WEBVTT - Body Image, Racism & being a plant-based olympian with Morgan Mitchell 🌱

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<v Speaker 1>If I have one bad race, people are commenting on

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<v Speaker 1>my body if I have one good race, and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she could lose a little bit of weight,

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<v Speaker 1>but she still ran fast, which she doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And it got to the point and I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>joking where oh my gosh, I'm actually like Jesus, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of cheering up. But it got to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where I would have to go in for a

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<v Speaker 1>being my test once every four weeks because of certain

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<v Speaker 1>people that I had to deal with within athletics in

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<v Speaker 1>OZ And it just got to the point I get

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<v Speaker 1>in there, the biomech dude would be in there and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd just start crying in front of him, like shaking,

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<v Speaker 1>too scared to go onto their scales because more people

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<v Speaker 1>were concerned with my image than my performance.

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<v Speaker 2>Was gone something finally make hello and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Rise and Conquered Podcasts. This is a podcast for

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<v Speaker 2>women who want to take control of their lives, gain

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<v Speaker 2>the confidence to live unapologetically, and who are ready to

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<v Speaker 2>turn their biggest dreams into their reality. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 2>Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur and personal development junkie

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<v Speaker 2>In today's conversation, I'm sitting down with Olympian runner Morgan Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan is a plant based Olympian runner who has achieved

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<v Speaker 2>so much at just the age of twenty five. In

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<v Speaker 2>today's chat, we dive deep into body image, her plant

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<v Speaker 2>based diet, being an athlete, and Morgan tells us about

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<v Speaker 2>her experience being featured on the well known documentary Game Changes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've ever wondered what a day on an athlete's

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<v Speaker 2>play looks like or what their crazy training regime is,

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<v Speaker 2>then this is the episode for you. I just love

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<v Speaker 2>getting to know Morgan. She truly was a delight to

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<v Speaker 2>chat to. And just before we get into the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I did want to note that Morgan is currently in

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<v Speaker 2>the US, so there was a little bit of lag

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<v Speaker 2>time and we did have some internet issues. Hopefully we

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of edit those out, but just be conscious

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<v Speaker 2>of that and apologies if the audio isn't perfect. But

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you love this interview. I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Morgan, and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thanks for having me. I'm super excited.

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<v Speaker 2>We are so excited to have you on the Rise

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<v Speaker 2>and Conquer podcast and you're currently in Chicago, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's eight fifteen here and it's like quite

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<v Speaker 1>funny at this time. It's usually freezing, but it's been

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five and sunny all week, so I'm not complaining amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I am such a person like the weather very much

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<v Speaker 2>controls my mood. So if it's like a sunny, hot week,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Mood, oh for sure. And I guess like coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the Gold Coast, right, that's all you know, was your son.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are so lucky out there in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my cousins live in Melbourne. And then I remember

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<v Speaker 2>like going down there when I was younger for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, and like it being like sunny and rainy

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<v Speaker 2>and windy all one day, and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>how can people live here?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, you just don't know what you're going to get.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a beautiful city though, so I definitely attained that.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get into the show and chat things

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<v Speaker 2>all and chat all things, Morgan, I want to ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a question I asked all my guests

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<v Speaker 2>in season three, and it is, what is something you're practicing,

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<v Speaker 2>a non negotiable that you do daily that really helps

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<v Speaker 2>you step into your power.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh ooh, that's a good one. I have a few.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a funny thing. I'm a bit of a nerd

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to that in like my career. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so one for me, especially like I guess my power

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<v Speaker 1>being tracked and training at the moment, it would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>be to write down my goals for that day, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do it because I'm heavily into visualization

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and like positive affirmations and manifesting for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, it's just like I need to sort

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<v Speaker 1>out what i have to do for the day because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so busy, and if it's actually written down, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. It's like I'm committed. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like looking at, you know, a program from

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<v Speaker 1>my coach, but it's just for me. And one thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me as well, just to cap off the night,

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<v Speaker 1>is to meditate for at least five minutes, just to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I think the thing that I've found

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<v Speaker 1>important over the course of my career is just being

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<v Speaker 1>able to ground myself at the end of the day

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, because I don't know, I just get lost sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like whether it be with

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<v Speaker 1>meeting high profile people and or you know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit, you know, I'm falling out of

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<v Speaker 1>my zone and being true to myself. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the meditation has helped me a lot for sure in

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<v Speaker 1>the past like three to four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love those daily non negotiaals when you're or

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm into visualization and manifesting. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>have a goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh are you the same? Yes? Like how good is it? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And every single day, Like I love writing down my

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<v Speaker 2>goals and I have like three of my big goals

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<v Speaker 2>and then not even stuff like I'm achieving that day,

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<v Speaker 2>but just to have them there and I think is

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<v Speaker 2>so important, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred pc. And just not to lose sight of

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<v Speaker 1>what you want. That's like huge, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I cannot wait to get into that later in

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<v Speaker 2>the interview. But before we do that, could you let

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<v Speaker 2>the audience know who you are and what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So my name is Morgan. I just turned twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an Aussie track athlete, an Olympian and that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much it really. I run track and I'm a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a note in my spare time, I like to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, teach myself piano, learn Spanish, so knit in design,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if it's like undiagnosed add but

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<v Speaker 1>I always just have to be doing something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. And like when you teach yourself those skills,

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<v Speaker 2>are you quite good at them? Are you someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>very like naturally you catch on things?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess with that being arrogant, I would say yes only,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean I also I took Italian and French

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<v Speaker 1>and Spanish when I was younger, so you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of knowledge around that. I had

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<v Speaker 1>piano lessons when I was like six, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I've got like the skill for most of it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube's a wonderful thing. Anyone on YouTube can teach you

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<v Speaker 1>something and you end up being a master at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I think I am, but so yeah, definitely, And

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<v Speaker 1>I love to do.

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<v Speaker 2>My TWN absolutely, yes, I absolutely love that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>really love that you know your hobbies and what you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing in your spare time is so different to your career.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, it's so funny. No one expects it like I

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<v Speaker 1>used to just doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell us more about your running career and tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about what a day in the life would look

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<v Speaker 2>like when you were training, you know, for an important event.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I guess my running career actually started when

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<v Speaker 1>I was six and up until about twelve, thirteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>I was running and then I quit until so it's

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<v Speaker 1>at for six years, I just didn't even look at

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<v Speaker 1>a track. And it wasn't until in twenty twelve, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my last year of high school. And I think any

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<v Speaker 1>Aussie knows. You know, you go from fifteen to eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much just going out with a fake ID and drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can promise you that's all I did in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. And I see on the news that Rio

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<v Speaker 1>will be the host city for the twenty sixteen Olympic Games,

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<v Speaker 1>and I literally just dropped everything then and there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I'm going to those Olympic Games.

