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Speaker 2: Was gone something finally make hello and welcome back to

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Speaker 2: the Rise and Conquered Podcasts. This is a podcast for

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Speaker 2: women who want to take control of their lives, gain

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Speaker 2: Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur and personal development junkie

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Speaker 2: In today's conversation, I'm sitting down with Olympian runner Morgan Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Morgan is a plant based Olympian runner who has achieved

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Speaker 2: her experience being featured on the well known documentary Game Changes.

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Speaker 2: Hello Morgan, and welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for having me. I'm super excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So my name is Morgan. I just turned twenty six.

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Speaker 1: in for being my test once every four weeks because

433
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Speaker 1: of certain people that I had to deal with within

434
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 1: athletics in OZ and it just got to the point

435
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: I get in there, the biomech dude would be in

436
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: there and I'd just start crying in front of him,

437
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: like shaking, too scared to go onto their scales because

438
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: more people were concerned with my image than my performance.

439
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: And I just thought, you know, once I started my

440
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 1: new team. My new coach has been so amazing. She's like,

441
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't care what you look like. All I need

442
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: you to do is rock up to the track and

443
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: hit the times I give you. And so it's kind

444
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: of nice when they actually give you back a little

445
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: bit of you know, they hold you accountable and like,

446
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: just hit my times, nothing else matters. Then you do

447
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: start to think, okay, cool, I can eat healthy, I

448
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: can do this. I'm not gonna want to stress it

449
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you kind of just get back to

450
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: athletics because you want to run fast, not because it's

451
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: the Victoria's Secret fashion show. And that was just huge

452
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: for me. I'm like, yeah, I don't care what I

453
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: look like as long as I'm running fast. I mean,

454
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Speaker 1: is anyone going to worry if I do? When the

455
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: Olympics and I have cell You're like, no, they're gonna

456
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: be like, damn, you want a gold medal. Who gives

457
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: a shit what she looks like. But you know, I

458
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: feel like we struggle so much because, especially being a woman,

459
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: it's just like, I don't know, it's like you're always

460
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: in it. I'm always in a crop top and undies.

461
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: It's always a summer sport, so you always see me

462
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: in a bikini, which just opens a floodgate for people

463
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: to say what they want. It's really tough.

464
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could only imagine. And I think I think also,

465
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: like like you said about feeling like, you know, this

466
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: is your sport, this is what you love to do,

467
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: and then having to come at it with looking a

468
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: certain ways just like that. Yeah, like I can't I

469
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 2: can't even fathom that, especially already having the pressure, yeah,

470
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: of making the times and then to look good. It's

471
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: just it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, the pressure.

472
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: It's just insane. Like, but now I like, because I've

473
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: always had, you know, like one of my flaws, I

474
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: guess I would say it's just to sell. You're like,

475
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: I get under my bum right, But now I'm kind

476
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: of like mad who cares. Like it's kind of.

477
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: Just yeah, we all have we all have that, And

478
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 2: I think that's a huge testament to you having that

479
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 2: transformation in the way you think, because I you know,

480
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: I think we can all agree as young women going

481
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: through that sort of stage in your life where you're

482
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: so conscious about how you look and how other people

483
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: perceive you, and then just getting to the point where

484
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: you're just like, what am I doing? And why do

485
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: I care so much? And especially it's so it's so disappointing,

486
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 2: especially because it's not like it's a health thing for you,

487
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: because you know, you're clearly running fast and like you said,

488
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: like winning gold medals, like it shouldn't matter what its

489
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: like you look like. But it's such like it's such

490
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: like a testament to the not a testament, but it's

491
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: the typical sort of patriarch thing that oh no, she

492
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: also has to look good, like yeah, outrageous.

493
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: It just yeah, and it like I used to be

494
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 1: obsessed with it, honestly, it was just so unhealthy. But

495
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: now I just think, Okay, I have both young male

496
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: and female training partners who are going through that hormonal change,

497
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, with their bodies, girls getting their periods, boys

498
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: are growing really quick and they're always injured or whatever,

499
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: and I just think I can't let them see me

500
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: worry about my body and what I look like. I

501
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: have to be really open and honest with Okay, this

502
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: is just what I'm going to look like today. Okay,

503
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: I've got my period, I bloat a lot, I gained

504
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: two kilos I'm gonna be a little bit sluggish and

505
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: just kind of rolling with it, because that's if I

506
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: can just honestly overcome that. It's just one less thing

507
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: I have to worry about. And I want, you know,

508
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: the kids in my squad to look at me and

509
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: be like, oh, Morgan doesn't care. Why should I care? Like, yeah,

510
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: why should you care? Just be happy? No.

