WEBVTT - RHOBH - RECAP - WEEK 6 - ALANA MCLEAN 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.640 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.040 TV Reload, the podcast last week that life. Hey guys, 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.280 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.719 for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Alana MacLean, 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.400 who continues to slay with her knowledge on the Housewives 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.759 right across the franchise. I am also very sorry that 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.439 I was late with this week's episode. It has been 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.120 crazy reporting on all the news right across the week, 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.920 so I'm a little bit delayed, and I apologize. The 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.600 fires in Los Angeles were dominating the news, and Alana 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.360 and I will address that early on in the podcast 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.720 because we want to show our respect to what has 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.600 been going on with that. Before we get into the 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.960 drama that is this episode called the Viper Room. We 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.720 will discuss the change of pace and what we thought 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.440 of the backstory for Bozeman, the interior design story for Erica, 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.160 and Garsell's very personal story about her son. I will 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.880 get some perspective as well on Derete's oversharing with so 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.920 much detail about her split with p K, considering that 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.040 her children will want the show at some stage, we 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.640 will address what the show will look like without Kyle 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:08.000 Richards and also discuss if Kyle's latest trips to the 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.200 injectables has had some kind of an effect on how 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.040 the women are able to read some of her intentions. 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.600 You were going to get plenty of chat on sudden 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.840 and her meddling ways, with Elana and I having a 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.119 very different opinion what we think of Kyle's secret phone 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.080 calls to PK if it to be continued, was the 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.200 right way to finish the episode considering we've been on 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.200 a two week break, and we will also talk about 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.600 the latest celebrity female singer Kyle Richards has been linked to. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.559 There's actually so much to talk about with so many 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.800 inside revelations, So guys, sit back and relax as we 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.919 unpack the wonderful world of the Real Housewives of Beverly 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:48.320 Hills Season fourteen, Episode six. Can we start with the song. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.280 Just call Me Anger of the Morning? 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.280 If there was ever a theme song for the Real 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.360 Housewives of Beverly Hills, I think you should sing it 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.720 and it would be like a Kath and Kim. What's 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:01.880 the Kath and Kim theme song? 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:08.280 Oh, there's always a joke in the pack dead and 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.400 if any us people are listening to that, then Oh, 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:13.960 I suppose kathink Kim got pretty big over there, but yeah, 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:15.200 I mean I wouldn't huge. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.600 But are you're talking about Everyone's talking about it over 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.680 there like they're obsessed with it. Like even now, yes, 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.800 having a reconnaissance because these drag queens started watching it 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.280 in America and now America's falling in love with it. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.080 There's been more activity talking about Kath and Kim because 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.840 of this new interest in the Americans. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.680 Really, Oh, they can't bring. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.680 It back unless they did it AI because the women 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:39.240 are too old. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.560 Yeah, it's yeah, it would be like the Nursing Home edition, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:44.760 which I mean. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.400 Look that would have legs, that would actually have legs. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:48.639 Do you know who would watch them? 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.799 Us on repeat? 0:02:51.639 --> 0:03:00.160 The Green Housewives episodes recaps, You know, we should talk 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.840 about something very serious and then we have to pivot 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:03.920 back to the Real Housewives. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.639 But what's going on in Los Angeles with those fires 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:07.680 is so scary. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:13.639 Oh my god, it is heartbreaking. Firefighters in Los Angeles 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.079 are warning that increasing winds could potentially result in explosive 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.680 fire growth from the existing wildfires. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:26.840 It's so devastating, it's so widespread, Like just even between 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.240 the time where I went to bed last night, and 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.480 then then waking up and seeing so many more videos 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.600 and things across social media, and it's just it's almost 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.120 taken the whole of Los Angeles down. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.120 It's in peril. 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:41.840 I think people will be talking about this for a 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.080 very long time. The Daily Mail yesterday was listing all 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.360 of the houses of very famous people who've lost their homes. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.000 But what was interesting to me was that I lived 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.000 in Los Angeles, so I know where all of those 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.119 homes are, and so it's strange to me to know 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.560 how far that fire has spread because I know all 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.640 of those homes, and even the visuals from the Grove, 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.520 which is my favorite shopping center in the world, from 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.200 the top of their car park, the visuals from Runyan Canyon, 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.120 like looking at terrifying, and then also Venice Beach, which 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.560 is the beach back from Sorry Santa Monica. That's wild 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.760 to me because you can really see how close those 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:18.640 fires have come. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.479 I don't know if you saw this this morning, but 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:25.000 so Boseman, she must have a house that's in Malibu 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.440 and she has lost it. She wrote a post on 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.599 here this morning and I just thought, oh God, she 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.800 wrote this is the house that I wanted, the house 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.160 I prayed for, the house I worked in blood, sweat 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.800 and tears for the house. I put a keypad instead 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.799 of a keyhole in the front door because I wanted 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.760 all my family and friends to have a code and 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.960 to use the house whenever they wanted. This is the 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.040 house where I found peace after battling with racist neighbors 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.160 and a community that made me have to buy it 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.039 in a trust within a trust so no one would 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.080 know that a widowed, single black woman with a teenager 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.640 was buying exclusively owned. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.920 Property on the beach. This was my few house. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.159 I'm here, the house that I built a movie room 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.000 with dedicated to my sister so she could see films. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:06.920 And this is the house where I finally felt like 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.440 I could choose to spend time when and how I 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:09.960 wanted to. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.120 It is now gone, and she's put a. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:16.240 Lot of pictures and vision and oh, it's just heartbreaking. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.320 And that is a story of many And I thought 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.520 about Garcell's house in particular this week because there was 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.640 such an emphasis on it during the episode and we 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.599 really got to see, you know, it in its complete state. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.200 I guess we've seeing little snippets along the way. But 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.640 she was sitting there having that first dinner, and I mean, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.520 there's nothing on her Instagram, so fingers grass. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:37.880 He's okay. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.320 But I just thought, oh god, it's just you know, 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.120 it was only a few years ago we were watching 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.200 Denise and Camille go through those Malibu fires, and now 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:46.359 this is even bigger than that. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.240 It's crazy. You know, a friend of mine she lost 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.640 her home yesterday. She was a friend of mine that 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.279 I knew while I was over there, and she put 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.359 up a post to say thank you to all of 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.200 the people that are homing us like that are how 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:00.760 do they ease. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:01.640 And where do they go? 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:02.240 Like? 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.480 You know, that's one of the things that I was thinking. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.360 You know, Okay, they get the evacuation audits, but where 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:08.120 do they go? 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:09.760 I mean, I understand a. 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.279 Lot of the celebrities along that Malibu strip that's their 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.719 holiday home. But when you're getting evacuated, do you get 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.359 sent to a center? Do you have to go to 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.520 a friend's house? What if you don't have a friend's 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.520 house to go to? I mean, the complexities of just 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.360 that getting your pets out. I saw that Airbnb were 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.640 doing a thing where you could reach out to them, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.200 and you could go and stay there for a week, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.080 but like, then, what this is the whole city? 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:33.000 Our hearts go. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.200 Out to them, and yeah, it feels it does feel 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.279 a little bit frivolous to talk about an episode recap 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.320 when so much of that is happening. But that show 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.040 is there to bring light and levity to everyone, and 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.400 hopefully we can just park all of that heaviness just 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.520 for a minute so we can do our little recap 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.040 and hopefully bring people a few laughs and get their 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:55.720 minds off her. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.599 So this episode is, to me the worst episode. I'm 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.720 going to already go to my Benjamin Norris scoreboard and 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.800 say one star. It was interesting that they gave us 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.760 as much backstory with Bozman, and I think it's a 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.280 bold move because you know, we don't really know her 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.040 and we need her, so it's kind of imperative that 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.680 they do something like this, and they hadn't done that 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.040 with some previous newbies before for us to get something 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.680 so in depth, But it was really flat, Like I'd 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.040 been loving Bozman up until that point, and then I 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.840 was like, Eh, maybe this is why we don't get 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.720 to see backstories like that for new bees. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.720 Well, it was interesting in that I felt the same. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.200 I didn't necessarily hate it as much as what you 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.120 were sort of saying, but I was like, oh, this 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:46.080 is very different because it was taking Garcel with her 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.880 beach house story and her son, and then Erica's decorating, 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:50.400 and then. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.120 Bozman with this new guy, which, by the way, I thought, 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:54.400 this is ballsy if. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.480 You're bringing him on camera that it sound like they've 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.280 been together for three months, and it was all very 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.240 new and it was such a deep dive into each 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.400 of those stories. We actually didn't have much group interaction 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.520 until I think there was a scene with Deret and 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:11.160 Erica talking about Phoenix doing the ballet and then Derete 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.400 talking to Bose about the therapy session. Until we got 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:18.320 to that final scene, there wasn't a group shot. So yeah, 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.640 it was a very different one. And maybe we have 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.720 spoken about this before, but that is intentional from the 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:28.840 producers so that every episode doesn't get hounded online as 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.000 being so heavy and toxic and dark and this, and 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:33.080 that they're trying to. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.960 Add all these extra ayism in there. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.480 But it does feel like Deret is carrying this whole 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.880 series on her back, because the only times we got 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.600 storylines between the women, as you mentioned, was Derete talking 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.840 to either Erica or Bothman, and we saw no Kyle. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.640 We saw no Kathy, thankfully, we saw no Jennifer Tilly. Really, 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.280 it was bizarre to me. It felt like Kyle must 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.640 have sent Andy Cohen an email and said, ps of 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.319 going to the snow fuck you have a good time 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:03.040 filming the show. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.840 Yes, you're so right. There was something. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.960 There was something so different about it that we have 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.880 not seen in fifteen seasons. You are so fourteen, so 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.600 wherever we're up to that is so right. It did 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.560 feel like there was a break or something else going on, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.920 and they've thought we have to you know, it's like 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.480 all the stuff that they would have popped maybe a 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.200 couple of minutes in as Villa, they've suddenly picked it 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.200 back up off the cutting room floor and said, well, 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.760 we're just going to have to plunk this in. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.600 There because this is all we have for this week. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.400 And it's not to say that some of it wasn't interesting. 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:40.000 It was just very drawn out for each of those stories. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.720 It's not that I don't want to see what Erica 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.800 is doing, but I don't need a full. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.840 Back catalog of every house. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.360 That this guy's designed and exactly what they're going to 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.360 do in each room, Like it was very, very elaborate. 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:53.800 For such simple storylines. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.680 I just finished with that man leaving the house, the 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.040 designer with Erica, and he was like, well that it 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.280 was great, you know, really looking forward to it. I 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.719 was thinking, Erica can't afford to do any of this. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.480 She is wasting your time, my friend, that. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:14.120 Is going to be yeah, Instagram hashtag partner, hashtag sponds, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:18.120 hashtag gifted, hashtag ad whatever she can do to get 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:19.480 those bucks off the bill. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.800 It reminded me of the time that my girlfriend rang 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.040 me and said, let's go to Louis Vauton. And we 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.600 went to Louis Vuitton and we looked around, we tried 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.600 stuff on think she bought like a like a purse 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.000 for her keys, like it was like this big, it 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.760 was a tiny the cheapest thing. Yeah, yeah, and we left. 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.400 That's her. She's like, thank you for coming. I really 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.880 like your ideas. Can you please style the toilet rollholder? 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.040 Yes, yes, or like thanks for your ideas, but now 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.120 I'm going to go to Walmart and get that mirror 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.200 that you talked about and I'll just I'll just get 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.440 Mikey and the glam squad to, like, you know. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.679 Pop it in before we go away from Bozeman. What 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:56.640 do you think of her man? 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.960 I mean, I thought he was nice. I don't know. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.120 Oh, I get a little bit red flag with some 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.240 of these guys that pop up on the show and 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.160 they've only been seeing them a couple of months, and 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.080 you know, and then he was talking about marriage and 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.200 that's the only reason. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:13.640 That he dates. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.360 I just sort of thought, oh, girl, be careful and 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.480 she's smart cooking. And she said that she'd had a 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.959 bad relationship, just coming out of one that seemed quite 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:23.280 quick as well, and I thought. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.480 That's now, you put this guy on camera. I don't know. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:27.880 I was just surprised. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.760 I was surprised at that It felt like she hadn't 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:31.720 really thought that through. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.040 The chemistry was not great, and her weave was not 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.240 great either, like in the wind, like I hadn't realized 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:39.600 that the bore her. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:47.440 Oh her weave, I thought you said her queef. I 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:54.800 was like, hold up, what ill her weive? Okay, much better, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.839 I'm gonna I know you're quief. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.440 No, didn't you think the wig was weird? 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.480 Yeah, she's got a lot of hair weave going on. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.959 I think she does that as a side business. I've 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.600 been trying to work out what this eve by Bo's 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.360 thing is on her Instagram, and I think it's hair 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.720 weaves and stuff. So maybe she's just using every episode 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.240 as a bit of a different you know, hashtag ad 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.040 that looks like a weave, a weave that needs to leave. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.520 It was just so destryed Tymon Cow. It's a no 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:25.959 from me. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.520 I mean, I think she's so beautiful though, Like I 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:32.280 love her smile, I love her energy she is. I 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.040 just am loving her with every episode. But yeah, I 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.079 just I can kind of see what they're trying to 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.000 do because I think with Anna, Marie and Crystal, maybe 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.840 the reason that people were bonding to them as quick 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.439 as because we didn't see as much backstory. And I 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.760 think the producers have taken a bit of that feedback 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.840 on and gone, Okay, well we need to start bringing 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.240 people in a lot quicker with these newbies so they 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.360 feel like they know them a bit better, they can 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.040 bond to them a bit better, they understand their background. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.079 So I understan down what they were trying to do, 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:02.559 But I don't know if it quite. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.719 Worked and how awkward was Boseman trying to react to 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.120 what Durit was trying to say about her first counseling 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.920 session with PK, like as she was like, what, oh, no, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:15.920 it was so weird. I feel like she had to 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.839 really reach to sort of interact with it because what 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.120 did you make of Derete's retelling of her counseling session. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:27.679 Well, it's so hard because is she exaggerating? Is this 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.720 another you know, secret sort of thing about their marriage 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.240 that we haven't been privy to? And I think it's 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.920 you know, Boseman didn't know PK, he didn't know them 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.160 as a couple. He's got you know, that was a 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.719 very one sided chat because what was she going to 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.480 do defend PK. She doesn't even know the guy, so 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.520 of course she's going to lean heavily into Derete's side. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.880 Take everything that she's saying of face value. Had that 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.000 conversation happen. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.120 With Erica, I don't know whether it would have been 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:56.640 the same. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.520 What do you think My concern for Jarte and for 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.160 pa is this is a lot of information to be 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.760 putting out to the universe about their divorce, and I 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.520 just really worry for those children because at some point, 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.400 those kids are going to watch all of this back 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.640 and it's very toxic and it's very uncomfortable. And I 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.160 just don't think, I mean, this whole show is about 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.320 putting your real life on television, and I understand that. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.760 I just think Jury might be oversharing, and if she 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.280 is exaggerating, I think that's a really dangerous territory to 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.480 be in because those kids are going to watch all 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.040 this back and they're going to have a reaction to that, 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:31.400 you know, in years to come. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.320 And the irony of that whole situation is that she's 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.200 going so out of her way to protect the kids 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.000 as we're seeing it play out to the point where 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.320 you know, she fired back at Sutton again when Sutton said. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.120 Well, you can't keep the kids unaware forever. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:51.600 She's really really primal about keeping the kids away from this, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.400 And you're so right. It's the irony of it all 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.760 when it's going to turn around, you know, when those 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.400 kids finally watch the episodes, they're going to be seeing 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.520 it all like she is mentioning it all, honey, and. 