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<v Speaker 1>And I called my old coach and just said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about twenty sixteen Olympics And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, you better get to the track first.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I haven't seen you in six years. And

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, it was kind of crazy because we, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we started in twenty twelve, made the World Junior's team

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<v Speaker 1>off of like two months training and like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>is just kind of history, right, But I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>day in the life of Morgan, it's pretty intense. When

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<v Speaker 1>I'm full, like in full training mode, it's like wake

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<v Speaker 1>up at six, get your green tea, and write down

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<v Speaker 1>your goals, eat brecky, hopefully have enough time to like

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<v Speaker 1>take the dog for a walk or whatever, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out the door ready for training at eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and that's straight onto the track, and then straight

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<v Speaker 1>after that at eleven, I'll be into the gym. After

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm trying to you know, tee up with a

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<v Speaker 1>friend for coffee or answer emails for that day that

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten from my manager. And then at night it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a nice long eight to ten k job,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how I'm feeling. And that's kind of almost

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<v Speaker 1>day in, day out, depending on what my coach wants

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<v Speaker 1>for training. But it's quite funny, like I'm so used

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<v Speaker 1>to it, even though I sit back and think, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually pretty busy. It kind of it's it just

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<v Speaker 1>becomes your whole life, right. So yeah, that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>mean in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Nutshew imagine wow, And so talk to us a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more sorry about your training because I find it

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<v Speaker 2>super interesting in regards to obviously, you know, you do

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<v Speaker 2>that for conditioning and whatnot. So you go on the

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<v Speaker 2>track and then you're in the gym and then you

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<v Speaker 2>go for a run every single day. I can imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that being super difficult, super difficult and quite hard on

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<v Speaker 2>your body. So in regards to that, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like recovery that you do also?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, to be honest, I hope you agree with me

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<v Speaker 1>on this. It's quite funny because I do do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of recovery, like I try to anyway, in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of ice baths and stretching. But as soon as I discovered,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've got one of the best, best, best

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<v Speaker 1>hseos in the world, and like he's just such a legend.

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<v Speaker 1>And same with my massage therapist, I was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like me being lazy and just wanting some downtime. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm just going to pay someone to

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<v Speaker 1>do all that recovery stuff for me, which probably isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a good message to send to most people, like you

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<v Speaker 1>should have your own routine. But I just think, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always doing something, I just want to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to lie down on a table and someone else is

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<v Speaker 1>putting in the work for me. So I'm going I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. Yeah, like three two to three days a week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, yeah. I mean people are usually like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you even a professional athlete? But I'm saying, someone

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<v Speaker 1>out there wants to earn money, Well there's your money.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I absolutely love that, and I love that you

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<v Speaker 2>touched on that and you're just very like upfront about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it it is important too, because like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, and I don't like, I don't even think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lazy thing. I think it's the You're clearly

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<v Speaker 2>someone who is very like switched on and join and

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<v Speaker 2>very very lots of things happening all the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you probably need that, like you probably need some

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<v Speaker 2>to go, Okay, stop, Morgan, just lay on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do some bodywork. And I feel much the

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<v Speaker 2>same like I do that with acupuncture and massage and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I almost like need someone to tell me to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure. And how good is acupuncture you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh insane. And for me it's just at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, it's like another hour, hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half of just being able to sleep or meditate or

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<v Speaker 1>just completely zone out, Like I just feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being closed dressed for so long, week in week out.

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<v Speaker 1>I like switch off my phone. No one effing talked

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Let me just do my thing with my guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, off we go. So that's how Colly you

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<v Speaker 1>do accupunct I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I actually found I used to do acupuncture

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<v Speaker 2>because I used to live in Brisbane and I had

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing acupunctress and then I moved and I stopped

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<v Speaker 2>doing it for a while because I couldn't find one,

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<v Speaker 2>and then recently I found one and she's amazing. She

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<v Speaker 2>like does that acupuncture and then she also gives you

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<v Speaker 2>a massage. And I'm someone who loves to be touched,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, ye ye, heaven feel.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell us more about I guess the motivational part

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<v Speaker 2>about what you do, because I guarantee there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people listening thinking, holy crap, this girl is insane.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously a lot has to do with discipline and

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<v Speaker 2>you wanting the thing you want. But talk to us

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Have you ever struggled with motivation to

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<v Speaker 2>continue this routine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I I definitely do. I'd be lying if

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<v Speaker 1>I said I didn't. And I think every athlete struggles

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<v Speaker 1>with motivation, right, But for me, it's kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm such a grateful person because growing up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're younger, you just kind of don't think about

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<v Speaker 1>the things that are given to you can't. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>used to just expect them, which is quite a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do, and quite you know, they're just actions

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<v Speaker 1>that shouldn't be a thing in my life. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not until there's someone out there that will humble you

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<v Speaker 1>that I realized, Wow, I should be grateful that I

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<v Speaker 1>can travel the world to run, and I should be

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<v Speaker 1>grateful that we do get put up in really nice hotels,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been to countries that some people wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>it would never even think about going to or even

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to go to. So for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's where my motivation comes from, is just all

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunities that come from athletics and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I can run and represent my country. There's just so

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<v Speaker 1>much to be grateful for. It's like, how can you

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<v Speaker 1>not be motivated? Right? But then at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely have days where I'm just like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>air am I doing? Like why am I even here?

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<v Speaker 1>But I've actually built up quite a good team around

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<v Speaker 1>me where you know, they'll just tell me, like get

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<v Speaker 1>your ass out of bed training or whatever, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just need that. I sometimes I just need people to

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<v Speaker 1>be real and raw and just say, come on, I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying me, or I'm here ready for you. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>be late, like show up on time. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>goal to, you know, get through, and that's obviously going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Olympics and running well. So for me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely comes down to just being grateful of having

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<v Speaker 1>a really good, strong team around you, which I had

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<v Speaker 1>to restart and kind of refresh my team back in

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<v Speaker 1>what was it mid twenty eighteen on my Europe trip

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<v Speaker 1>that was probably my all time low, and I just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>screw it, I'm going to change events. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get a new coach. She's going to be a female.