511
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Speaker 2: I absolutely love that, and I love that you said that,

512
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: like you need to be a good role model and

513
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: kind of lead by example in that way, because it

514
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: is so true. If we don't sort of take a stand,

515
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: then nothing's going to change. And I really love you

516
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: have a highlight on your Instagram with this amazing quote

517
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: that says, I don't care if I'm aesthetically pleasing, I

518
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: just want to run fast. And I just don't love

519
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: that so much because it's just so true.

520
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: And like so many people just need to understand that

521
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: as well, you know what I mean, Because at the

522
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: end of the day, we've all got flaws, So it's like,

523
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: who am I to attack someone else when there are

524
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: things that I wish I could change about my body,

525
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, not one person is perfect,

526
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: and that's a beauty in it. So but yeah, it's

527
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: kind of nice. It only took our ears out of

528
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: my career to get to this point.

529
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Speaker 2: Jesus No, I totally a feel you. I have like

530
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: a kind of a very similar history with where I'm

531
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 2: like looking back and thinking, holy shit, I wasted so

532
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: much time and energy on what I look like and

533
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: it was just such a bloody waste. But I think

534
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's a lesson we all need to learn,

535
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: and how amazing that we've already learned it and we're

536
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: you know, survering on.

537
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: Okay.

538
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: So, Morgan, we've chatted about you being an athlete and

539
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: also body image. I would love to touch on your

540
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: plant based diet, so I know that you eat a

541
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: plant based and I also saw you in the Game

542
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: Changes documentary. Congratulations, Thank you. Can you tell us a

543
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: little bit about your journey with veganism.

544
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I became vegan about five years ago, just before Christmas, right,

545
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: like my mum was, yeah, the say it. And it

546
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: was actually an ex at the time was he was

547
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: just so into his health and wellness and one day

548
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: he walks and he's like, we need to go vegan.

549
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: I think I was just so sick of hearing all

550
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: these different diets. I was like, Okay, cool, you know,

551
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: I'll do it. But for me, like I've never really

552
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: liked eggs, I don't. I don't think I really had

553
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: a lot of dairy anyway, Like I'm not cheese ubceessed

554
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: or anything. And I only really ate chicken and fish

555
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: anyway in the occasional burger. So for me, it was

556
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: kind of an easy transition, right. And again, it took

557
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: me so long to get used to the vegan diet,

558
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: but it wasn't until I found my first Dietitian Lucy,

559
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: that she just completely changed my outlook. Like I didn't

560
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: realize I never ate beans until becoming vegan, Like beans

561
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: just weren't on the menu for me. Ever, obviously learned

562
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: what tofu was, and you know, lentils and satan and

563
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So yeah, it was kind of it

564
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: was a long journey, but you know, good things have

565
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: come out of it, like the game changes, and to

566
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: be honest, that was just I look back now and

567
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, WHOA, because we shot in twenty sixteen. I

568
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: was twenty one when we shot, I know, So I

569
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: watched the movie and I'm like what the fuck.

570
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: I think come about?

571
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: So it was actually piece. It was like a lake

572
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: and she I remember I was in Germany at the

573
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: airport and I get this call from her and she

574
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: was telling me about this new documentary. You know, this

575
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: is twenty sixteen, it's about vegans. Would you like to

576
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: be a part of it? I'm like okay, like whatever,

577
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: and then she dropped James Cameron's name, and he's obviously

578
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: done Titanic and Avatar and you know, he's like a

579
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: guru of movies. And I was like, yeah, bloody Oak,

580
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: like I'll come home right now. Screwed the Olympics. And

581
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: then yeah, so we shot straight after the Olympics on

582
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: my holiday in So I was on a holiday in Hawaii,

583
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: but we had to shoot in la And for so

584
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: long I didn't really hear a lot about it since then,

585
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: and then it kind of gained a little bit of

586
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, traction. And the guy was like, yeah, yeah,

587
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: it's coming together, it's coming together. And I was like, well,

588
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: kind of sound like a myth I haven't heard too much.

589
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: And next minute it's like Arnold Schwartzenegger, Serena Williams, Jackie Chan,

590
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: Chris Paul like all of these huge names Lewis Hamilton,

591
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, have you got the right person? Like

592
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: should I am? I still even going to be in

593
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: there's like what the hell I saw? I said so much?

594
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I went to the one of the

595
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: smaller premieres in Canada in twenty eighteen and I was

596
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: blown away by the docco and sure enough, like after

597
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: World Champs last year where my boyfriend and I are

598
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: at the premiere in Hollywood, and that, to me, it

599
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: was just insane, Like that was just one of the

600
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: coolest experiences of my life. It was just huge to think,

601
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: like a girl from Werribee is like, you know, in Hollywood,

602
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: meeting all these cool people watching herself on the movie

603
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: screen and yeah, it's just it's honestly been awesome And

604
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: it was so well put together and the cast was awesome,

605
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: the crew was awesome. So yeah, definitely a cool experience.

