WEBVTT - Sophadophaa's 'Clueless' Kmart Clothing Haul 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.480 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:08.960 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.400 Kate Torbert and coming up on today's show, Indie Clinton 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.200 hunts down trolls with the help of a PI so 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.320 for Dopha Islam for being clueless after her kmart Hale, 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.640 Tullie Smythe and Michael Staples surprise passed, and Ella Ding 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.560 defends her decision to monetize her pregnancy announcement. But first, 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.800 Tammy Hembro has taken a dig at her husband Matsakowski 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:31.360 while she's away in Egypt. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.400 Isn't his Egypt trip very random? 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.720 She is currently there hosting fans on an aw Adventurer event. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:39.680 It is the second trip that she's done with the 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.120 travel company, and listeners will remember that late last year 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.480 she hosted fans on a trip in Greece, which got 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.040 a lot of flat for being very expensive. Now, Matsakowski 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.120 didn't attend the trip to Greece, and it's clear he's 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.360 not in Egypt at the moment with Tammy. He's in 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.960 Melbourne hanging out with his family and his sister's Golden retriever. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.640 It's like he wants everyone to know he's in Melbourne. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.320 That's the vibe that I'm getting now going back to 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.840 this trip, it spans eight days and it is incredibly 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.440 expensive for fans, so a private room will set you 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:13.360 back over seven five hundred dollars, whilst a twin room 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.119 costs around six thousand dollars. I mean, you may as 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.080 well go for the private room. I don't really get 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.080 the connection between Tammy and Egypt because it's being promoted 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.760 that she's going to be helping guide the tour. I 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.600 laughed when I read that, because she is going to 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.560 be appearing alongside an Egyptologist. I believe that's how you 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.240 renounce it, so basically someone who is an expert in 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.880 Egyptian history. And it's funny because on the website it 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.920 says that they will ensure an unforgettable adventure filled with history, 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.440 culture and connection. I'm assuming that Tammy's role is bringing 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.240 the connection amongst the group, not the history side of things. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.000 It seems like she's learnt a lot already on this trip. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.680 She's been gushing about a lot of the historical facts 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.400 that she's learned along the way, because they've been doing 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.360 a lot of activity. So they've included explore wearing the 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.920 Pyramids of Geezer, sailing the Nile at sunset, They've done 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.400 a traditional dinner, they visited temples. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:07.240 They've also done a. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.880 Cooking class and enjoyed a sunrise over the Sphinx. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.040 So it seems like it's been a very cultural trip. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.240 Was the traditional dinner that thing where I saw there 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.799 was this guy making some sort of meal and he 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.320 spoonfed Tammy hembro. I must have miss that. It was 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.280 rather awkward. I was surprised it ended up on her story. Well, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.840 Tammy has been sharing about all of the women on 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.760 the trip, so she put up a post where she 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:33.040 tagged every single follower slash fan who was there. I 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.240 wonder if that is part of what they're paying for, 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.079 exposure to her millions and millions of followers, or just 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.000 the fact that they get to hang out with her. Oh, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.520 it's definitely just hanging out with Tammy. I wonder if 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.880 they're trying to get all the details on the potential 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.120 marriage breakdown. I mean, she has been wearing her rings 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.359 over there. Yeah, I was surprised to see she was 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.200 wearing her rings. Also from a safety perspective, I wouldn't 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.480 want to be traveling with that massive diamond on my finger. Now. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.800 While exploring the temples, Tammy appeared to make a subtle 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.960 dig at her austraynge her husband, Matt Sakowski. So she 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.440 shared a photo of a tomb and wrote, he built 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.200 this temple dedicated to his wife because he loved her 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.240 so much. Okay, I want to point out that I 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.280 am nowhere close to being an Egyptologist, but I did 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.040 do a bit of research into this tomb, and apparently 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.560 the pharaoh in question who helped build it described his 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.639 wife as his favorite wife. I mean, that's a good thing, 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.480 and referred to her as the one whom the sun 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.600 shines for. So it was very romantic. So on one hand, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.320 we've got this guy four thousand years ago building a 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.200 temple out of sand to show how much he loved 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.320 and respected his wife. Fast forward to twenty twenty five, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.600 and we've got Matt Szakowski and Tammy hembro unfollowing each 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.680 other weeks before their nupt she was not living in 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.400 the same state, and Matt, who was sliding into girls 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.120 dms after the Grand Prix. So romance seems to be dead. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:50.920 This century. