1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Ash Matthew, could you imagine having three more kids in 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: your life? 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: Shutsy, beautiful mouth. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: You're getting sweaty just thinking about it. Oh, Chantel Duncan 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: and her husband Sam, they have five shut up, not two, 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: not three, not four, Five kids all under eight years old. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Plus she's running like several businesses. Well, does she have 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: a sakata problem? She doesn't know what it's like, Matthew. 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: As the owner of hit gyms across Queens and founding 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: new form a fitness program app, Chantelle has generated a 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: massive following amongst other mums who just want to keep fit. 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: I think she's got like over a million Wow, really 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: follows on social media. 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: Crazy Chantel gets into how she runs the circus at home, 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: how she met her longtime partner fellow hunk Sam. 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: That's very arrogant. 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Well, just reading the script, I hate the game, not 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: the play. 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: How she got through her high risk pregnancies with her twins, 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: and how she experienced a moment that he's every parent 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: worst night man. 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: Thankfully the story as well, but it's a great reminder. 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: Considering we are in the thick of summer, let's get 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: into it. Welcome back to two doting dads and one 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: doting mum. I am Maddie Jay, I'm Ash and I'm 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: Chantal Dunkin And this is a podcast all about parenting. 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: It is the good, it is the bad and the relatable. 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: And Chantel, we do not give any advice myself. 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: And Ash, no, we're not allowed to. 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: We have to always just flag that with the listeners 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: because we are not the experts here. But if you 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: have any advice to give, please we will be the 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: sponges and absorb it all beautiful. We always like to 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: start the podcast and find out what you were like 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: as a younger person. And Ash and I were talking 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: this morning in the car and the drive here, and 37 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: the one thing that stands out to us for yourself, Fontel, 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: is discipline. You scream discipline, do I Yeah, I think so. Yeah, 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: you're the fittest mom we've ever seen. 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: That's pretty much. 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: I was going to say, yeah, we always so driven 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: and so strict with your routine and your fitness as 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: a kid as well. 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: As a kid, I lent more into sports just purely 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: because well recently I found out I have ADHD and 46 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: that makes a lot more sense now looking back at it. 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: But I found that I thrived in sports, and so 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: I had very little focus. 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 5: And interest on the mundane. 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: And I guess that's kind of where it led me 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 4: to have that as a career. 52 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: Shall I say, if pe in sport was your best 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: subjects at school, what would be your worst history? 54 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 5: Okay, I mean it's done fair enough, fair enough, very logical. 55 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: Were your parents, you know, very sporty or were they 56 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: very encouraging? 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: Was there anything you picked up from them? 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: No? I mean my dad did play rugby league. I 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: have vague memories of it because by the time I 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: could retain that memory, he was kind of getting to 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: the point where el just getting out of plane. You know, 62 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 4: body's a bit broken. But no, I did not come 63 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: from a sporty family at all. I was almost like 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: the odd ball in the family. 65 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: You shall say, you mentioned that you had your diagnosis 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: with add When you look back when you were a youngster, 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: were there any symptoms that you go, oh, that makes 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: so much sense now, so much What were they focus? 69 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: I remember reading books and I could read everything that 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: was in front of me, But would it make sense 71 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: and would I retain it? Not? 72 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: Really? 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 4: If I was interested in it, I would be top 74 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: of the class. If I had to do an oral presentation, 75 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: meaning I could explain it the way that I saw 76 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: it and use my creativity to do my demonstrations, then 77 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: I would ace it. If I had to write something 78 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: and read a book, I would try go around and 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: watch the movie, which will never be exactly what the 80 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: book's like. And I became very solution orientated based from 81 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 4: having I guess those limitations. But yeah, I look back 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: at it now and I can see why I thrived 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: in things like math and science and sports. I didn't 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: in history and English. I just was not interested. And 85 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: if you're not interested, you don't hyperfix on it and 86 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: you don't retain it. 87 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: What led you to get diagnosed? Then, after all this time, 88 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: my son. 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 4: They kept saying in kindergarten that maturity for young boys 90 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 4: is delayed up to two years almost, And when he 91 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 4: was in kindergarten, he just wasn't focusing. He wasn't naughty, 92 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: he is so beautiful, he is such an honest kid, 93 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 4: but he could not focus and he'd do silly things. 94 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: And I remember saying to my husband, that's not like, 95 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 4: that's not. 96 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 5: Normal, and what is normal? 97 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: But I just always have this analogy that you can't 98 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: build a gorgeous, beautiful, incredible mansion on a shit foundation. 99 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: So if I don't create the great, solid foundation for him, 100 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: then he's not going to be able to flourish in 101 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: whatever he wants to do. 102 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 5: So I know. 103 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: I probably could have had a better kickstart if I 104 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 4: had a stronger foundation, But I guess the blessing was 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 4: I had to become solution orientated and I learned the 106 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 4: power of hard work. But I always want to try 107 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: build that foundation for them so that whatever it is 108 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: that they're interested in or that they're great at, they 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 4: just have a really good starting point. And I just 110 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: couldn't understand why he wasn't retaining things. He couldn't remember names. 111 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 4: I'd be like, this is you know Sarah who works 112 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: at the gym. You see her all the time. This 113 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 4: is you know And he just wouldn't remember their names 114 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: or remember like situations that we've done, maybe last year 115 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: we went on holidays anyways. And then his younger brother, 116 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: because I had the children so close in age, I 117 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: did all five of them in under six years, and 118 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: I just remember his younger brother started coming to the 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: mark and remembering things and having an excellent memory and yeah, 120 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 4: retaining information or like their memory is part of ADHD. 121 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: So I just said to the teacher, what do you 122 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: want to do, like what's where does he stand out? 123 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: And she said, we'll do a series of tests and 124 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 4: then you can send those reports to the GP. You 125 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 4: can go to the GP and have a look at 126 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: investigating further into an OT and they can have a 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: look to see if he's on the spectrum for anything, 128 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: if there's anything that he's challenged with. And to me, 129 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, ADHD is a power. It is a superpower. 130 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: A lot of geniuses and huge entrepreneurs tend to be 131 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: on the spectrum to be real. And my husband, his 132 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 4: two younger brothers, he comes from a family of four 133 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: kids they had ADHD. So I thought, genetically, it's a 134 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: strong chance. I did not think I had it because 135 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: I was so organized. I was over organized, I was 136 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: disciplined and things like that, but I was that because 137 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 4: I had to. Anyways, Yeah, he got diagnosed and then 138 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: she said, well it's generally genetic, like it's always going 139 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: to be genics. Sorry, And as they go into it 140 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 4: and list all the things that he's doing and the 141 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: things that he has, it just started to I almost 142 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: was ticking everything for myself. Wow, and then I thought, shit, 143 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: maybe I'm the problem. 144 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 5: So when I got tested and. 145 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: One of us has begun the process, Chantelle. 146 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: I'm very early on, but I think we're starting the process. 147 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: It's so long and tedious. I feel like it's all 148 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: one big test, you know what I mean, Like it's 149 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if. 150 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: We joke about the fact that if you can complete it, 151 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: you don't have it. Yeah, it's so hard. 152 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, but I doing the DIVA test, 153 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: skimmed so many questions just to get a finished And 154 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: then psychiatrist said, how did you go completing the test? 155 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: And I'm like, to be real, I'll be honest, I 156 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: didn't really read much of it. And he goes, oh, 157 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: that's a huge but that's a huge indicator right there. 