606
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: How bloody cool is that?

607
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Thank you?

608
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: Now I watched the documentary and it was really good.

609
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would also love to know, So what

610
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: sort of benefits did you notice from the coming plant based.

611
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: That's good, that's a good question. I would say for me,

612
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: the number one thing was a recovery like I couldn't believe,

613
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, I was waking up. I wasn't sore right,

614
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't need to ice, but I wouldn't need massages.

615
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: I could just keep going all day. And another one

616
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: like another one. I like try to tell people about

617
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: is I used to get tonsualidis. Oh I glandular fever

618
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. I got tonsilides probably twice a year

619
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: from twenty ten up until about up until going vegan.

620
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not even joking when I say I haven't

621
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: been six since, like no word of a lie. I

622
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: have not been six since. I haven't had tonsliders since.

623
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: So I think there was obviously something in either like

624
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: the meat or whatever I was eating that was just

625
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: screwing up my system and just the immune system. Yeah,

626
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: and so yeah, they're probably the two things. Is like

627
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm never sick, my recovery is insane, and my skin

628
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: is just so clear. I think that's honestly one of

629
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: my favorite parts. Like I just I don't really break

630
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: out unless it's my period. Sometimes I get that blind pimple,

631
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, when you get one on your chin you

632
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: can't see it. But having hurts that woman. Yeah, if

633
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: someone has a secret to get rid of that once

634
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: a month, great send it my way.

635
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: I totally have one of those on my cheek right now.

636
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: I either get my chin.

637
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so painful. I hate them. What the hell like,

638
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: at least come through if.

639
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: You're I know, don't just and then it's like sitting

640
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: there for like days and like what are you doing

641
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: that now? So amazing amazing, And I think also I'd

642
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: love to know, and this is like more of like

643
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 2: a selfish thing, just because I would love to know

644
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: what does a day on the plate look like for you?

645
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: Like tell us about what the sort of vegan meals

646
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Speaker 2: look like?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you want in season or out of season?

648
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Speaker 1: Because I am.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I guess could you give us both?

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Speaker 1: Is that I'm died? Yeah, I think I'll actually I'm

651
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Speaker 1: going to start a YouTube channel show people because I

652
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Speaker 1: think they'd be horrified. Really. Oh, Like, I just I

653
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Speaker 1: love food. I can seriously eat. It's kind of disgusting,

654
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Speaker 1: but I mean it's also a hobby and it's a

655
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Speaker 1: bit of a talent. So in season I can't. I'm

656
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Speaker 1: pretty simple, like I just do it because I really

657
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Speaker 1: don't like cooking, and I can't even like because my

658
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: friends would actually pull me up if I said I

659
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Speaker 1: love it. But if I'm not getting a Salara meal,

660
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Speaker 1: which is just those ready homemade ones, I'd probably just

661
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Speaker 1: do two blueberry bagels or two pieces of rye toast

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Speaker 1: with peanut butter, banana and maple syrup and blueberries. I'm

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Speaker 1: such a smoothie person, but I'm also so boring, like

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Speaker 1: I have the exact same smoothie because I get everything

665
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Speaker 1: I need and then I do so bananas, blueberries, spinach, chear, seeds,

666
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Speaker 1: water and dates. I don't really like to do plant

667
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Speaker 1: based milks, just because I'm trying to keep it a

668
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Speaker 1: little bit more lighter. For lunch, I'm my dietician is

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Speaker 1: going to be like, I love your honesty, but we

670
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Speaker 1: need to I usually because I'm always training or going

671
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Speaker 1: in between sessions and I'm in the city, I'd probably

672
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Speaker 1: just stop somewhere and get lunch. So I probably just

673
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Speaker 1: go for like a tofu salad or usually a burrita

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Speaker 1: or a heavy sandwich if I'm actually lifting in the

675
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Speaker 1: gym at in the afternoon, because I just get so

676
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Speaker 1: so hungry. I'm always with a coffee or like I

677
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Speaker 1: will try and find you know, vegan cross on or

678
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Speaker 1: cookie just because I'm feeling sorry for myself and I

679
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Speaker 1: need a treat. And then dinner I'm obsessed with, like

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Speaker 1: you know, Pastors Berger night, They're probably two of my favorites,

681
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Speaker 1: or just like a homemade fried rice and vegan dumplings.

