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 4: One in four people were there.

548
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're on the esplane. I've done all the way

549
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 5: to the river.

550
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 3: Isn't that amazing.

551
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: You've mentioned Dennis kind of being a different kind of cat.

552
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: What about barefoot Ben LExEN? Would it have happened without Ben?

553
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: Oh? Benny is one of my great great old mates

554
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: and I was missing so much as we've got godfather

555
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 4: of my son Nicholas. He just said he is just

556
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 4: an extraordinary, extraordinary man and it was made. The point

557
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 4: was made in the video. He had three years of

558
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: formal education and what that does is he gave him

559
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 4: a completely open free He wasn't constrained by anything.

560
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 12: But he was incredibly smart.

561
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: I mean he needed to look out the calculus and

562
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: some of the you know, the design work. He did

563
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: so and taught himself. Here's a guy I went to

564
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 4: school for three years teaching himself calculus and his and

565
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 4: as also came out on the program. He was so

566
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: like linked into nature. I mean, he would watch dolphins,

567
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: he would watch birds.

568
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 12: He just had this he put his head on, he

569
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 12: blink and he goes by and he just he was

570
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 12: somewhere else.

571
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: He was a wonderful, wonderful man and go yeah, God,

572
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: he was just back of John.

573
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: It was a fierce rivalry obviously between the two boats.

574
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: But I've always liked to think that as yachties, at

575
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: the end of the day of racing, that a very

576
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: good time would have been had back at the clubhouse.

577
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 5: No, no, no.

578
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: Clubhouse. We're living. We're all living in mansion that Newport's got.

579
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 4: All these old man we're all now used for housing,

580
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 4: you know, the kids who go to the to the

581
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 4: nursing college there. Anyway, so we were after it was

582
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: all over, we sort of somehow we was led by

583
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: police and god knows what to the to the press conference.

584
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: And we all did the press conference that it was huge,

585
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: you know, and so forth and then we sort of

586
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: were forced our way out from the finally you leave

587
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: the crowd, and then we sort of wandered back through

588
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 4: the streets of Newport and we looked at each other

589
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: and said, what are we now? Disappointment because you know,

590
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: like we had five days off in five months. Yeah,

591
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 4: so we were just totally obsessed by work. And so

592
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 4: Bondie said, I'm going to have a party at my house.

593
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: So I went up to Bondie's.

594
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 12: House and it was the quietest most.

595
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: We were all exeu times each other and saying what

596
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: I went because I was I was living with my

597
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: wife Jenny in the house outside the crew House because

598
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: I had my son there, Nick, and and I went

599
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: back to the crew House to get some clothes. The

600
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: next morning I walked through. The place was full of

601
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: people asleep, lads. A few of the lads went down

602
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: to town the rip of the park. But us, we're

603
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: just making it well.

604
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 5: It was phenomenal to watch last night.

605
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: We've got to thank you once again for providing one

606
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: of the most amazing moments in this country's history.

607
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: That I will ever see in my lifetime.

608
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: And it's the untold The The Century is available to

609
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: stream on Netflix. Now everyone's going to love reliving it.

610
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: Thank you. Look, I'm just so proud that it was

611
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: made up. I mean there were thirty nine years ago,

612
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: but we were all profession we're all amateur sales teachers

613
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: and carpenters and what have you. And to we have

614
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: that acknowledgment after so long.

615
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

616
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: But these two guys, you know, Chapman and the clay

617
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: Way who they weren't even born. The producers, the Ammy

618
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: Award producers. Yeah, and they said, this is a story

619
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: we've got to tell.

620
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely had a tear in the eye by the en

621
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: of it last night and won't be alone.

622
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: It was very cool, very emotional.

623
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: John Longley, It's always so lovely to chat with you

624
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: about the America's Cup.

625
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: By It's incredible.

626
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: We could have spoken for about thirty minutes easily.

627
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: These are really good. These I'm told on Netflix some

628
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: you know a.

629
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: Lot of documentaries and that I mean, I'm biased, but

630
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: that's the best one I've seen yet.

631
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: And isn't it funny At the very end of the race,

632
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: after all of that, in the excitement, Bondie was going off.

633
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: But John Bertrand, who was so dedicated to the cause,

634
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: it was just sort of like slumped, well now you knows.

635
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: John said they were.

636
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: Like Kathy Freeman when she finally won the four hundred

637
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: mills in Sydney, that just slumped on the track. So yeah,

638
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: that's what the dedication brought them so much, fat Bloody

639
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: Six a FM crazy and Lisa