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<v Speaker 1>My manager is now a female as well. My sports

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<v Speaker 1>likes a female. And it's kind of cool. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>we've got this really good group of women that are

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<v Speaker 1>just so supportive of one another, and we're all on

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<v Speaker 1>the same page and stuff with what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do and where I want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, so I absolutely love that statement so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this podcast is clearly mostly women, So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that is super insightful for you to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you change your team, you looked at the people around you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that I think that's a great point

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<v Speaker 2>to touch on in regards to motivation, is having that

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<v Speaker 2>support system around you that really kind of like when

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<v Speaker 2>you can't motivate yourself, you have a team that really

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<v Speaker 2>supports and motivates you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure. I just it's something everyone needs, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially being in an individual sport. But it doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have to be sport, right, Like, it could be any

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of life, Like I think business, it's so important

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<v Speaker 1>to have a mentor there that's been through it and

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<v Speaker 1>done at all, because there's so much you can learn

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<v Speaker 1>from other people. Right But yeah, that's just what it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Important and tell us more, tell us more about the

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<v Speaker 2>concept of you having a team with mostly women around you.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a very kind of, you know, important thing

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Yeah, I think, to be honest, I like, growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been such a tomboy, right, Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I wore dress until I was about oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen or something crazy like that. So I've just always

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<v Speaker 1>been like, you know, one of the boys, like let's

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<v Speaker 1>just get dirty, let's get down into it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>real kind of masculine, and even in the lead up

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<v Speaker 1>to the Olympics, like my whole team was full of males.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the thing I finally realized was, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I feel like I can't have a voice, or

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be silenced just because I'm a female, or I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be called too emotional, She's too this, she's too that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, you know what, whenever I talk

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<v Speaker 1>to a woman about my issues, they get it. They

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<v Speaker 1>know what to say, they know how to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>my body, they know how to talk about periods and

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm feeling and why I'm feeling this way. And

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I hit like I said, after the Calm Games,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, get me the f out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just go and be a kid again. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it was like a light bulb moment where I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, I've talked to so many women that

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<v Speaker 1>have been so supportive. Fuck it, let's just go with

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<v Speaker 1>it and just you know, build this team of strong

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<v Speaker 1>women and to be honest, it's the happiest I've been

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<v Speaker 1>since I started athletics, which is it's quite sad when

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<v Speaker 1>I think about it, like I've done so much in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, but it's not until now where I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>been truly, truly happy to go out there and run.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm actually very thankful for them all. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's so important because, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>women get women and sometimes I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 1>been through it, but men just don't really want to

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<v Speaker 1>understand women and you're always butting heads, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any time to waste screw itt.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I absolutely love that, and like, I know, I

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<v Speaker 2>completely get you. Like even in my own business at

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<v Speaker 2>Naked Harvest, our team is mostly females, and my brother,

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<v Speaker 2>who co owns a company, he's like, can we stop

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<v Speaker 2>just and I'm like, females do it better. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think I also think that's quite important for you to

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<v Speaker 2>touch on that because you know, I think sport is

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<v Speaker 2>such a male dominant industry and oh, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>like your whole team was full of males, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's also quite important for you in regards to

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<v Speaker 2>having a team of women and you know, supporting them

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<v Speaker 2>and that way, and obviously you know it works for

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<v Speaker 2>you and your team and that sort of side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, thanks for touching on that. It's super insiteful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, before we move on and switch gears, i'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to just get a little a little insight. So obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you're an amazing inspirational athlete, and like you said, there

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<v Speaker 2>are so many amazing things to it, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there's also some hard parts. So what is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite thing about being an athlete? And then what

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<v Speaker 2>is the hardest part about being an athlete?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think my favorite part definitely obviously like running

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<v Speaker 1>PBS and making teams that have to be my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>part is just like, oh god, it's a whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>from yeh, running fast. Then you because you've run fast,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to make a team. Because you made a team,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to go, you know, to the Bahamas or

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<v Speaker 1>China or Germany or wherever that major championship is. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you get to like experience different cultures, which is

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<v Speaker 1>so important to learn how other people think and feel

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<v Speaker 1>and speak and act. So that's probably a pretty broad answer.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not just one thing I love, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely say the hardest part is just the criticism you

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<v Speaker 1>receive just even from stepping out there. You don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have to begin running and someone will already be commenting

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<v Speaker 1>on your body, you know what I mean. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like the hardest part is dealing with the

0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.200
<v Speaker 1>armchair critics that know nothing about track unless it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics and everyone's an expert. So yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>something I've struggled with. But I think I'm getting better

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<v Speaker 1>at as I get older. I just know how to

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<v Speaker 1>manage it and how to manage my emotions and not

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<v Speaker 1>let everything get to me. But yeah, I've had some

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<v Speaker 1>completely heartbreaking moments where people just take like they suck

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<v Speaker 1>the fun out of it, right, and then it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, well, shit, why do I represent Australia If

0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Australia doesn't even want to get around me or other

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<v Speaker 1>athletes because of the way I look in at Crop

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<v Speaker 1>Top and Undies. It's just wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, almost it's ridiculous, isn't it.

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.720
<v Speaker 1>It can be heartbreaking for sure, Yeah, just like it

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't make sense in my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And so let's talk about that, because, like you said, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're out there, you're ready to race, you're

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.359
<v Speaker 2>ready to run, you know, and you're an athlete, like

0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:26.399
<v Speaker 2>that is your job. And then for someone to criticize

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<v Speaker 2>you and talk about your body, it almost seems like

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<v Speaker 2>so left field. But also I feel like we're very

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<v Speaker 2>used to that in our culture and in the media.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you kind of chat about this aspect of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>body criticism and how you feel about it and how

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<v Speaker 2>you deal about it. I remember reading an article where

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<v Speaker 2>you did speak about this, and you did speak so

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<v Speaker 2>beautifully about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So I think I'd have to be start

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<v Speaker 1>off by being honest. And I think growing up we've

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>all experienced we've all bullied, and we've all been bullied.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll admit, like when I was younger, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of still want big boobs, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd be really jealous of girls that had bigger rest

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<v Speaker 1>of me, or you know, a smaller waist or longer hair.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just attack people for things that you don't have,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not until it actually happens to you that

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<v Speaker 1>you know. As I got older, I'm like, wow, I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't talk about women the way that other people

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.159
<v Speaker 1>talk about me because it's just horrible, right. And I

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<v Speaker 1>battled so much throughout my career with body weight and

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<v Speaker 1>all the issues around that, because when I'm in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season, I'd allow myself to gain eight kilos literally

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<v Speaker 1>in two weeks because I'm in off season, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to work, and then I'd get back into

