Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload, the podcast last week that life. Hey guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Alana MacLean,
Speaker 1: who continues to slay with her knowledge on the Housewives
Speaker 1: right across the franchise. I am also very sorry that
Speaker 1: I was late with this week's episode. It has been
Speaker 1: crazy reporting on all the news right across the week,
Speaker 1: so I'm a little bit delayed, and I apologize. The
Speaker 1: fires in Los Angeles were dominating the news, and Alana
Speaker 1: and I will address that early on in the podcast
Speaker 1: because we want to show our respect to what has
Speaker 1: been going on with that. Before we get into the
Speaker 1: drama that is this episode called the Viper Room. We
Speaker 1: will discuss the change of pace and what we thought
Speaker 1: of the backstory for Bozeman, the interior design story for Erica,
Speaker 1: and Garsell's very personal story about her son. I will
Speaker 1: get some perspective as well on Derete's oversharing with so
Speaker 1: much detail about her split with p K, considering that
Speaker 1: her children will want the show at some stage, we
Speaker 1: will address what the show will look like without Kyle
Speaker 1: Richards and also discuss if Kyle's latest trips to the
Speaker 1: injectables has had some kind of an effect on how
Speaker 1: the women are able to read some of her intentions.
Speaker 1: You were going to get plenty of chat on sudden
Speaker 1: and her meddling ways, with Elana and I having a
Speaker 1: very different opinion what we think of Kyle's secret phone
Speaker 1: calls to PK if it to be continued, was the
Speaker 1: right way to finish the episode considering we've been on
Speaker 1: a two week break, and we will also talk about
Speaker 1: the latest celebrity female singer Kyle Richards has been linked to.
Speaker 1: There's actually so much to talk about with so many
Speaker 1: inside revelations, So guys, sit back and relax as we
Speaker 1: unpack the wonderful world of the Real Housewives of Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills Season fourteen, Episode six. Can we start with the song.
Speaker 2: Just call Me Anger of the Morning?
Speaker 1: If there was ever a theme song for the Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of Beverly Hills, I think you should sing it
Speaker 1: and it would be like a Kath and Kim. What's
Speaker 1: the Kath and Kim theme song?
Speaker 3: Oh, there's always a joke in the pack dead and
Speaker 3: if any us people are listening to that, then Oh,
Speaker 3: I suppose kathink Kim got pretty big over there, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't huge.
Speaker 1: But are you're talking about Everyone's talking about it over
Speaker 1: there like they're obsessed with it. Like even now, yes,
Speaker 1: having a reconnaissance because these drag queens started watching it
Speaker 1: in America and now America's falling in love with it.
Speaker 1: There's been more activity talking about Kath and Kim because
Speaker 1: of this new interest in the Americans.
Speaker 2: Really, Oh, they can't bring.
Speaker 1: It back unless they did it AI because the women
Speaker 1: are too old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's yeah, it would be like the Nursing Home edition,
Speaker 4: which I mean.
Speaker 2: Look that would have legs, that would actually have legs.
Speaker 1: Do you know who would watch them?
Speaker 4: Us on repeat?
Speaker 5: The Green Housewives episodes recaps, You know, we should talk
Speaker 5: about something very serious and then we have to pivot
Speaker 5: back to the Real Housewives.
Speaker 1: But what's going on in Los Angeles with those fires
Speaker 1: is so scary.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is heartbreaking. Firefighters in Los Angeles
Speaker 2: are warning that increasing winds could potentially result in explosive
Speaker 2: fire growth from the existing wildfires.
Speaker 4: It's so devastating, it's so widespread, Like just even between
Speaker 4: the time where I went to bed last night, and
Speaker 4: then then waking up and seeing so many more videos
Speaker 4: and things across social media, and it's just it's almost
Speaker 4: taken the whole of Los Angeles down.
Speaker 2: It's in peril.
Speaker 1: I think people will be talking about this for a
Speaker 1: very long time. The Daily Mail yesterday was listing all
Speaker 1: of the houses of very famous people who've lost their homes.
Speaker 1: But what was interesting to me was that I lived
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, so I know where all of those
Speaker 1: homes are, and so it's strange to me to know
Speaker 1: how far that fire has spread because I know all
Speaker 1: of those homes, and even the visuals from the Grove,
Speaker 1: which is my favorite shopping center in the world, from
Speaker 1: the top of their car park, the visuals from Runyan Canyon,
Speaker 1: like looking at terrifying, and then also Venice Beach, which
Speaker 1: is the beach back from Sorry Santa Monica. That's wild
Speaker 1: to me because you can really see how close those
Speaker 1: fires have come.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this this morning, but
Speaker 4: so Boseman, she must have a house that's in Malibu
Speaker 4: and she has lost it. She wrote a post on
Speaker 4: here this morning and I just thought, oh God, she
Speaker 4: wrote this is the house that I wanted, the house
Speaker 4: I prayed for, the house I worked in blood, sweat
Speaker 4: and tears for the house. I put a keypad instead
Speaker 4: of a keyhole in the front door because I wanted
Speaker 4: all my family and friends to have a code and
Speaker 4: to use the house whenever they wanted. This is the
Speaker 4: house where I found peace after battling with racist neighbors
Speaker 4: and a community that made me have to buy it
Speaker 4: in a trust within a trust so no one would
Speaker 4: know that a widowed, single black woman with a teenager
Speaker 4: was buying exclusively owned.