158 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: I was going through like the first steps and it 159 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: was like, you know, getting like character from people close 160 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: to me, and I was. 161 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: Kind of like, oh, butterfly. 162 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: You know, I was just so distracted because I was like, 163 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: I can't focus on this. How how am I supposed 164 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 3: to complete something to figure out to tell me whether 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: I've got ADHD or not? 166 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: What is what not to sound really naive here, but Chanta, 167 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: what is the test? What does that look like? 168 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: It's very hard to know why he asks his certain questions. 169 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: That's a psychiatrist when you do the sit down appointments, 170 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: because at the beginning, yes, they can give you a diagnosis, 171 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: but I believe it's always tentative until they trial the medication, 172 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: and then they see how you spun because you'll either 173 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: go one way or the other. And they do school 174 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: reporting so they get all your history. 175 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 5: They obviously asks. 176 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 4: Like parents or people who knew you as an adolescent, 177 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 4: and then they get you to complete the DIVA tests 178 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: as well, so they're the main ones that I had 179 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: to do, and then it's just trial and error with 180 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: medication to see do you feel like you're getting better with. 181 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: That since your son's gone through the process. Do you 182 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: see a really big difference? 183 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 5: Massive. 184 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 4: I can not vouch more for parents getting their kids 185 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 4: tested if they have an ink clean or a gut 186 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 4: feeling that your child is struggling. It is in no way, 187 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: shape or form shameful if your child has some form 188 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 4: of challenge when it comes to focusing. Because if you 189 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: had diabetes, you'd get medication for it. If you could 190 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: not see, you would get glasses. If you had crooked teeth, 191 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: you'd go get bracest. If your brain is not functioning 192 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 4: the way it needs to function, you would get medication 193 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: for it. 194 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 5: It's just another organ. 195 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: It's really nice to hear because my wife and I 196 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: sort of our son really similar to how you described yours. 197 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: I feel like can't focus. 198 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: There's things he's really really really good art, and then 199 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: there's things he's really like struggling with that I can see. 200 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: So it's really good to hear that your perspective and 201 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: that you know there isn't anything be ashamed of, for sure, 202 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: not to. 203 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: Put you on the spot ash Do you think the 204 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: test for yourself will be completed or yeah, look. 205 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: I want to finish it. I'm trying my absolute hardest. 206 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: Too many distractions. 207 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you survived so far and done 208 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: so well, like you've built this character based on being 209 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: truly special and like in so many cool ways that 210 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 4: people admire. I mean, it's definitely a blessing. But if 211 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: it helps you build projects and get to the next 212 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 4: level that you might be working on, then perfect, then 213 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: the medication will help. 214 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm a therapy. 215 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: We did. We've got a glimpse of your beautiful husband 216 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: Sam before we started recording. I don't know if he's 217 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: in the room still, but he is a gorgeous. 218 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: Man's a handsome man. 219 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: He's laughing. 220 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: I think I heard a giggle in the battle. 221 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: I can sense it. 222 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: When did you and Sam first meet? 223 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: I was fourteen when he asked me out? 224 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: Wow, he was also a similar age. 225 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 5: I'm hoping he was. 226 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: He was. 227 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 5: He was fifteen with the baller. 228 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: Where was the asking out? Where did it take place? 229 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: So we met in school. He was the great above 230 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 4: me and we were kinder. It was so funny. Me 231 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: and my best friend liked him and his best friend 232 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: and so we just would sleek out of the house, 233 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: go to parties and on the weekends or on Thursday night, 234 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: got a late night shopping because that was such a thing. 235 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: I like the local Westfield. 236 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: Well we went that bougie. We're from the Redlands, so 237 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: it was Capellabar. 238 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 5: And the skate park and yeah, I was quite the tomboy. 239 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: And then we would always go to on to the 240 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: Wellington Point Beach which has a jetty and you'd go 241 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: jetty jumping and have hot chips and things like that 242 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: and all like skateboard and ride your bike set. But anyway, 243 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: so we would always find ways to see each other 244 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: outside of school as well. And it was Christmas Day 245 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: we did. We had Optus mobile phones, and the reason 246 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: why we had Optus is because it was free after nine. 247 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 5: Do you remember that? 248 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: I remember that. It seems wild flashback, young kids, like, 249 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: what do you mean it was free after isn't it 250 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: always three? 251 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: If you and your person you're ringing had Optus then 252 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: and you had at least a dollar credit, we'd always 253 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: hang on to that last dollar because you could. 254 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 5: Call for free after nine o'clock. 255 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 4: So we would speak for hours in our bedrooms from 256 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: nine o'clock. And it was Christmas Eve. My girlfriend and 257 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 4: Sam's best friend parks each other out on Christmas Eve, 258 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 4: and we didn't want the same anniversary, so then he 259 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: unks me out twelve oh one on Christmas Day and 260 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: then cue the next day. Our families ended up celebrating 261 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: Christmas at the same location. So we just knuck off 262 00:12:58,920 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: and we're like. 263 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: Hey, wow. 264 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: So when you're that age, though, you know, when you're 265 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen, the last thing you're thinking about you know, 266 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: you're kind of it's young love, but you're not really 267 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: thinking about getting married and starting a family. Do you 268 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,479 Speaker 1: remember when you guys started having those types of conversations. 269 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it would have been well after we 270 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: started our business. 271 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: We'll talk them eleven years to propose to me? 272 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: Eleven years? Well, you were fourteen. 273 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 6: Side, are you on? 274 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: Look? 275 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: I think like if you met when you're twenty, it 276 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: would have only been five years if you put it 277 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: that way. 278 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 5: So like team Sam, I see something. 279 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: You've got someone in your corner. 280 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: Mate, I got you, I got your mate. 281 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, so look we I reckon. 282 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: After we opened our first business together is when we 283 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: were actually feeling like adults. Were like, shit, we're full 284 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: blown adults here. Now let's talk about us. Before that, 285 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: we were in the honeymoon period for so many years, 286 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: which I love because we got to grow up together, 287 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: We got to go travel together, Like, yeah, I just 288 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: cut all the drama out that I would watch Vikarasi 289 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: through our friends and yeah, we were just so content 290 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: with not having to double into that and just always 291 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: have each other. And his mates were always, you know, 292 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: friends with all my girlfriends, So it just kind of 293 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: worked it was like this big Jersey shore. 294 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: In terms of popping the question, do you want to 295 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: give us how that went down? 296 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 5: It was so over the top. 297 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: He went so far. He got a helicopter ride for me, 298 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: and it was a friend who owned the Institute of 299 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: Fitness that I got qualified through or he got qualified 300 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 4: through as well. We became really good friends with the owner. 301 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: I also started working for him straight after I got qualified, 302 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: so this really good relationship with him and we would 303 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: talk to him about business and things like that. So 304 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: it made sense when he said he wrung me the 305 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: owner and said I want to take you out on 306 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: my helicopter and take you and Sam around the Gold 307 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: Coast that's where he was from. And yeah, I just 308 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: want to say thanks because you've grown your social media 309 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: so massively and you've sent hundreds of people through to 310 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: my institute and encourage them to get into the field. 