WEBVTT - #7 - Nolan Cox 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.960 Welcome back to the Mason Cox Show. This is Nolan 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.520 Cox filling in for Mason. He is right next to me, 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:12.879 so we're gonna get this thing cracking. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:17.640 Mason kick us off seven platforms, Facebook, it's the great 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:23.520 of Twitter, TikTok, YouTube, Apple Music, have a podcast, and spotifox. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.119 Those are the seven Nolan's. He started off on a 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:28.560 very good note. Yes, it is a very bit of 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.560 a weird one. I've got my family in here. He's 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:32.479 probably gonna asoutely roast me, so I'm a bit nervous 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.240 going into this, but I think it's gonna be great fun. 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:36.680 But yeah, check us out on seven platforms like comment 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:38.920 everything else, and we've got some amazing stuff coming up. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.120 But this one is a very special one, being family 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.520 in town at the moment and doing one with a brother. Now, 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.080 I don't really know. There's gonna be a lot to 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:48.519 cover here. It's gonna be a lot to cover. You've 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.800 known me for thirty one years. Thirty one years. Nolan 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.680 is a little bit older than I am, so he's 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.920 known me for thirty one years, and he's known all 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.280 the juicy details in the hot gosspt behind the scenes. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.200 So I'm a bit nervous. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:02.920 I am a bit nervous, but I will intro you 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:04.760 as I do everyone, and it's probably gonna sound very 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.720 much like me. He grew up in Dallas, Texas, played 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.000 basketball Oklahoma State University. That was a highlight of his 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.199 athletic career. Wait, no hold on. He also played footy 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.240 and the us i FL still does now. And he's 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.280 how many times he won the national championship. I think 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.480 we've won five or six, five or six time national championship. Yes, 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.640 he has got way more Grand Final wins than I do. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.480 But he lives in Austin, Texas now and he essentially 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.640 hosts a homeless person during my off season for about 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.520 three weeks. And he's the great man and the brother himself, 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:32.960 the man who's been through a lot with me, and 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:34.040 someone on high respect. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.040 But thanks so much for coming on having me appreciate it. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.679 I like the Austin Crows Garry got there on it is. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:41.640 I've got the calling with hat. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.520 So we're we're swat places anyone doesn't know. Austin Crows 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.760 is the us AFL team he plays on. These are 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:48.520 all the national championships he's won with. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.720 If anybody can kick them all at more than ten meters. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.520 You're you're welcome to come out wing. Yeah, exactly, straight in, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:55.200 go straight in. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:57.920 We'll start because a lot of people it is kind of, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.000 I guess, giving people an intro into not only yourself, 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.440 but also kind of ourselves in general, because we grew 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:04.960 up the same place, grew up and doing the same 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.960 kind of thing. Both played basketball university, like somewhat of 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.760 the same intro into where we're at now. And I 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:12.520 want to cover things because there's so many people who 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.240 ask me so many questions, and I'm sick and tired 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.120 of my opinion of where I grew up, and I 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.480 want to get your opinion on what's going on and 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.000 what is happening in the US, and then also just 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.560 you know, what we can learn from what's going on 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.760 over there. We'll start. We grew up both Dallas, Texas. Now, 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.640 a lot of people say Dallas, Texas. You know, we 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.760 think of cowboys. We think of you know, Indians and 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.840 cowboys and the wild wild West and everyone rides horses 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.840 and everything else. You know, what was it like growing 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.359 up in Texas? 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.959 The Dallas Fort Worth area has eight million people, which 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.480 is three million more in Melbourne. There was no horses, 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.720 there were no cowboys, there were no Indians, and we 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.000 pretty much had the same exact upbringing. Probably is a 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.400 lot of folks here in terms of like just going 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:56.280 to public school and driving on paved roads and yeah, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.959 not having any of the stereotyps that you typically see. 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.320 But down in Texas where I live now, you get 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.160 outside of town, a little bit outside of Austin, and 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.760 there's there's some country to it, right, so like there's 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.240 there's definitely some some horses, ranches, that type of stuff. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.600 So do you get out far enough West Texas and 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.440 Audias like you get some of that. But now where 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.240 we grew up, there's none of that, absolutely none of it. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.160 And uh yeah, pretty typical suburban upbringing. Do you have 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.239 a cowboy hat? Oh? Do you have cowboy boots? I 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.480 have got some cowboy boots. Yeah you have a pearl snap? 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:23.880 I might have a pearl snap. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.359 Okay, we're not helping to start out time, that's right, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:27.120 that's a good point. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.120 Yeah, Well, you gotta go to the country concerts every 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.000 now and then. Yeah, got to be looking the part. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.600 Now, the country music doesn't really exist in Australia. It 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.000 is up in like Tamworth, I think is the big 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.040 Tamworth Country music festival in Australia. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.080 That's the big one. But here in Australia doesn't really exist. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.600 Now back in America, we've got what we call Billy 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.200 Bob's Billy Bob's Texas. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:47.960 A lot of people might some might know that. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.160 I don't know, but it's honkey talk, the world's largest 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.880 honkey talk. Now, if you don't know what a honkey 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.080 talk is, it is, I'll let you describe it. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.000 It's basically like a country dance all. So like in 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:57.760 these small towns, I'm sure back in the day they 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.840 had live music, and they still do some of these 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.880 big dance halls, but yeah, green halls are real famous. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.120 One close to we're at Billy Bob's up in the 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:09.000 Dallas area. But yeah, so it's definitely a place where 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.280 you can be a fake cowboy for a night and 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.400 where those cowboy boots that otherwise never seen the light 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:15.080 of day. Yeah. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.720 And then also there is a rodeo inside Billy Bob's too, 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.040 so you can actually ride a bull within Billy Bob's 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.760 at the same time. If that gives you any idea 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.080 of how country this place is. But there are plenty 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.200 of stuff in America and also in Dallas, it is 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.359 kind of unique to anything else. Now I want to 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.039 obviously talk to you about sport. Now you played football, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.240 I played soccer. Kind of going through high school and 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.760 everything else or college as they call it here before 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.400 we went to university is a few different words that 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:41.200 might get mixed up. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.159 But what was it like in Dallas? 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.200 I know everyone here is obvious football NFL is massive 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.760 in the US, and I try to describe it to 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.599 people of how big it is in Texas, Like maybe 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.760 people have heard of Friday night lights like and things 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.440 like that, of really giving the image of just how 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.760 chaotic and just nuts of a fan base it is. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.480 For like NFL in America. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.839 What was it like being in a big school, like 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.320 a big univer or big school in high school playing 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.240 NFL in that sense, growing up through the system, and 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.640 like we talk about like homecoming, people don't quite understand, 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.919 like what a mom is, you know, and like you 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.760 know what it's like wearing the big leather jacket or 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.880 the school jacket with all the patches and everything else. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:17.800 I've never got one of those. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.719 But yeah, like if it's an idea of I guess 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.000 what it was like playing football in high school and 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:24.039 how big it was for the town. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.560 Yeah, football and high school is a big time, So 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.000 you'd play in front of fifteen twenty thousand every Friday. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.400 So Friday Night basically the way football happens in America. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.279 American football. Thursday Night is like the junior varsity, so 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.360 like it's the you know, basically a year nine through eleven, 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.159 and then Friday night is the big Friday Night Lights 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.680 as I know, and that's the varsity team. So like 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.600 varsity programs play you know, Cross Day or sorry cross 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.640 cross City Rivals and stuff like that, the Friday night 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.800 games like Friday Night Lights. Actually, my coach in high 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.760 school was in the original book that all the movie 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.560 and all the you know, the TV show and a 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.440 that was based off of So out of Permian out 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.240 in West Sexes. But yeah, and Friday Night and then 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.320 Saturday goes into the college game, and then Sunday, of 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.840 course is is the NFL. So it kind of like 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.440 rolls into the weekend with Yeah, nobody really goes to 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.760 the TV game unless yeah, you're lucky enough to have 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.599 a girlfriend sophomore or whatever. It's kind of kind of obligated. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.880 So nobody's coming to my games except mom and dad. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.040 But uh and then yeah, Friday night and they get 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.760 pretty big. It's like some of the bigger rivalries we 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.840 played in like Jerry World, like Cowboys Stadium where they 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.800 where they play because you know, the high school sam 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.040 would just be overflowing. But some of these high school 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.000 stadiums like are you know, multi multimillion dollars stadiums, And 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.599 I mean you'd get bigger crowds than you would it. Oh, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.080 certain teams, yeah we won't. We won't name then, but 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:34.040 North Melt we're not. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:38.760 We hate on North a bit on this just a 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.600 little future tazzy all right, No, but it's like Allen, Texas, 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.599 I think, has like a stadium that holds like fifty 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.160 thousand people, and it's like that's a high school. It's 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.080 not even like a you know, a proper you know, 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.679 it's not even to the point of amateur of college 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.680 like and then you got NFL beyond that. So it's 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.799 tough to describe, like how a whole town will shut 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.520 down for a whole bunch of like, you know, fourteen 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.640 to eighteen year old kids, running around hitting each other, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.159 like it just doesn't really make sense in the grand 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.080 scheme of things, but it is insane and like it's 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.159 football is just the massive thing. Now I played soccer, 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:13.080 which was not watched so much and was not really 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.400 oh gosh, wasn't as interesting to people. Let's say that 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.760 now everyone I went to America though, like everyone here 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.080 kind of plays AFL and Melbourne growing up. A lot 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.120 of kids will play rugby up in Sydney. Now most 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.720 people played soccer growing up. Is that correct, Well, that's weird. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.520 Yeah, Like soccer is definitely the biggest U sport in 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.280 the States, and then you know, when you get to 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:30.960 the high school, it kind of just disappears because like 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.240 it all goes club, right, So like in high school, 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.080 like basketball, you've got like au You've got high school basketball, 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.120 and then football is pretty much just high schools, right. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.800 There's no like club football, club American football, right, like 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.080 soccer is all club so like every it just kind 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.040 of depends on sport. Like baseball is just the high 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.640 school sports. Like there's no club baseball. So it kind 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.440 of is like pretty bizarre the way that they have 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.120 like the clubs versus the high schools and stuff. But yeah, 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.240 you'd definitely need to be going to like camps and 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.200 stuff like that to get recruited for football. But soccer 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.240 was kind of you get a lot more games in 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.200 like high school football, it's ten or fifteen games and 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.400 you're you're done for the season. So like you if 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:06.520 you have about a round and you get hurt your 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.280 junior year when you're getting recruited off, Yeah, exactly so. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.840 But yeah, no high school falls big time. I mean soccer, yeah, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.200 maybe not so much, not so much. We're getting there. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.640 MLS in America is becoming bigger and bigger, is it. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.360 I don't know. We had David Beckham come over there. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.080 I felt like that was a big, big get, big 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.800 get for the LA Galaxy, big get for the LA Galaxy. 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.920 But now we'll talk about more of away from sport 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.320 now people, we're gonna get a little bit deep here. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.079 Now in America, a lot of people will ask me 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:33.640 the first thing they asked about is three things they 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.960 ask about Trump, guns, and religion. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.319 Right, and those will hit all three. And you have 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.040 me on the podcast today. Yeah, I want to talk 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.360 about a lord and say, Jesus. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.600 Christ, I'm just yeah, what is it, like though I 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.680 tell people all the time I go, I go to 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.520 school and on a Sunday if no, like if I 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.520 go into school on a sorry, on a Friday, like 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:52.880 I know I'm going to see a lot of my 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.520 schoolmates on a Sunday. Yep, and they're all going to 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.480 be at church on a Sunday. And that was just 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.800 kind of normalized. Like we're here in Australia, like I 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.480 really would struggle to even know one person that goes 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:02.840 to church. 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:04.800 Yeah, and it's like it blew my mom and I 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:05.200 came here. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.400 If not necessarily like the it's probably just a lack 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.960 of care of religion in a sense of like in America, 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.760 it's so ingrained in politics and culture and you know, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.200 ingrained in families and everything else. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.160 We're here, like we grew up Catholic, Like do I 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:17.080 go to church every Sunday? 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:21.920 No, but most Sundays my mom listens to this podcasts 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.600 or our mom listen to those podcast we do go 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.280 to church every Sunday mom in our heads. But yeah, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.319 now it's it's different, and like what is it luck? 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.120 I guess give us a bit of a description on 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.600 the differences in religion. You know based in America and 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.360 maybe how it's changed. I feel like it's so much 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.360 different now where a lot of people probably aren't as 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.400 heavily religious as they were probably ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.200 Yeah, for sure, now it definitely has gotten less well 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:45.920 at least less problement in our lives. And maybe that's 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.960 like not having families and having kids and stuff like that. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.040 Like I think, once, yeah, it's definitely a good piece 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.280 of structure to like raise a family with, right, So 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:53.800 like I know, you know, we were growing up, we'd 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.120 always want to spend the night at our fend's house 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:56.520 on a Saturday night, and it's like tough, you got 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.240 to get the Mass on Sunday. So but no, I think, yeah, 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.160 it's definitely like gotten less prevalent the older we've gotten 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.559 just just in general and society. But like I think 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.120 a lot of people have also been like a lot 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.240 more open to different ideas and different religions. So like 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.079 when we were growing up, it was, you know, obviously 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.120 predominantly Christian from what we saw on our day to 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:16.560 day lives. But now I think like more and more 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.840 people there's have more exposure to different religions and different face, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.480 and like I think, you know, if nothing else, it's 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.480 just a good way for like people to build this 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.800 sans of community, which is so it's just a cool 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.400 you know, it's a cool thing. So like whether you religis 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.200 or not, Like I definitely like see the value on it. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.040 And it's you know, kind of cool that like people 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.920 can now get into like Buddhism or as long but 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:36.679 whatever they want. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.440 Growing up, it was unique everyone with church Sunday, saw 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.520 your nights there, saw your friends. Mom and dad had 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.600 all their friends from church and everything. Alison, it's just 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.360 very different now moving from religion to the next topic 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.240 of Dallas. Dallas, Texas, and what everyone loves to ask 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.720 is do you own a gun? From mass to mashings great, good, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:54.679 good transition. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.720 No, I don't have any guns. Yeah, I think everybody thinks, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.320 like everyone's just rocking around with like shotguns after their 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.679 back go to the grocery store to get like like 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.280 this has not happened in Texas or anywhere in America. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.760 But now like, no guns for me, no guns for 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:10.920 most of the people I know. Really, like I know 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.240 a few hunters that like have hunting rifles and stuff 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.199 like that, but like nobody's rolling around with like a pistol. 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.360 Strapped to their side. You can, if you want, you 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.439 can have an open care now legally yes you can, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.200 but people don't don't. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:23.280 Not a necessity. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.959 Not a necessity because a lot of people obviously it's 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.480 a massive things we've talked about previously in masshootings anything else, 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.840 and like it is so unique here except Port Arthur' shooting. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.480 Then everyone was like, Noah, give your guns to the government. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.120 We're gonna burn them all and then essentially we'll give 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.440 you a rebite and you'll never see guns in this 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.559 country again unless you need them for farming or whoever. 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.840 It might be where people go to America and they go, 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.839 oh my gosh, like I've never seen a gun before, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:43.120 you know, and then like you getting an uber and 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.719 the guy's got one in his glove box, just coke 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.439 up whatever you want, look a Walmart. But yeah, it's 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.000 it's so different. I think it's it's unique that people 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.200 here always ask about it and it's like so different, 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.040 I guess from Australia and America. 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.439 Most people don't don't have guns. Like the people who 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.320 have their guns love their goals. Yeah, so you hear 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.560 a lot more from those people. And obviously, like you know, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.680 when things go wrong with guns, it goes about as 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.400 wrong as you can get. So like, has it changed 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.360 much in the last five ten years with the idea 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.680 behind that? For sure? Yeah, definitely, the sentiments have changed 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.640 a time, like with the amount of mass shootings and stuff, 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.599 which are just you know ridiculous, Like people at the 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.240 very least right now, like the big pushes just to 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.520 get rid of fully automatic weapons to start, right, like 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.360 you have to start somewhere with this stuff. Like people 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.320 aren't just gonna like give up their guns. And but 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.440 I think the pro gun people are so afraid that 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.040 like all right, once you give them an inch, you'll 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.440 take a mile and they we're going to start taking 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.640 off everything. So like anytime they start really debating, you know, 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.440 gun laws and everything, like amo sales go through the roof, 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.200 people start stocking up like it's about to be World 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.600 War three or something, right, So like that part's pretty while. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.600 But no, I mean I think, yeah, like there's just 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.080 really yeah, hunting rifles, some of that stuff I get, 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.679 but like there's absolutely no need for fully automatic weapon 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.520 and every day life like in what you're literally going 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:52.480 to war, which we are not. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.800 We're not, so yeah, that's not a just nuts. Well, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.640 moving on from guns to a gun loving man that 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.800 is Donald Trump. How was the last four years living 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:02.160 with him? 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.480 In power Bounce? I was like, I'm out real, guys, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:06.440 but you guys enjoy it. 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.680 I'm not dealing with this to the last four years 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.439 have been with your boy, Joe Bio. 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.280 Yeah, your boy keep it on your chest while my portfolio, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.080 could you take an absolute nose? Thanks a lot, sleepy, No. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.520 I mean, look, it's like politics in the US is 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.160 just kind of nuts a while. You can go from 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.000 like hosting everyality show in the press of the United States, 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.240 which uh, maybe not the best and most qualified candidate, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.920 but then you know, like Joe Biden's yea, you'd say, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.960 like very qualified, right time politician and he's been in 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.040 it forever. You know, like there are things that he 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.800 got Delta, like both of them got dealt a pretty 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.840 rough hand with COVID. Like Donald Trump is just like, 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:42.319 I mean, what's. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.080 The wildest thing you said that you just listen to 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.160 and you're like, this is absurd. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.480 My personal favorite and there's a lot is when he 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.640 said he was gonna nuke the hurricane that was New Jersey, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.600 Like what are you talking about? So, like, you know, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.840 from that standpoint, you know, Donald Trump, like, yeah, there's 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:03.480 some fun to like, Yeah, fund is probably not the 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.240 right word. Entertaining is a better better description. But my goodness, 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:10.280 like we're in a new hurricane. Like listen, love me hate. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.280 I'm like, that is the most absurd thing. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.400 I don't think Jane Bond will be reckoned out of 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.240 recommending not one no, no. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.480 So, like you know, just having somebody where you never 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.040 never know, like what you're going to look up to 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.880 was that problem is like god knows what else he's 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.360 gonna try to do. So it was pretty unsettling from 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.960 that perspective. But like, yeah, just a total loose cannon. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.280 Like I'm very very glad that he is out of 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.480 office for the time being. I think he's already announced 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.120 twenty twenty four candidacy, but man, yeah, he's hopefully long gone. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:38.680 And then yeah, we need some fresh We need some 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.800 younger folks, like you got these like eighty year olds 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.920 and you're trying to run the country. We need some 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:44.880 people a little bit younger. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.160 And everyone always ideas, oh, can you know BA want 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.800 to come back, just like can we just can you 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.080 just come back, like change the rules? 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:53.720 Like I don't know the power of the president, Like 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.760 you want somebody who at the very least has like 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.880 respect for the office and like presents that they want 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.520 the best for America. And Obama had that, and like 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.840 I don't know that I know that title Trump didad have. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.000 I don't know that we'll have somebody like anytime soon 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.080 that I'll sort of, you know, have the respect to 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.120 the office and the people the way that Obama did. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.360 You know, politics aside, Like I feel like he at 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.160 least wanted what's best for the American people, which is 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.040 like it should be like literally the only prerequisite for 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:20.880 the job. But somehow we've gotten the way from that. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:22.440 So what do you do? 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.000 Un't real Well, our family is somewhat divided whenever it 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.320 comes to to the to the presidential debate at times. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.400 But I will go into the next thing because we 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.240 want to talk about I want talk about family and 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.640 we've got obviously amazing parents. Everyone knows Phil Cox filthy 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.040 Phil Follo him on the Twitter account Phil Cox as 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.480 year one eight. I might regret saying that, but what 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.800 was it like I guess like everyone always asks, you know, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:46.880 like did you grow up playing sport? Did you grow 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.120 up you know, traveling a bunch of sport and everything else, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:50.160 and like what was it like? And I think the 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:51.640 biggest thing I always talk about was like I was 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.440 super lucky that I had a mom who worked, a 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.600 dad who worked, and like you know, was supportive all 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.200 the way through our different athletic careers and everything we did. Yeah, 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.320 and now it's kind of cool to see him somewhat 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.880 getting a return on investment of that and like being 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.680 able to enjoy AFL and he enjoyed us playing soccer 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.120 and basketball and football and everything else. 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:10.840 Like what was it? I guess what would our parents 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:11.920 like growing up? What was it like? 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.440 You know, you know, we all played sport, like all three, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.360 Like we've got another brother, Austin, like, and we all 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.280 three played sport and had two parents and someone I 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.400 jumped around, like being able to put pull us from 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:21.680 place to place to be able to get us the 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:22.760 practice and everything else. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:24.920 What was it like? 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.200 I guess like having the support of family, Like I 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.360 think anyone that would you know, be a professional athlete, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.040 Like it's all about your support group in the circle 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.360 you have and everything else. What's it like having Phil 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.080 Cox and Jay Cox's parents. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.000 Nah, they're great man, Like yeah, like you said, I 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.120 mean they work full time jobs and then also coached 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.200 our our soccer teams, our baseball teams and all that stuff, 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.280 like despite having never kicked a soccer ball in their lives, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.880 like all of a sudden, yeah, qualified to be a coach, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.760 coach for the undertens whatever. But jammers Yeah, hey, they 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.840 shout out the Jammer man, the shammers going. We had 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.400 some good squads. No, but they were yeah, I mean 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:58.600 they're kind to be packed full? 0:16:58.720 --> 0:16:58.920 Was it? 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.000 Kind of the craziest thing I can remember from that 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.200 was when we were kids, Like we'd have you know, 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.960 like baseball or soccer whatever all across town. And this 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.280 is like pre cell phone days, Like yeah, you'd like 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.120 have one cell phone for the family that you'd share 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.960 or whatever, and like they'd have to go the night 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.280 before just like playing out the schedule. It's like I'll 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.520 meet you at field seven at like twelve thirty. It's 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.960 like guess what, like if you had a flat tire, 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.959 like you just don't know where you're you know, the 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.600 rest of your family is like hopefully okay, yeah, you know, 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.320 won't be talking to them. So yeah, they used to 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:26.760 play it that and it was like, you know, then 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:28.680 by your senior year of high school, like I ended 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.399 up walking on the basketball team. It'll colon and say it. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.480 So I'm playing in college like four hours away, and 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.159 they're driving up to those games, even though like I'm 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.359 not getting playing time. You know, I got like NBA players, 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.960 I'm sitting behind on the bench right yeah, exactly exactly, 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.000 So like my mom, dadly you don't have to come 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.280 to this stuff. And they're like, listen, we've been coming 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.520 to your games for like fifteen twenty years, you and 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.679 the boys, and like, you know, this is the last year. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.679 It's Mason's last year of high school socer, it's your 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.919 last year of college basketball, which we didn't even think 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:53.960 was going to happen. And then yeah, they got a 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.719 couple of years off and then it's like then you 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.719 walk on and I'm like, oh gosh, like three more 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.639 years of this, but just like you know, pretty cool. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.240 And then are like, all right, now we're definitely done. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.760 Mason's not going to the NBA. This is the last 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.600 game we'll ever have to watch like it's been a 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.879 good run and here we are in a van and 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.760 I'll shut you. Eight years later, I'm on tawnterflying that 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.040 way across the world to watch from ridiculous sport we've 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:16.960 never heard of. So yeah, but no, I mean that's like, 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.320 but that to your point, like your original question, the 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.960 type of support they had, like we had a parent 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.360 at every single game. I like, I've had a parent 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.000 at every single game I've ever played, like a pretty 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.280 much any level sport, which is which is like just 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.960 really lucky, honestly, Like a lot of people don't get 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.360 born into having that support of a family. So like, yeah, 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.280 I mean to your point, like it's cool that film 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.159 ma gets to reap their rewards and just being like 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.639 the biggest footy nuphy earth from at least on the 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.800 continent of North America and on Twitter. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.040 that's that's sure too. So no, it's good man, goodn't 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:50.560 ask for better. I'm going to ask you this because 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:51.320 you mentioned it. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.560 Now a walk on, so we'll go into the college 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.119 guy is now a lot of people don't understand what 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.800 a walk on is. Yeah, can you explain? Because you 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.320 to give a background for everyone else like you're so off. 