Speaker 2: Property on the beach. This was my few house.
Speaker 4: I'm here, the house that I built a movie room
Speaker 4: with dedicated to my sister so she could see films.
Speaker 4: And this is the house where I finally felt like
Speaker 4: I could choose to spend time when and how I
Speaker 4: wanted to.
Speaker 2: It is now gone, and she's put a.
Speaker 4: Lot of pictures and vision and oh, it's just heartbreaking.
Speaker 4: And that is a story of many And I thought
Speaker 4: about Garcell's house in particular this week because there was
Speaker 4: such an emphasis on it during the episode and we
Speaker 4: really got to see, you know, it in its complete state.
Speaker 4: I guess we've seeing little snippets along the way. But
Speaker 4: she was sitting there having that first dinner, and I mean,
Speaker 4: there's nothing on her Instagram, so fingers grass.
Speaker 2: He's okay.
Speaker 4: But I just thought, oh god, it's just you know,
Speaker 4: it was only a few years ago we were watching
Speaker 4: Denise and Camille go through those Malibu fires, and now
Speaker 4: this is even bigger than that.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. You know, a friend of mine she lost
Speaker 1: her home yesterday. She was a friend of mine that
Speaker 1: I knew while I was over there, and she put
Speaker 1: up a post to say thank you to all of
Speaker 1: the people that are homing us like that are how
Speaker 1: do they ease.
Speaker 2: And where do they go?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: You know, that's one of the things that I was thinking.
Speaker 4: You know, Okay, they get the evacuation audits, but where
Speaker 4: do they go?
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand a.
Speaker 4: Lot of the celebrities along that Malibu strip that's their
Speaker 4: holiday home. But when you're getting evacuated, do you get
Speaker 4: sent to a center? Do you have to go to
Speaker 4: a friend's house? What if you don't have a friend's
Speaker 4: house to go to? I mean, the complexities of just
Speaker 4: that getting your pets out. I saw that Airbnb were
Speaker 4: doing a thing where you could reach out to them,
Speaker 4: and you could go and stay there for a week,
Speaker 4: but like, then, what this is the whole city?
Speaker 2: Our hearts go.
Speaker 4: Out to them, and yeah, it feels it does feel
Speaker 4: a little bit frivolous to talk about an episode recap
Speaker 4: when so much of that is happening. But that show
Speaker 4: is there to bring light and levity to everyone, and
Speaker 4: hopefully we can just park all of that heaviness just
Speaker 4: for a minute so we can do our little recap
Speaker 4: and hopefully bring people a few laughs and get their
Speaker 4: minds off her.
Speaker 1: So this episode is, to me the worst episode. I'm
Speaker 1: going to already go to my Benjamin Norris scoreboard and
Speaker 1: say one star. It was interesting that they gave us
Speaker 1: as much backstory with Bozman, and I think it's a
Speaker 1: bold move because you know, we don't really know her
Speaker 1: and we need her, so it's kind of imperative that
Speaker 1: they do something like this, and they hadn't done that
Speaker 1: with some previous newbies before for us to get something
Speaker 1: so in depth, But it was really flat, Like I'd
Speaker 1: been loving Bozman up until that point, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, Eh, maybe this is why we don't get
Speaker 1: to see backstories like that for new bees.
Speaker 4: Well, it was interesting in that I felt the same.
Speaker 4: I didn't necessarily hate it as much as what you
Speaker 4: were sort of saying, but I was like, oh, this
Speaker 4: is very different because it was taking Garcel with her
Speaker 4: beach house story and her son, and then Erica's decorating,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 2: Bozman with this new guy, which, by the way, I thought,
Speaker 2: this is ballsy if.
Speaker 4: You're bringing him on camera that it sound like they've
Speaker 4: been together for three months, and it was all very
Speaker 4: new and it was such a deep dive into each
Speaker 4: of those stories. We actually didn't have much group interaction
Speaker 4: until I think there was a scene with Deret and
Speaker 4: Erica talking about Phoenix doing the ballet and then Derete
Speaker 4: talking to Bose about the therapy session. Until we got
Speaker 4: to that final scene, there wasn't a group shot. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it was a very different one. And maybe we have
Speaker 4: spoken about this before, but that is intentional from the
Speaker 4: producers so that every episode doesn't get hounded online as
Speaker 4: being so heavy and toxic and dark and this, and
Speaker 4: that they're trying to.
Speaker 2: Add all these extra ayism in there.
Speaker 1: But it does feel like Deret is carrying this whole
Speaker 1: series on her back, because the only times we got
Speaker 1: storylines between the women, as you mentioned, was Derete talking
Speaker 1: to either Erica or Bothman, and we saw no Kyle.
Speaker 1: We saw no Kathy, thankfully, we saw no Jennifer Tilly. Really,
Speaker 1: it was bizarre to me. It felt like Kyle must
Speaker 1: have sent Andy Cohen an email and said, ps of
Speaker 1: going to the snow fuck you have a good time
Speaker 1: filming the show.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're so right. There was something.
