1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio is Darwin Commander Matt 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: hollandb with the Territory Police. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: Goodbarding. 4 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 3: Matt, Goodbarding, Katie, and good morning to your listeners. 5 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Now we will talk about crime stats in a couple 6 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: of moments, but I understand that the Northern. 7 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Territory Police had quite a busy weekend. 8 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: You're out targeting people who are on the road who'd 9 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: been drinking. 10 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: How did it go? 11 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Look, Katie? 12 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: We announced Operation Roland last Thursday, which is our Christmas 13 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: holiday road safety campaign. That's a territory wide campaign. But 14 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: in terms of Darwin, on Friday night, we had a 15 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: number of significant random breath testing sites. We tested a 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: total of seventeen hundred people for drink driving and fifty 17 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: one for drug driving. Sadly, there was a woman who's 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: been issued with a notice to appear for driving under 19 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: the influence of amphilamines and there was fifteen people that 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: tested positive for drink driving, So it's a bit sad. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: You know. We alerted the public that were we were 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 3: going to do it, and some people obviously just didn't listen. 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: I just don't understand why it's so hard for people 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: to not get behind the wheel after they've been drinking. 25 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: Were those readings high or how were they? 26 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: Look? 27 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: Most of them were actually quite low. It's you know, 28 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: the people who had a few drinks after work type scenario. 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: But there was one person that was arrested with a 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: reading of point two zero six. Wow, So that's ridiculous. 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: That's ridiculously high. And you know, I think we probably 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: saved a significant crash on the night I reckon. 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean, when you arrest somebody who's got such a 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: high reading, are they quite visibly intoxicated? 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: Look, it depends CADI, It depends on the person's tolerance. 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: You know, people like yourself and myself, I'd probably be 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: unconscious at point to point two, you know, the readings 38 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: you know up around the point three. You basically have 39 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: to be a chronic alcoholic to reach that level. 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: It's quite unbelievable. That's what I thought to myself. You know, 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: I can't I can't even imagine reading being that high. 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, you know, I will say that nine 43 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: of the readings were low range. That's low range has 44 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: been between point zero five and point zero eight. And yeah, 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: they are the people that just had one too many 46 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: after after work and got caught. 47 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: And just that reminder really for those people, for all 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: of us, because I guess that's certainly much easier to 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: do to have one too many, you know, I guess 50 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: it's a good reminder for us to either get a taxi, 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: have a you know, have a sober ball, or call 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, get an uber. Yeah. 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely. And look, you know, nearly fifty percent of our 54 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: fatal crashes are caused by drink driving. It's a causal factor. 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: And I think you know, if if you seriously hurt 56 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: or killed one of your family members or another member 57 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: of the public whilst driving under the influence of alcohol 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: or drugs, it's going to ruin your life forever. And 59 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: you know, we've had thirty people die in our roads 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 3: this year and Christmas, we know it was a time 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: of celebration, and we just asked people to be sensible 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: and don't drink and drive. 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 64 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Now we also know that Northern Territory Police had to 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: issue one driver a notice to appear and seized another 67 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: driver's vehicle after a honing incident in the city on 68 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the weekend. As I understand that police were conducting foot 69 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: patrols on kitchen A Drive when a holden commodore was 70 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: observed honing before losing control, crashing into the curb. As 71 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: police approached, the driver attempted to take off before reversing 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: into one of the officers. 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: Is that officer okay. 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, the officer is okay. He's got bruising, fairly substantial 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: bruising to his leg. You know, this is just a 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: honing incident by young people that were being idiots, and yeah, 77 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: it hurt somebody in the process and now they're going 78 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,279 Speaker 3: to have to suffer the consequences. 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. 80 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: What's so lucky that that police officer is actually okay 81 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: with something like that happening, isn't it. Yeah? 82 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think he's in good spirits. You know, he 83 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: obviously are going to be a bit sore for a 84 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: day or two. But you know, sometimes the difference between 85 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: not crashing and having a fatal crash can be millimeters 86 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: or milliseconds, so very very important to bear that in 87 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 3: mind on our roads. 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Now, Commander, we know that the crime stats 89 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: were released late on Friday, and by the look of things, 90 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: I've had a bit of a look through Darwin, both 91 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Darwin and Palmerston, and we know that Palmerston includes the 92 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: Greater Darwin region or the rural area. It does seem 93 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: as though things like house breakings, commercial break ins and 94 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: motor vehicle theft. 95 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: Are on the decline. 96 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we've had quite big increases in things like alcohol 97 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: related assault and domestic violence. I mean, do you think 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: I guess statistics are always a bit difficult because they 99 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: are a snapshot in time. But is that your sense 100 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: on the ground at the moment. Are things sort of 101 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: starting to quieten down a little bit when you talk 102 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: about those home break ins and that or is it 103 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: not really the. 104 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: Look Katie, These these statistics are twelve months, a snapshot 105 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: of twelve months compared to the previous twelve months, and 106 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes it really it more depends on what 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: happened eighteen months ago than what happened today. So but 108 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: having said that, we've had we had a good run 109 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: of six months of very very you know, record low 110 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: crime rates. 