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Speaker 2: from Switzerland for Eurovision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the goss. Did you see Gojo perform?

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 4: It was incredible, the craziest best thing I've ever done.

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Speaker 2: How did Gojo lose? Come on, that's.

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Speaker 3: You say lose? Didn't even get a foot in.

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Speaker 2: The door and got beaten by this Sheila.

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Speaker 3: That's a man, this man Austria. But what happened to Gojo?

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Speaker 3: Because I thought it was great?

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Speaker 4: So Gojo performed in the second semi final. I was

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Speaker 4: there in the room. He was fantastic. He was first

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Speaker 4: cub off the rank, though, which can be a bit

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Speaker 4: of a curse in these settings because by the time

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Speaker 4: you get through there were sixteen performances in the semifinals,

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Speaker 4: so by the time you get to number sixteen, people

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Speaker 4: kind of forget who number one was. But I'm telling you,

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Speaker 4: Switzerland absolutely loved Gojo. I was there for the whole

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Speaker 4: thing as a guest of Booking dot Com. It was

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Speaker 4: an absolute amazing it was my Footies finals, it was

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Speaker 4: my Eras Tour, it was Disneyland on crack. It was amazing.

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Speaker 4: And everyone I met over the course of a few

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Speaker 4: days who found out I was Australian, they were.

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Speaker 3: Like, justice for the milkshake man, We love gold Joe,

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Speaker 3: what happened? He was so great?

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Speaker 4: Everyone was obsessed with him, so it was a huge

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Speaker 4: crowd favorite. I think he just got let down in

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Speaker 4: the vote because it's a listener of your vote for

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Speaker 4: the semifinals, so purely relies on people texting in, and

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Speaker 4: it's five am for us here. I just don't think

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Speaker 4: that there's enough kind of love and tobody mind for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But then the Grand Final is decided by jury vote

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Speaker 4: and text vote, and that's how we ended up with Austria.

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Speaker 4: But as I said, in Switzerland, you can't spell Australia

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Speaker 4: without Austria. So basically we kind of won.

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Speaker 2: Let's assume we want investigating a zen everyone talks about

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Speaker 2: is a story in the news, a zepic sending people blind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wee latest and the cost of a zepic face.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in a harsh pivot. I'm here to talk to

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Speaker 4: you today about Moonlight on the side is a semi

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Speaker 4: serious journalist. When I'm not here talking to you guys,

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Speaker 4: this is of course my number one priority in passion,

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Speaker 4: But in my day job, I'm a journalist, and I

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Speaker 4: started investigating ozepic. We've seen all these headlines for years, right,

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Speaker 4: It's all over the news all the time. But we

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Speaker 4: wanted to kind of look a little bit closer at

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Speaker 4: what is the Australian relationship to ozempic. How many people

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Speaker 4: are actually taking these drugs, how popular is it, what

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Speaker 4: are the side effects that maybe aren't being talked about.

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Speaker 4: Because it's prescribed for weight loss, that's an off label

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Speaker 4: use what doctors call off label use, so it's not

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Speaker 4: subsidized by the PBS. So unless you take it for

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Speaker 4: diabetes type two treatment, you have to pay about four

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars a month, so it's really expensive. But these

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Speaker 4: are private prescriptions and that means there's no tracking, so

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Speaker 4: there's no data that really tells us how many people

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Speaker 4: take these meds. When I say ozmpic, I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: other medications like we go via munjarro, the call glp

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Speaker 4: ones same thing, but we just call them all ozen pic.

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Speaker 4: And what we discovered we kind of did polling of

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Speaker 4: our audience. Twenty five thousand people responded to a pole

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Speaker 4: that The Daily I was conducted. We found out eleven

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Speaker 4: percent said that they had taken it, but nearly half

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Speaker 4: said that they want to take it. So we know

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Speaker 4: there's this really big appetite part of the can for

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Speaker 4: these medications, and you know what does that actually mean

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Speaker 4: for our health system, for social media, for the culture.