Speaker 4: There was something so different about it that we have
Speaker 4: not seen in fifteen seasons. You are so fourteen, so
Speaker 4: wherever we're up to that is so right. It did
Speaker 4: feel like there was a break or something else going on,
Speaker 4: and they've thought we have to you know, it's like
Speaker 4: all the stuff that they would have popped maybe a
Speaker 4: couple of minutes in as Villa, they've suddenly picked it
Speaker 4: back up off the cutting room floor and said, well,
Speaker 4: we're just going to have to plunk this in.
Speaker 2: There because this is all we have for this week.
Speaker 4: And it's not to say that some of it wasn't interesting.
Speaker 4: It was just very drawn out for each of those stories.
Speaker 4: It's not that I don't want to see what Erica
Speaker 4: is doing, but I don't need a full.
Speaker 2: Back catalog of every house.
Speaker 4: That this guy's designed and exactly what they're going to
Speaker 4: do in each room, Like it was very, very elaborate.
Speaker 2: For such simple storylines.
Speaker 1: I just finished with that man leaving the house, the
Speaker 1: designer with Erica, and he was like, well that it
Speaker 1: was great, you know, really looking forward to it. I
Speaker 1: was thinking, Erica can't afford to do any of this.
Speaker 1: She is wasting your time, my friend, that.
Speaker 4: Is going to be yeah, Instagram hashtag partner, hashtag sponds,
Speaker 4: hashtag gifted, hashtag ad whatever she can do to get
Speaker 4: those bucks off the bill.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of the time that my girlfriend rang
Speaker 1: me and said, let's go to Louis Vauton. And we
Speaker 1: went to Louis Vuitton and we looked around, we tried
Speaker 1: stuff on think she bought like a like a purse
Speaker 1: for her keys, like it was like this big, it
Speaker 1: was a tiny the cheapest thing. Yeah, yeah, and we left.
Speaker 1: That's her. She's like, thank you for coming. I really
Speaker 1: like your ideas. Can you please style the toilet rollholder?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, or like thanks for your ideas, but now
Speaker 4: I'm going to go to Walmart and get that mirror
Speaker 4: that you talked about and I'll just I'll just get
Speaker 4: Mikey and the glam squad to, like, you know.
Speaker 1: Pop it in before we go away from Bozeman. What
Speaker 1: do you think of her man?
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought he was nice. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh, I get a little bit red flag with some
Speaker 4: of these guys that pop up on the show and
Speaker 4: they've only been seeing them a couple of months, and
Speaker 4: you know, and then he was talking about marriage and
Speaker 4: that's the only reason.
Speaker 2: That he dates.
Speaker 4: I just sort of thought, oh, girl, be careful and
Speaker 4: she's smart cooking. And she said that she'd had a
Speaker 4: bad relationship, just coming out of one that seemed quite
Speaker 4: quick as well, and I thought.
Speaker 2: That's now, you put this guy on camera. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was just surprised.
Speaker 4: I was surprised at that It felt like she hadn't
Speaker 4: really thought that through.
Speaker 1: The chemistry was not great, and her weave was not
Speaker 1: great either, like in the wind, like I hadn't realized
Speaker 1: that the bore her.
Speaker 4: Oh her weave, I thought you said her queef. I
Speaker 4: was like, hold up, what ill her weive? Okay, much better,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I know you're quief.
Speaker 1: No, didn't you think the wig was weird?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's got a lot of hair weave going on.
Speaker 4: I think she does that as a side business. I've
Speaker 4: been trying to work out what this eve by Bo's
Speaker 4: thing is on her Instagram, and I think it's hair
Speaker 4: weaves and stuff. So maybe she's just using every episode
Speaker 4: as a bit of a different you know, hashtag ad
Speaker 4: that looks like a weave, a weave that needs to leave.
Speaker 2: It was just so destryed Tymon Cow. It's a no
Speaker 2: from me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think she's so beautiful though, Like I
Speaker 4: love her smile, I love her energy she is. I
Speaker 4: just am loving her with every episode. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: just I can kind of see what they're trying to
Speaker 4: do because I think with Anna, Marie and Crystal, maybe
Speaker 4: the reason that people were bonding to them as quick
Speaker 4: as because we didn't see as much backstory. And I
Speaker 4: think the producers have taken a bit of that feedback
Speaker 4: on and gone, Okay, well we need to start bringing
Speaker 4: people in a lot quicker with these newbies so they
Speaker 4: feel like they know them a bit better, they can
Speaker 4: bond to them a bit better, they understand their background.
Speaker 2: So I understan down what they were trying to do,
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it quite.
Speaker 1: Worked and how awkward was Boseman trying to react to
Speaker 1: what Durit was trying to say about her first counseling
Speaker 1: session with PK, like as she was like, what, oh, no,
Speaker 1: it was so weird. I feel like she had to
Speaker 1: really reach to sort of interact with it because what
Speaker 1: did you make of Derete's retelling of her counseling session.
Speaker 4: Well, it's so hard because is she exaggerating? Is this
Speaker 4: another you know, secret sort of thing about their marriage
Speaker 4: that we haven't been privy to? And I think it's
Speaker 4: you know, Boseman didn't know PK, he didn't know them
Speaker 4: as a couple. He's got you know, that was a
Speaker 4: very one sided chat because what was she going to
Speaker 4: do defend PK. She doesn't even know the guy, so
Speaker 4: of course she's going to lean heavily into Derete's side.