311 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: So it's the least I could do. And I'm like, legit, 312 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: this sounds great. I mean, my husband's going to love this. 313 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: He loves helicopters. For me, I was like a day 314 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: off and I've got to go to the Gold Coaster. Okay. 315 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 5: I was so tired running. 316 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: This company, and I'm like, no, that's fine, that's so 317 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: lovely of him. So I got in a beautiful dress. 318 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 4: It was like a summer dress. He told me to 319 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: take it off. He's like, why are you wearing that? 320 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: Just like chuck some shorts on, which I'm so annoyed 321 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: because he had a photographer the proposed one. 322 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 5: I was wearing just the ugliest outfit. And yeah. So 323 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 5: we got into the helicopter. 324 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: We're flying around and he started hovering and he's like, oh, 325 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 4: can you see the shark sound there? And I'm like 326 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: looking down trying to find it, and he's like over there, 327 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 4: pointing to the beach. 328 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: Did not see it for so long? 329 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: And then he like physically turned my head and he's like, 330 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: look at the sign on the beach and there was 331 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: this griinenormous sign with all my friends and family. 332 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 5: Will you marry me? 333 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Wow? 334 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: Then I turned around and he was like he went 335 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: I want and just paused, shaking like a little baby back, 336 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 4: and then just said marry me, like could not say 337 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: what he wanted to say. I started bawling my eyes out, 338 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: and it's awkward because our friend is in between us. 339 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, guys, let me just. 340 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: And he stams in the back um of the front 341 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: kind even kiss him, can't of hug him. It was 342 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: so funny. And then when we got out the helicopter, 343 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: they had a photographer there, champagne popping, everyone was there. 344 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 4: We went out to lunch and it was really beautiful. 345 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 4: In my shorts and a single. 346 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: Weather appropriate appropriate. Yeah, that's great. 347 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: Well, that's probably one of the most boogie old like, 348 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: yeah out there. 349 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: Story as we've had. We've had some good ones. That's great. 350 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: Graduate take note of that. We do have to say, 351 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: and I mean this in the most polite way possible, 352 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: you are a little bit crazy in that I don't 353 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: know any family with young kids with more than three 354 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: little ones. You've got five. Talk me through that. 355 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: It was not planned, but it is the most incredible 356 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: blessing that has happened to us because we both have 357 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 4: a very small families on the outside and in a 358 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: quick nutshell, we don't have relationships with our parents or 359 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: anything like that, and so it's really small and for us, 360 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 4: we always wanted to redo life and do it the 361 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: way that we wish we could have had as kids. 362 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 4: And you'd always well, for us, we always admired watching 363 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: families and our friends have that perfect you know, they 364 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: do holidays, they sit down for dinners, they don't have 365 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: parents rock up to things, and. 366 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 5: Like, there's just this network. 367 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: There a unit, there's a unit there, and it's really beautiful. 368 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 4: And that's what we didn't have. It was very messy. 369 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 4: So for us, we had very similar common interests when 370 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: it came to our future, and we always said, let's 371 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 4: go four kids. Let's go four kids. Went the first 372 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: one and it was a perfect, literally textbook pregnancy. Then 373 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: we had I think I was nine months postpartum and 374 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: we fell pregnant with the second one, and I was like, amazing. 375 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: I only wanted boys because I just saw how easy 376 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 4: going all the boys were. In Sam's house. They would 377 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: punch on and then in ten minutes they would be 378 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: together again playing. They never had a grudge against each other, 379 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: they were best mates. They got over things so quickly. 380 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: And I was such a tomboy. I'm like, I just 381 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: can't deal with girls with simple creatures. Yeah, absolutely take 382 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: my head off, but kills me at the same time. 383 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 5: Sorry. 384 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, four boys. 385 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 5: Great. 386 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: So we had the first two and then I was like, 387 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 4: actually I kind of feel like I want a daughter. 388 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: I would love a daughter, but I don't want to 389 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: go through another two pregnancies. Maybe we could have twins, 390 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: you know, because if my this is all going to happen. 391 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: And I said to Sam, let's go see our ob 392 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: and just ask him what's the chance of us possibly 393 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 4: going for twins? How do you get twins? You know 394 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: what's put your best foot forward. You never know, you 395 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: got to learn. So I spoke to him and he 396 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: just basically said, your field of fitness, I would not 397 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 4: recommend you have twins, will absolutely destroy your public floor. 398 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 4: You won't be doing your kickboxing, your box jumps, you're skipping, 399 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: you won't. You know that's going to be gone and 400 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: it's going to damage your body as well. 401 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 5: So just keep that in the back of your mind. 402 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 4: Also, if you want to pick your gender, you're gonna 403 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: have to go overseas and do that. 404 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 5: We don't do that in Australia. 405 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 4: And also if we try to do twins and put 406 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: your eggs like fertilized eggs and you they can split. 407 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 4: And that's how as an example, that's how Octo Mum 408 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: came about. Is that how that I was like We'll 409 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: just go back. 410 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: To the normal. 411 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: It's all good. 412 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 5: Thanks so much. You've like terrified me. 413 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, and yes, I was like, okay, we'll just do 414 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 4: the norm. There's hard and nupshewe and get over yourself. 415 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 4: Just do it. You know, anything worth having is going 416 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 4: to be hard work. So we went and had our 417 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 4: third baby, and it was a high risk pregnancy, and 418 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: that just rattled me. It was called a threatened miscarriage. 419 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 4: So your body tries to miscourage the pregnancy, but your 420 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: cervix doesn't open, so it's kind of like a ticking bomb. 421 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: You're just a ticking bomb. You gotta lay down and 422 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: keep your legs up. You can't do anything that's like 423 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 4: even sneezing is really dangerous. And that comes from twelve 424 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: weeks all the way through. He came at and they 425 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 4: come early as well because the sack that they live 426 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: in thins and eventually the waters will break and you'll 427 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: have the baby. So I managed to keep him in 428 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 4: there till he was thirty five weeks. 429 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Do they pick that up on the twelve weeks scan? 430 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 4: No, It basically I just started hemorrhaging like I was miscarriaging, 431 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: and they checked and they're like, look, the baby's still alive, 432 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: but this is a miscarriage, and you're just going to 433 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: have to go home, hope for the best, come back 434 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 4: in twenty four forty eight hours and we'll check to 435 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: see if the baby survived. And I'm like, oh shit, 436 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: that's ruthless. 437 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 5: That's so ruthless. 438 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 4: That's all you get told. And so yeah, that was 439 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: a really dark period just laying there and ignoring basically 440 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: anything outside. It's like an outer body experience and you're 441 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 4: just basically living in the shell. For it was a Friday, 442 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 4: it happens. I have to wait till Monday. 443 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 444 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: And when I came back Monday, I'm like, the bleeding's 445 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 4: kind of slowed down. It's like getting better. Is everything good? 446 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 4: And you're just waiting to hear the heartbeat and they're like, yeah, 447 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 4: everything's good, but you have a huge hematoma. So that's 448 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: the big hemorrhage, like the big bruising in there, and 449 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: we can't guarantee anything. So yes, baby survived, You're just 450 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 4: going to have to lay down and just stay down. 451 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: And for me, I'm one adhd I know it. At 452 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: the time, running multiple businesses, have two young kids, under. 