111 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: That was during COVID. 112 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: Was that during COVID? Yeah, but you know, year on 113 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: a year it's down. But in terms of the here 114 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: and now, there has been some spikes and with you know, 115 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: our Springs is probably the most notable one. But you 116 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: know there was a spike in the rural area for 117 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: a short period of time, and Coroma and Malac. I've 118 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: obviously got a lot of attention of late. But you know, 119 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: statistically crime is down. Some people will say, oh, yeah, whatever, 120 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: but you know, the fear of crime and the perceptions 121 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: of crime are really important as well as you'd appreciate. 122 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: So you know, we we probably need to do some 123 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: more work in that space. 124 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you talk about the rural area and Karama 125 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: and Malac, how are things going? I know that there 126 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: was that public meeting obviously in Karama and Malak. 127 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: How are things going with those areas? 128 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Karama and Malac in terms of house breakings, 129 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: they weren't that. You know, any crime is bad, but 130 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: house breakings weren't as high as people thought. What was 131 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: most noticeable was the smashing of indiscriminate smashing of windows, 132 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: you know, property damage, and it was you know, if 133 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: you're a victim, you don't want to hear this, but 134 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: it was nuisance crime of predominantly children doing stupid things. 135 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you sort of stop that? Because I 136 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: know it's so hard for people that live in those areas. 137 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: I know, if I lived there, and I was worried 138 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: that my home was going to be the windows smashed 139 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: or whatever. 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: It's hard if you're at home. 141 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: With little kids, and while it's nuisance crime, it feels 142 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: really unsafe. 143 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, as I say, I don't mean to 144 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: downplay it in any way. If you're the victim of 145 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: that crime, it's not a nuisance, it's really bad. But yeah, 146 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: we're working with territory families. We've obviously got our youth 147 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: operation that's going over the Christmas holiday period. Still it's 148 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: not just a youth crime operation, it's a youth engagement 149 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: operation as well. Territory families have a big, big role 150 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: to play. 151 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, last time you and I spoke, I know that 152 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: you'd said that there were some nights where your officers 153 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: were having to drop some people home, you know, several times, 154 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: some of those young people home several times in a night. 155 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: Has that improved much? 156 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: Look, I think it has, But for some of the 157 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: more encourageable kids, it was a bit of a game 158 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: where you go home and you jump the back fence 159 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: just as the police leave, and so yeah, it is 160 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: a bit of a game. But again it's about reassuring 161 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: the community that not every child that you see on 162 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: the street is a criminal. You know, some of them 163 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: are committing dumb crimes, stupid crimes. Yeah, but you know, 164 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: if your children are walking down the street, you don't 165 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: want people looking at them thinking that they're criminals. So 166 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 3: it's not always the case. Well, you know, Carima and Malac, 167 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: there's a lot of young people living in those suburbs 168 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: and we engage with them as best we can. 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt, can I just ask very quickly just back 170 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: to those crime stats because I know that domestic violence 171 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: is something that there has been an operation that's been 172 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: launched in recent days from the crime stats, and I 173 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: know that, like we said, it is a bit of 174 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: a snapshot in time, but there does seem to be 175 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: a real increase in that domestic violence. Is that sort 176 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: of I mean, does that relate to that COVID lockdown 177 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: as well? 178 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: Do you think? 179 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: Look, I think it does in part. But you know, 180 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: the awareness of domestic violence is you know, we do 181 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: a lot of work in terms of a tizing that 182 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: you know, domestic violence is not on So it might 183 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: be that you know, there might be a more reporting, 184 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: which is a positive. But having said that, domestic violence 185 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: reports are going up. That's really really sad, and I 186 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: don't really think it gets enough airtime in terms of 187 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: you know, people are solding their own family members, which 188 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: is which is pretty sad, really it is. 189 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: It's terrible. 190 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: It's a terrible situation and it seems to be something 191 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: that we've got a real issue with in the territory. 192 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: I know how police are certainly trying to focus on it. Yeah. 193 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And look, Christmas is a time for family, but 194 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: it can also be a stressful time for families that 195 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: aren't doing well or they're struggling, whether it's financially or 196 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: or for other reasons. So it can exacerbate family issues. 197 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: But we you know, we ask it to be a 198 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: happy time and a good time for for families. And 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: you know, if if if you get worked up, just 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: take a walk. It's assaulting. Is assaulting a family member 201 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 3: is never on It's never It's never acceptable. 202 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: No, Absolutely, well, Commander Matt Hollanby, we are going to 203 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: have to leave it there. Thank you very much for 204 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: your time this morning. All the best, hope you have 205 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: a lovely Christmas and to all your. 206 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: Team as well. 207 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, Katie, and have a merry Christmas to 208 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: you and to all of your listeners as well. 209 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, thank you. We'll talk to you again in 210 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: the new year, all 211 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: Right, have a good one you too,