Speaker 4: Take everything that she's saying of face value. Had that
Speaker 4: conversation happen.
Speaker 2: With Erica, I don't know whether it would have been
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 1: What do you think My concern for Jarte and for
Speaker 1: pa is this is a lot of information to be
Speaker 1: putting out to the universe about their divorce, and I
Speaker 1: just really worry for those children because at some point,
Speaker 1: those kids are going to watch all of this back
Speaker 1: and it's very toxic and it's very uncomfortable. And I
Speaker 1: just don't think, I mean, this whole show is about
Speaker 1: putting your real life on television, and I understand that.
Speaker 1: I just think Jury might be oversharing, and if she
Speaker 1: is exaggerating, I think that's a really dangerous territory to
Speaker 1: be in because those kids are going to watch all
Speaker 1: this back and they're going to have a reaction to that,
Speaker 1: you know, in years to come.
Speaker 4: And the irony of that whole situation is that she's
Speaker 4: going so out of her way to protect the kids
Speaker 4: as we're seeing it play out to the point where
Speaker 4: you know, she fired back at Sutton again when Sutton said.
Speaker 2: Well, you can't keep the kids unaware forever.
Speaker 4: She's really really primal about keeping the kids away from this,
Speaker 4: And you're so right. It's the irony of it all
Speaker 4: when it's going to turn around, you know, when those
Speaker 4: kids finally watch the episodes, they're going to be seeing
Speaker 4: it all like she is mentioning it all, honey, and.
Speaker 1: Then feel like we're getting the side hustle as to
Speaker 1: where Deret's going to go and that is stage mama
Speaker 1: likes in Phoenix is amazing, and like we all got
Speaker 1: to see that over the Christmas break, We've got to
Speaker 1: see her in real time still doing her dancing and
Speaker 1: her singing. But I was like, oh, Dearite was born
Speaker 1: to be a stage mum.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she could lean right into that lean writing.
Speaker 4: But look, Phoenix looks I watched those social media clips.
Speaker 4: I mean, she she's got it. She's got the star power,
Speaker 4: she's got the talent. So I mean, look, if Deret
Speaker 4: loses their paycheck, come on in Phoenix, she's going to
Speaker 4: be holding up the fort getting that in Sceno mansioned
Speaker 4: back from pre foreclosure.
Speaker 1: Who do you think would be a worse stage mum,
Speaker 1: Derete or PK Dreid For sure, Nok is on the
Speaker 1: other side. Deret is behind Curt number one, PK is
Speaker 1: behind Kurt number two, and PK is there like yelling
Speaker 1: at Phoenix, yeah, get the cash.
Speaker 4: He just needs the cash. Whatever, whoever's bringing that cash.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't care who's behind the curtain, not at all, you.
Speaker 1: Know, talking about the children of these women, did you
Speaker 1: feel like with Garsel talking about her first son. You
Speaker 1: know him being on the show, don't you think that
Speaker 1: her relationship with him is quite fragile and he seems
Speaker 1: a bit fragile. That to me seems like a bit
Speaker 1: of a no go zone. I mean, I guess that
Speaker 1: she's opening herself up and allowing us to see her story,
Speaker 1: and you know, I can clap for that, but I
Speaker 1: just worry about putting that relationship out there because I
Speaker 1: think that also doesn't have the ability to put that
Speaker 1: much pressure on that.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it was I mean, it was very
Speaker 4: much emotional and very private, and she's obviously been through
Speaker 4: a lot of struggles with him and his addiction. I
Speaker 4: thought it was good for Garcel, like I enjoyed watching
Speaker 4: that as a viewer, and particularly because we were like, well,
Speaker 4: what are you bringing to the tape besides sort of
Speaker 4: picking up on other people's stuff. So I thought that
Speaker 4: part of it was valuable. But to your point, I
Speaker 4: feel like we're the fragility. Where it's potentially going to
Speaker 4: be an issue is if he had a relapse. His
Speaker 4: situation is very much out there and not so much
Speaker 4: that that would be detrimental for her, but degimental for him.
Speaker 4: You know, he's still only in his early thirties. By
Speaker 4: the sounds of it, I think he's thirty three or something.
Speaker 2: I'm not too sure what he does for a living,
Speaker 2: but you know he goes for a job, right, So yeah,
Speaker 2: and there, they didn't know any of that.
Speaker 4: They've just taken him on face value and seeing his
Speaker 4: CV and seeing someone who's quite together.
Speaker 2: Now he might be in a bad spot if they go, well,
Speaker 2: hang on a second, we think you might be a risk.
Speaker 4: I don't know how that all works into I've never
Speaker 4: dealt with anyone that has those type of issues, but
Speaker 4: I did feel like that last night.
Speaker 2: I thought, Oh, you want to hope things stay on
Speaker 2: a good track for him.
Speaker 1: Were you emotional though watching her tell? That's because that
Speaker 1: was something I talked about with a friend of mine yesterday,
Speaker 1: and she said she had no emotion to watching it,
Speaker 1: that it was a very very emotional scene with her
Speaker 1: retelling of that story, but there was somehow limited connection
Speaker 1: to what it was as well. I don't know how
Speaker 1: did you feel.