453 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 4: I don't know how old they were then. Anyways, they 454 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 4: were so young and then being so active. I trained 455 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: at least once a day minimum, and all my staff, 456 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 4: and then online presence on social media, and I was 457 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 4: on an app called Sweat at the time, and I 458 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 4: had to be actively promoting online and so it was 459 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: just so annoying and heavy and massively character building, but 460 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: we survived. He got to the thirty five week period 461 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: and came out six pounds, which is small but fine 462 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 4: for a thirty five week are absolutely perfect. 463 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 5: And here's our go getter, here's our wild child. 464 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: And he's like our little nugget, a little runt of 465 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 4: the family. He's just wild. And he came out perfectly fine. 466 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 4: And I said to Sam, done. 467 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: Done, Do not ever want to do that again? Three 468 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: kids be healthy. 469 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: Done. 470 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: He was eight months old and my girlfriend put me 471 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: on this flow app. I don't know if you boys 472 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: would even know what that is? 473 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 6: Do? 474 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't. Is it? 475 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: It's a cycle app? 476 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: Right, It's a cycle app so basically tells you when 477 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: you're ovulating, which my husband didn't know what that meant. 478 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 5: Only like a couple of weeks ago. 479 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 4: Anyways, she put me on this app and she's like, Seannie, 480 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: I know you're done having kids, so hop on the 481 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: flow app. I can't believe you never track, So here 482 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: you go. You can track because you're and Sam seen 483 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 4: before pregnant on the toilet seat these days. 484 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: Just good at it all right. 485 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 5: Now you're really like pepping and. 486 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: Up he So anyways, I was like perfect, looked at 487 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 4: it and I was like, oh, cool, we're not I'm 488 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 4: not ovulating. 489 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 5: I'm like so far out of it. 490 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 4: So one time, one time we were just like drinking 491 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: or you know whatever, and you know how babies are 492 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 4: made and tweens, so. 493 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: Talk about tempting fake with that conversation with you. Ob Yeah, I. 494 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: Feel like anything I think of happens, I keep manifesting. 495 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: I just need to stop. 496 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: What's the feeling like going okay, well we're pregnant. All right, 497 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna have to deal with this. We're gonna have 498 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: a fourth and then it's like, nope, you're gonna have 499 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: a fifth as well? 500 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: What's that field I had? My My friends are renovating 501 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: the house and they have four kids, and I was like, oh, 502 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 4: don't go rent a house, just come live at mine. 503 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: I have one spare room and a big lound room. 504 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: They typical islander vibes, right, this is me. I'm like, 505 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 4: everyone lives at my house. All good, come here, put 506 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: your fridge in my dining room. Like we'll be fine, 507 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 4: We'll like have this beautiful Brady bunch. And so I 508 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: had them living with me, and I remember coming down going, guys, 509 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: I'm pregnant. And I threw the test at Sam when 510 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: I found out you. 511 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: Did this. 512 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: Typical, And then I went down I told them and 513 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 4: I eventually had I had so many shoots I had 514 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 4: to do, and I had to go to Melbourne and 515 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: like film all this content. And I couldn't understand why 516 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: I was so unwell. I felt dizzy, like I needed 517 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 4: to faint all the time. I had nausea, and I 518 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 4: just was like, I'll get to the scan appointment, I'll 519 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 4: book it and I'll figure it out. But you know, 520 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: fourth pregnancy, I'm just not eager to run and go 521 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: figure it out. It's not so new, I guess, yeah. 522 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: And I was really busy. 523 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: I was just with the issues you had that. 524 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 5: I've done this before. They just need you know, I 525 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 5: know what it's like. 526 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 4: And eventually I made it to the Q scan appointment, 527 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 4: which you guys would have been at, and they show 528 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 4: you the little blob on the with the little ticker, 529 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 4: and I remember the lady set me down and she goes, 530 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: first baby. I'm like, no, fourth baby. Yeah, And I've 531 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: been in this exact ruin exact seat. 532 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: This is the fourth time doing this. 533 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: And she's like okay, And I was like having a 534 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 4: little joke, right, And I said to her, please just 535 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: tell me there's only one baby, otherwise I'm going to 536 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 4: get up and throat punch my husband. And she's like, okay, 537 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: did not turn the screen on in front of us 538 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 4: she was doing her scan. I can't see her screen 539 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: And I said, oh, could you turn that on please. 540 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: She's like, oh, I can't reach. 541 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: I can Oh no. 542 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: And I'm like, can you turn the screen on? She goes, 543 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, I'll figure out in a second. Sorry, 544 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: this is just how I need to do it this way. 545 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm calling you. That's not right anyways. 546 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: Then I'm thinking, all right, something's wrong. That's why she's 547 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 4: not showing us. And she turns around and she goes, 548 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: I need to go get my manager. Oh, And I'm like, oh, okay. 549 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 4: So she leaves the room and I looked at Sam 550 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 4: and we it was cod like real heavy into COVID 551 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: at that point, so we had a mask on and 552 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 4: I'm just like and then he's just looking at me 553 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: with these big, like islander eyes, like I'm either going 554 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: to be hit in a second or I'm going to 555 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 4: have to consolidate my wife in a second. Like the 556 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 4: poor man's just not sure what's going on. And the 557 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 4: manager comes back in and she goes, all right, I 558 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 4: want you to hold your husband's hand, and I was like, oh, bitch, 559 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: come on, what want I'm freaking out. I hold his hand. 560 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 4: I look at him and his eyes have got him 561 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 4: whiter and bigger. And she turns the TV on and 562 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, is that split screen? And because I left 563 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 4: it so long, they went blobs with a ticker, they 564 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: were full shapes, arms, legs, everything, And I was like, 565 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: is that split because I was two sacks, two separate 566 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 4: little babies, and she's like. 567 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 6: No o havings And I just cried, so embarrassingly cried, 568 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 6: and I'm like I can't do this and she's like, oh, 569 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 6: you'll be fine. 570 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: Manager has no idea who I am? What my situation is. 571 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I've got a ten months or like 572 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 4: a no seven month old or something. And then I 573 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 4: just had a listing off the other ages and a 574 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: three year old and a four year old, and she's like, do. 575 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 5: You have help? 576 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: I don't have a relationship with eta parents. Okay, well 577 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 4: I'll leave you for now and just left ever room 578 00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 4: with the. 579 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 5: Y Yeah. 580 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 4: There, what did we do? And then ladies like, just 581 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 4: so you know, they are the healthiest type of twins. 582 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 4: You can have separate sacks percentas are not even near 583 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: each other. They will not take each other's nutrients. They 584 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: will be so big and healthy. And I'm just like, 585 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 4: I don't. 586 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: Want to hear that. I want to hear that. 587 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 4: I was so I was just like dying inside. I 588 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 4: get in the car and then I just let it 589 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: out profusely, crying like Kim k heideous my best friend 590 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: on FaceTime. She just thinks the worst has happened. Then 591 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: she gives me this big like bitch, wipe your face 592 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 4: if there's anyone who can do this, and gives me 593 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: this full pep talk, and then I'm like, okay, Sam's like, 594 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 4: should I. 595 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 5: Not go to work today? 596 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 4: Just sitting next to me on the car, like he 597 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: doesn't exist. I'm just on the phone with my best friend. 598 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yeah, you're fine. 599 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: I like Sam's sort of like the cares so much, 600 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 4: but will pat me. We always have this ongoing jokey 601 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: we're like, were you hugged as a child? 602 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 5: Like yeah, just like. 603 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: His love language is gift giving and doing things for people, 604 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: not so much like physical touch. And I'm like that's okay, 605 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 4: Like I've got as, It's all good. Babes, go to work. 606 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just having a moment. And then yeah, 607 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: it came to terms that we were having it. But 608 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: then it turned out to be a threatened miscarriage again. 