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:01.840 You were walking on before I got there, four or 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.600 five years beforehand, right, and then four or five years 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:06.959 later I walked onto the basketball team, which is not 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.080 professional level but probably has the money of professionalism as 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:11.840 far as Australia, Like I think there's probably more money 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.160 in Cuba than all of us, like AFL for sure. Sure, 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.560 And so people don't understand I guess like the number 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.640 game behind that and what we did. Can we dive 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.320 into a bit of We'll start with what is a 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.639 walk on because a lot of people don't understand that. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.480 Yeah, So walk on's are the non scholarship players. So 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.159 usually usually the guys who are a little bit of 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.560 like a tackling dummy and football or just yeah, the 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.480 guys that get dunked on during the basketball drills Mason drill. Yeah, 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:35.680 it's usually the white guys at the end of the 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.520 bench wave from the towels. It's like not quite not 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.119 quite there athletically, but like really have a lot of 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.440 spirit about him, you know, really good spirits. Yeah exactly. 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:46.800 So like, no, well I hadn't played high school basketball, right, so, 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.760 like I just once I got tall, I started playing 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.280 a lot of pick up, and then I was like, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.480 you know, well, I tried out for the basketball team 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.639 in seventh grade. Yeah, didn't make it. Tried out in 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.399 nighth grade, didn't make it. Hadn't hit you grosper. It 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.000 didn't hit the grosper. Yeah that's right. And then so 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:00.800 then high school, you know I didn't I've played football 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:02.919 and got into that football. You couldn't get cut from 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.119 the team. So it was like, as long as you 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:05.600 showed up every day, yeah we're on, and we got 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.600 a kids. Then I've tried out for the best. So 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.680 they had tryouts by sophomore year of college. Did make it, didn't. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.040 Senior year. I was like, you know what, give it 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.200 one last crack. Not made the basketball team every other 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.560 time in my entire life dating back to seventh grade, 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:19.800 but somehow. 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.320 Somehow, so there was a there was an actual tryout, 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.960 actual try out, yeah, goes, well, this is just random 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:25.960 kids going university. 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.119 Yeah, just students, Yeah exactly. These are students that like 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.360 are not in school to play sports. So like most 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:31.560 of them, I mean, don't get me wrong, like a 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.200 lot of them played like pretty high level high school 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:34.359 sports and stuff like that. And then they were like, 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.879 oh I could either play like a low small college 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:38.560 or something like that, but I'd rather just like have fun, 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.359 go to college and go to a big school with 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.080 my friends. So like, yeah, you end up like just 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:44.639 in a try out with you know whatever, like one 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.359 hundred other kids. And so yeah, I got lucky and 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.360 ended up like making that. I think they took four 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.560 of us. And uh, yeah, I played my senior year, 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.199 which is pretty sweet. And then you started coming to 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.720 the games. We're playing against you know, pretty big time 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.560 players and uh, the biggest player Pudy ins the most 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.800 fass is probably Blake Griffin, so played him three times. 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.879 Navin Durant though, didn you play Kevin Durant? That was 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.240 the year before I walked on, So yeah at the game, 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.639 but didn't didn't play against him, but yeah, played Griffin. 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:12.480 I wouldn't say I played against play Griffin, but I 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.000 was on the team when we played against them. He 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.600 shook his hand at the end of the game. A 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.960 great game. Yeah, good luck in the Yeah, will be 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.639 watching on TV. Now describe it. So you're walk on now. 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.119 Walk On essentially has everything but scholarship, which is the 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.760 money to go to university and pay for classes and books. 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:30.080 And all this kind of stuff. You know, so like 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.679 you're paying you know, you're going into debt or we 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.480 were fortunate enough God blessed to have my mom and 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.080 dad and helped pay for college. But a lot of 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:37.840 people going to debt pay for university and then go 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:41.359 back and pay that loan off. Now you're a college student, 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.520 you're not getting paid. You're like you're giving all this 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.120 time to this basketball program that's not really giving anything back. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.160 But this experience, what's it? Like I guess was it always? 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:52.920 Because I think people don't understand how big of a 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:54.920 deal it would be to actually walk onto a team, 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:57.040 Like it is a life goal and it's like, man, 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.960 this is gonna be the biggest athletic accomplishment I've ever 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.320 done in my life. Like this is like I remember 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.479 the first time I walked on like it was free close. 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.240 How good is this? And I was like, dude, a 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.440 private jet, we get free Chick fil A? Like what 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:09.920 in the world, Like this is insane? 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:11.200 Nine shoes. 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.440 You're like I had to pay for mushers whole life 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:17.399 and then free Yeah exactly. Now, like the process of 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:19.199 you're getting there is very similar to mine. So you 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.400 actually helped out with the women's team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.160 which is kind of wild. So you go women's team 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:25.480 start kind of I guess, like because both of us 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.679 never played basketball growing up, and we start playing the 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:29.320 local rec league, and then the local rec league go 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:30.920 and help out the women's team, and the women's team. 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:32.400 You go into the men's team and then you start 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.000 playing there, right, Like what was it, Like, I guess 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:36.880 how did you get up into the women's team. 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:38.920 Yeah, I just was doing it like the year before, 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:40.280 and he was like, hey, look like they play at 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.399 the big stadium. We basically like have you know, instead 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:43.879 of playing pickup games here at the rec center, like 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.600 you get to play at this like nice fifteen thousand seats. Yeah, 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:48.640 that's pretty cool. And so like you just go rock 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.399 up and they send you the flash cards and they're like, 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:51.840 all right, you're going to be the center, so run 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:53.640 this play and then you run it against the women's 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.159 team and then they'll just unlock the gym. And the 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.639 coaches were awesome, like they'd get us like barbecue and 0:22:57.640 --> 0:22:58.719 buy us a ke get the end of the year 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.520 and the year yeah, big time, big time. Yeah, so 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:04.679 big fan never got that whenever I was in college 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.360 for my own well you know, not that that ever 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.600 really happened, but no, so it's great. Well I think 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:12.399 that actually, like you know, whenever I tried out for 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:14.280 the men's team, I'm sure at some stage they were like, 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.640 you know, like we should get a reference or something. 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.240 And I like to think that like the you know, 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.399 the women's the women's team was like you know, this 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.119 guy's stand up dude or whatever, and uh, you get on, 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:28.000 but because they need just reliable, like you know, solid exactly. 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:29.840 So like, yeah, the women's team thing was just kind 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:31.200 of a fun, knock around thing with my friends, Like 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.280 it wasn't like a big time commitment or anything like that. 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.640 So we're kind of doing them a favor. And then 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:37.840 you know, you start playing on the men's team and 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.080 it's like full on, like you're doing two days morning 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.480 sessions six am that you're doing the afternoons like full 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.040 on practice and then but yeah, the private jets and 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.199 stuff like that. I mean, you know, it's like a 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.960 completely different world than what you have a normal college kid. 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:51.760 Like there was a game that we were I was 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.600 not like when I first started, like I wasn't travel 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:55.760 at every game and we were We had practice one 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.040 day and our coach was like, are you going to 0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:58.960 the game and like Corpus Christy today And it was 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.600 like Corpus Chris, He's like a like three hour flight 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.560 and I'm like, I don't know, I've classed tomorrow. He's like, yeah, 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:06.480 just just come And I was like, well, the flight's 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.239 like right after practice, Like how I get it there? 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.520 He's like, We'll just hold the plane until you get there, 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.080 Like this is ridiculous. Jet, Yeah, the hold the jet 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.240 until yeah. So I'm like, for me, who like didn't 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.080 play basketball until like like organized basketball until like two 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.719 months ago, holding the plane for me or whatever, like 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.439 just ridiculous. So some of those experiences like you just 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.000 never would expect. And then the facilities and stuff. To 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:27.679 your point, like there's so much money in these Like 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:29.800 you've got like all this TV money that rolls in 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:33.879 for college sports and like billions and billions billions of dollars, right, 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:37.080 so like in college football, in college basketball, or like 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.760 the two sports that actually like are profitable for especially 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.840 the TV right, steal for football kind of pays forever 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.080 the sport, right, So, like the locker rooms and all that 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.879 stuff are just absolutely ridiculous and like you kind of 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.320 come over and oh, when you're intercruited a couple years later, 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.760 it's like, check out these facilities. We're walking through these 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:52.320 different clubs. 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:57.200 I'm like, this is an IFL, by the way, Yeah, 0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.920 you get recruited all and I'm like, oh man, my 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:00.440 high school facilities is pretty similar to that. 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.639 Yeah, it was pretty level, but we tell them that 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:05.119 they'll take offense to it. But no, no, no, well 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:06.760 there's you know, there's some really cool stuff here. Like 0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.320 I mean, Colling was socility having like the Olympic swimming facilities. 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.080 Like yeah, it's super sweet, right, so it's a bit 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.240 of history there and then you got the modern part 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.080 of it. But like, yeah, compared to like. 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:16.879 The college we had, Like I remember one thing I 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:18.480 blew my mind was like we had a pool table 0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.240 and the pool balls had like we're customized balls and 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.720 had like logos and everything else, and like we had 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.040 the cowskin like couch and everything else, you know, and 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.480 the twenty TVs and the saunas and the hot pools 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.800 and cold pools, and I think the shower heads were 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.600 like five hundred bucks each and you know, there's a 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.800 half a million dollar meal, like marble staircase going downstairs, 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:38.640 and I'm like, you know, you have this whole gym 0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.280 that's a little underneath the actual like the court you 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.080 play on, and there's a track around that. It was 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.359 just like next level kind of stuff. And then I 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.440 came here and I was like, oh, this is good, 0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.600 doing me wrong, but like some things need to be 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:54.040 probably updated. Remember there's billions of dollars pumped into something 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.199 like I think what was it Boom Pickens, who's like 0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.640 the big donator. He's donated over like a billion dollars 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.520 to the school. It's like one person right count that 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:02.800 he's got his name on the side of the stadium, 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.639 so to one school, to one school, and. 0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.320 There's that stuffs happening all over the country. So yeah, 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.399 it's pretty wild. I mean, it's just yeah, it's different, 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:11.399 and like it's a bigger market, right, Like there's you know, 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:13.199 three hundred and fifty million people in the States and 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.080 there's a lot of them those went to college and 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:16.359 you know, if they want to be able to brag 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.680 on Monday that their football team exactly got. 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.880 Up, right, So now what is so like we're talking 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:26.880 about to like basketball, college everything else. I'm a bit 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:28.560 nervous on this because a lot of people don't know 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.720 about my college life. I've dabbled into it here and there. 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.840 Don't get me wrong, I've said a few things. Now 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.520 you would know some stuff, though I probably don't want 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:40.760 out there, and I'm happy to be this open conversation. 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:45.840 Right, So, freshman year, pretty tame, pretty tame, pretty in 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.680 the dorms, in the dorms, keeping of the dorms. Legally, 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.680 you can like get kicked out of the school. Yeah, yeah, right, 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.440 so like, well you know what I mean, Like if 0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:56.480 you get caught doing that, like if you get caught 0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.280 off campus without call, right, it's like not as big 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.159 of a deal on campus. Is like you don't to 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.920 put the actual college career in jeopardy because you want 0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.160 to be able to have a lot more uh bene 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.480 filled evings later on in life. Right now, we got 0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:10.440 from the first year's pretty time. Second year. I live 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.240 in a place called the Hester House. The Hester House. Now, 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:14.679 this is disgusting. 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:18.199 I'm trying to find the best way to put this. 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.440 I should have been condemned about twenty years before. 0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.120 Yeah, Rent was one hundred and seventy five dollars a month, 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:27.200 a month, a month. You get what you pay for, Yeah, 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:28.840 you get what you paid for. That was that was 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.600 the stars a hole on the floor that you guys 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.800 stole a traffic cone whatever, so that whenever you had parties, 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:40.760 people wouldn't fall into the hole. Like absolute liability and uh, 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.640 we're coming on. Yeah, the upstairs is basically just collapsing 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.679 into the downstairs. Somebody had cut a hole in the 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.840 staircase where the stair like when the wall came down, 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.040 so they could fit their mattress and shove it off 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:55.560 the staircase, which like just can't be legal. Then then 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.560 like duct taped a beer can on a ninety degree 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.720 angle to cover up the the hole that was just 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.080 cut with a solid the whole like the whole thing, 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:09.400 And funny enough, actually was condemned like a year. Yeah, exactly, 0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.280 really nice part of Harker Kuboks. I'm not goodness. That 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.040 place is an absolute dum and I lived in some 0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.520 pretty bad places too, but like that place took the cake. 