Speaker 2: I was quite you know, compelled and engaged in the story.
Speaker 4: It was one of those moments where you sort of
Speaker 4: felt a bit like like that must have been really scary.
Speaker 4: And an awful time, and for her as a mother,
Speaker 4: and obviously she wouldn't have had the financial backing behind
Speaker 4: her that she probably does now. And how did they
Speaker 4: get into rehab? I did think about all of that,
Speaker 4: and so I feel like for her us getting an
Speaker 4: insight into more of her background and her family life
Speaker 4: and those sort of family dynamics and the struggles.
Speaker 2: I quite enjoyed it on that level.
Speaker 1: I was like, get to the viper room. I'm like,
Speaker 1: by the time we had been to Bozman's backstory, Garsell's backstory,
Speaker 1: Erica's backstory, this was a real opportunity for viewers to
Speaker 1: see what the show would look like if Kyle wasn't
Speaker 1: on the show, and it's just not strong enough. So
Speaker 1: I was like, get me to the viper room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 4: And I think just having no other sort of dynamics
Speaker 4: going on between the ladies separately, I think that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a good way to go
Speaker 4: for the show. I understand they're trying to calm it
Speaker 4: down a bit, but I don't think it's as compelling.
Speaker 1: Have you been to the viper room?
Speaker 2: No, I've never been over there. What I've never been
Speaker 2: to la.
Speaker 1: Oh, well we need to cancel the podcast now.
Speaker 2: Well I don't think Nail's the time to go.
Speaker 1: No, no, So the Viper Room we finally got to
Speaker 1: see what we've been teased for the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Another show down for Kyle and Durite. How did it
Speaker 1: all sit with you?
Speaker 2: First of all, can we just get to the sutton
Speaker 2: of it all? That woman? I know I say this
Speaker 2: every week, but it just gets worse every week.
Speaker 4: Her volatility, her ratic, you know, engagement with the women.
Speaker 4: I cannot believe she would sit there, first of all,
Speaker 4: jumping in telling Dread about the kids. Well, you can't
Speaker 4: shield the kids forever, which okay, but again I agree
Speaker 4: with Erica and stuff.
Speaker 2: It was all in the delivery. But then to go
Speaker 2: off the way she did. We're not friends.
Speaker 4: I want to be cordial, screaming talk to your real friend,
Speaker 4: talk to your real friend.
Speaker 2: She is insane? What is fun with her?
Speaker 1: I can't This is the first season that I'm actually
Speaker 1: enjoying sudden.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, because she's so unpredictable.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be really vain or whatever it is
Speaker 1: about this. I'm going to be really shallow and say
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying how crazy she is purely on the fact
Speaker 1: that she has finally got her look right for the show.
Speaker 1: She looks stunning. Oh, she looks stunning, gugeous. Like every
Speaker 1: other season before she looked like a tamagotchi watch from
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. But now that hair is on point,
Speaker 1: her makeup at a point I don't know who her
Speaker 1: surgeon is. Her styling is so much better. Like in
Speaker 1: the previous seasons they used to put her in like
Speaker 1: a ratsack and just walk around us, and she would
Speaker 1: tell us it was cardiac, like, yeah, well, you know.
Speaker 4: The clothing she used to kind of wear was the
Speaker 4: Jennifertilli stuff really like coutua, like out there a little
Speaker 4: bit hard. Yeah, yeah, so I agree with you. Look
Speaker 4: she looks amazing, but that doesn't stop the cray kray.
Speaker 4: And it was interesting last night watching Bozeman kind of
Speaker 4: cotton onto it and she was like, hang on a second,
Speaker 4: she's either Delulu or she's actually quite calculated and mean.
Speaker 4: And then I just thought, Wow, you know how vindicated
Speaker 4: must Erica feel, thinking she was really the first main
Speaker 4: culprit where she really went after her with all that
Speaker 4: Tom Girardi stuff. Then she went after Kyle, and now
Speaker 4: it's happening again and people are actually opening.
Speaker 2: Their eyes and going, hang on a second, this is
Speaker 2: so true. This is what she does. And I just
Speaker 2: thought that must be a good moment for Erica. And
Speaker 2: amongst all that craziness, I just.
Speaker 1: Don't think anyone's ever been read as well as the
Speaker 1: way that Bozeman's reading some of these people. And that
Speaker 1: read that she gave of Sudden was so accurate, and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, and someone's going to now take
Speaker 1: her to task. And so I think even I don't
Speaker 1: know how she phrased it, but she sort of said,
Speaker 1: you know, she better not go after me first. That's yeah, move.
Speaker 1: And I feel as though she is going to go
Speaker 1: after Bozeman. And I cannot wait for the tactics of
Speaker 1: Bozman on how she's going to address Sudden and how
Speaker 1: she's going to dress her down.
Speaker 4: That'll be like a chihuahua trying to go after like
Speaker 4: a polar bear, do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 4: it will absolutely she will get torn to shreds. I
Speaker 4: feel like that dynamic. She could tell she was toying
Speaker 4: with it last night when she addressed her and said,
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't like that term weaponize, and then
Speaker 4: both said look, I think you could be dangerous and
Speaker 4: she was like, well, I'm not like she was laughing,
Speaker 4: she was toying with it, just testing it out.