609 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 4: So only weeks later that I started hamorrhaging. Went back 610 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: into the doctors and they're like, unheard of, but you're 611 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 4: having the exact same thing again. 612 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 5: Legs up, do not move, and twin pregnancy is going 613 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 5: to be worse. 614 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 4: So then I went through it all again, knowing exactly 615 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: what I was going to expect, knowing what to expect, 616 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: and then also having three little kids now to mentor 617 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: and my husband just was phenomenal, just took everything over 618 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: for me, helped run the business more. I was pumping 619 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: content online for my app that I was working under. 620 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: I had so much backed up content, so I was 621 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: just trying to avoid the truth online and just survive. 622 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 5: And yeah, then they came early. 623 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: They came so early. They came at thirty one weeks 624 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: on the dot. 625 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Can I be really stupid for a second. How many 626 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: weeks is full term? 627 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 5: Thirty seven is healthy? Man? 628 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: Every good thing? 629 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 4: You Yeah, with twins, they're smaller than a single ten sorry, 630 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: technically not the same size as a normal thirty one weeker. 631 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: So they came out and I remember getting rushed to 632 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 4: hospital and saying to my doctor, I'm like that I'm 633 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 4: not in labor. I'm fine, I'm fine, and he's like, 634 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: you're in labor. Did that hurt? 635 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 5: And like you could just see the markers going up and. 636 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 4: Down And he's like, look, they're gonna come out, but 637 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: I just need to prepare you that they could come 638 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: out on separate days, because it was eleven PM at 639 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 4: the time or around eleven, and he's like, are you 640 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: prepared to have twins on the separate on separate days? 641 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: I was like, don't take them out, Like I don't 642 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 4: even care about that about day. 643 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 5: It's at least that my worry. 644 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: I've never heard about that. 645 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: I've never heard that ever happening where they're twins, but 646 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: the birthdays are different. They don't ever think about that. 647 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: But like Mike, he was born at like eleven thirty 648 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: at night. If he was a twin, he could possibly 649 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: be the cave. 650 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: Possibly. 651 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: So did your waters break, Chantella, Yeah. 652 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 5: My water's broke. 653 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: Then I started like camorrhaging and it was just a 654 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: massive ordeal. We had to quickly get rid of the 655 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 4: children and just dropped them at my friend's house and 656 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 4: I was like, please just feed them, bath them. There's 657 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 4: nothing there. We just got to go in the ambulance 658 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: straight to the hospital. And then yeah, it was just 659 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 4: kind of fast. It just kind of all happened. And 660 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 4: when they came out, it was and I'll be honest, 661 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: it was disgusting. They were translucent, they were so little, 662 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 4: and then they wrapped them in these bags to keep 663 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 4: them warm, and I'm just like, this is so foreign 664 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: for me because I don't know with your children's first 665 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: But they come out, they do checks, maybe a bit 666 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 4: of oxygen, maybe a bit of sucking, and then they 667 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: give them to you, and you go into the first 668 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: little stage of recovery with a baby on your bed yep, 669 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: and then you get moved into your suite and it's 670 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 4: like your whole new world for you, Like this is 671 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: a whole new ye. 672 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 5: Sam's kind of like where do I go. 673 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 4: Do I stay with my wife who is literally going 674 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: through it, or do I go with baby one? Or 675 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 4: do I go with baby two. There's thirty plus people 676 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 4: in the room because they need a whole unit for 677 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 4: one child. 678 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 5: It's really chaotic. 679 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: Then they start wheeling them away and I'm just like, 680 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 4: I am fine, I've done this, like choose a child 681 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 4: go and so he's disappeared. I'm just laying there. I 682 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 4: have no idea and I think that's that was fed. 683 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: That was really really hard. You go to recovery and 684 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: the all the nurses are like, how's your baby, And 685 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know. I had to actually, like 686 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: you feel so empty. You feel like you were doing 687 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 4: so well surviving for these little ones, and then all 688 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 4: of a sudden, you don't have anything and you don't 689 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 4: even have your husband. 690 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 5: Next year, it's just you. 691 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: No control of information either, You're not sure you're in 692 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: recovery and like as Dad's experience watching our wives in 693 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: recovery and how tough it is for them. So I 694 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: can imagine you laying there thinking, Okay, I'm in recovery. 695 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: I don't know where my kids are. I don't know 696 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: how they're feeling. I also don't know how I'm feeling 697 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 3: and how my husband's feeling either. 698 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: I can't imagine how that would have been for you. 699 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: And in an ADHD Praine, that was the first time 700 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 4: I had to surrender. I had to put my trust 701 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: in strangers. Yeah, I had to completely surrender and just 702 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 4: trust at the universe just what had to happen. Like, 703 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, this is my path and you just 704 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: need to lean into it and trust it and pay attention. 705 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're waiting for some kind of information about 706 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: what state the kids are in. Do you remember who 707 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: that came from? 708 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 5: No, it was such a blur. 709 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: I don't even remember wo much about that first twenty 710 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 4: four hour period other than nine hours after I had 711 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 4: the cesarean. I attempted to stand up and get up 712 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: and take the catheter and everything out, and I've just 713 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 4: had a cesarean, But I remember the only way I 714 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: could really see the children. Is if I could show 715 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: them that I could get up and hop into a wheelchair, 716 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: and I would milk it for twenty four hours. After 717 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 4: the first three berths, I was terrified of standing up, Yeah, 718 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: and my guts falling out and things like that. And yeah, 719 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 4: I was just so determined and got up. Proved them 720 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 4: that I could sit up straight. I wasn't going to 721 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 4: pass out. 722 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 5: I could go. 723 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 4: You have to prove that you go to the toilet 724 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 4: and everything like that. So I healed remarkably fast with 725 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 4: that pregnancy, purely because I got my body moving. And 726 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: this is what they always encourage is don't lay down, 727 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 4: get up and move. 728 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 5: The power of the mind is remarkable. 729 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: And when your face with the temptation of like you 730 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 4: can do the hard and you'll get to see your kids, 731 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 4: don't do the hard. You just have to miss out 732 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: right now. And I, yeah, got up, went to go 733 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 4: see them. And then I realized for sure how tiny 734 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 4: they were. And I remember I could put my wedding 735 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 4: ring over their hand, and yeah, it was they were 736 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 4: covered in everything. You couldn't really see their face. I 737 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 4: didn't know what they really look like. And then when 738 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 4: they're like you're ready for your first skinder skin experience. 739 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 4: And I'm trying to hop into this bed and reclimb back, 740 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 4: and I'm just like, my God is killing me. But 741 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to show that I'm in that much 742 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 4: pain because they're going to tell me to go to 743 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 4: your room. 744 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just pull through, You'll be fine. 745 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 4: They do it for the kids. When they put them 746 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 4: on me, I was like, what is actually physically touching me? 747 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 4: I can't even feel them touching me. There was so 748 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 4: much on them. Yeah. 749 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: I remember seeing a photo chantel and they have the 750 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: oxygen marks masked over their face. It was And they're 751 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,240 Speaker 1: so small as well. It's almost like equal parts medical 752 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: equipment to the baby. 753 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 4: Yes, premie babies. You don't lightly touch, you don't just 754 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 4: brush them. You just got to put pressure on them. 755 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: It's not like they don't like being tickled or Yeah, 756 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 4: it's different, like you don't feel like you can be 757 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 4: soft and gentle with them. You kind of just feel 758 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 4: like you just got to put a warm blanket on 759 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: and just like firm cuddle. Yeah, it was so weird. 