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<v Speaker 1>season and if I have one bad race, people are

0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>commenting on my body. If I have one good race,

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:48.920
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, you know, she could lose a little

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:50.359
<v Speaker 1>bit of weight, but she still ran fast, which she

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense. And it got to the point and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even joking where oh my gosh, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>like Jesus, I'm like kind of cheering up. But it

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<v Speaker 1>got to the point where I would have to go

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<v Speaker 1>in for being my test once every four weeks because

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<v Speaker 1>of certain people that I had to deal with within

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.880
<v Speaker 1>athletics in OZ and it just got to the point

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<v Speaker 1>I get in there, the biomech dude would be in

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<v Speaker 1>there and I'd just start crying in front of him,

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<v Speaker 1>like shaking, too scared to go onto their scales because

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 1>more people were concerned with my image than my performance.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just thought, you know, once I started my

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<v Speaker 1>new team. My new coach has been so amazing. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't care what you look like. All I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to do is rock up to the track and

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:33.919
<v Speaker 1>hit the times I give you. And so it's kind

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>of nice when they actually give you back a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of you know, they hold you accountable and like,

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<v Speaker 1>just hit my times, nothing else matters. Then you do

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<v Speaker 1>start to think, okay, cool, I can eat healthy, I

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<v Speaker 1>can do this. I'm not gonna want to stress it

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and you kind of just get back to

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.199
<v Speaker 1>athletics because you want to run fast, not because it's

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the Victoria's Secret fashion show. And that was just huge

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 1>for me. I'm like, yeah, I don't care what I

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<v Speaker 1>look like as long as I'm running fast. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is anyone going to worry if I do? When the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics and I have cell You're like, no, they're gonna

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.400
<v Speaker 1>be like, damn, you want a gold medal. Who gives

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>a shit what she looks like. But you know, I

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like we struggle so much because, especially being a woman,

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, I don't know, it's like you're always

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.399
<v Speaker 1>in it. I'm always in a crop top and undies.

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 1>It's always a summer sport, so you always see me

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>in a bikini, which just opens a floodgate for people

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>to say what they want. It's really tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could only imagine. And I think I think also,

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 2>like like you said about feeling like, you know, this

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 2>is your sport, this is what you love to do,

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and then having to come at it with looking a

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 2>certain ways just like that. Yeah, like I can't I

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 2>can't even fathom that, especially already having the pressure, yeah,

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.640
<v Speaker 2>of making the times and then to look good. It's

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 2>just it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, the pressure.

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just insane. Like, but now I like, because I've

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 1>always had, you know, like one of my flaws, I

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>guess I would say it's just to sell. You're like,

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.919
<v Speaker 1>I get under my bum right, But now I'm kind

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of like mad who cares. Like it's kind of.

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, we all have we all have that, And

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a huge testament to you having that

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.199
<v Speaker 2>transformation in the way you think, because I you know,

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I think we can all agree as young women going

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 2>through that sort of stage in your life where you're

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 2>so conscious about how you look and how other people

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 2>perceive you, and then just getting to the point where

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 2>you're just like, what am I doing? And why do

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I care so much? And especially it's so it's so disappointing,

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.880
<v Speaker 2>especially because it's not like it's a health thing for you,

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 2>because you know, you're clearly running fast and like you said,

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 2>like winning gold medals, like it shouldn't matter what its

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 2>like you look like. But it's such like it's such

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 2>like a testament to the not a testament, but it's

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the typical sort of patriarch thing that oh no, she

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 2>also has to look good, like yeah, outrageous.

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 1>It just yeah, and it like I used to be

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.959
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with it, honestly, it was just so unhealthy. But

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>now I just think, Okay, I have both young male

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and female training partners who are going through that hormonal change,

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, with their bodies, girls getting their periods, boys

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>are growing really quick and they're always injured or whatever,

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and I just think I can't let them see me

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>worry about my body and what I look like. I

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>have to be really open and honest with Okay, this

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>is just what I'm going to look like today. Okay,

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I've got my period, I bloat a lot, I gained

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.199
<v Speaker 1>two kilos I'm gonna be a little bit sluggish and

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>just kind of rolling with it, because that's if I

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>can just honestly overcome that. It's just one less thing

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I have to worry about. And I want, you know,

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the kids in my squad to look at me and

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.360
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, Morgan doesn't care. Why should I care? Like, yeah,

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>why should you care? Just be happy? No.

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely love that, and I love that you said that,

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:00.679
<v Speaker 2>like you need to be a good role model and

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of lead by example in that way, because it

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 2>is so true. If we don't sort of take a stand,

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 2>then nothing's going to change. And I really love you

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>have a highlight on your Instagram with this amazing quote

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>that says, I don't care if I'm aesthetically pleasing, I

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>just want to run fast. And I just don't love

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 2>that so much because it's just so true.

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And like so many people just need to understand that

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>as well, you know what I mean, Because at the

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, we've all got flaws, So it's like,

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>who am I to attack someone else when there are

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>things that I wish I could change about my body,

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like, not one person is perfect,

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's a beauty in it. So but yeah, it's

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of nice. It only took our ears out of

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>my career to get to this point.

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Jesus No, I totally a feel you. I have like

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 2>a kind of a very similar history with where I'm

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>like looking back and thinking, holy shit, I wasted so

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 2>much time and energy on what I look like and

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it was just such a bloody waste. But I think

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's a lesson we all need to learn,

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 2>and how amazing that we've already learned it and we're

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, survering on.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 2>So, Morgan, we've chatted about you being an athlete and

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>also body image. I would love to touch on your

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 2>plant based diet, so I know that you eat a

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 2>plant based and I also saw you in the Game

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Changes documentary. Congratulations, Thank you. Can you tell us a

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit about your journey with veganism.

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I became vegan about five years ago, just before Christmas, right,

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 1>like my mum was, yeah, the say it. And it

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>was actually an ex at the time was he was

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 1>just so into his health and wellness and one day

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>he walks and he's like, we need to go vegan.

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I was just so sick of hearing all

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>these different diets. I was like, Okay, cool, you know,

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it. But for me, like I've never really

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>liked eggs, I don't. I don't think I really had

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of dairy anyway, Like I'm not cheese ubceessed

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>or anything. And I only really ate chicken and fish

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>anyway in the occasional burger. So for me, it was

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of an easy transition, right. And again, it took

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>me so long to get used to the vegan diet,

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't until I found my first Dietitian Lucy,

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 1>that she just completely changed my outlook. Like I didn't

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>realize I never ate beans until becoming vegan, Like beans

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>just weren't on the menu for me. Ever, obviously learned

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>what tofu was, and you know, lentils and satan and

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. So yeah, it was kind of it

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>was a long journey, but you know, good things have

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>come out of it, like the game changes, and to

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>be honest, that was just I look back now and

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, WHOA, because we shot in twenty sixteen. I

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>was twenty one when we shot, I know, So I

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>watched the movie and I'm like what the fuck.