Speaker 2: But I feel like you're right that time will come
Speaker 2: and it will be messy.
Speaker 1: Sun's a little bit like Rove McManus. If they don't
Speaker 1: know what to do, they just start yelling.
Speaker 2: Well, yell, she did, and I feel like, down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's just it's crazy to think that with all
Speaker 4: the drama around Kyle and to read the worst of
Speaker 4: it comes out of Sutton and we weren't even expecting.
Speaker 1: It, Isn't it weird though, that we're moving into the
Speaker 1: Kyle and to read of it all, it's so interesting
Speaker 1: that Kyle is so wrong in what it is that
Speaker 1: she's trying to defend. But yet I'm still on Kyle's side.
Speaker 1: None of my friends would ever be texting the X.
Speaker 1: That is a no go zone. No one would do that.
Speaker 1: That is gay code, that is girl code. We don't
Speaker 1: do that. But I still was watching Kyle and thinking, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of on your side.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as in, like, have you flipped because obviously when
Speaker 4: the fight was starting, when the season started, we were like,
Speaker 4: we're both on team Dreed.
Speaker 2: So are you meaning like overall you're now on team
Speaker 2: Kyle or.
Speaker 4: Just in regards to this texting situation, you feel like
Speaker 4: you can understand her point more where she's like, well,
Speaker 4: we send memes and jokes, I don't need to do
Speaker 4: it anymore.
Speaker 1: She was definitely lying to cover it up. She was
Speaker 1: definitely lying to cover it all up. But at the
Speaker 1: same time I was I could hear the earnestness in
Speaker 1: her voice, and I just believe that her connection with
Speaker 1: Pik at this point might be stronger and she met
Speaker 1: them both at the same time. I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: I feel like if I was going to put money
Speaker 1: on a horse, I would put money on the horse
Speaker 1: being Kyle's friendship with Pico over putting money on the
Speaker 1: horse of Derey.
Speaker 4: You know, well it's yeah, well it is getting that
Speaker 4: way now. I mean, look, I kind of we talked
Speaker 4: about that a couple of weeks ago, where we said,
Speaker 4: you know, would you text you know?
Speaker 2: And we said no.
Speaker 4: But I understand her sort of going, look, well we
Speaker 4: had been sending these jokes. I don't need to do
Speaker 4: it anymore, and I'm sorry. But when she started screaming
Speaker 4: and really getting irate, and Darreite was saying, the veins
Speaker 4: are popping out of your head, I think she did
Speaker 4: take it to a place where it didn't need to go.
Speaker 4: I think she should have probably at that point back
Speaker 4: down and said I really honestly didn't give it a thought.
Speaker 4: I've had a lot going on. I understand your point,
Speaker 4: and I'll stop doing it, and that's the end of it.
Speaker 2: It didn't need to.
Speaker 4: Get to such an ugly place. I think Durite was
Speaker 4: raising it quite calmly at the start.
Speaker 2: It only turned.
Speaker 4: Really sour, really crazy towards the end. And I don't
Speaker 4: think her calling dreat bitter was any more helpful. I thought, well,
Speaker 4: hang on, you've asked for grace when you've gone through
Speaker 4: your divorce, and now you're turning around throwing around phrases
Speaker 4: like that when she's just at the start of her
Speaker 4: journey with it all. I thought, well, that's pretty double
Speaker 4: stand it.
Speaker 1: But it also to me was really interesting how the
Speaker 1: women all were like, oh, this is where we make
Speaker 1: our paycheck, because it clearly was a conversation that everyone
Speaker 1: knew was going to camera, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like a little bit of banter amongst the girls we're
Speaker 1: at the viproum Erica Jane that bunweave looks amazing, and
Speaker 1: then they were like, but the paycheck is Durit's going
Speaker 1: to take Kyle to task over something we've all been
Speaker 1: talking about behind the scenes, and that is do you
Speaker 1: text the ex us. I felt like with Kyle, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of work going on in her face. We're
Speaker 1: starting to see a lotastic surgery, Like she and Kathy
Speaker 1: are starting to look very similar because they're clearly going
Speaker 1: to the same person. But it was almost as though
Speaker 1: that vein that was in the middle of her head
Speaker 1: is the only real thing that's still there.
Speaker 4: Look, I agree that, Yeah, there's been a lot of
Speaker 4: stuff happening. There's been a lot of appointments, I you.
Speaker 2: Know, to each their own. Have the lips gone a
Speaker 2: bit far from me?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 4: But look, she does look phenomenal overall, Like she is,
Speaker 4: bitch's gorgeous. She was wearing that black sandy from Greece
Speaker 4: like crun number. I mean, there's not many people that
Speaker 4: can pull that off, So hats off.
Speaker 1: But Washington phenomenal, like I would, we would sell our
Speaker 1: bodies to be her, Like she looks great. But I
Speaker 1: just was like in that moment, whether it was the
Speaker 1: big hair, it just accentual, accentuated sort of all of
Speaker 1: the work that she'd had done. And it was the
Speaker 1: reason why I'm talking about something that's so shallow about
Speaker 1: her look is that I wonder whether or not she
Speaker 1: would relate to these women better and jow more authenticity
Speaker 1: about what she's saying if she hadn't had all that work.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like it's a very
Speaker 1: cold face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like they're all they're all getting
Speaker 4: their nips and tucks and tweaks and all of that.