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.040 It was disgusting, and the people who lived there were 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.240 evenly discutting you being one of them. So yeah, this guy, 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.240 I mean, like the type of person who would just 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.080 break into his own home through the window because he'd 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.560 forget his keys going out and you know, yeah rock 0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.720 up to like you know, Bible study tailgates with the 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.720 handle of makers and just taking full full triple gulps 0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:38.719 before stumbling his way back over to the game. This 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:40.040 is like eleven am. So I don't know if you 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:44.960 guys have he doesn't really have tail. You gotta have tailgates, 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:46.719 like you know the big parks up by the g 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.440 Like if you guys just had that thing full of 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.120 full of you big girls at the back, like that's 0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:52.760 that's what you guys need to get there because that's 0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.840 the best part of the whole whole weekend. Yeah wrong, 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.880 but yeah, they tail get his money. So like that's 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:00.480 where we just kind of get together, kind of bounced 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.360 around to the different tailgates, and like it was cool 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.960 too in the States, like in college all the tailgates 0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:06.800 when you're like in an away games, like if you 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.280 drive from like Oklahoma to Iowa, for like the people 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:14.080 Iowa are just like guys came from Oklahoma, like jump 0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:15.600 on in, like thanks so much for coming. At least 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.600 like the good schools. That's the way they do it. So, yeah, 0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:18.920 it's it's a whole nother but you guys got to 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:19.840 get on the tail getting here. 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.680 I know, it's something I pushed for a long time. 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:22.920 I think they tried it for a bit, but they 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.960 just don't really understand how to do it. Yeah, And 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:27.520 the thing is till getting like because you get like 0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:28.480 the satellite and you can see like. 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.720 Gas generator, the satellite up. You'd be watching all the 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.760 like five different TVs in the back of the back 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.560 of the van or whatever. Not the back of the van, right, 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.360 like we're in the back of the van, but to 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.480 the back of the back of theeabout Yeah, you'd have 0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:44.760 the truck. It's literally the tailgate, right, chuck tailgate open. Yeah, 0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:45.800 love a Barbie. You know. 0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.640 I haven't jumped into it, but yeah, it's some crazy 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.280 stuff now. I think because we went to a school 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.320 where it was a very small town, still Water, Oklahoma. 0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.160 Shout out to the old Oklahoma State Cowboys. 0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:58.880 That's right, I guess we were cowboys. We were. 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.800 We're not really help on this whole thing. We went 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.400 to kind of somewhat of a small school. So now 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.400 there are bigger schools in the middle of the town. 0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.440 But where we lived was very much a remote community 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.200 and since there was no city around, it really is 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.760 an hour and a half away. It was the school. 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.760 The school ran the town, and I think anyone would 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:16.120 agree with that. The school was run by a whole 0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:17.880 bunch of eighteen to twenty three year olds, and like, 0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:19.760 can you imagine how chaotic and crazy that is. 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:22.600 In half in the summer because all the kids went 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.040 home from school. So yeah, say thousand person town, which 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:27.520 is not very big thing to begin with, and then 0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:28.320 twenty thousand leave. 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.600 So now describe it because if you are an athlete 0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.760 in that town, right, so you we both played basketball. 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.560 Now the benefits of being an athlete in a small town. 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.160 Never stay on the line, Never stay on the line, never. 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.320 Had a tell drinks. This is a great thing over, 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.640 that's right. It's very similar to your left in Melbourne. 0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.720 You cut every line, You cut every line. You don't 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.880 pay for anything. You just flick a text to somebody 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.920 and sure enough tickets show up on your front doorstep 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.880 or you get you know whatever. It is like coming 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.720 here with you is like being in college and away, 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.040 like it's kind of kind of rock out to wherever 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.000 you want. Professional college. Yeah, exactly. 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:10.480 It still super humble, which is great every once in 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.360 a while, bring you back down to earth. Yeah, it's 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.640 good Now, College obviously, we'll move on from that. There's 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.320 a there's a lot of college stuff we could probably 0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.920 go into, but I probably won't be employed by the 0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.960 time we get this out. That's good point now before 0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.200 we get into the IFL SOB because you've got a 0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.320 big kind of massive you're my agent beforehead agents here 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:27.760 you started. 0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.120 We're still waiting for your paycheck, waiting on that. Yeah. 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.480 But another passion we both have is travel. That's right. 0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.840 Now, we've traveled all over We've been some pretty amazing places. 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.720 We've been, you know, to Europe, you've done some time 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.920 over there. You've been to Shirly obviously. You know you've 0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.480 been to Japan everywhere else. Now, can you tell me 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:48.640 the story about Patagonia and donas I don't know if 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:49.680 I mean beautiful. 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.440 Playing that but probably probably not, probably not, but yeah, no, 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.600 Patagony is incredible. Like we so we did this like 0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.200 six day high through the w torus al Pain right 0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.560 southern southern tip of Chile, which is like about as 0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.560 far as you can get before you get to Antarctica. 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:03.800 Like then these have charter boats that good Antarctica during 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:05.760 the summer. But yeah, we're down in Chile and like 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:07.800 I remember, this is like the first year you were playing, right, 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.120 So like we're playing the VFL, which is, you know, 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.200 not exactly the most glamorous of lifestyles, right, Like you're 0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:14.960 not going to a ton of press covers at that stage. 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.440 But yeah, we're like at this hostel talking to these 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.080 guys about you know, just about life and travels and 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.040 all that stuff. And they're trying of traveling through South America. 0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:23.720 And about an hour into the conversation, they're like, what 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.280 do you guys live, you know, where you guys grow up? 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.200 And I'm like, oh, I live in live in Austin, Texas. 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.800 And Mason goes, I live in Melbourne and they're like, 0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:32.800 we know who you are. We didn't want to be 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:34.760 weird about it, and we know who you are. Like 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:36.600 so cool. I hope you guys make it or whatever. 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:38.760 These guys are like from Perth somewhere, and I don't 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.480 even know what Perth is at this point, but yeah, 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.520 it's so ridiculous. So like that's kind of like probably 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.640 when I I was on the recruiting trip when you 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.440 kind of came over here first, but like that was 0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:47.920 like one of the first times I was like, man, 0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:49.800 these people really do like a nuts for the love 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.920 is ridiculous. Yeah. So yeah, they're like, you know, they 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.720 know the VFL guys that are like traveling halfway across 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.360 the world. But yeah, punterin, it's like we've had some 0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.960 good travels. Yeah. South America is really really solid, like 0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.680 all over yeah, all over Asia and Australia, anything else. 0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.200 So favorite place in Australia, the place in Australia that 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:11.280 I've been. Tell you what, Tazzi is good. North Melbourne's good. 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.280 You guys trash Now, you guys be nice to Tazzy 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:14.920 on this podcast. 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:19.920 You need to. I'm just need to get them ANFL 0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:23.960 club And I think North Melbourne's best. Uh, Fraser Fraser 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.640 Island's really good. Yeah, like squak but yeah, I've been 0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.800 to Sydney, Adelaide, Melbourn obviously, great ocean road love, great, 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.920 huge goodness. Yeah, twelve Apostles is cool. I've been all 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.200 that way down to Warnable, Warnable, shout out the hotel, Yeah, 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.920 pick hotel, down to Warnable. Yeah, big fans of the hotel's, right, 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.400 So yeah, no, I've kind of been all over, but yeah, 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.520 I think I don't know. So, like, you know, the 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.000 big cities here, especially like the Melbourne's of the Sydney 0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:47.720 is like they're very kind of similar to America, Like 0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.320 you know, it's not like a very big culture shot 0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.000 coming here. Everyone speaking in English. You get like really 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.440 good food, good uh you know, like buol pubs and 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.280 stuff like that. But man, like my favorite travels and 0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:57.520 you're just kind of out in the middle of nowhere, 0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.120 and when you get out, you get out some of 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.120 these hikes and stuff like wine Glass Bay and has 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:03.000 like out in Fraser when you're just driving the beach 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.160 for hours not seeing a soul. It's like where else 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.080 can you do this? Like you can't do this anywhere 0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:08.920 in America, like hardly anywhere else in the world. So 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:10.520 that's the type of stuff that I'm like, this is 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.879 like a truly a unique experience, you know, Like you're 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.400 in Melbourne, like you know, it's a unique experience, Like 0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.120 things are a bit different, but it's still a really 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:18.839 big city, right, So like, yeah, you get out there 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:22.080 and some of these hikes and stuff, it's yeah, new 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.879 Zealand the New Trip. Yeah, yeah, so not unreal. Yeah yeah, 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.279 and I've been it sounds maybe like yeah, the best 0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.080 place I've ever been. Huge in the world. We had 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.920 these dolphins like rolling past our, like riding with our 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.439 boat the entire way. This lady was like, this happens 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:38.800 maybe once or like two or three months, and you 0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.640 guys just got the one lucky boat, right, So like yeah, 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.800 so we're just like looking items like you're in like 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.919 like Avatar or something where it's like, all cgi, there's 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.560 no way this is real. But I'm here like now. Yeah, 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.560 so that place is nuts. Yeah, but she said every 0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.480 two or three months, Uh yeah, every well maybe like 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.520 every month or two. Yeah, definitely not very often. Head 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.760 to write too. Whenever I was there, there was a dolphins. 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.520 Was really sell you sold it? She said, no chance, 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.040 we'll come back to this. There was a dolphin. There 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:06.520 was only one though, if you had a pot of 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:07.960 dolphins maybe it was a different experience. 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.040 Yeah, we only had one. Apparently it was kicked out 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:10.520 of the pod. 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.800 So it was like it was like, oh, this is 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.080 so beautiful. I talk to the guys like I was like, 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:24.120 oh gosh, oh no, so beautiful. Tell I heard the story, 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.200 Well we'll get into a FL. Now you've been into 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:29.920 this whole Like a f L was very and we 0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.400 didn't know what the hell it was. We had no 0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.040 idea what we're getting ourselves into. And I want to 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:38.720 dive into like the first experience of maybe whenever I 0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:40.160 had called you and I said, oh, I'm going to 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:43.040 go to this thing in Los Angeles for this AFL 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:47.480 combine and you were like, what the is that? What 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.000 was your what was your mindset on that? Because I 0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:50.759 tell people all the time it was a whole thing. 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:52.759 It's like and we'll get back to this as a 0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.759 degree doesn't expire, but opportunities like this always never come, 0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:56.560 never come again. 0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:58.880 And what was your thought process? 0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:00.879 I guess as an older brother given advoss to someone 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:02.840 else who has no idea what the hell it is 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.440 and he's just going out to a combine in LA 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:05.520 for no reason whatsoever. 0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.520 Yeah, the combat thing, I'm like, well, free trip to LA. 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.360 I take it, right. But like as far as like 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.160 what could have actually become of this with a sport 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.440 I've never heard of? Like my first thought is you know, 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.480 probably like the like parental instincts kicking in I'm like 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:18.440 I had a couple of guys I played basketball in 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.760 college that ended up in like Lithuania and some shady 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.160 basketball league that like, yeah, I couldn't afford it some 0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.200 play ticket home whenever the league folded or whatever, Like 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:26.880 we better make sure it's not that. So like I 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.000 go into like full on like Jerry McGuire mode. Right, 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.360 I'm like I've got one client and I got to 0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:35.200 make sure he makes that that's right, So I jump in. 0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:37.239 I'm like all right, So I'm you know, like I 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:38.520 was joke about, like I was your first aid, but 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:40.000 like I was doing like a lot of legit research. 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:41.680 I'm like, all right, are there like salary caps, like 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.160 do you have to get drafted? Can you pick what 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.040 club you go to? Like what are the like as 0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:46.640 you know, if there's a salary cap, like what is 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:49.120 the average salary? Like what is the average career span? 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.120 Like you know, what endorsement type of deals are there? 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:53.399 So like I actually like kind of did a fair 0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:54.799 amount of research to make sure that you were going 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:56.520 to be stuck in a foreign country with the plane 0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.040 right now, and so by the time like we actually 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.239 got the trip material realized, Like yeah, I was like 0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:02.640 pretty confident. I'm like, all right, I think that this 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.080 is pretty legit, but you know, you never know until 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:06.280 you see it, That's right exactly. 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.279 And we had never seen this thing before until we 0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:09.480 actually had visual proof of it. 0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.600 I was like, yeah, I think that's what the ANFL 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.400 was thinking too, right, So like the AFL, you know. 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.000 So I'm like all right again, full dammy. I'm like 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.600 I'm going to start taking some phone calls. I'm like 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:19.480 talking to agents. I'm talking to different clubs at like 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.320 three am in the morning, isn't it. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.080 So I'll actually no because like eight am Melbourne time 0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:25.880 would be like five ish back home. So like I 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:27.279 get off clear, I get off work and I set 0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:28.839 all the meetings for like the morning in Melbourne, right, 0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:30.719 So like I jump off work and go straight into 0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.440 the zoom calls or whatever. And I'm like all right, So, 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.120 like we got to figure out a real agent who 0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.520 like knows tet run contracts and everything like that. In America. 0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.319 I haven't passed the bar yet in America or in 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.680 Australia nor whatever. But so I'm like, you know, so 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.000 I have conversations with these agents with the league offices 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:49.840 some of the different clubs and stuff like that, and 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.239 I'm like, man, I just I don't know, like what. 