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I think come about?

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>So it was actually piece. It was like a lake

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and she I remember I was in Germany at the

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>airport and I get this call from her and she

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>was telling me about this new documentary. You know, this

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>is twenty sixteen, it's about vegans. Would you like to

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>be a part of it? I'm like okay, like whatever,

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and then she dropped James Cameron's name, and he's obviously

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>done Titanic and Avatar and you know, he's like a

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>guru of movies. And I was like, yeah, bloody Oak,

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>like I'll come home right now. Screwed the Olympics. And

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, so we shot straight after the Olympics on

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>my holiday in So I was on a holiday in Hawaii,

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>but we had to shoot in la And for so

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>long I didn't really hear a lot about it since then,

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and then it kind of gained a little bit of

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, traction. And the guy was like, yeah, yeah,

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it's coming together, it's coming together. And I was like, well,

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of sound like a myth I haven't heard too much.

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And next minute it's like Arnold Schwartzenegger, Serena Williams, Jackie Chan,

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul like all of these huge names Lewis Hamilton,

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, have you got the right person? Like

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>should I am? I still even going to be in

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>there's like what the hell I saw? I said so much?

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so I went to the one of the

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>smaller premieres in Canada in twenty eighteen and I was

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>blown away by the docco and sure enough, like after

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>World Champs last year where my boyfriend and I are

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>at the premiere in Hollywood, and that, to me, it

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>was just insane, Like that was just one of the

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>coolest experiences of my life. It was just huge to think,

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>like a girl from Werribee is like, you know, in Hollywood,

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>meeting all these cool people watching herself on the movie

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>screen and yeah, it's just it's honestly been awesome And

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>it was so well put together and the cast was awesome,

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the crew was awesome. So yeah, definitely a cool experience.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>How bloody cool is that?

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Thank you?

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Now I watched the documentary and it was really good.

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I would also love to know, So what

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 2>sort of benefits did you notice from the coming plant based.

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>That's good, that's a good question. I would say for me,

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the number one thing was a recovery like I couldn't believe,

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was waking up. I wasn't sore right,

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>like I wouldn't need to ice, but I wouldn't need massages.

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I could just keep going all day. And another one

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>like another one. I like try to tell people about

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>is I used to get tonsualidis. Oh I glandular fever

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve. I got tonsilides probably twice a year

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 1>from twenty ten up until about up until going vegan.

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even joking when I say I haven't

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>been six since, like no word of a lie. I

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>have not been six since. I haven't had tonsliders since.

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>So I think there was obviously something in either like

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the meat or whatever I was eating that was just

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>screwing up my system and just the immune system. Yeah,

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, they're probably the two things. Is like

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm never sick, my recovery is insane, and my skin

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>is just so clear. I think that's honestly one of

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>my favorite parts. Like I just I don't really break

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>out unless it's my period. Sometimes I get that blind pimple,

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you get one on your chin you

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>can't see it. But having hurts that woman. Yeah, if

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>someone has a secret to get rid of that once

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>a month, great send it my way.

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I totally have one of those on my cheek right now.

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I either get my chin.

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so painful. I hate them. What the hell like,

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>at least come through if.

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>You're I know, don't just and then it's like sitting

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>there for like days and like what are you doing

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 2>that now? So amazing amazing, And I think also I'd

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>love to know, and this is like more of like

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.239
<v Speaker 2>a selfish thing, just because I would love to know

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 2>what does a day on the plate look like for you?

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Like tell us about what the sort of vegan meals

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>look like?

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you want in season or out of season?

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I am.

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I guess could you give us both?

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Is that I'm died? Yeah, I think I'll actually I'm

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>going to start a YouTube channel show people because I

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>think they'd be horrified. Really. Oh, Like, I just I

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>love food. I can seriously eat. It's kind of disgusting,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>but I mean it's also a hobby and it's a

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>bit of a talent. So in season I can't. I'm

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty simple, like I just do it because I really

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>don't like cooking, and I can't even like because my

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>friends would actually pull me up if I said I

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>love it. But if I'm not getting a Salara meal,

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>which is just those ready homemade ones, I'd probably just

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>do two blueberry bagels or two pieces of rye toast

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>with peanut butter, banana and maple syrup and blueberries. I'm

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>such a smoothie person, but I'm also so boring, like

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I have the exact same smoothie because I get everything

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I need and then I do so bananas, blueberries, spinach, chear, seeds,

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>water and dates. I don't really like to do plant

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>based milks, just because I'm trying to keep it a

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit more lighter. For lunch, I'm my dietician is

0:33:58.000 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>going to be like, I love your honesty, but we

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>need to I usually because I'm always training or going

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>in between sessions and I'm in the city, I'd probably

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>just stop somewhere and get lunch. So I probably just

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>go for like a tofu salad or usually a burrita

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>or a heavy sandwich if I'm actually lifting in the

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>gym at in the afternoon, because I just get so

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>so hungry. I'm always with a coffee or like I

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>will try and find you know, vegan cross on or

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>cookie just because I'm feeling sorry for myself and I

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>need a treat. And then dinner I'm obsessed with, like

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, Pastors Berger night, They're probably two of my favorites,

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>or just like a homemade fried rice and vegan dumplings.

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<v Speaker 1>I love, love, love dumplings. So yeah, like I try

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>to keep it flexible, but I'm also pretty boring. Like

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>once I'm in season, I just try to keep everything

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the same because I know what works. And then when

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm oh my gosh, when I'm in off season, it's

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>like glass of champagne for breakfast. I'm just kidding kind of, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends how deep into off season. I actually learned

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<v Speaker 1>how good that was on my Europe trip two years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I love so I'm for this, yeah, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>she eats. Oh yeah, part of about the champagne at breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that is so good. But yeah, like I'm such

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a big, big breakfast burrito girl. Sometimes I'll have to

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>at my favorite place in Phoenix It's called Nami. But yeah,

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>so after that, I love like biscuits and gravy donut

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and coffee for dinner. Like I'm not a huge pizza person,

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>so I probably go back to like burgers or you know,

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>like Mexican Night with the girls. But for me, it's

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 1>just like when I'm in off season, I just love

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>eating out with friends and then just like ordering every

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>single appetizer and then like four main meals and just

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:08.439
<v Speaker 1>going to town. So yeah, like, but that's a thing.