760 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 5: It was really hard. 761 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: How long until you were able to go home? 762 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 4: I milked as long as I could, and I got 763 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 4: to stay. I think it was five days or four days. 764 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 5: Again, it was such a blur. 765 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 3: It's not that long, no, is it. So you could leave, 766 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 3: but you had to leave them behind. 767 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 768 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 4: Wow, That's when it hit you because at that time, 769 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 4: you're still technically under the same roof. Like logically, I'm 770 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 4: still in the same house, even though I sleep in 771 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 4: a separate room. I had a TV screen that I 772 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 4: could watch them on the TV screen and see them 773 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 4: like there. As soon as I'd wake up, I'd quickly 774 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 4: have my brakey and go straight downstairs and just tag 775 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 4: team cuddling each one. And then Sam obviously left, he 776 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 4: had to stay home here with the three kids, so 777 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: I'm doing this on my own. He'd come up as 778 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 4: much as he could, plus obviously take over the workload 779 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 4: that I. 780 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 5: Would normally do when it came to leaving. 781 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 4: That's when it really hit home because where we had 782 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 4: them was in the city where we live was about 783 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 4: fifty minutes away. So where you have them at the Mata, 784 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 4: you can't walk to the car parket It's like huge 785 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: hills and you're just not really in that fit form 786 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 4: at the moment to do that. 787 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 5: So a lot of the moms. 788 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 4: They sit at this bench seat under cover bench seat, 789 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 4: and there's a drive up point, almost like a ballet park, 790 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: and then the fathers come and they take the baby, 791 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 4: take the mom and if they go and scoot off. 792 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 4: So I'm sitting there waiting for Sam to get the car, 793 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 4: and it like walking up the hospital horrible, and then 794 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 4: sitting there and just being reminded by watching other parents 795 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 4: leave with their babies that you don't have that. That 796 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 4: was like just they get through it for whatever reason, 797 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 4: lean into it, surrender they need. Like to be honest, 798 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want them home. I didn't know what the 799 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 4: hell to do with these babies. I didn't know how 800 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 4: to look after them. They were so tiny. So at 801 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: the same time, you're like, I need you to stay here. 802 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 4: I need to attend to three other kids. But it 803 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 4: really sucks. 804 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: It's that feeling I can't imagine of leaving after all 805 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 3: of that, and then thinking, shit, well I'm not even 806 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 3: getting to leave with them. 807 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 5: At the moment, you feel, yeah, you feel a bit 808 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 5: like empty. 809 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: Ah for sure. 810 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 3: And how long were they there before you could bring 811 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 3: them home? 812 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 4: Almost six weeks. 813 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: It's a long time. 814 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 5: It's a long. 815 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 4: Juggle because I can't drive for seven days or a 816 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 4: little bit longer. Then that's a fifty minute community, fifty 817 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 4: minute communit that we've got to sort out the other kids, 818 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 4: but we also have to go into work and things 819 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 4: like that. 820 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: So to talk about it, I'm like a tough situation 821 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: being made even tougher. 822 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 4: Now I can understand when children are sick and parents 823 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: have to relocate why they would relocate because the cost 824 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 4: of parking, the commute, the time it takes away from 825 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 4: the other kids, and it's huge. 826 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 5: And we only had to do it for five and 827 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 5: a half weeks. 828 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you did have all five kids at home, 829 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: how was that logistically? Because I'm one of five, but 830 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: we're really spaced out the youngest and oldest. I'm going 831 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: to get this way wrong. If my family listened to 832 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: this and we're like, what are you talking about? But 833 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: it could be. I think it's about twelve or thirteen 834 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: years between youngest and oldest, so really spread out. So 835 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: we were fortunate that the eldest was able to step 836 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: in and help out, whereas your situation was different because 837 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: your kids are so young. Yeah, how the hell do 838 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: you guys manage with five little kids. 839 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 4: It was terrifying to say the least. And my five 840 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 4: year old, who was the oldest at the time. 841 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: Get to work. 842 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 4: He could barely remember where he put his shoes. I mean, 843 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 4: he's got ADHD like his working memory is shocking. And 844 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 4: he still needs help to do certain things as well, 845 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 4: and still gets out of his bed when we're trying 846 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 4: put him bed. Like there was so much to navigate around. 847 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 4: But the blessing in this is I was given two 848 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 4: babies that were fully routined hospitals NIKI like they routine them. 849 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 4: They are on a schedule, they get fed at a 850 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 4: certain time and then they're not carried all the time. 851 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 4: They're made to sleep in bright light, heaps of like noise. 852 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 4: Of course, there's always monitors going off. They are bathed 853 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 4: the same way all the time. They have bandages getting 854 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: ripped off them. Their heels are horrendous from getting blood 855 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 4: test pricks. They're just poked and prodded and resilient. As 856 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 4: they're the most resilient kids. So when they came home, yes, 857 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 4: they would kick on and scream like they had a 858 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 4: little situation with reflux. And I don't know if you 859 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 4: had reflex babies, but it's pretty bad. But other than that, 860 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 4: they were routined and I didn't breastfeed these two. I 861 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 4: chose not to, just for sanity and for logistically working 862 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 4: as a family. That was probably my saving grace because 863 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 4: I had my husband to help and I didn't get 864 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 4: sleep deprivation because I was able to know when I 865 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 4: could sleep and when I couldn't, whereas with breastfeeding, it 866 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 4: was feed on demand. Yeah, and I'm the only one 867 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 4: that can do it. And there's same point both of 868 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,959 Speaker 4: us being tired. But yeah, so when we got home 869 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 4: and had all five, it was just survive. 870 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I'm just going to say, you guys have 871 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: done such an amazing job. It's so hard with two kids. 872 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: I'm imagining adding three more in a mix, those two 873 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: of which are twins, and you're trying to run your 874 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: own business, which is you know, it's a lot harder 875 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 1: than a normal nine to five. 876 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 4: Well done, Thank you, thanks so much, huge effort. 877 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 5: It definitely builds you up as a parent. 878 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 4: And I mean, as you said, you two, you have two, 879 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 4: and it's hard. Two was hard for us, Don't get 880 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 4: me wrong. Three was hard for us. 881 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 5: They were all hard. 882 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 4: And my husband always says that to people that approach 883 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 4: him is like they were all hard. All ages were hard. 884 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 4: It's just you have no choice but to make this 885 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 4: your new heart for your. 886 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 1: Teeth and get it done. But now that you're at five, 887 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: have a six. 888 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 2: Really keep it on that flow app alright, you. 889 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 5: Don't need to worry about flow because flows in the bin. 890 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 4: Five weeks postpartum, I and Sam booked in for him 891 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 4: to get the snip. 892 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: Okay, good. 893 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 4: I could not get my chiefs tied in Amata hospital 894 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 4: without a medical reason for it, because it is. 895 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 2: Surely kids medical. 896 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 4: I try, but yeah, religious. For the religious reasons, that 897 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 4: hospital won't let you do it. And that's fine. So Sam, 898 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 4: when I took one for the team at five weeks postpartum. 899 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 3: You're the real hero, Sam, I've been. 900 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: I've been snipped as well, and I walk around my 901 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 2: house like a hero. Sold be. 902 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 4: Your point was, so you're going to understand this what 903 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to say. He went to the appointment and 904 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 4: Sam rings me. I'm in the car park and he 905 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 4: goes He's called doctor Dick. 906 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 5: His name's Richard. 907 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 1: You come to the right place. 