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.920 Then feel like we're getting the side hustle as to 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.120 where Deret's going to go and that is stage mama 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:14.800 likes in Phoenix is amazing, and like we all got 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.400 to see that over the Christmas break, We've got to 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.320 see her in real time still doing her dancing and 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.200 her singing. But I was like, oh, Dearite was born 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:24.200 to be a stage mum. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.720 Oh yeah, she could lean right into that lean writing. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.400 But look, Phoenix looks I watched those social media clips. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.960 I mean, she she's got it. She's got the star power, 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.120 she's got the talent. So I mean, look, if Deret 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.640 loses their paycheck, come on in Phoenix, she's going to 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.480 be holding up the fort getting that in Sceno mansioned 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.040 back from pre foreclosure. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.440 Who do you think would be a worse stage mum, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.960 Derete or PK Dreid For sure, Nok is on the 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.400 other side. Deret is behind Curt number one, PK is 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.600 behind Kurt number two, and PK is there like yelling 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.160 at Phoenix, yeah, get the cash. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.680 He just needs the cash. Whatever, whoever's bringing that cash. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.360 She wouldn't care who's behind the curtain, not at all, you. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.000 Know, talking about the children of these women, did you 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.560 feel like with Garsel talking about her first son. You 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.600 know him being on the show, don't you think that 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.960 her relationship with him is quite fragile and he seems 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.240 a bit fragile. That to me seems like a bit 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.040 of a no go zone. I mean, I guess that 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.120 she's opening herself up and allowing us to see her story, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.960 and you know, I can clap for that, but I 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.120 just worry about putting that relationship out there because I 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.400 think that also doesn't have the ability to put that 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:40.360 much pressure on that. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.120 Well, I think it was I mean, it was very 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:49.440 much emotional and very private, and she's obviously been through 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.920 a lot of struggles with him and his addiction. I 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.160 thought it was good for Garcel, like I enjoyed watching 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.320 that as a viewer, and particularly because we were like, well, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.880 what are you bringing to the tape besides sort of 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.560 picking up on other people's stuff. So I thought that 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:08.040 part of it was valuable. But to your point, I 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:12.480 feel like we're the fragility. Where it's potentially going to 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.639 be an issue is if he had a relapse. His 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.400 situation is very much out there and not so much 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.440 that that would be detrimental for her, but degimental for him. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.840 You know, he's still only in his early thirties. By 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.960 the sounds of it, I think he's thirty three or something. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:29.880 I'm not too sure what he does for a living, 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.960 but you know he goes for a job, right, So yeah, 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.080 and there, they didn't know any of that. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.840 They've just taken him on face value and seeing his 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.000 CV and seeing someone who's quite together. 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.000 Now he might be in a bad spot if they go, well, 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.200 hang on a second, we think you might be a risk. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.399 I don't know how that all works into I've never 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.520 dealt with anyone that has those type of issues, but 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.199 I did feel like that last night. 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.800 I thought, Oh, you want to hope things stay on 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:57.679 a good track for him. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.639 Were you emotional though watching her tell? That's because that 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.840 was something I talked about with a friend of mine yesterday, 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.520 and she said she had no emotion to watching it, 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.480 that it was a very very emotional scene with her 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.399 retelling of that story, but there was somehow limited connection 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.359 to what it was as well. I don't know how 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:14.880 did you feel. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.280 I was quite you know, compelled and engaged in the story. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:21.680 It was one of those moments where you sort of 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:26.119 felt a bit like like that must have been really scary. 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.760 And an awful time, and for her as a mother, 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.359 and obviously she wouldn't have had the financial backing behind 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.080 her that she probably does now. And how did they 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.720 get into rehab? I did think about all of that, 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.080 and so I feel like for her us getting an 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.120 insight into more of her background and her family life 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.720 and those sort of family dynamics and the struggles. 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.520 I quite enjoyed it on that level. 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:51.639 I was like, get to the viper room. I'm like, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:56.280 by the time we had been to Bozman's backstory, Garsell's backstory, 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.119 Erica's backstory, this was a real opportunity for viewers to 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.000