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Like my favorite Mexican play is Village canteena where I'm

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>in Melbourne, Like in Meraville, I'd literally get because I

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>have a vegan menu. I do like the burrito, two

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>of their tacos and a cassadia right, and people are like,

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>are you seriously going to eat that? Don't look at me,

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>don't judge me. I've only got two yeah, two to

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>four weeks to be who I am. Let me live.

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>And so with the whole eating with your off season

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and on season, why does the diet have to be

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 2>so considerably different. Is it just because you are running

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 2>every single day?

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's that. And it's definitely like just trying to

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>get the right fuel in and making sure I'm eating

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>my veggies and getting enough of the right calves and

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>all of that, because it really does show on the

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>track if I'm you know, if I do have a

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 1>night out. I mean, obviously alcohol's a little different, but

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>if I have just been eating fries for that week,

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I just I'm living off of oils and carbs, like

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>fats and carbs and it's just so totally never going

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to work out for me, especially the older I get.

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>So I do try to keep things a little bit

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>more you know, organic, a bit more fresh and all

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. And I think for me, it's like, yes,

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I love to eat healthy, but when it is a

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>part of your job and you've been doing it for

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>so long, as soon as I get a sniff of

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>off season, I'm just like, see.

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Yah, ready for the good food.

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and especially you know what Australia is like in summer,

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, and we have night noodle markets and

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>food and wine festivals. It's, oh my gosh, just so easy,

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>so good. No.

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I love that you're a foodie. I'm a total FRUITI Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about your goals and what you do. Obviously,

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 2>you have achieved so much at such a young age,

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 2>and obviously it's not by coincidence or chance. You work

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 2>very hard. But at the start you did mention about

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 2>visualizing your goals and you have a whole goals process.

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I would love to hear more about that. I'm a

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 2>bit of a like a nerd, but that sort of

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 2>side of things.

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, about my like my future goals or

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>how I go about it.

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 2>So when you're you know, preparing for a race, or

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 2>you do have quite a big goal, like going to

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>the Olympics, I know you spoke about like visualization, what

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:25.720
<v Speaker 2>does that look like for you?

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>So for me, it's probably more so drawing. I love

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>like pictures, and like I like to actually be visual

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and to see what I want. So yeah, I've got

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>like this little dream book that I have. Well it's

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of just it's like an art scrap book, but

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I call it a little dream book, and I'll like

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll stick photos in there of things that I want

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to achieve and want to do. But especially in the

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Olympic here, it's just honestly like meditation every single night

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 1>of me playing over playing the race over and over

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>in my head, and that just seems to work because

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>it's like your mind starts to trick itself into thinking, Okay,

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>this is exactly what she wants. She wants to go

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>out decently hard, like quite hard, and then she wants

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to relax down the back straight and come home strong.

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 1>When I was running in the four hundred, and honestly

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.839
<v Speaker 1>every race it was just like clockwork because I'd been

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>dreaming it for what was it, maybe twelve to sixteen

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>weeks straight. But for me, it's just like it's definitely

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that dream book. Oh my gosh, the things that are

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>in it and the things that I've done. It's like,

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, I had fourteen different things that I

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted to tick off, and I literally did twelve out

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of the fourteen. So yeah, that's why I just think

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>it's so important to visualize it. Insane. Yeah, it scared

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>me though, to be honest, I was like, whoa, Oh

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>my god, Like, what is this?

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>No, I think that's insane, And that's such like obviously

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 2>in a testament to the hard work. But having that

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 2>vision and I'm like, I'm throffing right now because I'm

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:58.919
<v Speaker 2>here on my computer and I've got a vision board

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 2>behind it, and I'm someone who I love to sit

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:07.879
<v Speaker 2>and meditate and really hold that. And I call them

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 2>like desires or the things. Yeah, really gender what would

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>it feel like? And you know, what how would I feel?

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>What would I be wearing? Where would I be laying out? Yeah,

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 2>And it sounds like when you say it out loud

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 2>and explainage people like it sounds almost a bit silly,

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>but like you said, you're really like training your brain

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and you're saying, look like this is what I want,

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 2>this is the future, this is what's going to happen,

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's almost like you're attracting it so much faster

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and quicker.

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like honestly, the things like you know obviously because

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you have a vision board and you've kicked girls. It's

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>just like when it happens, I'm honestly like just amazed,

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I just kind of think, yeah,

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>like surely not, this cannot be real, this cannot this

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>is not meant to work. But then it does, and

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of like become addicted, you know what

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.399
<v Speaker 2>When it works, you're like, holy crap, it works, and yeah, yeah,

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 2>of course you're like, yes, I want to do this more.

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's really funny you say that. Just the other day,

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I redid my vision ball because I had one from

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it was like twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen,

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 2>and it was an older one. And it's funny because

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I was taking all the pins off and I had

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 2>just like printed new I'm a Pinterest goal so yeah,

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>trust girth. And it's really funny because when I was

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 2>taking off the pins basically much like you, eighty to

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:35.320
<v Speaker 2>ninety percent of the pins and the things I wanted

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 2>to achieve are like are in my reality down to

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>like weird, yeah, like down to like weirdly like Pinterest

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 2>photos are obviously, you know, such like there's someone else's

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 2>reality reality, and I can think specifically of like the

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 2>house I was trying to manifest and like my house

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 2>looks so weirdly the same. I'm like, oh my god,

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 2>this is like bizarre. So I really love that you're

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 2>into it, and I really love that you use that,

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, for like winning I was about to say

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 2>winning a sport, but that sounds that's.

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>What you can tell.

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't watch much sport for me to say that line.

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, too funny.

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 2>No, that that's amazing, And I love that you do.

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 2>I love that you do that. I've actually heard that

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 2>about athletes is like really envisioning, like, you know, winning

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:29.879
<v Speaker 2>the event and doing that side of things, but I've

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 2>never actually spoken to them someone about it. That is

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>very cool. Yeah, definitely, And so Morgan, one last thing

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to chat about, and then I'm going to

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 2>let you go because I know it is late at

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 2>night there, but I would love to chat about racism,

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:52.320
<v Speaker 2>and so I know this is a super tender topic

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's something that in twenty twenty people are a

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 2>lot more conscious of, and it's you know, coming about

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 2>on social media and huge waves, and I think it's amazing.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>So I really wanted to have this conversation with you.