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Speaker 1: I love, love, love dumplings. So yeah, like I try

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Speaker 1: to keep it flexible, but I'm also pretty boring. Like

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Speaker 1: once I'm in season, I just try to keep everything

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Speaker 1: the same because I know what works. And then when

686
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Speaker 1: I'm oh my gosh, when I'm in off season, it's

687
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Speaker 1: like glass of champagne for breakfast. I'm just kidding kind of, don't.

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Speaker 1: It depends how deep into off season. I actually learned

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Speaker 1: how good that was on my Europe trip two years ago.

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Speaker 3: I love so I'm for this, yeah, but I would

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Speaker 2: she eats. Oh yeah, part of about the champagne at breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that is so good. But yeah, like I'm such

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Speaker 1: a big, big breakfast burrito girl. Sometimes I'll have to

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Speaker 1: at my favorite place in Phoenix It's called Nami. But yeah,

729
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Speaker 1: so after that, I love like biscuits and gravy donut

730
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Speaker 1: and coffee for dinner. Like I'm not a huge pizza person,

731
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Speaker 1: so I probably go back to like burgers or you know,

732
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Speaker 1: like Mexican Night with the girls. But for me, it's

733
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Speaker 1: just like when I'm in off season, I just love

734
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Speaker 1: eating out with friends and then just like ordering every

735
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Speaker 1: single appetizer and then like four main meals and just

736
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Speaker 1: going to town. So yeah, like, but that's a thing.

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Speaker 1: Like my favorite Mexican play is Village canteena where I'm

738
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Speaker 1: in Melbourne, Like in Meraville, I'd literally get because I

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Speaker 1: have a vegan menu. I do like the burrito, two

740
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Speaker 1: of their tacos and a cassadia right, and people are like,

741
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Speaker 1: are you seriously going to eat that? Don't look at me,

742
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Speaker 1: don't judge me. I've only got two yeah, two to

743
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Speaker 1: four weeks to be who I am. Let me live.

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Speaker 2: And so with the whole eating with your off season

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Speaker 2: and on season, why does the diet have to be

746
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Speaker 2: so considerably different. Is it just because you are running

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Speaker 2: every single day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that. And it's definitely like just trying to

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Speaker 1: get the right fuel in and making sure I'm eating

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Speaker 1: my veggies and getting enough of the right calves and

751
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Speaker 1: all of that, because it really does show on the

752
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Speaker 1: track if I'm you know, if I do have a

753
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Speaker 1: night out. I mean, obviously alcohol's a little different, but

754
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Speaker 1: if I have just been eating fries for that week,

755
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I just I'm living off of oils and carbs, like

756
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: fats and carbs and it's just so totally never going

757
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Speaker 1: to work out for me, especially the older I get.

758
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Speaker 1: So I do try to keep things a little bit

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Speaker 1: more you know, organic, a bit more fresh and all

760
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Speaker 1: of that stuff. And I think for me, it's like, yes,

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Speaker 1: I love to eat healthy, but when it is a

762
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Speaker 1: part of your job and you've been doing it for

763
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Speaker 1: so long, as soon as I get a sniff of

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Speaker 1: off season, I'm just like, see.

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Speaker 2: Yah, ready for the good food.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially you know what Australia is like in summer,

767
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, and we have night noodle markets and

768
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Speaker 1: food and wine festivals. It's, oh my gosh, just so easy,

769
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Speaker 1: so good. No.

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Speaker 2: I love that you're a foodie. I'm a total FRUITI Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about your goals and what you do. Obviously,

772
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: you have achieved so much at such a young age,

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Speaker 2: and obviously it's not by coincidence or chance. You work

774
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Speaker 2: very hard. But at the start you did mention about

775
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Speaker 2: visualizing your goals and you have a whole goals process.

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Speaker 2: I would love to hear more about that. I'm a

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Speaker 2: bit of a like a nerd, but that sort of

778
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Speaker 2: side of things.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, about my like my future goals or

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Speaker 1: how I go about it.

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Speaker 2: So when you're you know, preparing for a race, or

782
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Speaker 2: you do have quite a big goal, like going to

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Speaker 2: the Olympics, I know you spoke about like visualization, what

784
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Speaker 2: does that look like for you?

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Speaker 1: So for me, it's probably more so drawing. I love

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Speaker 1: like pictures, and like I like to actually be visual

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Speaker 1: and to see what I want. So yeah, I've got

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Speaker 1: like this little dream book that I have. Well it's

789
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Speaker 1: kind of just it's like an art scrap book, but

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Speaker 1: I call it a little dream book, and I'll like

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Speaker 1: I'll stick photos in there of things that I want

792
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Speaker 1: to achieve and want to do. But especially in the

793
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Speaker 1: Olympic here, it's just honestly like meditation every single night

794
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Speaker 1: of me playing over playing the race over and over

795
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Speaker 1: in my head, and that just seems to work because

796
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Speaker 1: it's like your mind starts to trick itself into thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is exactly what she wants. She wants to go

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Speaker 1: out decently hard, like quite hard, and then she wants

799
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Speaker 1: to relax down the back straight and come home strong.