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:52.720 I do have to stick up for Matt at least 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.920 he doesn't have multiple wives like the pharaoh. Home back 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:02.720 online for good and and that's that's what I'm doing. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:03.840 Tiktoki. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.960 Indy Clinton has put her trolls on warning after experiencing 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.920 relentless online harassment over her recent nose job. The mother 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.040 of three has called in reinforcements Gate. Now, we have 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.839 spoken in length about how awful the trolling of Indy 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.800 Clinton has been, so if you wrote an article about 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.840 it for Mama Mia, it got to a point where 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.080 other content creators and media organizations had to step in 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.840 and call the behavior out. I just haven't been able 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.760 to comprehend how nasty people have been. The commentary has 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.359 been next level, particularly when Indy has been so vulnerable 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.280 and honest about the procedure in the first place. She 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.599 didn't have to share the news with her audience. In fact, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.640 she said that she was actually considering hiding it from 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.560 her audience because she didn't want to look like she 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.000 was promoting plastic surgery as something that. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.080 Was just normal and every day to do. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.279 Yeah, and due to the trolling, she went on a 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.560 social media hiatus, but she returned about a month ago, 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.559 and she's been posting as normal. And she actually shared 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.000 a Q and A this week and addressed a followers 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.120 question about the recent trolling incident. So in it, she 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.320 revealed that she's been working with a PI for a 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.039 few months to find out who are behind the accounts 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.560 who continuously bullied to fame and harass her and her family. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.840 Do we think that these are tattle life accounts? 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.320 Well? She referenced that the behavior is happening on Instagram, TikTok, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.400 Reddit and other forums. I noticed that no one ever 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.120 wants to name tattle Life. I can see why. Yeah, well, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.240 she wrote, The anonymous accounts and the faceless people hiding 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.320 behind them need to be held accountable. I'm here to 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.279 make a change for my children, your children, your nieces 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.080 and nephews. She went on to say, no change is 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.680 made if no change is done. I'm here to make 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.400 an impact and a difference. I'm absolutely shocked who these 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.120 people are. That's all I can say for now, as 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.800 it's an ongoing investigation. This is quite interesting because a 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:52.720 couple of months ago, we were approached by some influencers 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.480 who I'm not going to name who they are they 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.440 were micro influencers who have been harassed on Tattle, and 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.880 they too were doing their own the investigation and deep 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.240 dive into some of these faceless trolls on these sort 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.400 of forums. So it seems like influencers are really hitting back. Well, 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.400 I can see why they're going to these measures to 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.640 try and protect themselves because there isn't actually a specific 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.160 anti trolling law. Back in twenty twenty one, there was 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.360 hope that the government will pass this specific social media 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.039 anti trolling bill which would protect social media users from 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.559 online harm. And the whole preface was that social media 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.279 companies were going to be held accountable for the defamatory 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.800 content posted by users, and it was also going to 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.839 make it easier for victims to identify anonymous trolls because 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.640 social media companies were going to be forced to unmask 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:43.040 them so that the victims of trolling could pursue legal action. Unfortunately, though, 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.240 that bill was not passed and it's no longer being 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.040 considered because there was a lot of criticism around it. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.760 People said it was rushed, it wasn't comprehensive enough, and 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:55.200 it was too narrowly focused on defamation. So I can 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.360 see why influencers are now saying, well, I've got to 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.680 take it into my own hands and unmask the troll 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.920 because once you actually know who the people are, there 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.920 are legal avenues you can go down. So of course 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.800 you can sue for defamation. You can also report trolls 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.640 to the police for things like cyberstalking, threats of violence, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.560 or repeated unwanted contact. I also think when it comes 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.640 down to it, that if you are unmasked and you're 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.520 named and shamed online, or have the prospect of being 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.680 named and shamed, you're probably going. 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:25.920 To back off from doing well. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.360 It's not so much about unmasking them to name and 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.280 shame them, it's unmasking them so that the person who's 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.200 being harassed can actually take legal action. Yes, and I 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.760 also think that some influencers like Indie are speaking publicly 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.760 about the lengths they're going to in order to scare 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.080 people into stopping and thinking about what they're doing. Even 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.680 how she said that you will be absolutely shocked to 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.680 see that these are just everyday people. I mean, I 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.320 recently jumped onto a tattle thread and I saw one 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.440 of the users outlined that they worked as a doctor. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.880 Now they weren't necessarily bulling or harassing anyone. But they 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:05.080 were contributing to a thread about some local influences and 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.560 basically saying well, calling into question their work ethic and 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.400 saying it's hard when you have a proper job like 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.760 a doctor's. I mean, it was interesting their perspective. But 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.880 again I think that people aren't actually aware that a 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.360 lot of people who were trolling others, they have very 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.120 professional backgrounds. They work in high paying and high flying jobs. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.960 We do need to remember they're not everyone that participates 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.000 on tutle life is a troll. There is a difference 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:33.360 between people that are constantly abusing and harassing influencers and 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.920 then people that want to hold maybe some bad behavior 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.360 that they did to account. But I think the issue 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.960 with tatle is it becomes an echo chamber and the 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.520 people who may have just jumped on because oh I 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.760 didn't like how that influencer did this or that, then 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.560 they become radicalized in a way. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:49.679 Well, remember there was a. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.520 Woman behind an account which was born basically off tatle 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.440 Life called Salty's Day, where it just focused on Sarah's 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.480 Day's indiscretions, and it was later revealed that the woman 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.040 who run was actually a teacher and everyone was shocked 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.599 to hear that that was her job. And also I 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.680 think her husband or boyfriend had no idea that she 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.400 was running this account and someone actually docks her to 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.440 her partner and that's why she shut it down in 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.599 terms of Indie when I was looking into the legalities 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.960 around what she can do, it's quite interesting the fact 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.160 that she lives in New South Wales because there's also 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.640 Dolly's Law which was passed by the New South Wales 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.360 government in twenty eighteen. So the law is named in 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:29.280 memory of Dolly Everett, who very tragically died by suicide 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.600 after sustained cyberbulling. So this new law criminalizes cyberbullying and 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.400 has strengthened penalties for online abuse. Surely, if you're one 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.360 of these cretins who's been trolling Indie Clinton, you'd be sweating. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:42.559 Okay, I have a bone to pick with all of you, 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.040 because who was going to tell me the Kmart clothes eight. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.200 Kmart's PR team is rejoicing after jen z It Girl 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.319 Sofa Dofer declared the store is officially in its slay 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.920 era when it comes to fashion. Whilst it's a win 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.400 for the discount department store. The fashion TikToker was slammed 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.679 for being late the party, with many labeling her clueless 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.160 and out of touch. So if it's quite clear that 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.120 Sofa isn't on the same side of TikTok, that the 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.520 rest of us are no bless her though, because she 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.080 seemed genuinely excited to break this news about Kmart to 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.480 her followers. It was as though she thought that she'd 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.760 uncovered some sort of hack or this well kept secret. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.800 I mean, when it comes to fashion, generally she is 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.480 the one who is dictating the trends and jumping on 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.240 things first. But in this case, it was just so 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.400 awkward how much of a late comer she was to 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.079 this one. I mean, she seemed to be in disbelief 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.440 that some of the dupes on offer, and she even 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.920 asked her followers why people have been gatekeeping Kmart's clothes. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.480 She also put together a hole to show her followers. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.199 Let's have a listen to some of what she said. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:45.560 Okay, I have a bone to pick with all of you, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.000 because who was going to tell me the Kmart clothes eat? 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.079 Why are we all gatekeeping? Orso? Why do I look 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.800 like this I'm so sorry. I'm going to do a 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.760 hall because I was in Ka yesterday getting homewares and 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.840 I checked it out. I was leaving and I was like, okay, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.000 because I never go through the kmart clothes because random, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.079 and I was like literally picking up everything. So I 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.680 want to do a hat because I'm like a little 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:17.880 bit shoogar, like, okay, came out, Capriz Okay, like cutest 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.240 bag I've ever seen, for like eight dollars? Do you 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:27.600 hear me? How much was this twenty dollars? This would 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:33.439 cost like one hundred dollars anywhere else? Who was gonna 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.319 tell me? Who was gonna tell me? Why are you 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:36.960 all gate keeping? 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:39.160 Hello? 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.719 Like, why is anyone talking about this? How much was 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.320 this twelve dollars? Twelve dollars? 