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 2>And I saw on Instagram you are quite passionate about

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 2>ending racism, from being involved to protests to amazing campaigns,

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 2>and you really spoke about first hand the heartache people

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 2>can face from horrible behavior. And I read on your

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Instagram you said staying silent means staying put, and I'm

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 2>sick of staying put. I absolutely love this line, and

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to ask you how you felt and

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 2>sort of your journey with coming to terms with this.

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I think obviously earlier in the year, especially

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>like the George Floyd thing just you know, ignited the

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 1>whole world. And in terms of that quote, it was

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of just like, there are so many small, different

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.799
<v Speaker 1>things throughout my life that I've had to experience from

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>being half black that are just so unfair. And it

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't until you've got you know, you kind of you

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>made it feel like you're the only one experiencing it

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and you can't really open up to anyone. And it

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't until those protests where you do see hundreds of

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 1>thousands of people coming out with their stories, and that

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>was the thing I thought far out, like, now's the

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>time to actually speak up, like I'm not scared anymore

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>because there are others out there like me, but who

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 1>are so supportive and just want to see, you know,

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>change in the world for the better, and like it's

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>honestly everywhere. And it's quite hard because people think, oh,

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 1>but you're an Olympian, you've been in a movie, You've

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>got nothing to worry about. I'm like, well, shit, I've

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 1>still been called d M word. People still stare at

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.799
<v Speaker 1>me when I have to go to events where I'm

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>actually the guest speaker, and honestly, it's not until I

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>speak and I tell them about my background and where

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I've come from and what I've done that then they

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>want to actually, you know, include me in their little

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>circle or give me their business cards and ask for

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>help to promote their business and stuff like that. And

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you just it's very hard to explain to people because

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't experience it, and then you

0:46:57.880 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>talk to a black person about it and they're like, damn,

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that's like me as well, Like no one really wants

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 1>to give you the time of day until like, oh shit,

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>she's an Olympian, like we better, you know, let's shower

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 1>her and everything, and it's like yeah, but I'm also

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 1>a human first, And I mean it's quite tough because

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>growing up, I went to a very good primary school

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that was actually very diverse, and my mom, she's white,

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 1>but she always taught me like just love from the heart.

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't matter what people look like. If

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they're nice, you'd be nice back. So it never I

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>just never understood why people are so mean to people

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.760
<v Speaker 1>just because of their skin color, Like it literally blows

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>my mind. Or they leave them out because of their

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>skin color, or you know. I was having this discussion

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 1>with one of the ladies from the Domor Project, who's

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the that's the charity that I've actually aligned myself with.

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Not so much of a charity, but it's like an

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 1>education type platform for people to speak on and so

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>other people can learn about. And I just said, like,

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.399
<v Speaker 1>it's hard being a woman, but honestly being a black woman.

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like people look at you like it's the worst

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:00.479
<v Speaker 1>thing ever. They're like, oh my gosh, she's a woman

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and she's black, like far out. And I've had that

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot in my life, and I'm kind of lucky

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 1>because I have had such a good support system. But

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm also quite strong in the sense that I don't

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think or want to let anyone get

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 1>in my way just because of how they see me,

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, versus how I see myself. But it's always

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a really tough topic to speak on because trying to

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>get like through to people that necessarily don't want to

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 1>understand or just simply don't get it and don't want

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to get it, it's quite heartbreaking because they don't really

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>like like it's they just don't know, like the setbacks

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and the tears, and you know, so many events that

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I haven't wanted to go to because I'm scared I'd

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>be looked at differently, or if I do go to

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 1>an event, I get called the token black girl, and

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like, shit, can I win? Like can I just

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>be here to be here? Am I allowed to just

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, be a person and not be judged from

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the based on the color of my skin or you

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>know whatever it is. So yeah, I mean it's a

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>long fight, but I just tell a lot of people,

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, look at the LGBTQ community and women's rights.

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Look how far they've come. I mean, obviously it took

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>a long time, but you know they're making progress and

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>they're getting somewhere. Why can't we So it is possible.

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>You just need a bit of heart. I think for.

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Sure, one hundred percent. I love I love also that

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 2>you spoke about kind of you know, the tokenism about

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 2>showing up at an event. And I think also, I

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 2>think in Australia I've noticed is it's also in the

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>sense of not even acknowledging it in the first place.

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my gosh. That part just kills me.

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, and it's like it's a really And then

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 2>so it's a really hard conversation to have because people

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 2>aren't even acknowledging in the first place, and it's it's

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 2>like a bit how can you even say.

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, yeah, and then just think it's okay, or

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>like the classic one I even hear is oh no,

0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm allowed to say it. I have a black friend.

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what I like that's just like that seriously

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:05.919
<v Speaker 1>blows my mind. Like if you have a black friend,

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 1>you should be standing up for them, not you know,

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>checking around the end word because you have a black friend.

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Like that just makes no sense to me whatsoever. Actually

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:16.360
<v Speaker 1>use your platform to you know, make a change. And

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, like we have a long way to go.

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I think in Australia, especially with Aboriginal people and their

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 1>culture that like, I've learned so much this year and

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just heartbreaking. Like my dad's black, he's from America,

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>He's African American. But then I feel like, you know,

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I've got to you know, I've got family over here.

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>But then I'm an Australian and I obviously need to

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 1>give back to the Aboriginal culture and want to learn

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>more and do better myself, just to be more inclusive

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and learn from them and just see, you know, the

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:48.919
<v Speaker 1>things that they've gone through. Like you know, don't don't

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:50.799
<v Speaker 1>hate them for being angry. You've got to ask why

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>they're angry. They're not just angry for no reason. So

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Clothing the Gap are doing such an amazing thing with

0:50:57.560 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 1>raising awareness about Aboriginal culture and you know the fact

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:03.439
<v Speaker 1>that someone actually owns the Aboriginal flag and the fact

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 1>they want it free so they can actually use it

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 1>on their clothing and whatever have you. It's just even

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that it's like, how does that owner in their heart

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.719
<v Speaker 1>keep the first flag of this country under wraps for

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 1>no one to use? You have to pay, like Aboriginal

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 1>people have to pay to use it? Are you serious?

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Like is this seriously what the world we live in?

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>It just blows my mind that people are so selfish.

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, there's just sutrageous, isn't it.

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's just so much that needs to be done.

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.279
<v Speaker 2>So much, And I would love to know you did

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 2>speak about that education platform that you're now aligned to do.