908 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 4: Went to the same college as our Obi like random. 909 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 4: But anyways, he goes shout. He's saying, you can come in, 910 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 4: you can actually watch the surgery. 911 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 5: I'm like, on it here, try watching. 912 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 4: Holding his shoulders and like going, you've got this. I'm 913 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 4: at that end of the bed. And then he goes, no, 914 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 4: come down here and take some videos and photos. This 915 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 4: guy's hilarious and I'm like okay. So I stand theary's 916 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 4: chest and he's like, do you want to do the 917 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 4: honors and snip it? And I'm like no, because if 918 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 4: that thing reattaches, I'm good. 919 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 5: I'm like remembering it, don't just snip it. 920 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 4: Remove it. Anyways, so I'm filming it and it's just 921 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 4: so funny. 922 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 5: He's playing with It's just really. 923 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, we're really flipped the tables. Anyways, he 924 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 4: gets it all done. I video at SA Sam Conchot 925 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 4: the bras nice and we get to the recovery bit 926 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 4: where the nurse is like, okay, sorry, here's the aftercare. 927 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 4: He can't do any heavy lifting, and I'm just like, 928 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 4: I'm still got I just had two kids taken out 929 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 4: of me five weeks ago. They're still taking They're still 930 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 4: in the NICU at the moment, I'm like the poor 931 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 4: Sam over here with the one. 932 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 5: Stitch, poor guy. 933 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 4: Like it was, it was heavy and it was like 934 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 4: really confrontings. 935 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 3: Did they They also mentioned that how, I mean, you've 936 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 3: got what three months and the X amount of ejaculates 937 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 3: before you've got to get tested? 938 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 2: Did he go back and get tested? 939 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 4: So she's she's looking at me and she goes, okay, 940 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 4: So Han, he needs to ejaculate twenty seven times. 941 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,919 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'll cut you here. 942 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 4: Why are you looking at me? And she goes oh, 943 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 4: And Sam's like, Shannie, shut up. 944 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 2: If you leave it to him, will be done in 945 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 2: three days. 946 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 5: Excuse me. 947 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 4: I just gave birth to two babies, babies four and five. 948 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 4: They're all under six, and that was five weeks ago. 949 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 4: He will be getting himself off twenty seven times. And 950 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 4: She's just like okay, So Sam and Sam's just like challenge, 951 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 4: excepted say, shunning is. 952 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 5: S song grasing? But yeah, no, I haven't been retested 953 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 5: me either, so kid you not. 954 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 4: Probably one person I know that's had it done has 955 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 4: actually had the retest done, but him and his brother 956 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 4: need to go get retested. 957 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 5: And I thought that could be a cute thing they 958 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 5: could do together. 959 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: Watch each other. 960 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 1: Sean, tell there's a story that we found out about 961 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: your situation. I know this is a bit of a 962 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: traumatic when it's it's probably every parent's worse fear. Yeah, 963 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: but it involved which one the swimming pool. 964 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 5: Two years ago. 965 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 4: Pretty much in a couple of weeks, it will be 966 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 4: two years to the date that, Yeah, that was you. 967 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 4: Just you know, it's a possibility. You know how to 968 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 4: protect everything, you do everything by the book, but there's 969 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 4: things that you cannot control. And one for us is 970 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 4: the fact that we have older there's more than one child. 971 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 4: We could be as safe and shut front doors, shut 972 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 4: garage doors, shut poolgates, fix things, put things away, but 973 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 4: you can't see what the older ones are doing and 974 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 4: what they're forgetting to put away or what they're forgetting 975 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 4: to check all the time. And that was the twenty 976 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 4: second or twenty third of December. We were prepping the house. 977 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 4: Sam and I were running around like headless chooks while 978 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 4: the twins were sleeping or not crying and trying to 979 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 4: clean the house and get it ready for all our 980 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 4: family to come over. And I just remember seeing Paris, 981 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 4: our third child. Here is the bravest kid. He literally 982 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 4: has no fear, and this is how it happened. 983 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 5: This is the issues. 984 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 4: Our boys are so boisterous and they have no fear. 985 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 4: And I remember watching him jump on the trampoline. They 986 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 4: do it after they go for a swim to dry off, 987 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 4: and they call it like being a lizard. 988 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 5: They lay down on the mat on. 989 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 4: The tramp and they were all jumping, and then I 990 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 4: remember looking back and he wasn't in the trampoline, and 991 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 4: he's so loud, so you know where he is. And 992 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 4: I turned and I noticed that the pool gate was 993 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 4: slightly opened. There was a toy in the way, like 994 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 4: a seat thing, and I just remember dropping my phone 995 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 4: and then walking close. I couldn't see anything in the 996 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,959 Speaker 4: pool because he was so tucked up against the wall, 997 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 4: and I remember walking and I saw the head and 998 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 4: I just screamed, like bloody murder, Sam's name. It was 999 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 4: like the worst exorcism voice that came out. Neighbors everyone 1000 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 4: heard it. I jumped in, grabbed him and he was 1001 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 4: this dead flop, like complete flop. Oh my, my husband 1002 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 4: came running out and I almost just like dropped him 1003 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 4: into his arms and then he's screaming. Called the ambulance, 1004 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 4: called the ambulance and I couldn't find my phone. I 1005 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 4: didn't know what I did with it, and so I'm 1006 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 4: running inside trying to check everything and could not find 1007 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 4: a phone. 1008 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 5: And he's yelling call the ambulus. 1009 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 4: As he appliing that's performing CPR, and then I find it. 1010 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 4: I'll call them. And by the time the answer I 1011 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 4: turn around, Comparis is up and Sam's holding them and 1012 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 4: he's just like crying, but he's like fine, So I'm calling. 1013 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 4: I'm telling them what's happened. They're coming straight over. We 1014 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 4: were able to check the camera footage so that we 1015 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 4: could tell them exactly how long he had gone under 1016 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 4: for and also for the counsel. 1017 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 5: That they come and they checked for negligence. 1018 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 4: So really, you know, we had everything to make sure 1019 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 4: that we were to the strict Queensland safety guidelines like 1020 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 4: our pool and everything like, you know, it wasn't our 1021 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 4: negligence and how that happened to the child and he 1022 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 4: was under for two minutes ten fuckah, so long and. 1023 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 2: Like goose bumps that. 1024 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 5: And he was only two two years old, He's tiny. 1025 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 4: He blacked out at one minute twenty. You can see 1026 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 4: him just give up. I could have watched the video. 1027 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 4: Sam sent it to me when I was in hospital, 1028 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 4: but I didn't watch it, but he watched it, and 1029 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 4: I don't think i'll ever watch it, to be honest. 1030 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,760 Speaker 4: But we went into hospital. They did all the checks, 1031 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 4: they did all the scans, and they come in and 1032 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 4: this is the end of our journey there. 1033 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 5: We'd stayed overnight. 1034 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 4: They're like, Okay, the report is there is not one 1035 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,919 Speaker 4: single thing wrong with your son. 1036 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 5: We can't find a single thing. 1037 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 4: He has blocked his He's like completely blocked, so no 1038 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 4: fluid went down, nothing went in his lungs. He's not 1039 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 4: at risk of pneumonia anything. There's no temperature on your child. 1040 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 4: There is nothing. He's passing all the like neurological chests 1041 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 4: and things like that. 1042 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: And I'm assuming they're kind of saying this. 1043 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,720 Speaker 5: They're like, that's a miracle. 1044 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, gosh, I need to take any water 1045 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 3: in to his lungs. 1046 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 4: Nothing his body, like. 1047 00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 2: A muscle contracted. 1048 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it doesn't normally happen and definitely not at 1049 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 4: that age. 1050 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 5: We walked out of that hospital. 1051 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 4: Literally both just walked out of that hospital, and they're like, 1052 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 4: count your blessings and Merry Christmas. 1053 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 3: And I was like, holy shit, did you like to 1054 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 3: away after old have like on green at the bull up? 1055 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. 1056 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 4: We were like and we didn't have to tell our 1057 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 4: boys because they were shocked. 