Speaker 4: But I just feel like when I'm watching her in
Speaker 4: these scenes, I just keep thinking pot kettle black or
Speaker 4: like that's rich coming from you, because I feel like,
Speaker 4: and maybe because she does have that og status, she's
Speaker 4: really expected a lot of gray. So, I mean, we
Speaker 4: think about that scene at the dinner party last year
Speaker 4: where Sutton was asking her about is something going on
Speaker 4: in your personal life? Is something going on in your marriage?
Speaker 4: Why aren't you wearing your brin? And she was like well,
Speaker 4: what else do you want from me?
Speaker 2: Raahrah lahrah.
Speaker 4: She was getting very defensive and she wanted everyone to
Speaker 4: give her grace to back off. And then I feel
Speaker 4: like with Dreat she's not doing any of that with her.
Speaker 4: She's calling her bitter. She's screaming in her face. She
Speaker 4: I mean the preview that I've seen for next week.
Speaker 4: She's talking about that, and she says, the last time
Speaker 4: I got that angry was with Camille Grammar. It's season one,
Speaker 4: which is the iconic You're such a fucking liar of
Speaker 4: Camille that clip. She said, I have not been that
Speaker 4: angry since then. But why why are you getting so angry?
Speaker 4: Dri should be the one which you know she was
Speaker 4: getting slightly angry, but I don't feel like she was
Speaker 4: at Kyle's level, and I feel like she had more
Speaker 4: right to be.
Speaker 1: I think she's just getting sick of what's going on.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Duret's going to take her to task
Speaker 1: every episode about everything. She'll be like going after her
Speaker 1: for everything. What's it going to take for Dered to back.
Speaker 4: Off Kyle an apology about diminishing their friendship. I think
Speaker 4: that's the core of the herb for Derete, and I
Speaker 4: think until she says, look, I was talking.
Speaker 2: Out of spite. I was nasty.
Speaker 4: We did have a real friendship, and I tried to
Speaker 4: throw it under the bus and talk publicly about it
Speaker 4: in a way that wasn't accurate.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if she'll do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she'll do that, to be honest,
Speaker 1: we got it to be continued, which I thought was
Speaker 1: really annoying because I'm like, what, we've just come back, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it to be continued with an
Speaker 1: episode when you've returned from the Christmas period was the
Speaker 1: right thing to do because and we.
Speaker 2: Had to be continued on the premiere.
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, and I was like, are we going
Speaker 1: to get it to be continued? Are they going to
Speaker 1: stick a Kyle and Derete fight at the end of
Speaker 1: these episodes to sort of pap us with the pull
Speaker 1: through because they didn't give us a preview of next
Speaker 1: week at the time. Yes, you can go now watch
Speaker 1: it online, but we didn't get the preview of next week.
Speaker 1: I just felt like that to be continued would have
Speaker 1: been fine if we had, you know, coming up for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season of the Real Housewives of
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. This is what's going to happen. Made that
Speaker 1: feel a little less What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I actually i'd sort of like hit stop on my
Speaker 4: remote and then I thought, oh no, I must have
Speaker 4: not watched the trailer, and I went to rewatch it,
Speaker 4: and then I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: There is no trailer. So I agree with you. It does.
Speaker 4: It does feel very dissatisfying as a viewer when you
Speaker 4: feel like you're putting all this time in watching all
Speaker 4: these laborious bullshit backstories, you know, for fifteen minute chunks,
Speaker 4: we get the real juice at the end, and then
Speaker 4: we don't get the trailer.
Speaker 2: You do feel, yeah, a little bit like flat.
Speaker 1: Did you read about the rumors that Kyle Richards is
Speaker 1: having a same sex relationship with Kesher.
Speaker 4: The rumors and the nastiness that's little Salt Lake City reference. Well,
Speaker 4: we saw all the stuff playing out with Kesha. I mean,
Speaker 4: I just Kesher. I was like, she was talking about
Speaker 4: her like she was Sabrina Carpenter. I was like, we
Speaker 4: have not had a song from Kesha in like what
Speaker 4: twenty years, and now she's on the red carpet and
Speaker 4: she's talking about Kesha like we're all supposed to know her,
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, yeah, that throwback chick, I
Speaker 4: don't know, weird.
Speaker 1: It was so random. It was so random, like and
Speaker 1: Kesha is so iconic to the year two thousand, like
Speaker 1: with the dogs signs in her name, like you are
Speaker 1: from when The Hills was on TV? What are you
Speaker 1: hundred what are you doing here? Like if she turned
Speaker 1: up on the Hills back in the day one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm still I feel like Kyle, you know, And a
Speaker 4: lot of people are saying this online now because there
Speaker 4: was a clip that recently resurfaced she was wearing her
Speaker 4: wedding ring again and people like are we just being
Speaker 4: played with this? Kyle and Mauricio thing like is this
Speaker 4: even real?
Speaker 2: Is this all the play? What is happening here?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: And I feel like she's playing into it too by
Speaker 4: sort of saying, oh that clip, you know, Kesha's my friend,
Speaker 4: she's a musician. Let the rumors start like she I
Speaker 4: don't know. I can't with this game. It's gone on
Speaker 4: a long time. Just tell us what is happening.