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to know if you. Yeah, so i'd love

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.799
<v Speaker 2>to know. Do you have any actionable tips for the listeners.

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Do you recommend them just going to the website or Yeah, I.

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:50.879
<v Speaker 1>Definitely go to the website to find out more because

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they can point you in like a million different directions.

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And same with clothing.

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 2>The gap amazing, Yeah, I just.

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Think Also it's like it's like, I mean, I have

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:00.959
<v Speaker 1>to do it every day, not so much in terms

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of racism, but other things. I really have to stop

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>myself before I judge someone and correct my thinking, right, like,

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>before you judge someone, just kind of think, why are

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you thinking that way? Why are you thinking that horrible

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>thought just because of the color of their skin, or

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 1>why do you feel uncomfortable? Like you have no reason,

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're just like it's kind of like you've got

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>to rewire your own brain first to even just take

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the next few steps and then even bigger steps. It's

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like signing petitions and asking your friends and looking on

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the websites and just seeing how you can, you know,

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.319
<v Speaker 1>do more, how you can help free the flag and

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of just make it more of an inclusive place

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 1>for everyone. And when I say like inclusive, and I

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:41.240
<v Speaker 1>mean safe and safe being that people don't feel awkward

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>when they rock up to events or you know, younger

0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 1>black kids can actually go to parties and sporting events

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>without being looked at weird or you know, told, oh,

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you're going to win this race because you're black. Like

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>it just none of that should even come into the conversation.

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Just let them be kids, or you know, let them

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 1>do their thing freely without being just by the color

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>of their skin. That it's so important because it stays

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 1>with you forever.

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, that is so important. I also I love what

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:13.920
<v Speaker 2>you said about sort of the first step of like

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 2>reevaluating and shifting your own thoughts and being like, hang on,

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 2>why am I judging that person? Or why am I

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 2>thinking differently of that person and really starting there.

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And like I think it's just also it

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:30.439
<v Speaker 1>comes down to vulnerability, Like you're allowed to say, Okay,

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I've made a few mistakes. You know. I applaud people

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that are like, wow, I used to be that way,

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 1>but I'm trying so hard to be a better person

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:40.799
<v Speaker 1>because we all make mistakes. You can't hate people for

0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:42.799
<v Speaker 1>making mistakes and doing the wrong thing when half the

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 1>time they don't even know it. But if you're making

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the effort to change, for me, it's just like a

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>huge tick. I just think it's awesome. And I love

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>people that are honest with themselves and just want to

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:53.759
<v Speaker 1>move forward, Like I just find that so admirable.

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred percent. And I love that you touched

0:53:56.120 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 2>on that. So Morgan, You've achieved so much already and

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 2>you've done so much. What is next for you?

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Quite funny, I don't know. Well, obviously the Olympics, not time. Yeah, yeah,

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like if they happen the Olympics and then I

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:18.399
<v Speaker 1>think I'm going to take like a good two month

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 1>break after it and just try and explore other avenues.

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 1>It's quite funny between you and I and like, oh,

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 1>obviously all your readers are readers listeners, sorry, because I'm

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>going to hear this. But it was a dream of mine.

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:31.759
<v Speaker 1>This is quite funny, Like always been a dream of

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 1>a dream of mine to reenact, like do a revamp

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:38.399
<v Speaker 1>of cat Woman, you know, halle Berry back in the day.

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to like get into acting and just be

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's like seriously, that's like the next thing in

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:48.399
<v Speaker 1>my dream book. Like I am obsessed with halle Berry.

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with that movie ever since I was little.

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm going to be the next cat Woman. Yeah,

0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and she looks so good for age, Oh my god.

0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ridiculous that it's yeah, I'm like featuring that movie

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 2>right now, Like watch that.

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so good, amazing, moving cool.

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh wow, we'll.

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Be watching Could you imagine? That would make my life?

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Like that's at the top of the bucket list, but

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I just can't act.

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, keep putting, like keep putting that in

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 2>your dream book.

0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Keep going yeah, oh my god, you're getting tickets to

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the premiere because we've talked about it.

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, okay, you have to do it now you

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 2>heard it here first.

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:33.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Actually, thank you so much for sharing that with us.

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:37.800
<v Speaker 2>That's super and I love.

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 1>It so amazing. Yes, okay, we'll see. Well, we'll be watching.

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 2>The waiting and cheering you on from the sideline, whether

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:50.320
<v Speaker 2>it's the Olympics or Catwoman.

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>So funny.

0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well again, sorry to wrap up this interview, and

0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, firstly, thank you so much

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 2>for your time. You have been an absolute delight. But

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 2>to wrap up this interview, another question that I ask

0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:11.560
<v Speaker 2>all my Season three guests, and I'm here, I'm looking

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 2>for a bit of a pep talk and I'm sure

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:14.759
<v Speaker 2>you'll give us a good one.

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Basically, get ready for your inner coach to come out.

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:24.400
<v Speaker 2>But what do you tell yourself when you're stepping out

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:27.840
<v Speaker 2>of your comfort zone into the unknown and it feels

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 2>very uncomfortable. How do you sort of push yourself to

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:32.359
<v Speaker 2>do it?

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh? See, the first thing that came to my mind

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:40.839
<v Speaker 1>was like, don't shoot yourself, but I would probably say, oh,

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 1>that's such a good one. For me. The first thing

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I've always been told is breathe, breathe, and my mum

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 1>drilled it into my head, like you just have to

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>repeat if you don't know, if you don't try, you

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:57.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know, you know what I mean. So, yes, that's

0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that's weird. Is perfect? Yeah for me, that's that's I mean.

0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know if people want more, but

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just been so easy for me to be like,

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:06.879
<v Speaker 1>well shit, I mean, you don't know if you don't

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:08.399
<v Speaker 1>try it, so you might as well just get into it.

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:12.240
<v Speaker 1>But yet they're always going to start with breathing, for sure,

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:14.960
<v Speaker 1>because as soon as you tense up, everything falls to pieces.

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 1>But if you're in the moment and breathing, I'm just

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 1>going for it, you know, like life's too short. Especially

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 1>this year, I think we've all learned just take risks.

0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 1>You've got nothing to lose. So yeah, that's probably what

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I would say, just plain and simple. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I bloody love it. Well, Morgan, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I have enjoyed this conversation so much,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, good luck with everything, and we cannot wait

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<v Speaker 2>to watch you and see you do amazing things.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome. Thank you so much for having me Georgie. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is it for today's episode. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>no there's all the tough drinks, the