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:54.920 Was your impression of the IFL Was it like this 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.680 is legit like they speak while I'm talking to like 0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.160 know what they're talking about, or like, were you kind 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:02.239 of like Makeson described this this little combine thing he 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.040 had and it was a bit not what he expected. 0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.480 Yeah, well you know the combine thing. I know that. 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.200 I think you've told the story before. There's like old 0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.640 ladies walking the track around the field. Yeah, this is 0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:14.640 so like this is the field running like awesome, this 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.400 is a good start. But yeah, so you were kind 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:17.840 of you kind of like I don't know if you 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.560 really wrote it off, but you're like whatever, I have finals, 0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.520 Like finals are kind of the big exams that you 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.360 have to pass to be able to graduate, and you 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:24.920 had the coming up in like a week or two, 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:26.719 and they do a thing called dead week where like 0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.120 you just nobody goes out. It's just all study, all study, 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.640 like cramming for these finals basically the week before, and 0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:33.320 so you were going into the dead week. You're like, 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.040 I don't have time to deal with this stuff. Can 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:36.560 you please get on the phone with these people and 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.600 just see if this thing is real. So I'm like, yeah, 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.160 I got you. So that's whenever I start the whole 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.040 you know, back and forth with all the different agents 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:44.880 and the clubs and the and the league and whatnot. 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.480 And then like you kind of gave me. You know, 0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:48.600 We're talking like kind of throughout the week, and by 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.520 the end of By the end of the week, I'm like, 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.200 it seems pretty legit. I don't know, like there's a 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.240 coward caps Like it's guaranteed, right, So like the sports 0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.680 that was a big thing. Yeah, because like in the US, 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.279 like if you're in the NFL, like Fell, contracts are guaranteed, right, 0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.719 So like if you get like drafted at the very 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.879 end of the draft, tear an ACL guess what, don't 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:08.680 get paid, Like you just signed a three year yeah, 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.080 three year contract for two million a year, but like 0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:12.719 you're seeing literally none of that. So like they just 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:14.600 they cut you and move on. So I'm making sure 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.080 that it wasn't anything like that too, So like because 0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:20.239 obviously pretty brutal sport like, so I find out enough 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.640 to think that, all right, this seems pretty legit. So 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.440 we start talking again and You're like, so what's the deal, 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:27.360 Like what do they want to do because all the 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:28.680 different clubs are like we want to fly them out, 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.239 we want to fly them out, and the League's like, 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.239 pump the brakes. We can't have him spend like two 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:33.960 months over here with all these different clubs. Like we 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.520 got to hold around, Yeah, we got to get this thing. 0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.239 So the league is like, listen, we want to fly 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.440 them out. And I'm talking and they're like, we just 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:42.640 we want to get them to three or four different clubs, 0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:44.120 so like we can have him check out a bunch 0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.080 of different facilities, meet a bunch of different people, and 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.000 then kind of like just pick the one that seems 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:49.920 like the best fit. And I'm like all right, So 0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:51.480 I call you and You're like, you know, I still 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:53.400 don't know much about this, saying like you're the only 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.200 one that's really talk to these people. And so I 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:57.359 call him back and I could listen, he doesn't really 0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.320 want to go alone. I said, we'll fly got to 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:05.919 I said, we're in so so you know then that's 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.319 that's part of the whole thing. Kind of kicked off 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.120 the whole thing. So like they put together this trip 0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:13.000 and you know, we visit North Richmond, Collingwood, uh, and 0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.520 in Port, and so we went to a couple different games, 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.440 like went visited all different facilities and stuff like that. 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.400 So yeah, it was a pretty like wild time, like 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.480 and I was like kind of full wheeling a deal 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.560 and like, you know, it was you know, I thought 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:26.800 I was I thought I was killing I'm sure like 0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:31.600 all the people and had nothing really like literally talking 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.879 to like you know we had And at the time 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:35.440 it was kind of funny too, because like you go 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.520 to lunch at these people, you go to like, uh, 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.520 you know, dinner with these like legends of the game, 0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:43.000 and we're like, never heard of any of these people. Yeah, Eddie, 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:48.520 Eddie macguar, cool, Yeah, what do you do? So that 0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:50.600 happened over and over, right, Like I think like one 0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.400 of the funniest things I remember from that trip was 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.440 We're at Richmond and I guess, like, so Damian Hardwork 0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.600 picks us up from the hotel, right and uh and 0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:59.799 super nice right, so like all in like every club 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:01.600 and that's why I don't like you dump it on 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.239 North of the Sink. They were very comminating whatever, yeah, 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:08.919 saying it's an opportunity and Tezzy yeah, it's fair enough, 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:13.480 pack pack your jackets. But so we're Richard, like you know, 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.359 David Hardbrok picks us up. We've rolled into the car 0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:18.319 park and Jackie Waltz running into the club and he's like, 0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:19.799 I got to talk to this guy today, and I'm like, 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:21.719 what's going on with him? And he's like, oh, he 0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:23.239 just said some stuff in the media like about how 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.319 this maybe the coaching staff doesn't have the right mix 0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.319 or whatever, because this is mid season and I guess 0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.719 they weren't like killing it just yet. But so we 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.520 get in there and like sure enough, you're in some 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:33.239 psych evaluation thing and I'm just like talking to the 0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.480 assistant coaches upstairs and the facilities, and you see him 0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:40.120 like running across the field to go catch the train, 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.279 and I'm like, what is he doing? All the coaches 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:43.880 you're like, oh my gosh, Like he's like all the 0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:45.400 media's in the car park of like waiting to ask 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.640 him these tough questions and he but I guess they 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.440 caught him on camera like running across, so like you 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.040 got busted anyway, like trying to avoid the media. But 0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.719 I'm like, is that really what it is? Here? Like 0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:56.200 this is that big of a deal. You make one 0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.160 comment and there's like fifteen people at your doorstep trying 0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.759 to doorstop you to talk about like was like to 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.799 you know, it's just crazy, and like that's the thing 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:04.480 that's crazy about the media here in general. Right, Like 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:06.400 every week it's you're either like kind of win the 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:09.960 premiership or your career. It's like, man, you just can't 0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:12.680 catch a break if you're like, well you specifically, but 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.040 like you know, it's not just you, it's like a 0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.040 lot of other a lot of other players of also 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:16.959 I don't know, I. 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.400 Do remember that, and you're telling the story of like 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:19.960 because they have this like it's kind of like a 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:21.560 third story up, you know, and you've got this like 0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.120 aerial view of the whole field and you just see 0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:27.359 Jack just go bang straight out the gates and it's 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:28.840 right next to the Richmond station. 0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.319 So he's playing this out. There's no like no doubt. 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.600 He's like, I think I've got this, Yeah, I think 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.359 I could possibly get away. Yeah I'll get back in. 0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.480 And apparently the next day at the club you have 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:40.839 to come in and get asked again. I don't know, 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:42.839 but you just leave your car there and just pick 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.040 it up another time. It seems like things turned around 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:51.440 for them later, well three of the last four. Yeah, yeah, anyway, 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.000 that was one of the funnier stories I remember for 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:54.719 that trip. They've asked you to play in there, like 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:56.200 local I did play basketball. 0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.560 All the coaches were like, yeah, we got a break basketball, 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:00.279 like you played basketball growing up. Come on, I was like, 0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:01.040 whoever's got shoes? 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:02.880 I went just like throwing all ups at the in 0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:06.799 sac just absolutely dominating. You know, your boy had halfs 0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.239 thet pack of the day. Oh man, all right, Well 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.719 we'll go into a bit of I guess going into this, 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:14.600 this whole experience, right, So we so we met up 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.120 with four teams, five teams really if you count Freemantle. 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.399 We did have a little meeting with them. 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.560 Now we get to the back end of this, right, 0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.680 and I'll never forget like we were in the Crown 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.399 I think it was and big kind of like wrap 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:28.280 up of the whole experience. 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.239 Well we'll go back, I guess for the first AFL game. 0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.640 We're a geelong. Yeah, I told I told the story 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:36.720 about the meat pie. That's right, Chuck, Mine about. 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:41.879 Ten piece of ship? Can you tell that story? Because 0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:43.479 I feel like I've told it maybe once or twice, 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:44.680 but we got to hear from your So the. 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.160 Meat pie is like the hot Dog Show whatever, right, 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.520 So yeah, so hot dog in a baseball game in 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.040 America is kind of the same same, right. So we 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:53.600 get to the game and I've never been to a 0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:54.880 footy game. We don't know what a meat pire is. 0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.560 We don't know. We didn't know what's six points? No clue, right, yeah? 0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.280 Oh yeah. The first BFL game you played, I remember 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.719 like somebody kicked a point. My mom's like, let's go calling. 0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.840 We don't like points. Yeah she did, stood up in 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.680 the crowd. He's like, yeah, go team, go team. And 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.279 I was like, it's not a good thing. There's a 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.560 point on the board. I guess it could be worse. Yeah, 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.160 not the best. It's not good. But no, we go. Yes, 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.360 we go this game, and you know, everyone's like again 0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.840 like over welcoming. So the North, the North coaches or 0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:24.759 the you know whoever it was, they're like, let's gotta 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:26.960 get you meat pie. It's like the quinnescent Australia experience. 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:30.000 So we're getting this like half cooked, like half cold 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.440 meat pie downage along. It's like pretty cool that yeah. Absolutely. 0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.239 I took one bite and I was like, Mason, and 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:38.440 You're like, there're no way, no way, this is happening. 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.320 So I go all right, so I suck it back in. 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.120 The little pouch thing comes in right, and like the 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.200 next thing that they turn around, I like just chuck 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.520 it down down to the and they they turned indo 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:49.040 like I'd done it too quick, so they're like, oh 0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:50.719 my gosh, finished already. You want to if you want 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:54.560 another one? And I'm like that in that full four 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.840 Mason sit there with like sliding on this thing and 0:44:57.840 --> 0:44:58.839 everyone's like what are you thinking. 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.840 You're like pretty good, thank you, so thank you, Please 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:02.680 give me a contract. 0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:06.359 Yeah yeah exactly exactly. But then like the songs start 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:11.640 coming and I'm like, you know, we got the wee gelong, Like. 0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:13.000 This is not real. 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:14.560 They're not really getting to hide to this song. Like 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.239 nobody's getting hip to this song. This is ridiculous. So 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:19.320 that was like the funniest. But that was like the 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:20.560 first time we went to and it was like kind 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.680 of the cool little bootss hating down the down the coast. 0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:24.920 And then we went to the Port Hawthorne game, I 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.279 think like Adelaide Oval, which is also like those teams 0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:28.239 were flying at the time. 0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:32.880 Yeah, decked out all year making sure and like that 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:34.480 was all I had. And remember we went out that 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.560 not I went out like here out of the town 0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.040 and they're like, oh, you're the guy on the TV. 0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:41.440 So yeah, that was crazy. But I remember like even 0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.040 when we got to Adelaide, there was like cameras at 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.640 the airport Mason Coxes in town and I'm like, this 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:47.520 guy's like not even decided if he's going to come play. 0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:49.760 Well yeah, and they're like, don't worry, it's a sleepy 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:51.520 town Adelaide. I'm like, you guys can't talk at all. 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:55.000 Nobody's got more cameras than anywhere I've ever seen. Its ridiculous. 0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.080 So we actually on that plane it was like a 0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:59.600 seven NAM fly to Adelaide, and I was so exhaustive, 0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:02.560 like the jet lag and everything else is going on. 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.600 I remember falling asleep and everyone's probably done this, like 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.640 fall asleep, put their head on like the seat in 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:07.080 front of them. 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:08.640 Yeah, and then I woke up. 0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.600 And then like that night, we see I got to 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.600 see myself on camera like watching the news or something, 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:16.799 and I've got this big crease of like the you 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:18.920 know the table like that keeps it up. It's just 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.000 like this big crease across my forehead of that. And 0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.120 I was just like, oh, great, this is a great, 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.440 great first look for Attle. I sure they'll be real 0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:28.600 interested whatever. And then they were the ones that did 0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:32.359 great contract. I remember you've been in that like psych 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.440 evaluation thing too, and you're like why do you want 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.359 to do this? Like what is what's your motivation? I'd 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:38.239 be like, well, I just yeah, I love it. It 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.120 just loves sport or whatever. Can Agley goes. 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:41.960 You don't love it. You don't even know it existed 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:42.799 until three weeks ago. 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:44.640 And I was like, I'll take your fair enough. Yeah 0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.960 on that side, fair call. Well. 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:51.520 The one was that they were like, well, like how 0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:52.920 are you going to possibly make it and not living 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:54.160 at home or you're like I haven't lived at home 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.800 for five years. Yeah, it's different to the university, like 0:46:57.840 --> 0:46:59.759 you're not going back every weekend to you know, you 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.840 see your parents like once every six months, kind of 0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:03.880 the same as what you would hear, so it's different. 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.120 But yeah, that was man, that was a fun trip. 0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.839 But like it's like literally they went to Geelong game 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:10.759 the night before you didn't get back to my wents 0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:12.839 like three o'clock. And then we're on a seven o'clock flight, 0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:14.640 which we would be up at like four thirty five, 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.120 and we're just being like two hours got to Adelaide. 