Speaker 1: If you had to put money on being done for TV.
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's not real, it's being staged, it's
Speaker 1: being for a paycheck. Whose divorce storyline would you be
Speaker 1: least surprised turned out to be just for camera? De
Speaker 1: Reat and PKS or Kyle and Marizio's.
Speaker 4: Kyler Marizzio's I thought that at the start. I was like,
Speaker 4: it's the thing that's always stuck with me about the
Speaker 4: Kyle and Mauricio thing. We never found out the reason.
Speaker 4: We never found out the reason why they were split.
Speaker 4: And then she's been protecting him, she's been defending him.
Speaker 4: Then she gives us little nuggets like, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe down the line, you know, we might get back together.
Speaker 4: She hasn't gone to see his conduct. It's like she
Speaker 4: hasn't admitted that they're fully split, and we've never got
Speaker 4: the reason. We never got the anger from her in
Speaker 4: regards to what he had done, not done or whatever,
Speaker 4: you know. Like with the read, I feel like, Okay,
Speaker 4: well she's really turned the tables. She's hanging PK out
Speaker 4: to drive, but we're getting a bit more insight, whereas
Speaker 4: Kyle I never found like we got that, So maybe
Speaker 4: she's done that so they could get back together.
Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you think.
Speaker 1: I think the Derete and PK are staging all of
Speaker 1: that for some reason. I'm staying I think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like they're going to get back together and they're
Speaker 1: going to be back to schmoopy woopy boopy baby, PK
Speaker 1: my love.
Speaker 2: You know, it's the leish, theleish.
Speaker 4: Well, the only thing that makes me think the Derete
Speaker 4: and PK thing could be real, which again we'll probably
Speaker 4: never get the answer to this, but is like what
Speaker 4: we've talked about, if there is some financial situation where
Speaker 4: he's going to get taken for something, potentially there was
Speaker 4: a window for her to separate herself and get out
Speaker 4: of it legally. If they were separated and it was
Speaker 4: going to be better for them from that sort of standpoint,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if that. But that's all purely
Speaker 4: conjecture and that's just my opinion. But the Kylam I
Speaker 4: don't know something about it is just a little bit strange.
Speaker 1: I do hope that Dreit gets out of this alive.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do feel bad with her, with her
Speaker 1: losing her house and all of that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: that we're only really reading about. In real time. How
Speaker 1: many Alana maclean's are you giving this episode?
Speaker 4: Oh? I think this was I think this was a three,
Speaker 4: but only just if the three is based on getting
Speaker 4: it up from a two point five, just for that
Speaker 4: scene at the end. But that's me being generous and
Speaker 4: the second coffee has kicked in, so that is why
Speaker 4: I'm giving it a three.
Speaker 1: I'm giving it one star. Oh one Savage, I'm not impressed.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just so invested in wanting more Kyle
Speaker 1: Richards on an episode like I just felt like saving
Speaker 1: her to the end. I felt starved by that point,
Speaker 1: like I was like, oh, please get me there and
Speaker 1: then Whilst the fight was very iconic and I do
Speaker 1: appreciate their reference back to the Camille Grammar fight in
Speaker 1: season one, I just felt like we're now seeing a
Speaker 1: very similar scenario where we're at an event and the
Speaker 1: two girls are screaming at each other, and I'm like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we've seen this, Like yeah, I wouldn't mind that conversation
Speaker 1: to be held in a different forum. I wouldn't mind, Like,
Speaker 1: do you remember the Lisa Renna Kathy Hilton sit down
Speaker 1: at the end of two seasons ago, yeh. They got
Speaker 1: to just be sitting around the couch and have a conversation.
Speaker 1: And whilst it got heated and there was you know,
Speaker 1: but they got to the meat of the problem. They
Speaker 1: were like, this is the problem, Kathy, where It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel that's what we need to see now.
Speaker 1: We need to see Darreit and Kyle have a moment
Speaker 1: away from this, away from the drama, and actually have
Speaker 1: a heart to heart about their friendship. Because if any
Speaker 1: of my friends were at this point and they were
Speaker 1: at lockerheads, they would sit down now and have a
Speaker 1: conversation and try and work it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, we need to see it, We
Speaker 4: need to see it in a different setting. We need
Speaker 4: to see it without the input of the extra people
Speaker 4: throwing fuel onto the fire. Because last week we were
Speaker 4: in the midst of that and then all the Camille
Speaker 4: Grammar stuff, and we're in the midst of that this week,
Speaker 4: and then Sutton sticks her stupid mouth in the whole thing.
Speaker 4: So it's getting diluted and complicated and confusing, and I
Speaker 4: feel like Durete and Kyle are you know, they're quite
Speaker 4: measured people. I feel like they could get to the
Speaker 4: other side of it if all that messiness was taken
Speaker 4: out of the equation. So you're right, and I think
Speaker 4: definitely they were reaching from a production point of view
Speaker 4: to give us something lighter, potentially because they had nothing
Speaker 4: else to give us until that final scene.
Speaker 2: But to be continued, but to be continued, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: you've got a busy day. You need to go get
Speaker 2: yourself sorted.
Speaker 1: I know, we need to go and do something, Creio. Bye,
Speaker 1: bye bye