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.560 Well? Might it not mind? Tom? It was so awkward 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.360 because the general consensus in the comments section was that 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.920 nobody has been gatekeeping kmart clothes. In fact, there are 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.760 quite a number of TikTokers who have literally built followings 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.720 from sharing their Kmart fashion fines. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:05.200 Yeah. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.000 One user wrote, literally, no one was gatekeeping. I thought 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.960 this was common knowledge, to which Sofa replied what another said, Babe, 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.960 everyone is talking about it, to which Sofa replied, I've 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.040 been living under a rock. It's just so surprising for 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.640 someone like Sofa Dofer, who practically lives on TikTok, for 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.200 her not to come across any of these videos. I 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:28.800 question how Kmart's blue shirt dish Jube has not made 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.320 its way into her for U page. Maybe because fashion 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.640 TikTok is her job. When she is taking a break 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.520 and having a scroll on the app, maybe she's looking 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.000 at completely different style. I'm interesting to know what her 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:41.760 algorithm is actually made up of. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:42.320 Now. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.960 Her seemingly innocent hale seem to also elicit a very 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:50.240 angry response from some followers, who felt her video proved just. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.680 How out of touch she's become. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.520 One user wrote, normal living Australians who aren't rich know 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.439 that Kmart has good clothes with a laughing face now. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:02.280 That comment received over five thousand likes, whilst another said 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.600 our tax bracket differences are showing, which got over three 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.360 thousand likes now. Sofa actually responded to that comment, writing 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.040 how I just didn't realize that they had nice. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:13.120 Clothes with a crying face. 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.240 In response to Sofa, another user hit back saying because 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.360 none of US can shop anywhere but here, So this 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.520 is giving clueless to the current money situation in this country. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:22.600 There was also a lot. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.920 Of comments regarding Sofa being so flippant about the cost 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.560 of things, because she was like, oh, this was just 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.400 oh hang on, let me check the price. Twelve dollars. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.079 Can you believe it. A lot of people were saying, 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.000 oh God, when I go clothes shopping, I'm having to 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.559 memorize exactly how much things are so I can see 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.559 if they can fit into my budget. Even when she 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.080 was showing this particular bag, she's like, oh, this bag 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.640 was about eight dollars, and then she's like, oh, no, 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.800 actually it was twenty dollars, Like obviously that's not expensive. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.600 But she's like, oh, generally a bag like this would 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:47.480 cost one hundred dollars, and. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:48.480 I thought yeah. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.400 And the fact that she said she was so busy 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.320 that she just grabbed all of these clothing and it 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:53.960 all came to one hundred and fifty dollars, which is 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.240 like nothing. It's like, well, yes, in the scheme of 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.360 getting i don't know, six or seven items, yes, that's 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.319 pretty good when you compare it to other shops. But 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.560 then being able to drop that money so easily, like 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:05.320 so many of us. 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.320 Would have had to budget for that whole. Yeah. 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.800 Whilst this hasn't been a particularly good PR move for 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.640 Sofa Dofa, it's been great for Kmar. And there's been 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.160 a lot of cynics who have questioned is this an 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.720 orchestrated PR campaign by Kmart? I mean, all I can 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.280 say is it doesn't appear to be. I think that 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.520 this was a genuine post. She didn't use any paid 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:28.520 partnership tools. Kmart hasn't commented on the post. It seems 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:28.800 to have. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.440 Been an organic discovery. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.680 I think she was just trying to create content that 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.760 resonated with people, and she's known for creating so many 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.320 halls yeah, just random things. I mean, it just shocks 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.520 me that she has her own clothing line called All 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.800 for Mimi, and she hasn't really done any research into 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.560 the market, into competitors, Like I understand that her clothing 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.120 is sold at a higher price point, but you think 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.080 you would look at it and say, okay, so these 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.080 are this is where kmart sits, This is where you 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.000 sit on the scale, and this is like a higher 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.000 end brand now, particularly when Jupe fashion is so popular. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.120 I mean, that's what Kmart and Targets seem to be 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.920 doing best of at the moment. I do think it 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.280 was a clever way, though, to try and initiate a 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.480 deal with Kmar in the future. I wonder if this 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.280 will lead to a partnership deal. I think if I 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.800 was Kmart, I'd jump on the opportunity, particularly to get 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.920 some more gen zetters into the store. Many people also 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.240 did point out in Sofa's comment section the Target is 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.840 also popping off. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.040 I mean, I don't really love Kmart's clothes. I know 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.000 you got around that Jupe dish shirt. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:29.600 Oh I was so quick to get that. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.840 But I'm not someone I don't have an eye for fashion. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.360 I need someone to say this item at KMA is 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.520 really good. That's what everyone is doing online, you know 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.320 what I mean. People are taking the guess work out 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.120 for you, which is why people are like, how a 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:41.280 Sofa do for not being. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:41.720 Aware of this? 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.840 Yeah, but I managed to go on Target's website and 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.920 actually open things and be like, oh, I actually genuinely 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:46.240 like that. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.520 Yeah. Oh, Target's great at the moment. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.600 The thing is, it's not just k Mart's pr team 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.440 who's had a big win over this post. The store 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.840 design team would be celebrating after hearing that Sofa only 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.320 made the chance discovery about Kmart's clothes as she was 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.720 checking out. So those of us trendsetters who have been 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.560 in on kmart secret for quite a while now know 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.800 that the store has been specifically designed to have the 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:13.040 cash registers slap bang in the middle of the store. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.120 I actually hated it when they changed the store up 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.520 like that. It's so clever because it means you have 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.960 to go into the heart of the store, You're more 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.360 likely to walk past something that you like, and it 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:26.120 increases your chances of impulse buying. So I've never really 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.920 you know, like with the impulse buying with kids, but 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.640 now that I have a kid, I'm like, this is 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.400 fucking cruel. My Jack at at the stage now where 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.400 he loves pointing at things. I haven't had an instance 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.280 where I've had to buy him anything from the shop yet, 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.440 but I feel like it's just coming. Well. I'm not 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.920 even thinking about kids. I'm thinking about myself as a magpie. 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.160 Anything shining I see, I'll take that. I'll take that. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.000 The thing with Sofa is she may have never bothered 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.680 to venture into what she presumed was daggy Kmart clothes 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:52.880 if it wasn't for how the. 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.560 Shop was laid out. So hats off to them. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.280 It's paid off for them, But it's not like it's 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.000 a new store layout, like it's been like that for 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.160 a couple of years now. Yeah, but it's paying off 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.280 of them. Is she just not shopping at Kmart a lot? 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.000 I would like to know how many of the pieces 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.560 that sofa showed in the hole are now sold out, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.800 because I feel like Kmart would be experiencing the full. 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:12.520 Sofa do for effect. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.560 I mean, I'm such a sheep. I was like pausing hanging, 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:15.719 like which one was it? What? Which one? 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:15.879 Does? 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.200 She say? Is cool, because I've got no idea. See 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.240 I looked at those clothes, tho not for me. They're 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:21.320 definitely Jens clothes. 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:22.440 Well I thought they were ugly. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.880 But I'm like, I really don't know anything about fashions. 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.520 I discovered that burgundy and marone apparently the colors of winter. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.160 I actually none of those in my wardrobe. I knew 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:35.240 that and that chocolate brown. I met Michael, my husband, 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:40.119 when he was working at Channel nine this week we 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.320 shared an influencer family tree of sorts. Amy ended up 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.280 creating this in between her feeds, so she wanted to 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.320 demonstrate the six degrees of separation between some of Australia's 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.280 top influencers. And what seemed to shock a lot of people, 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:58.560 including myself, was the revelation that former Big Brother contestant 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:04.800 Tully smythe to date love islander Anna Macavoy's husband Michael Staples. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.520 When I saw that, I was like, hang on, it 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.000 kind of does make sense. I thought he looked familiar, 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.320 but I couldn't quite put my finger on white. Before 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.679 Amy posted it, I had to confirm with it. I'm like, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.040 are you sure that you're not confusing him with her 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.880 ex boyfriend Daniel because I saw work the saying they do. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.000 Look very similar. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.159 Well, it's clear that Michael also has a type for 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:28.280 blonde reality stars. So Tully and Michael actually started dating 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.920 back in twenty twenty during the Melbourne Lockdown, and Tully 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:36.240 soft launched the relationship several times during the pandemic, gushing 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.399 that she couldn't survive Lockdown without him. I think I 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.800 would like to be reincarnated as one of Tully's Smyth's 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.120 boyfriends because the way she gases them up when she's 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.360 dating them is next level. Like this guy's sweet. Yeah, 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.480 it's so sweet. Like the guy that she's dating at 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.160