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Speaker 1: When I was running in the four hundred, and honestly

801
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: every race it was just like clockwork because I'd been

802
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: dreaming it for what was it, maybe twelve to sixteen

803
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Speaker 1: weeks straight. But for me, it's just like it's definitely

804
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Speaker 1: that dream book. Oh my gosh, the things that are

805
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Speaker 1: in it and the things that I've done. It's like,

806
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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, I had fourteen different things that I

807
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Speaker 1: wanted to tick off, and I literally did twelve out

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Speaker 1: of the fourteen. So yeah, that's why I just think

809
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Speaker 1: it's so important to visualize it. Insane. Yeah, it scared

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Speaker 1: me though, to be honest, I was like, whoa, Oh

811
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Speaker 1: my god, Like, what is this?

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's insane, And that's such like obviously

813
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: in a testament to the hard work. But having that

814
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Speaker 2: vision and I'm like, I'm throffing right now because I'm

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Speaker 2: here on my computer and I've got a vision board

816
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Speaker 2: behind it, and I'm someone who I love to sit

817
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: and meditate and really hold that. And I call them

818
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: like desires or the things. Yeah, really gender what would

819
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Speaker 2: it feel like? And you know, what how would I feel?

820
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Speaker 2: What would I be wearing? Where would I be laying out? Yeah,

821
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Speaker 2: And it sounds like when you say it out loud

822
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Speaker 2: and explainage people like it sounds almost a bit silly,

823
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Speaker 2: but like you said, you're really like training your brain

824
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Speaker 2: and you're saying, look like this is what I want,

825
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Speaker 2: this is the future, this is what's going to happen,

826
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Speaker 2: and it's almost like you're attracting it so much faster

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Speaker 2: and quicker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like honestly, the things like you know obviously because

829
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Speaker 1: you have a vision board and you've kicked girls. It's

830
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Speaker 1: just like when it happens, I'm honestly like just amazed,

831
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just kind of think, yeah,

832
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: like surely not, this cannot be real, this cannot this

833
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: is not meant to work. But then it does, and

834
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Speaker 1: you just kind of like become addicted, you know what

835
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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: When it works, you're like, holy crap, it works, and yeah, yeah,

837
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Speaker 2: of course you're like, yes, I want to do this more.

838
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Speaker 2: And it's really funny you say that. Just the other day,

839
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Speaker 2: I redid my vision ball because I had one from

840
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Speaker 2: I think it was like twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen,

841
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: and it was an older one. And it's funny because

842
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: I was taking all the pins off and I had

843
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: just like printed new I'm a Pinterest goal so yeah,

844
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Speaker 2: trust girth. And it's really funny because when I was

845
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Speaker 2: taking off the pins basically much like you, eighty to

846
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Speaker 2: ninety percent of the pins and the things I wanted

847
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: to achieve are like are in my reality down to

848
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: like weird, yeah, like down to like weirdly like Pinterest

849
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: photos are obviously, you know, such like there's someone else's

850
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Speaker 2: reality reality, and I can think specifically of like the

851
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: house I was trying to manifest and like my house

852
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: looks so weirdly the same. I'm like, oh my god,

853
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: this is like bizarre. So I really love that you're

854
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: into it, and I really love that you use that,

855
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: you know, for like winning I was about to say

856
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Speaker 2: winning a sport, but that sounds that's.

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Speaker 1: What you can tell.

858
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't watch much sport for me to say that line.

859
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, too funny.

860
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: No, that that's amazing, And I love that you do.

861
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: I love that you do that. I've actually heard that

862
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: about athletes is like really envisioning, like, you know, winning

863
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: the event and doing that side of things, but I've

864
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: never actually spoken to them someone about it. That is

865
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: very cool. Yeah, definitely, And so Morgan, one last thing

866
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: I want to chat about, and then I'm going to

867
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: let you go because I know it is late at

868
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: night there, but I would love to chat about racism,

869
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 2: and so I know this is a super tender topic

870
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: and it's something that in twenty twenty people are a

871
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: lot more conscious of, and it's you know, coming about

872
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: on social media and huge waves, and I think it's amazing.

873
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: So I really wanted to have this conversation with you.