0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:19.719 Then they're like straight into the boots, go train against them. 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.759 I followed that out. I forget his name now, but 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:25.200 he he had play. He was playing basketball. We're looking 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.520 at him and he was just like bank one on one, 0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:29.480 go at it, kick a ball off and just whoever 0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:30.799 comes up with it. And I was like, I'd barely 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.960 even seen a football at this point. They're just like 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.120 essentially I think they're trying to They always I remember 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:37.520 I first came here, I said, how much. 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.839 Cun t do you? Haven't you? Yeah? And always like 0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:41.840 how much is he having? Is he really like, you know, 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:43.200 does he really want to do this? You know? 0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:44.600 Not kind of get it because it's like this guy 0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.600 trying to have a worldwide like we're investing him, like, yeah, 0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:48.279 best believe me to make sure that he's gonna put 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:49.000 enough effort into it. 0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.200 They playing Monopoly when you're eight years old, they would 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.640 know that you're You're a board flipper. You're the type 0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:54.960 of guy that gets down board. 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.120 Flippers stole a few five hundred out of the board, 0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:57.839 as we all do. 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.399 Yeah, why'd you end up with? Park Place? Was about 0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:04.200 six hours ago? I just bought it. I don't know, Yeah, 0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:05.800 well it was. It was a crazy trip and I 0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:06.560 think we got to the end. 0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:09.680 I'll talk about this so like this instance where the 0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.479 Crown and I remember like this whole time, like they're 0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.080 not only kind of wining, dining red carpet myself, but 0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.279 because they knew you were the person in my ear of, 0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.040 like you got all the benefits and all the different 0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.719 stuff you could possibly it's actually even better, even better. 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.359 And you're still living that life. That's not bad. Yeah, 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.080 I keep saying, everyone's like, he comes to us, show 0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:27.239 you a lot, and I'm like, well, you know, tell 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:28.879 Mason gets a legit girlfriend and gets married. 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:30.799 Like I'm gonna keep living that fust one life as 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.239 long as I can't. If anyone's listened to the pod, 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.160 that's not happening anytime soon. So dating life not so well. 0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:41.240 You could talk about some actually some interesting dating stories. 0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:42.399 I'm sure you've you've heard in. 0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.359 The past, But we go back to that last day. 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:45.520 So like you're getting wine to dine. 0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.080 Everything's happening right, And we get to this kind of 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.920 pointy end of this trip and it kind of comes 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.959 to the point where like they told us, Okay, every 0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.239 contract's gonna be the same yep, and like financially is 0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:56.760 going to be the same. There's it might be benefits 0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.840 in the sense of like Collingwood might have more followers, 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:00.920 which might help you know, build brand outside wherever it 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:02.680 may be, or you might have a better opportunity of 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.640 getting a job someone else because they've got more connections, 0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:05.319 whatever it may be. 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.000 And I remember we get to this dinner and I 0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:08.759 remember where it was. 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:10.200 It wasn't like a Nobu, but it was like a 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.520 very fancy dinner and like there was beers are flowing. 0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:16.840 It was like, hey, thanks so much for coming, great job, awesome, 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:18.080 thanks for having us. 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.480 For me more please, Yeah, I haven't strapped up a 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.000 pair of boots the whole time, and I'm just yeah 0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:25.719 for two weeks. 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:28.880 And we got through this dinner and then we go 0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:30.880 for more drinks and there's like I'll never forget this 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:32.640 little place and it's like right next to the entrance 0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.239 and there's a little mini bar and everyone's hanging out 0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:37.440 having drinks and stuff, and yeah, they kind of get 0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:39.319 weeded out and stuff and whatnot. And then we get 0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:41.960 to the point end we're given two agents that kind 0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:43.439 of were giving us an idea of what it would 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:46.279 look like the contract now because we're ignorant, Like you 0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:47.960 did a business degree, but like, did you have any 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:49.399 experience as a sport agent. 0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:52.520 No. I remember going up to this. 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:56.799 I think it was like a sports bar upstairs, and like, 0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.000 I'm not gonna lie, I was pretty pissed, Like I 0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:00.840 was quite drunk at this point, Like we had a 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.239 few beers in us and I remember sitting there. I'll 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.000 never forget this moment. Is like they sit there and 0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:07.880 there's the first time we had talked about financials this 0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:10.560 whole trip, right, and they give like all the contracts 0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.480 of the different clubs are given to me, and then 0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:14.160 like we both looked at each other and we're looking 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:15.799 at these and I'm like, I can't even read the letter. 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.320 Finally talk numbers and we're like ten years. 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:21.920 To just hammered, which I'm like, I remember sitting there 0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:24.200 and they like start chatting there for like five ten minutes, 0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:25.440 and I just kind of look at you. I was like, 0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:27.720 you're like, can we getting five minutes? 0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:29.360 Now we get ten minutes. Just we're gonna have a 0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:29.880 chat about this. 0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:31.440 I remember like going off to the side and I 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.440 was like, yeah, I'm hammered, Like what are you okay? 0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:35.680 I was like, do you know what's going on here? 0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:39.480 No, it's like should we be making life decisions under 0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:43.080 this circumstances? Like no, no, no, no, no, So go back. 0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.399 We're like, thanks so much, guys, can you just give 0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:46.840 us a little bit of time. We'll think, we'll go 0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:48.920 back home, we'll talk to the family and we'll have 0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:50.440 a conversation with them and see if we want to 0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:52.360 come out here. But the AFL had already invested this, 0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:54.040 because they had already gone through and told the media 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.000 that I was coming. They kind of pushed this whole 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.040 thing of like tallest player to ever play American coming 0:50:58.080 --> 0:50:59.239 out here. You know it's going to be this great 0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:00.920 you know, you know, great thing for the game and 0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.000 all this, and like they put a lot of investment 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.040 into it. And like you said, I had not said 0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:06.719 I was coming, Like I got a job at Excellent Mobile, 0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:08.239 Like I was a nine hundred percent invested in this 0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:09.719 since I knew I was gonna come yet. 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.399 Yeah, And a lot of people are like, well, isn't 0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:12.719 it like kind of a waste of a college degree? 0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:14.560 This and that. But like you were able to negotiate 0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:16.480 the contract based on what Excell had already offered, right, 0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.279 so you got paid more than what a normal rookie 0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:20.000 was and then so off the salary cap because it's 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:22.640 a rookie, like international rookie. See I did my homework, Yeah, 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.399 exactly work. So yeah, that was. That was a coop 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.520 of like to your point. I mean, it was still 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:29.080 like probably a little dice where they're like, man, this 0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:30.759 guy better come over because we've been really hyping it 0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:32.279 up in the media for the last week or so. 0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:34.600 So yeah, so but like, yeah, that was we were 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:36.160 in no state to make that decision in that stage 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:38.480 of the game, so uh, you know, kept on rolling. 0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:40.680 It was a it was a unique circumstance. 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:43.280 I remember flying back and there's a guy named Chris 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.359 who had come to the combine in the US early 0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.719 stag just came to the combine. Was like a hype man, right, 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:50.640 so he's like this fellas hyped up, you know, He's like, oh, man, 0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:52.359 like the boys you know all this kind of shit. 0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:55.319 You know, I was like, not probably the person they 0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:56.880 thought they get out of it, you know, like this 0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:01.080 like suburban like walk on what that just was like, 0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:03.080 you know, an engineer, Like I don't think that was 0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:04.759 probably the person they were thinking was gonna come out 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.080 of this. And I never forget Chris was on that 0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:11.200 flight over to I think it was from LA, like 0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:12.680 whenybody flew through LA maybe on. 0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:13.840 The way back from the US. 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.440 Yeah, and Collingwood knowing, and like Collingwood's very good at this, 0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:19.400 and Decker Derek Hans is very good at this. And 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:22.760 I loved it because I love ruthlessness. Who becomes suck recruiting. 0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.640 He schmoozed it, He lathered it up, you know, I 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:28.040 just lathered it up and whatever you need, let us 0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:30.120 know whatever it is. You know, we've got all the 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:31.680 connections in the world and all this kind of stuff, 0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.080 and they do have quite a bit. And I don't 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:36.560 forget Chris sat next to us on the plane. And 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:38.839 this is a guy that like was kind of hired 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.440 to like be in my ear, and somehow he had 0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:45.279 sorted out the I guess the airplane tickets at the 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.200 AFL had booked for us, and then just I haded 0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:48.759 to book a ticket literally right next to us. We 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:51.280 had a guy in our ear for like seventeen hours 0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:53.200 straight talking to us how great calling. 0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:54.640 Because the trip wasn't a Callingwood trip, it was a 0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:57.680 tripfl to be like meeting all the different teams, and 0:52:57.719 --> 0:52:59.120 like we had no idea this is this guy was 0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:01.399 even coming, but they not only find out they're coming, 0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:05.520 he's sitting right spang next to us, like halfway through. 0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:06.840 The flight, basical gets up together ise he's like, I 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:08.719 can't let this guy anymore. You gotta swall seats of me. 0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:11.520 So we He's a super nice guy, but man. 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:13.000 It was just like we can't listen to seventeen hours 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.080 of this, Like I gotta take a nap, so. 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:19.000 We'll go into I guess now the IFL career. So 0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.320 everything obviously panned out with all this kind of stuff, 0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:24.600 and we are ignorant, like we kind of have no idea. 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:26.319 And I've called you many of times, going, you know, 0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:27.480 do I want to keep playing? 0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.520 Do I not? Is this really worth it? What's going on? 0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:30.400 All this kind of stuff? 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.759 And you've kind of known me through the highs and 0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:35.440 lows and everything else they've gone through, and there's very 0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:37.200 few people I feel like they probably have the background 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.480 information that you do of like kind of my experiences 0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:42.560 and the lows and the highs and kind of we'll 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:44.399 talk a bit of both, I guess. But the first 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:47.080 year obviously very very hard. Moving to a country where 0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:48.919 you don't know anyone, you've never heard of the place, 0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:50.719 never heard of Melbourne in my life. Yeah, moving to 0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:52.640 a country to play sport you never heard of. And 0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:54.920 I guess my reliance was a lot on you to 0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:57.200 give me a bit of advice on you know, saying 0:53:57.640 --> 0:53:59.759 this isn't like, you know, like just stick it out. 0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:01.400 You've got a three year deal, stick it out in 0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:03.839 worst case scenario, like if things move on to life, 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:04.320 you've got. 0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:05.480 That in your back pocket. You go back to working 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:06.200 engineering job. 0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:09.320 Now, I will say this, like, and I don't know 0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:11.680 if you remember this moment we were in Saint Kilda, 0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:14.120 was after the chaos of like just the AFL trip, right, 0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:15.759 and it was like this fucking nuts And it's probably 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:18.040 one of the first like actual conversations we've had like 0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.319 man and man kind of thing. And we're sitting down 0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.400 this like just I don't even know, like this little 0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:25.359 brick bledge looking out the beach, going like what the 0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:27.240 fuck have we just got ourselves into? 0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.359 I had no idea? And we're like, well, we thought 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:32.080 this wasn't real. 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.239 Now we've come into a game, we've seen it can 0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.279 have thirty thousand people, one hundred thousand people with the 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:40.040 MCG have walked out onto the stadium and like being 0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:41.239 able to walk around and see how big of a 0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.239 deal this is. Because we didn't think it was real 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:45.759 and we're like, all right, well now we've got to 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:47.399 the back into this. We we're probably gonna get a deal. 0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:47.920 Like what do we do? 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:48.160 You know? 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:49.600 Like, and it's kind of this moment in life where 0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:52.120 everyone has these you know, it might go one way 0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:52.919 or mic go or the other. 0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:54.680 And I think like on that beach in Saint Kilda, 0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:57.640 it was like we essentially said like, nah, you're going 0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:00.359 to actually do this thing, and it was like shit, 0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:01.960 like I'm about to move my life to like this 0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:03.640 place I know nothing about and like just have this 0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:07.319 massive just risk. I'm about to take it live and 0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:08.240 I'll be internested. 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:08.400 Now. 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:10.319 I guess like you're what were you thinking whenever you're 0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.000 kind of going through this whole process of me and 0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:13.640 what I was kind of mentally all over the place 0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:15.279 and not really sure I was gonna do and had 0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.239 a job and everything else and giving it up and 0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:17.560 all that. 0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:19.960 But you had kind of already been to work. 0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:21.520 A proper career already, and like you kind of had 0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:22.880 an idea, like what was it kind of like I 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:23.920 guess giving you advice. 