1058 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 5: They were they saw the whole thing. 1059 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 4: We went straight online and I was like, if there 1060 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 4: is one thing that I can do to try redeem 1061 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 4: the situation, is everyone's gone and going to be around 1062 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 4: a pool for Christmas with their friends and family, and 1063 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 4: they're all going to drop the ball. They're all going 1064 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 4: to turn a blind eye. They're going to be more relaxed, 1065 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 4: they are going to they're not going to think about 1066 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 4: what the older kids. 1067 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 5: Might be doing. 1068 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 4: And so we went online and we just spread, we 1069 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 4: like fully spread the awareness of you need to watch 1070 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 4: pool gates, you need to be on the ball, You 1071 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 4: need to allocate someone to consistently watch the kids in 1072 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 4: the pool and check the gates. 1073 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: Like yeah, you know, if it makes you feel any 1074 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: any better. But when Marley was really young, we only 1075 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: had I think Lola might have been a newborn. At 1076 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: our old house, we had a little paddle pool and 1077 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: stupidly we know not to fill it up any like 1078 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: any higher than like ankle deep water. But we filled 1079 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: it up really high. We had friends over and it 1080 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: was one of those situations where you're kind of entertaining. 1081 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: You got friends over. Laura and I kind of got 1082 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,439 Speaker 1: lost and who's looking after Marley. We had a front 1083 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 1: and a backyard. The paddle pool was in the front, 1084 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: and it got to a point where we said, where's 1085 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: Marley And we were looking around, couldn't find her. And 1086 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: luckily she was just too small. She was trying, she'd 1087 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: been trying to climb into the paddle pool which was 1088 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: filled up like she and she was only you know, 1089 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,800 Speaker 1: she was crawling at this stage. And you know, we think, gosh, 1090 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: it's so easy to just lose them for a split second, 1091 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: and you think you mentioned before, you're like two minutes ten, 1092 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: that's a long time, but you think, gosh, it could 1093 00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,280 Speaker 1: have been, could have been so much Worse's. 1094 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,479 Speaker 4: Can change in an instance, and you just never ever 1095 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 4: want to take take away the joy in each day 1096 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 4: and the opportunity to have each day. I think that's 1097 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 4: what really brought us closer as a unit, is like 1098 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 4: it might be really hard to have five kids, but 1099 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 4: we would never change it for the world. And to 1100 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 4: have that dangled in front of us with the twins, 1101 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 4: and then also with that situation, it was like we 1102 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 4: are so lucky and so blessed, like we would never 1103 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 4: ever complain about having five kids. 1104 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 5: Ever, I don't think anyone would. 1105 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 4: But I just I know that those moments have really 1106 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 4: shone forward for us to be so appreciative of the 1107 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 4: blessing and the opportunity to have five healthy babies and 1108 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 4: to have these situations that have managed that we've managed 1109 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 4: to take lessons away with without having the full hardship 1110 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 4: of what could have been. 1111 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta ask chan. Tell my good friend Ash 1112 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: over here is just joined the gym, and not to 1113 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: put them on the spot, but I you know, if 1114 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: ever there was a time to ask an expert on 1115 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: the topic of fitness, we're talking to one of the 1116 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: fittest moms in the country. Do you have any advice 1117 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: for Ash right now? He was getting back into the gym. 1118 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I have my own app new 1119 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 4: that's my nameless plug jump on, get it going. No, 1120 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 4: but honestly following a program going there and thinking I'm 1121 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 4: going to go in there and do chests on Monday, 1122 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 4: chests on Tuesday, chest on Wednesday. 1123 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 2: That's my exact plan. 1124 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 4: Because the bigger the chest, the small the shirt won't. 1125 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 5: Touch the tummy. 1126 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 2: That's actually nice. I'm going to run with that. 1127 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 4: No, So first of all, follow a program, making sure 1128 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 4: that you've got structure. You're training with a purpose. There's 1129 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 4: intention behind your training, not pushing a new film. There 1130 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 4: is a low impact strength program which is all scientifically 1131 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,439 Speaker 4: back that program so it's very it's got the repetitiveness 1132 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 4: to it so that you can consistently work on edging 1133 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 4: out improvements, heavier and getting that progressive overload which is 1134 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 4: just going to build you up, which is obviously an 1135 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 4: easier way to burn fat than having to do hours 1136 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 4: of cardio. But the other thing, nutrition is key and 1137 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 4: hitting your protein, so making sure that you eat the 1138 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,959 Speaker 4: right amount of protein each day to compliment the both. 1139 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 2: So how much protein is a matter. 1140 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 3: And if I hit my protein goes through beer's that 1141 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 3: count absolutely not. 1142 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 4: But you will fight. 1143 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,919 Speaker 5: That's a good galance, there's good. 1144 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 4: You're gotta have low stress, so I mean if that 1145 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 4: lowers your stress, perfect, But no, hit your protein and 1146 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 4: train in a structured way that is intentionally making sure 1147 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 4: that every time you hit the gym, you're actually training 1148 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 4: with progression. You're not just going there because it's fluffy 1149 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,240 Speaker 4: and it makes you feel good and you get away. 1150 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 5: From the kids. 1151 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,240 Speaker 1: Remind us the name of the app. 1152 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,280 Speaker 4: It's called new Form n eu Form and it's available 1153 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 4: on Apple Android. It's got a seven day free trial, 1154 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 4: and yeah, it's my baby. It's the way that we 1155 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,919 Speaker 4: have trans formed hundreds and hundreds of lives throughout our 1156 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 4: gym history, and now we're making it available for people 1157 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 4: around the world. 1158 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 3: And we'll leave it in the show notes of this 1159 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 3: as well. And thank you for the advice. Actually I 1160 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 3: needed that. 1161 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the new ash. 1162 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to be jacked. 1163 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 5: Take before photos because marketing we. 1164 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 2: Just released a calendar that's got plenty of before photos. 1165 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: Trust me, I did see that. 1166 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,240 Speaker 4: I would like to get one for my husband because 1167 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,720 Speaker 4: now you guys need to be worse friends. 1168 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 1: We will send one to Queensland. Don't worry about that. 1169 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: He last question before we go, We always asked our guests, 1170 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: what would be the one thing you want your kids 1171 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: to remember about the house they grew up in. 1172 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 4: Oh, I want them to remember they had just so 1173 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 4: much spontaneous fun. Like growing up there was so much 1174 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 4: spontaneous fun. Whether it's like we're about to go to bed, 1175 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 4: screw it, Let's go on the pool. 1176 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 5: Let's have an night swim, or. 1177 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 4: You know, let's have a dance party because someone had 1178 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 4: a bad day, or let's just go for two nights camping, 1179 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 4: like let's just take a couple of swags and all 1180 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 4: do the crued sleeping pile technique. Just random spontaneous fun. 1181 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 4: Because my husband is an absolute clown and he keeps 1182 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 4: me like living life to its fullest. So I just 1183 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,280 Speaker 4: hope my children can see that in our family. 1184 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: I love that. I know I've said it before, but 1185 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: I've got to say it again. You guys are doing 1186 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: such an amazing job, not just with raising a family 1187 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 1: but also with your business as well, So keep it up. 1188 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: It's bloody impressive. 1189 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 1190 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 4: I appreciate it, guys, and I appreciate it coming on 1191 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 4: and having a. 1192 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 2: Chat five kids. I don't know how you do it. 1193 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 1: It's crazy, it's crazy, but chantelle, thank you so much. 1194 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 5: Appreciate it, guys. 1195 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1196 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: Dad is one of the more intense conversations I think 1197 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 1: I've had a didn't plan on it being that hectic, 1198 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: but hearing about a child almost drowning. You're like, holy shit. 1199 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 3: I do recall looking at myself in the camera and 1200 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 3: my facials were. 1201 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: Pretty draw on the floor. Holy shit. Such an awesome chat. 1202 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: Huge thanks to Chantelle for jumping on the pod. 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