874
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: And I saw on Instagram you are quite passionate about

875
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: ending racism, from being involved to protests to amazing campaigns,

876
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: and you really spoke about first hand the heartache people

877
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: can face from horrible behavior. And I read on your

878
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: Instagram you said staying silent means staying put, and I'm

879
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: sick of staying put. I absolutely love this line, and

880
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask you how you felt and

881
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: sort of your journey with coming to terms with this.

882
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think obviously earlier in the year, especially

883
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: like the George Floyd thing just you know, ignited the

884
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: whole world. And in terms of that quote, it was

885
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of just like, there are so many small, different

886
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: things throughout my life that I've had to experience from

887
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: being half black that are just so unfair. And it

888
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: wasn't until you've got you know, you kind of you

889
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: made it feel like you're the only one experiencing it

890
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: and you can't really open up to anyone. And it

891
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: wasn't until those protests where you do see hundreds of

892
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: thousands of people coming out with their stories, and that

893
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: was the thing I thought far out, like, now's the

894
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: time to actually speak up, like I'm not scared anymore

895
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: because there are others out there like me, but who

896
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: are so supportive and just want to see, you know,

897
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: change in the world for the better, and like it's

898
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: honestly everywhere. And it's quite hard because people think, oh,

899
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: but you're an Olympian, you've been in a movie, You've

900
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: got nothing to worry about. I'm like, well, shit, I've

901
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: still been called d M word. People still stare at

902
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: me when I have to go to events where I'm

903
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: actually the guest speaker, and honestly, it's not until I

904
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: speak and I tell them about my background and where

905
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: I've come from and what I've done that then they

906
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: want to actually, you know, include me in their little

907
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: circle or give me their business cards and ask for

908
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: help to promote their business and stuff like that. And

909
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: you just it's very hard to explain to people because

910
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't experience it, and then you

911
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: talk to a black person about it and they're like, damn,

912
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: that's like me as well, Like no one really wants

913
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: to give you the time of day until like, oh shit,

914
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: she's an Olympian, like we better, you know, let's shower

915
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: her and everything, and it's like yeah, but I'm also

916
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: a human first, And I mean it's quite tough because

917
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: growing up, I went to a very good primary school

918
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: that was actually very diverse, and my mom, she's white,

919
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: but she always taught me like just love from the heart.

920
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter what people look like. If

921
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: they're nice, you'd be nice back. So it never I

922
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: just never understood why people are so mean to people

923
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: just because of their skin color, Like it literally blows

924
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: my mind. Or they leave them out because of their

925
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: skin color, or you know. I was having this discussion

926
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: with one of the ladies from the Domor Project, who's

927
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: the that's the charity that I've actually aligned myself with.

928
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: Not so much of a charity, but it's like an

929
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: education type platform for people to speak on and so

930
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: other people can learn about. And I just said, like,

931
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: it's hard being a woman, but honestly being a black woman.

932
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: It's like people look at you like it's the worst

933
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 1: thing ever. They're like, oh my gosh, she's a woman

934
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: and she's black, like far out. And I've had that

935
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: a lot in my life, and I'm kind of lucky

936
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: because I have had such a good support system. But

937
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm also quite strong in the sense that I don't

938
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: I just don't think or want to let anyone get

939
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: in my way just because of how they see me,

940
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, versus how I see myself. But it's always

941
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: a really tough topic to speak on because trying to

942
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: get like through to people that necessarily don't want to

943
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: understand or just simply don't get it and don't want

944
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: to get it, it's quite heartbreaking because they don't really

945
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: like like it's they just don't know, like the setbacks

946
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: and the tears, and you know, so many events that

947
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: I haven't wanted to go to because I'm scared I'd

948
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: be looked at differently, or if I do go to

949
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: an event, I get called the token black girl, and

950
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: it's like, shit, can I win? Like can I just

951
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: be here to be here? Am I allowed to just

952
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: you know, be a person and not be judged from

953
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: the based on the color of my skin or you

954
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: know whatever it is. So yeah, I mean it's a

955
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: long fight, but I just tell a lot of people,

956
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, look at the LGBTQ community and women's rights.

957
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: Look how far they've come. I mean, obviously it took

958
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: a long time, but you know they're making progress and

959
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: they're getting somewhere. Why can't we So it is possible.

960
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: You just need a bit of heart. I think for.

961
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: Sure, one hundred percent. I love I love also that

962
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: you spoke about kind of you know, the tokenism about

963
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: showing up at an event. And I think also, I

964
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: think in Australia I've noticed is it's also in the

965
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: sense of not even acknowledging it in the first place.

966
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. That part just kills me.