0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:25.560 Now that was like that was exactly it, right, So 0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:27.520 like I, you know, I played, We had like like 0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:30.480 we just talked about very very similar life experience up 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:32.200 to that point, playing college basketball, Like you don't really 0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.279 think anything's going to happen after that, and like I 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:36.719 just remember sitting on the here whatever it was at 0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:39.120 little legend say kill. Then You're like, I mean, like 0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:41.319 what do you think? Like what should we do here? 0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:43.680 And I was like, look for me, I'm proud of 0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:46.240 you either way. Like you're gonna go work for an awesome, 0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:48.600 like massive company back in the States. They're going to 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.759 have this crazy adventure. Like I've worked four or five 0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:53.840 years at that point in the corporate world, and I 0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:56.640 can tell you not that cool. It's not that cool, 0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:58.920 like sending a cubicle all day whatever. So I was like, look, 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.560 your college degree never exp your athleticism does like you 0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:03.520 will never probably have a day where you're sitting like 0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:05.399 on the field and I'll show you being like, man, 0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:06.759 I really wish I was in a cubicle right now, 0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:08.360 and that'd be awesome because you're gonna have plenty of 0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:11.560 those days probably in the future with yeah yeah, so, 0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:13.600 but I'm like, you know, if you pass this up, 0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:15.960 there's I can guarantee you there will be multiple times 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:17.719 a year where you sit there in your cubicle in 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.280 Houston thinking like, man, be cooled to be in Aushowa 0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:21.600 right now. I wonder what would have happened, you know, 0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:23.279 Like it's like, look, I'm probably either way. I do 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:24.799 whatever you want. I really don't care. Like I'm not 0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:26.160 trying to tell you to do one thing or the other. 0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:30.680 But for me, like there's one path that like will 0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:32.919 always be there and the other one pretty much leaves 0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:34.600 when we leave Australia if you decide it does so 0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:37.359 like do without what you wish and uh, And then 0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:38.759 we didn't really talk about it again. I don't think 0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:39.960 the rest of that trip, I was just gonna like 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:41.960 just leave it with you because, like I said, I'm like, 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:44.400 I'm proud of either way. So we'll get back and 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:45.759 then we kind of talked about a little bit more 0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:48.120 once we got back to the States and uh, just 0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.000 enjoy the rest of the trip. But uh yeah, I 0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.520 ended up ended up deciding to go and then obviously 0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.160 ended up a calling with you eve A worried about 0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:56.960 maybe an over on my own. Uh not really again, 0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.040 like after seeing the ass house, like if you can 0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:01.600 survive that, you can survive that. Like I think he's 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:03.880 gonna be all right. So but honestly, man, like getting 0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:05.919 over here and like the more I've come throughout the years, 0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:07.680 like it's so cool meeting all the different people you've 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:09.400 met here because like I get them to know you're 0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:10.920 a really good friend group. Then all the people you 0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:13.160 work with and like, and it's like once you once 0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:14.640 you meet and get to know the network that you've 0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:16.680 like created over here and all the people that are 0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:19.600 like essentially helping you along, it like makes you worry 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:21.040 a lot less because you're like, oh, he's got like 0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:22.720 really really good people that will make sure he's taken 0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:25.160 care of regardless. So and there's been a ton of 0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:27.160 them through the years, right, So like it's you know, 0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:28.560 once you kind of see that and like see the 0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:30.840 infrastructure that you have around you, like, yeah, you don't 0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:32.720 really worry at all. Yeah, that's good. 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:34.439 I think it is one thing I always talk about 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:36.400 Australians and the willingness to be able to help other 0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:38.640 people out and stick a handout whenever someone needs something, 0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:41.880 Like it's never their experience they expect something back. It's 0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:43.360 always like, how can I help this person be a 0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:47.280 better human? And like wild, it's unlock anywhere else. Yeah, 0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:49.320 it's they're kind of like there is this whole tall 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:51.200 poppy syndrome. But I think before you get to that 0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.000 status in life of being able to like say you're successful, 0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:55.080 a lot of people want to get you to the 0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:57.320 successful point. And then once you get there and then 0:57:57.360 --> 0:57:59.240 you become media and all this other stuff, then people 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:00.760 try to bring you back down to where you were. Yeah. 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.040 Like so there's never like this is like kind of 0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.800 this weird happy medium somewhat. But I have found it 0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.640 amazing the Australians are so willing to say, oh, you're 0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:10.400 from a different I couldn't tell you how many people 0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:12.800 have gone, oh you're from no, come over for dinner 0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:14.760 come dinner, come see the family, like don't worry about it. 0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.200 And it's like it's amazing, Like I just have never 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.000 experienced that kind of hospitality anywhere else. 0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:20.520 But you get to a certain level, then you got 0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.440 to start giving back. Right then you get to be 0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:25.360 the person and that that feels even better than anything, right, 0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:29.560 like being of I've got some of the younger guys 0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:31.400 and like, oh, like I'll give you this, come with me. 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.320 This that like even little things like I remember were 0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:36.200 driving back from Fraser Island and like we pulled out 0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:37.880 you see, you know this is like after Queen's birthday, 0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:39.760 you can five like one of you know whatever, you know, 0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:41.400 dy in her trophy and all that stuff, and like 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.320 so it's a big, really big week and like you 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:44.919 got the bi week next week. So go to Fraser 0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:46.840 and like just see some kids kicking the footy on 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:48.160 the side of the road and I'm like, dude, let's 0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:49.640 go have a kid. And so sure enough, like pull 0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:51.200 over on the side of some random street out and 0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.600 queens queens, Yeah, god nos where and like these kids 0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:58.200 are like what are you doing? Like a it's like 0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:00.560 and like could not tell you like absolutely made the 0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:03.600 day and like being able to like make somebody's day 0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:05.720 just by giving an odd handball at the park or whatever. 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:07.520 Like that stuff is really cool. So I it's I 0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:09.480 don't know, so sometimes as small as that, and then 0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:11.680 sometimes it's you know, like you said, like taking along 0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:13.480 some of the younger, younger folks that are on the 0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:15.640 squad or whatever and like kind of you know, helping 0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:18.000 them get into the media stuff or into you know, 0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:20.040 stuff outside of footy and making sure that people are 0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:21.400 like set up for the next phase of life, because 0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:23.160 I feel like that's something that you know, no matter 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:25.080 the sport, like across the world, a lot of people 0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:27.560 just don't probably playing for that as well as they could. 0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:30.120 Yeah, it's just not using It's not like making haywhile 0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:32.400 it's on Schine's Like everyone has a finite end to 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.360 their career. No one's going to really retire from it. 0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:36.160 You have to get a job after. And it's being 0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:37.680 able to use the connections and stuff within it to 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.440 be able to kind of, I guess somewhat leverage yourself 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:41.760 into a career after and a lot of people regret 0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:45.640 not doing that until the end. And it is interesting though, 0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:48.320 but like, yeah, it's that's My favorite part of thing 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:49.840 about playing ifl. 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:50.880 It's like, well, I kind didn't grow up with that. 0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:52.960 I don't have a team I loved growing up or 0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:55.040 this or that, you know, and it's just like it's 0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:56.600 cool to see how much it means to other people. 0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:58.400 And like we've been with the club, like we've been 0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:00.640 able to experience people that you know, not been dealt 1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:02.240 the greatest hand in life, it might be towards the 1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:04.480 back end or given terminal cancer, whoever it is, and 1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:05.920 like to be able to give them the happiness by 1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:07.240 just hanging out with them for the day and be like, yeah, 1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:08.680 come to training, like we'll show you around the place 1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:09.080 where it is. 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:09.240 You know. 1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:12.120 It's like that's cool to me because I just don't 1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:13.920 look at it as like this crazy. It is a 1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:16.080 crazy thing, but it's not like I always hope there's 1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:17.520 gonna be better things in life once I'm done, Like 1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:18.960 you always kind of have this idea of like, oh, 1:00:18.960 --> 1:00:20.480 there's always gonna be something better, you know, like I'm 1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:21.960 gonna be able to do something cooler this or that, 1:00:22.000 --> 1:00:22.280 you know. 1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:23.880 And even on that trip, like you were like, well, 1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:26.240 I don't like these kids don't care. I was like Mason, 1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:28.479 remember when you were that age, Like how cool would 1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:29.840 have been if this person would have pulled them inside 1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:31.520 of the road just had You're like, I'm like lost 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:33.120 my mind. Yeah, you would have lost your mind, like 1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:35.560 go give them that experience. You know, it's like some 1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:37.480 of that stuff. So yeah, it is like tough to 1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:39.200 sort of think back to like when you were that 1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:41.880 age and some of those things, and yeah, to be 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:43.640 able to give like some of that, that's you Like, 1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:46.360 I mean what else is sport about? Right? Yeah, seriously, 1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:47.760 it's about just kind of like giving people a bit 1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:48.040 of hope. 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:51.160 I think more than anything. We'll go to my first game. Now, 1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:53.400 the whole family came out in the exact day. This 1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:55.480 is a is a big day, big big day. 1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:57.800 Now, Well, selections on like what the Wednesday or Thursday, 1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:00.919 so like selection happens, get a text on the club. 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:03.600 Mason's in book a flight. I literally booked fly out 1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:04.800 of Houston is the only one I could find that 1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:06.440 was leaving within the next like three hours, and I 1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:09.160 had to leave like right on the day, on the day, 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:11.880 so like book a flight, get home, packet a carry on, 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:13.680 and then just drive to Houston. It was just like 1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:15.800 two and a half hours to drive away, and I'm 1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:17.560 like literally flying out. I got I mad my flight 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:20.120 by like forty five minutes, so I barely like make 1:01:20.160 --> 1:01:21.600 this light to Australia and then get in you know, 1:01:21.640 --> 1:01:23.720 the morning of the game or whatever, and man just 1:01:23.760 --> 1:01:27.160 like flat on. But yeah, crazy day. Like one of 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:28.960 my favorite parts. They do the first kick, first goal 1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:31.160 right like beuse nobody can stop gambling in this country. 1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:34.160 Big deal, big deal. So they just had these like 1:01:34.160 --> 1:01:36.000 little envelopes at the table we were at were like 1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:38.320 whatever luncheon beforehand, and they're like, yeah, you can just 1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:41.000 put in one of the player's names, like yeah, put 1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:42.240 a dollar in whatever it was, you know. And I 1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:44.680 didn't have any Australian cash of like put in stod 1:01:44.720 --> 1:01:47.520 in some usc and these ladies ext to me, they're 1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:49.280 like putting in money. I go, he goes going for 1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:51.040 and I think they're like, oh, this is steel Sidebonthom 1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:52.919 or somebody. I go, No, Mason Cox and they started 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:56.160 laughing at me. They're like, Mason the American, I got 1:01:56.240 --> 1:02:00.439 chick any goals. I was like that's my brother. Yeah, gosh, 1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:02.280 I'm so sorry. And then sure enough kicked the first 1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:03.640 time I got strip back to him, I go, what 1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:08.600 do you think, let's go? That was good? No, what 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:10.680 a fun day. It was crazy, like just a whirlwind thing. 1:02:10.680 --> 1:02:13.320 And like the day, like the Anzact day in general, 1:02:13.440 --> 1:02:15.680 is such a cool thing because like you got the trumpet, 1:02:15.680 --> 1:02:18.600 like you know, all the the pregame stuff, anything else 1:02:18.720 --> 1:02:22.080 super unique and like just like clearly more than you know, 1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:24.600 like about more than football, like like both the teams 1:02:24.640 --> 1:02:26.600 run through the banner together, right, like that doesn't happen, 1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:28.280 And there's stuff like that that I think is just 1:02:28.320 --> 1:02:31.280 like a really kind of cool tradition. That was like 1:02:31.320 --> 1:02:33.200 cool to see and that's why I first like that's 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:34.800 the first game I've seen at the MGG as well, 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:36.360 so like put a one hundred thousand people there and 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:38.560 I'm like, oh my gosh, this is this is wild. 1:02:39.040 --> 1:02:41.560 So yeah, that was that was a cool, cool day 1:02:41.560 --> 1:02:43.280 and a man on real trip. 1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:45.360 That was probably the first time I realized how chaotic 1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:48.800 media can be. And it was like after that day, 1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:50.440 I was freaking out and like I only kicked one 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:52.360 goal in the day. It wasn't like that's on ground 1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:55.200 by anything like, but people lost their f and mind. 1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:55.360 Yea. 1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:57.560 It was like crazy I remember going out to dinner 1:02:57.560 --> 1:02:59.520 and it was just like everyone was just like saying 1:02:59.520 --> 1:03:00.880 something about it and like and I was just like, 1:03:00.920 --> 1:03:03.440 this is wild, Like this is it is very much 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:05.080 this idea. And I always says, this is like big fish, 1:03:05.120 --> 1:03:07.880 small pond, like this is very much a bubble and 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:10.600 it's like everyone falls. I fhon it's the most I'd 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:13.240 say it's probably the highest followed per capita sport in 1:03:13.280 --> 1:03:13.640 the world. 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:16.040 Yeah, first city for sure. I'm like I was talking 1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:17.520 to Craig mcra about that this week, like when we're 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:19.840 in Sydney at the at the game, and like he's like, man, 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:21.480 the biggest thing that's different for me is just I 1:03:21.600 --> 1:03:23.480 was like nobody knew who I was. Like I'm walking 1:03:23.520 --> 1:03:25.600 around Victoria and like I played for Brisbane like twenty 1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:28.040 years ago, people aren't well you know, walking up asking 1:03:28.040 --> 1:03:29.800 for photos and stuff. Until the last few months has 1:03:29.840 --> 1:03:32.080 just been chaotic. So it's like different, Like that's definitely 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:34.920 like one of the biggest transitions just from last year 1:03:35.000 --> 1:03:38.160 this year. For him. He's like, you know, I knew 1:03:38.160 --> 1:03:39.680 it was a big deal obviously, but like, man, it's 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:42.080 just wild, Like you one when people they wanted all 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:42.960 the photos and stuff with. 1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:45.920 So these guys own the badge of the club. That's 1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:47.800 a big time, a little big time. What is a 1:03:47.840 --> 1:03:51.800 bad one A badge's face, you know, badge? Oh yeah yeah, 1:03:51.800 --> 1:03:53.920 the bad Yeah I got you, yeah yeah, the one 1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:57.560 that mom that's seventeen seven. Yes, like buys the whole thing. 1:03:57.600 --> 1:04:01.600 Every year, we'll go to another game, now, grand finel. 