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Speaker 4: We interviewed dozens of really incredible young people who were

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Speaker 4: super honest and vulnerable with us and came forward with

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Speaker 4: some horrifying side effects, so we kind of wanted to

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Speaker 4: explore that a bit more. There are some really underreported

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Speaker 4: mental health side effects opic. Yeah, we spoke to an

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Speaker 4: amazing young woman. Her name's McKenzie. She's twenty six years old.

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Speaker 4: She started taking ozenpic for weight loss, and then within

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Speaker 4: weeks she was in hospital suicidal ideation, horrific mental health

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Speaker 4: was on antidepressants long term, but ozepic stuffed up the

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Speaker 4: way her body was absorbing those antidepressants and doctors never

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Speaker 4: flagged that with her. Studies are kind of inconclusive, but

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Speaker 4: there's a database from the therapeutic goods administration here in Australia,

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Speaker 4: where doctors can log adverse side effects to medications, and

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Speaker 4: one in twenty negative side effects from ozenpic is suicidal ideation.

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Speaker 4: So it's this really underreported issue, so we wanted to

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Speaker 4: explore more about the mental health side effects. We also

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Speaker 4: explored more about prescribing practices. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 4: heard of Juniper, but you might have seen it on

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Speaker 4: the back of the bus or advertised during maths. It's

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Speaker 4: a huge telehealth provider in Australia and almost everyone we

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Speaker 4: spoke to was prescribed a weight loss medication through that platform.

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Speaker 3: So they're not seeing their family doctor, is what you say, exactly.

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Speaker 4: So then there are the questions of well, why why

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Speaker 4: aren't people going to face to face GPS.

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Speaker 2: And no one's really admitting that they take a zempic.

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Speaker 2: There's a bunch of how many people have we noticed,

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Speaker 2: like large people that suddenly look thin.

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Speaker 3: But not even large people.

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Speaker 1: I think we can we know the health benefits to

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Speaker 1: our society of the cost of obesity, but there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people taking it just to lose a couple.

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Speaker 3: Of keilers exactly.

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Speaker 4: And I've interviewed a bunch of women who started taking it.

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Speaker 4: You know, they were perfectly healthy. They might have lied

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Speaker 4: about their BMI to get it, and how easy is

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Speaker 4: it to lie to get it? Well, listen to the

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Speaker 4: podcast to find out. But spoiler alert, if you are

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Speaker 4: that determined, you probably can access it. And then the ramifications,

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Speaker 4: you know, eating disorders. So many young people who are

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Speaker 4: taking it too far are and there aren't the kind

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Speaker 4: of safety nets in place. They're falling through the system.

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Speaker 4: There's all these gaps and no one knows that all

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Speaker 4: these people are taking it and possibly need help for

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Speaker 4: other issues. And then, you know, what's the social impact

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Speaker 4: of when we see all these dramatic transformations around us,

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Speaker 4: when it's the celebrities on the red plumpets, but then

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Speaker 4: when it's the people down the hall in our workplaces,

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Speaker 4: when all those bodies are changing, what does that mean

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Speaker 4: for us psychologically?

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Speaker 2: Just Magula cuddy up the shops and suddenly looks in terms.

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Speaker 3: Of body acceptance, what does that mean exactly?

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Speaker 4: So interviewed a range of people with lived experience with experts, doctors,

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Speaker 4: science and nutrition experts, the whole gamut. It's a three

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Speaker 4: part series. You can search the Daily OZ wherever you

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Speaker 4: listen to your podcasts at a US for OZ and

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Speaker 4: it's called Investigating Zimbic. It's all over my social media

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Speaker 4: at M Underschool Gillespie if you want to find it there.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think fascinating.

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Speaker 2: I like when you put on your journalists.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Very elaborate M. Gillespie check out at the Daily OS.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for join M. We'll catch you next week