967
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: Like yeah, and it's like it's a really And then

968
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: so it's a really hard conversation to have because people

969
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: aren't even acknowledging in the first place, and it's it's

970
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: like a bit how can you even say.

971
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: That, yeah, yeah, and then just think it's okay, or

972
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: like the classic one I even hear is oh no,

973
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say it. I have a black friend.

974
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, what I like that's just like that seriously

975
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: blows my mind. Like if you have a black friend,

976
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: you should be standing up for them, not you know,

977
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: checking around the end word because you have a black friend.

978
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: Like that just makes no sense to me whatsoever. Actually

979
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: use your platform to you know, make a change. And

980
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, like we have a long way to go.

981
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: I think in Australia, especially with Aboriginal people and their

982
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: culture that like, I've learned so much this year and

983
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: it's just heartbreaking. Like my dad's black, he's from America,

984
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: He's African American. But then I feel like, you know,

985
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: I've got to you know, I've got family over here.

986
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: But then I'm an Australian and I obviously need to

987
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: give back to the Aboriginal culture and want to learn

988
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: more and do better myself, just to be more inclusive

989
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: and learn from them and just see, you know, the

990
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: things that they've gone through. Like you know, don't don't

991
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: hate them for being angry. You've got to ask why

992
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: they're angry. They're not just angry for no reason. So

993
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: Clothing the Gap are doing such an amazing thing with

994
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: raising awareness about Aboriginal culture and you know the fact

995
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: that someone actually owns the Aboriginal flag and the fact

996
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: they want it free so they can actually use it

997
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: on their clothing and whatever have you. It's just even

998
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: that it's like, how does that owner in their heart

999
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: keep the first flag of this country under wraps for

1000
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: no one to use? You have to pay, like Aboriginal

1001
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: people have to pay to use it? Are you serious?

1002
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: Like is this seriously what the world we live in?

1003
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: It just blows my mind that people are so selfish.

1004
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: So, yeah, there's just sutrageous, isn't it.

1005
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just so much that needs to be done.

1006
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: So much, And I would love to know you did

1007
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: speak about that education platform that you're now aligned to do.

1008
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: I'd love to know if you. Yeah, so i'd love

1009
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: to know. Do you have any actionable tips for the listeners.

1010
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 2: Do you recommend them just going to the website or Yeah, I.

1011
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: Definitely go to the website to find out more because

1012
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: they can point you in like a million different directions.

1013
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: And same with clothing.

1014
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: The gap amazing, Yeah, I just.

1015
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: Think Also it's like it's like, I mean, I have

1016
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 1: to do it every day, not so much in terms

1017
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: of racism, but other things. I really have to stop

1018
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: myself before I judge someone and correct my thinking, right, like,

1019
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: before you judge someone, just kind of think, why are

1020
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: you thinking that way? Why are you thinking that horrible

1021
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: thought just because of the color of their skin, or

1022
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: why do you feel uncomfortable? Like you have no reason,

1023
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: and they're just like it's kind of like you've got

1024
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: to rewire your own brain first to even just take

1025
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: the next few steps and then even bigger steps. It's

1026
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: like signing petitions and asking your friends and looking on

1027
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: the websites and just seeing how you can, you know,

1028
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: do more, how you can help free the flag and

1029
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: kind of just make it more of an inclusive place

1030
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: for everyone. And when I say like inclusive, and I

1031
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: mean safe and safe being that people don't feel awkward

1032
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: when they rock up to events or you know, younger

1033
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: black kids can actually go to parties and sporting events

1034
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: without being looked at weird or you know, told, oh,

1035
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: you're going to win this race because you're black. Like

1036
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: it just none of that should even come into the conversation.

1037
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: Just let them be kids, or you know, let them

1038
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: do their thing freely without being just by the color

1039
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: of their skin. That it's so important because it stays

1040
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: with you forever.

1041
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: Seriously, that is so important. I also I love what

1042
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: you said about sort of the first step of like

1043
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: reevaluating and shifting your own thoughts and being like, hang on,

1044
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: why am I judging that person? Or why am I

1045
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: thinking differently of that person and really starting there.

1046
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And like I think it's just also it

1047
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 1: comes down to vulnerability, Like you're allowed to say, Okay,

1048
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: I've made a few mistakes. You know. I applaud people

1049
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: that are like, wow, I used to be that way,

1050
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: but I'm trying so hard to be a better person

1051
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: because we all make mistakes. You can't hate people for

1052
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: making mistakes and doing the wrong thing when half the

1053
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: time they don't even know it. But if you're making

1054
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: the effort to change, for me, it's just like a

1055
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: huge tick. I just think it's awesome. And I love

1056
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: people that are honest with themselves and just want to

1057
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: move forward, Like I just find that so admirable.

1058
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I love that you touched

1059
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: on that. So Morgan, You've achieved so much already and

1060
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: you've done so much. What is next for you?

1061
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: Quite funny, I don't know. Well, obviously the Olympics, not time. Yeah, yeah,

1062
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: it's like if they happen the Olympics and then I

1063
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: think I'm going to take like a good two month

1064
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: break after it and just try and explore other avenues.

1065
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: It's quite funny between you and I and like, oh,

1066
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: obviously all your readers are readers listeners, sorry, because I'm

1067
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: going to hear this. But it was a dream of mine.

1068
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: This is quite funny, Like always been a dream of

1069
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: a dream of mine to reenact, like do a revamp

1070
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: of cat Woman, you know, halle Berry back in the day.

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00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: I want to like get into acting and just be

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00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: like it's like seriously, that's like the next thing in

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00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: my dream book. Like I am obsessed with halle Berry.

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00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with that movie ever since I was little.

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00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to be the next cat Woman. Yeah,

1076
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: and she looks so good for age, Oh my god.

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, ridiculous that it's yeah, I'm like featuring that movie

1078
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: right now, Like watch that.

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00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good, amazing, moving cool.

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00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, we'll.

1081
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: Be watching Could you imagine? That would make my life?

1082
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Like that's at the top of the bucket list, but

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00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: I just can't act.

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00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, keep putting, like keep putting that in

1085
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: your dream book.

1086
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: Keep going yeah, oh my god, you're getting tickets to

1087
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: the premiere because we've talked about it.

1088
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay, you have to do it now you

1089
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: heard it here first.

1090
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1091
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: Actually, thank you so much for sharing that with us.

1092
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: That's super and I love.

1093
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: It so amazing. Yes, okay, we'll see. Well, we'll be watching.

1094
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: The waiting and cheering you on from the sideline, whether

1095
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 2: it's the Olympics or Catwoman.

1096
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: So funny.

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00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Well again, sorry to wrap up this interview, and

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, firstly, thank you so much

1099
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: for your time. You have been an absolute delight. But

1100
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: to wrap up this interview, another question that I ask

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00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: all my Season three guests, and I'm here, I'm looking

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00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: for a bit of a pep talk and I'm sure

1103
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: you'll give us a good one.

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00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1105
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: Basically, get ready for your inner coach to come out.

1106
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: But what do you tell yourself when you're stepping out

1107
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: of your comfort zone into the unknown and it feels

1108
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: very uncomfortable. How do you sort of push yourself to

1109
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: do it?

1110
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: Oh? See, the first thing that came to my mind

1111
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: was like, don't shoot yourself, but I would probably say, oh,

1112
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: that's such a good one. For me. The first thing

1113
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: I've always been told is breathe, breathe, and my mum

1114
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: drilled it into my head, like you just have to

1115
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: repeat if you don't know, if you don't try, you

1116
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what I mean. So, yes, that's

1117
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: that's weird. Is perfect? Yeah for me, that's that's I mean.

1118
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if people want more, but

1119
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: it's just been so easy for me to be like,

1120
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: well shit, I mean, you don't know if you don't

1121
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: try it, so you might as well just get into it.

1122
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: But yet they're always going to start with breathing, for sure,

1123
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: because as soon as you tense up, everything falls to pieces.

1124
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: But if you're in the moment and breathing, I'm just

1125
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: going for it, you know, like life's too short. Especially

1126
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: this year, I think we've all learned just take risks.

1127
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: You've got nothing to lose. So yeah, that's probably what

1128
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: I would say, just plain and simple. I love it.

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00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: I bloody love it. Well, Morgan, thank you so much.

1130
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: Like I said, I have enjoyed this conversation so much,

1131
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 2: and yeah, good luck with everything, and we cannot wait

1132
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: to watch you and see you do amazing things.

1133
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you so much for having me Georgie. I

1134
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

1135
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: And that is it for today's episode. Thank you so

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00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: much for listening. I hope you enjoyed this chat. And guys,

1137
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: if you did love this episode, if you love the podcast,

1138
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: please give us a review or make sure you're subscribed.

1139
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: It really helps out the Rise and Conquer podcast. And

1140
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: if you do love the podcast and you love the

1141
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 2: conversations that we have, I think that you would love

1142
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: our Facebook group, So come and join us. It's just

1143
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: Rise and Conquer podcast community. And yeah, it's a private

1144
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: group where we chatted all things we do on the podcast.

1145
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: But thank you so much for listening. I'll chat to

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Speaker 2: you in our next step. It was for me, there's

1147
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Speaker 2: no there's all the tough drinks, the