1:04:02.200 --> 1:04:04.160 You missed the prelim, which is follow the best game 1:04:04.280 --> 1:04:07.120 career so far, you know, and like unfortunately you came 1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:09.480 to Sydney, which is another prelim, and you thought maybe 1:04:09.480 --> 1:04:11.840 he's gonna happen again, and then he gets supped out 1:04:11.840 --> 1:04:14.240 a halftime, so yeah into. 1:04:14.120 --> 1:04:17.560 The spectrum, yeah halftime, as I was, my goodness. Now, 1:04:17.640 --> 1:04:19.480 but if across the road tell you what those flights 1:04:19.480 --> 1:04:22.320 of Sydney, they weren't lying, not cheap, not cheat at all. 1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:25.240 From the United States, people complaining about getting from Melbourne 1:04:25.280 --> 1:04:26.680 and Sydney. And I was like, yeah, well the whole 1:04:26.720 --> 1:04:28.640 fan's coming in from the US, so don't complaining to me. 1:04:28.880 --> 1:04:32.400 Yeah now the Grand Final and you've never been to 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:34.280 a Grand Final like now, the chaos of it and 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:36.800 everything else, like I think you were on media street 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:39.680 play more than anyone else side down you were. 1:04:40.360 --> 1:04:42.120 I think your agent was like, oh, there's something they 1:04:42.120 --> 1:04:44.800 want to like film you guys drinking Carlton beer and 1:04:44.880 --> 1:04:46.080 like eating these like mee pies. 1:04:46.120 --> 1:04:47.960 I was like, it's gonna do that in veggiemon. Yeah, 1:04:48.720 --> 1:04:50.160 that was gonna be my Saturday either way. 1:04:50.200 --> 1:04:53.000 So for Friday, I think it's a Friday, right, So like, yeah, 1:04:53.080 --> 1:04:55.360 so we land straight away, like we landed. I'm such 1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:58.400 a neat land and like there's like media at the airport, 1:04:58.680 --> 1:05:00.959 like for being all and like are the brothers getting 1:05:01.000 --> 1:05:03.520 in cameras cameras the airport and they were like, oh, 1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:05.600 Mason Cox's family gets here from America. And I'm like, 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:08.720 I love ridiculous. I love it. Sure enough. They they're like, oh, 1:05:08.720 --> 1:05:09.240 can we get a word? 1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:09.360 You know? 1:05:09.440 --> 1:05:11.040 So I talked to him for a second and then yeah, 1:05:11.040 --> 1:05:13.120 they pull off the vans leave and I'm like I 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:15.560 should ask them for a ride getting it down like 1:05:15.600 --> 1:05:18.560 such an idiot, but anyway, so idok at an uber 1:05:18.600 --> 1:05:20.160 back then, But yeah, it was just like straight through it. 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:21.880 I was like, it's kind of the same thing. You 1:05:21.880 --> 1:05:23.480 don't know you're planning until you win. The prelims to 1:05:23.560 --> 1:05:26.120 like book a flight on the flight the next day. Yeah, 1:05:26.120 --> 1:05:28.800 it's like, goodness, man, so been some cool stuff like 1:05:29.440 --> 1:05:31.200 just find half a half a world away on the 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:34.600 last the last minute, which yeah, the flights are never cheaper. 1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:37.560 One again, that's all good. Yeah, So I guess I've 1:05:37.560 --> 1:05:39.080 been to like six or seven games at this point. 1:05:39.120 --> 1:05:40.880 Once the Inxact day I went to the Queen's birthday. 1:05:40.960 --> 1:05:43.360 Queen's Birthday was arguably like one of your best games 1:05:43.360 --> 1:05:46.440 of twenty eight goals goals because most goals you've kicked, right, and. 1:05:46.960 --> 1:05:49.919 Yeah, bag a bag, say a bag, that's right. Only 1:05:50.000 --> 1:05:53.280 time kick the bag you're never getting leather poisoning, so 1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:53.760 you might as well. 1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:59.600 Yeah, so what did that one? Then I went to 1:06:00.480 --> 1:06:02.160 the game in Bristolin this year, which I would say 1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:06.920 is not your highlight, the game of the Sydney and 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:09.840 then yeah, I guess that's that's maybe it, but yeah 1:06:09.880 --> 1:06:11.520 it's cold for a guy who lives half a world away. 1:06:11.520 --> 1:06:12.920 I think that's really good. Ones and a couple of 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:15.600 ones along the way. But where it goes. 1:06:15.560 --> 1:06:18.760 Now, we'll get into this because you do play if 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:21.960 L Yeah, and I've mentioned it before. You you've won 1:06:22.040 --> 1:06:26.000 a few more premierships than I have. And there is 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:27.600 a league in the in the in the States called 1:06:27.600 --> 1:06:30.000 the U s a f L. Now, I've been an 1:06:30.000 --> 1:06:32.720 ambassador for a long time, like I've gone, I've gone 1:06:32.720 --> 1:06:34.720 to the national tournament after our season every single year 1:06:34.760 --> 1:06:37.360 pretty much, and it has become this big thing and 1:06:37.440 --> 1:06:39.919 I've fallen in love with it because it is kind 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:41.840 of cool somewhat to be somewhat of a representative of 1:06:41.880 --> 1:06:44.919 like a nation and a sport that exists in a nation. 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:48.280 And how did you so you're playing for the Austin 1:06:48.320 --> 1:06:50.680 Crows now the other brother plays for Seattle Grizzlies, and 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:53.280 shout out both of them. If you are in America 1:06:53.320 --> 1:06:55.640 listening to this, check out your local league Austin foy 1:06:55.680 --> 1:06:59.120 dot com. You go on there and yes, love that. 1:06:59.640 --> 1:07:02.360 How did you find out AFL in the US existed? 1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:04.760 So I'm thinking, like there's got to be So there's 1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:07.360 all these like you know, English Premier League pubs that 1:07:07.440 --> 1:07:09.080 like they watched the soccer games at ten in the 1:07:09.080 --> 1:07:10.600 morning or whatever, and I'm like, there's got to be 1:07:10.640 --> 1:07:12.480 something equivalent for AFL, right, Like I got to have 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:14.440 some people I can go watch the games with and like, 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:16.680 at least I get stuck into the like you know, 1:07:16.760 --> 1:07:20.360 the the culture of AFL. So like I'm kind of googling, like, 1:07:20.560 --> 1:07:23.560 you know, Austin footy bars, Austin you know, like any 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:26.680 of that stuff I come across, like Austin Crows Football, right, 1:07:26.720 --> 1:07:29.040 So I'm like to hit up these guys. They definitely, 1:07:29.120 --> 1:07:31.160 you know, it seems like they know what's going outside. 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:33.680 I email them, like the generic email, and I'm like, hey, 1:07:33.680 --> 1:07:35.080 do you guys like go watch the games at all? 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:36.760 And they're like, we'll come after kick. I'm like, no, no, no, 1:07:36.840 --> 1:07:40.800 I just want to watch two. I don't get murdered exactly. 1:07:40.960 --> 1:07:43.520 Like so yeah, they're like, no, no, no, come comfort kick, Like, well, 1:07:43.560 --> 1:07:44.960 you know, we'll tell you. And so I'm like a god. 1:07:45.000 --> 1:07:46.400 So we go to the Zilker Park, which is like 1:07:46.680 --> 1:07:49.080 where they hold Awston City Homes Music festival, big beautiful 1:07:49.080 --> 1:07:52.160 park and you know, Central Austin, same park you got 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:56.280 the phone call from from Frio with uh, might've been 1:07:56.320 --> 1:07:57.080 right next to you on that one. 1:07:57.160 --> 1:07:59.640 Probably, Yeah, if you haven't heard that store, it's on 1:07:59.680 --> 1:08:01.600 the last It's on one of the previous ones of 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:04.120 Freeman A check the TikTok and the Instagram there's a 1:08:04.120 --> 1:08:06.360 little thing out there about me getting almost traded to 1:08:06.400 --> 1:08:09.520 Freeman while I was absolutely hammered at a cl So 1:08:09.560 --> 1:08:10.960 the first couple of times I go down and I 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:13.000 was training on Tuesdays, and first couple of times, it's 1:08:13.000 --> 1:08:14.480 just pouring rain, and I'm like, I'll make a quick 1:08:14.480 --> 1:08:16.120 clop and see if they're there. And I do see 1:08:16.160 --> 1:08:18.880 him out there kicking the ball, and I'm like, it's raining, 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:22.160 I'll just keep on cruising by. 1:08:22.160 --> 1:08:24.120 So I keep going, and eventually, like it's a nice day, 1:08:24.120 --> 1:08:25.800 I'm like, I'll go out for kick, kick the ball around. 1:08:25.840 --> 1:08:27.479 I'm like, like it's a falling league. If they were 1:08:27.479 --> 1:08:29.679 in the drills, they're like running, you know, all this stuff. 1:08:29.720 --> 1:08:32.640 I'm like, all right, so we'll see and I end 1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:34.800 up like becoming friends with some of these guys, end up, 1:08:35.320 --> 1:08:36.439 you know, kind of playing. They're like, we got a 1:08:36.439 --> 1:08:38.240 game this Saturday, so I like, you know, I don't 1:08:38.240 --> 1:08:40.639 know how physical it's going to be any of that stuff. 1:08:40.720 --> 1:08:42.320 I'm like, probably pretty hung over at this point on 1:08:42.320 --> 1:08:44.280 a Saturday morning to a game and we're coming out, 1:08:44.280 --> 1:08:46.519 I'm like, oh my gosh, it's like one hundred degrees 1:08:46.520 --> 1:08:48.400 out and all of sudden go out and I'm just 1:08:48.439 --> 1:08:50.120 like getting smashed around the rock because they're like, listen 1:08:50.160 --> 1:08:51.880 to this guy that can't kick. He just like first 1:08:51.880 --> 1:08:53.240 time he ever attempted to kick a ball was like 1:08:53.320 --> 1:08:55.080 last week. Been there. But he can jump in six 1:08:55.160 --> 1:08:56.840 six and he's got yeah, he's got some hops. So 1:08:57.160 --> 1:08:58.760 I rolled out of the ruck and then like ended up, 1:08:58.800 --> 1:09:00.280 you know, just kind of getting suck in from like 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:02.200 we just kind of go grab youers whatever after training, 1:09:02.240 --> 1:09:03.920 and it's just like a really good and again, like 1:09:04.000 --> 1:09:05.720 it's kind of exactly what I had hoped for in 1:09:05.840 --> 1:09:08.040 terms of the social outlet of like having people that 1:09:08.479 --> 1:09:10.200 I can talk to about footing and watch the games 1:09:10.200 --> 1:09:12.880 with and stuff like that. But they have like a 1:09:12.880 --> 1:09:15.439 full on league get I'm like regional tournaments and they 1:09:15.479 --> 1:09:17.080 travel like once or twice a year to these big 1:09:17.160 --> 1:09:19.599 national tournaments and so like there's like a national tournament 1:09:19.600 --> 1:09:21.880 at the end of each season and like the next thing, 1:09:21.920 --> 1:09:23.920 you know, we're like playing you know this, so our 1:09:24.160 --> 1:09:26.559 our team like you know, ends up. It turns out like, 1:09:26.680 --> 1:09:28.800 for whatever reason, I live in the city with like 1:09:28.840 --> 1:09:31.559 the best like local fitting clubs in America. It's like 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:33.599 these guys are just smashing people like every single year. 1:09:33.720 --> 1:09:37.040 So I ended up INFL. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, son, 1:09:37.080 --> 1:09:39.280 My buddy Kendrick like played yeah Sandful I think for 1:09:39.439 --> 1:09:41.560 like a few years and in TfL and some of 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:43.040 that stuff. And like we've so we've got some guys 1:09:43.040 --> 1:09:45.160 that played like pretty high level, like some you know, 1:09:45.720 --> 1:09:47.599 we have a guy this year that played Port Melbourne 1:09:47.680 --> 1:09:49.519 VFL last year. So we've got some guys that like 1:09:49.840 --> 1:09:52.559 actually are pretty legit. So yeah, so I end up 1:09:52.560 --> 1:09:54.400 getting stuck in with this group and like really it 1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:56.000 kind of became like really good friends with a lot 1:09:56.000 --> 1:09:58.920 of them. And it's about half Australians, half like uh, 1:09:59.080 --> 1:10:00.760 you know, Americans are you know, We've got like a 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:04.400 French guy and a you know guy from Fiji or 1:10:04.400 --> 1:10:06.559 something like that. Anyway, so like all of the place right, 1:10:06.600 --> 1:10:09.400 So like but it's a cool league. It's like definitely 1:10:09.479 --> 1:10:12.879 like a little bit of Australian expats and a few Americans. 1:10:12.920 --> 1:10:14.720 So it's like kind of a good way to grow 1:10:14.760 --> 1:10:16.120 the game, I suppose, but like for me, it's just 1:10:16.120 --> 1:10:17.640 a good way to like sort of stay connected with 1:10:17.960 --> 1:10:19.680 what's going on back here and gives a good like 1:10:19.800 --> 1:10:22.320 athletic endeavor outlet because like once you're done playing sport 1:10:22.320 --> 1:10:24.320 in America, like they don't have these options. There's no 1:10:24.360 --> 1:10:26.240 country footy leagues like they'd have here, right, there's no 1:10:26.280 --> 1:10:29.040 country footy equivalent of like basketball or American football, Like 1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:31.080 if you don't play American football in college, or even 1:10:31.120 --> 1:10:33.000 if you do play in college, like once you're done, 1:10:33.000 --> 1:10:34.960 you're done, like you never play again. So it's like 1:10:35.040 --> 1:10:37.720 ninety nine percent athletes go pro and something other than sports. Yeah, 1:10:37.720 --> 1:10:40.720 that's right, so classic you can't even yeah, so like 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:43.559 even to have somebody to go throw football with, it's 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:46.439 just like people don't really go do that. So I'm like, 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:50.040 this is great. Like we've got sporting outlets. There's forty 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:51.960 or fifty clubs here in the in the United States, 1:10:51.960 --> 1:10:54.280 and like I somehow end up on like the best ones, 1:10:54.600 --> 1:10:57.000 like playing you know, these national tournaments. So end up 1:10:57.000 --> 1:10:59.120 being like a really good it's just kind of outlet 1:10:59.120 --> 1:11:00.760 and again like a good way connected back here. 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:03.000 So I want to ask you this because a lot 1:11:03.040 --> 1:11:04.479 of people don't know this, and you're you're being a 1:11:04.479 --> 1:11:06.559 bit humble, and now how many So they've got best 1:11:06.640 --> 1:11:09.240 in Ferris for the tournament, So there's a big national 1:11:09.280 --> 1:11:10.840 tournament where everyone kind of comes and that's where the 1:11:10.880 --> 1:11:12.639 winter kind of becomes the whole whole thing. 1:11:12.680 --> 1:11:13.960 It was in Austin last year. 1:11:14.240 --> 1:11:17.479 Yeah, the boys won, boys won, Boys gout lit boys 1:11:17.520 --> 1:11:20.760 during Out of the Cup old fosso we called we 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:22.639 called the beer out of the Cup fossil Fueld, Fossil 1:11:22.640 --> 1:11:23.200 fossil field. 1:11:23.240 --> 1:11:23.559 Fossil. 1:11:23.600 --> 1:11:25.680 Is this guy who's like, it's like mid fifties at 1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:30.320 this point, that this is not high level football he played. 1:11:30.360 --> 1:11:32.720 You've got sponsors on your jerseys he. 1:11:32.800 --> 1:11:35.080 Played, like, yeah, he played like pretty high level when 1:11:35.080 --> 1:11:37.000 he was younger. But anyway, so yeah. 1:11:36.880 --> 1:11:38.840 So how many how many best and Farris if you want, 1:11:39.280 --> 1:11:41.559 I think I've won best in Farriss at our club. 1:11:41.560 --> 1:11:43.960 I think four times for our our club. And then 1:11:44.040 --> 1:11:47.200 like I've won the best on in the grand final 1:11:47.280 --> 1:11:49.479 for like the big national tournament. Yeah twice, I want 1:11:49.520 --> 1:11:52.679 to say. And then that's for the whole tournament. 1:11:52.760 --> 1:11:54.320 That's on for the whole tournament, like once or twice 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:56.800 a well. So yeah, I'm been a pretty good little 1:11:56.880 --> 1:11:59.760 crack over the States. Again, very low level. This is not. 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:01.600 This is. 1:12:03.439 --> 1:12:05.479 There's some good players for sure, but like I'll tell 1:12:05.479 --> 1:12:07.160 you what when you're like the six to six rocker, 1:12:07.160 --> 1:12:08.720 you can get your hands onto the bed like it's yeah, 1:12:08.760 --> 1:12:10.320 you get a lot more touches and you probably should 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:11.600 and go forward and kick a goal or two. Then 1:12:11.640 --> 1:12:13.360 you're you're pretty well set for some of these medals 1:12:13.400 --> 1:12:14.320 that you probably don't deserve. 1:12:14.920 --> 1:12:17.040 I'll say this, Man, there's some people, because everyone used 1:12:17.080 --> 1:12:18.760 to play NFL, there's some people just see it as 1:12:18.760 --> 1:12:21.840 an opportunity to absolutely run through someone. And there was 1:12:22.000 --> 1:12:25.320 like I've seen some absolutely brutal things, like probably more 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:25.880 brutal than that. 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:29.000 As I found out that you can win medals without 1:12:29.040 --> 1:12:33.880 land of tackle. Figured that out. Yeah, well it is. 1:12:34.400 --> 1:12:36.720 It is unique down It's it's really cool because like 1:12:37.040 --> 1:12:39.839 this whole thing obviously in the US and to see sports. 1:12:39.840 --> 1:12:43.000 Someone make it over there and you know these opportunities 1:12:43.000 --> 1:12:44.639 and you talked about before, and that's something I want 1:12:44.640 --> 1:12:46.439 to eventually do in my lifetime is try to bring 1:12:46.439 --> 1:12:49.240 other Americans over here because there's such a there's such 1:12:49.240 --> 1:12:52.400 a limit as far as you know opportunities post in 1:12:52.520 --> 1:12:53.439 Cola and everything else. 1:12:53.439 --> 1:12:55.000 If you're not at the very very high end and 1:12:55.040 --> 1:12:58.640 there's so many athletes over there, there's absolute freaks that 1:12:58.720 --> 1:13:00.600 like we're just dominated to get go, you know, like 1:13:00.680 --> 1:13:02.599 learn how to kick at a younger age or whatever. Right, 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:05.040 Like it's there's some like spatial awareness of the game 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:07.160 when you're like, you know, if you're six foot and under, 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:08.439 that you'd really kind of need to grow up playing 1:13:08.439 --> 1:13:10.080 the sport. But like there's some there's some big boys 1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:12.240 out there that they could just really wreck it up, 1:13:12.280 --> 1:13:14.240 right if they, like, hell a lot better than athletes 1:13:14.240 --> 1:13:14.639 than I am. 1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:17.920 I'm going to say that, but you know, it is 1:13:18.200 --> 1:13:19.760 very awkward on my side to be able to hand 1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:22.600 metal to to your brother who's showing improving to be 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:26.960 a better athlete than myself every single year. But I'll 1:13:27.000 --> 1:13:28.320 ask you this, I want I want to kind of 1:13:28.479 --> 1:13:31.320 move on from the US I fl now as a brother, 1:13:32.080 --> 1:13:33.800 you see me do a lot of random ship, right, 1:13:33.880 --> 1:13:35.719 So obviously I came here and I had no idea 1:13:35.760 --> 1:13:38.080 anything anyone, And now I'm kind of doing all this 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:41.000 random stuff and starting a podcast and also this shit, 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:44.760 where do you see me And what's the most ridiculous 1:13:44.800 --> 1:13:46.120 thing you see me doing in the future. 1:13:46.439 --> 1:13:51.720 Do you think anything involving politics? Oh, I think I 1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:54.080 think Like so, you know, I think any kind of 1:13:54.120 --> 1:13:56.559 like ambassadorship would be a pretty cool You. 1:13:56.560 --> 1:13:58.360 Think i'd get like an om medal or something like that? 1:13:58.439 --> 1:14:01.120 Is that they call it aom or Order of Australia. 1:14:01.280 --> 1:14:03.519 Oh I am o am metal? What is that Order 1:14:03.520 --> 1:14:05.800 of Australia? Essentially, you know that ridiculous thing called the 1:14:05.880 --> 1:14:08.120 Queen and the royal family. They kind of like acknowledge 1:14:08.160 --> 1:14:09.880 you and say like you're a better human than others. 1:14:09.960 --> 1:14:12.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know about that. 1:14:12.080 --> 1:14:14.599 I don't know. I think can we get any of those? 1:14:14.600 --> 1:14:17.599 That'll same time? But I think, like, I guess you're 1:14:17.640 --> 1:14:19.280 a citizen now, right, so maybe you can jump into 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:21.200 some of that stuff. So yeah, I have to give 1:14:21.280 --> 1:14:23.760 up my US citizenship, that's okay. Yeah. So as far 1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:25.560 as like ridiculous things, that's like maybe one of the 1:14:25.600 --> 1:14:29.280 things the US Ambassador to Australia. I think I love that. 1:14:29.280 --> 1:14:31.639 That would be pretty sweet. Yeah, I don't know, try 1:14:31.680 --> 1:14:33.280 to hook that up, but no, I don't. I don't 1:14:33.280 --> 1:14:35.200 know as far as like other ridiculous things, I mean 1:14:35.439 --> 1:14:37.360 I could see you getting on like I don't know 1:14:37.360 --> 1:14:40.200 if there's like a Bachelor equivalent. Oh yeah, you jump 1:14:40.240 --> 1:14:42.800 into something like that. Some reality TV. Maybe some like 1:14:42.880 --> 1:14:46.040 Dancing with the Stars. That's a question. Yeah, no, I think, like, 1:14:46.120 --> 1:14:48.439 you know, you're real embarrassing, right, dancing with the stars. Yeah. 1:14:48.640 --> 1:14:50.240 I've never seen a draft dance, but it'd be kind 1:14:50.240 --> 1:14:56.360 of yeah yeah, country line dance. That's right. That is 1:14:56.360 --> 1:14:58.960 one good thing about it. Yeah, the country experience back 1:14:58.960 --> 1:15:01.720 in college. But no outsaide that. I think, you know, 1:15:02.000 --> 1:15:04.839 probably continue to do a bit media, maybe some some travel. 1:15:05.560 --> 1:15:07.760 Try to parlay some of that into something like this. 1:15:07.960 --> 1:15:09.519 Maybe I think the Bachelor. I like that. 1:15:10.120 --> 1:15:12.240 Yeah, yeah, some terrible stories might be and be on 1:15:12.280 --> 1:15:15.479 the Bachelor, and oh gosh, I'd be there. I'd be ruthless. 1:15:15.479 --> 1:15:17.519 I feel like that absolutely terribarts. Some of the women 1:15:17.520 --> 1:15:19.240 that come on there, they just are there for the fame. 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:22.120 You should yeah, be great, you'd be great viewing. That's 1:15:22.120 --> 1:15:23.439 a great viewing. That's tell you went not for the 1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:27.920 Bachelor one year? What for the Bachelor's a for you guy? 1:15:28.000 --> 1:15:29.200 They had open casting in Austin. 1:15:29.280 --> 1:15:31.920 Well they put me through, so like, well, so you 1:15:31.920 --> 1:15:33.479 made to the next round. Oh yeah, so they had 1:15:33.560 --> 1:15:35.800 they had open casting in Austin, And it's like and 1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:37.760 we're thinking, I'm like saying, I'm like probably twenty four, 1:15:37.800 --> 1:15:39.400 twenty five. This one. I'm single. It's like right next 1:15:39.400 --> 1:15:41.400 where I'm living, so I'm like i can walk over there, 1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:43.840 and it's open casting for the Bachelor. Likes gonna be 1:15:43.880 --> 1:15:45.959 some good looking young ladies there, so we're gonna go 1:15:45.760 --> 1:15:48.200 to good play hello. And yeah we did like the 1:15:48.200 --> 1:15:49.559 whole try to put it just kind of like a 1:15:49.960 --> 1:15:51.960 like a random Tuesday, and I'm like whatever, and then yeah, 1:15:51.960 --> 1:15:53.400 they're sure enough. They called back. They're like, we want 1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:55.160 you to like go to the next round. We want 1:15:55.160 --> 1:15:57.280 to want to fly you to the Sorry, they didn't 1:15:57.280 --> 1:15:58.960 not want to fly me anywhere. They said, we need 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:01.320 to get you. We need you to come to Dallas 1:16:01.400 --> 1:16:05.240 or whatever. It was like, yeah, yeah, exactly, and I 1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:07.000 was like, I'm good. So never I never actually like 1:16:07.000 --> 1:16:08.920 went forward on it, but it's kind of a fun 1:16:09.200 --> 1:16:10.519 I was like, oh, it's a bit of a bit 1:16:10.560 --> 1:16:14.400 of a pump up, but yeah, it's funny. It was like, yeah, definitely, 1:16:14.560 --> 1:16:16.320 Well I'll try to carry the torch. Maybe I'll be 1:16:16.320 --> 1:16:17.559 on the Bachelor. Is a Cox brother. 1:16:17.600 --> 1:16:19.599 There you go, before we get out of here, any 1:16:19.640 --> 1:16:21.960 embarrassing stories, you will throw me under the bus with. 1:16:23.280 --> 1:16:24.720 I don't know, like maybe when I touch you how 1:16:24.720 --> 1:16:27.479 to ride a bike? That was y. So we got 1:16:27.479 --> 1:16:29.479 a big hill by our house, and I'm like, let's 1:16:29.520 --> 1:16:31.080 just get him going, you know, like on two weeks. 1:16:31.040 --> 1:16:33.000 Oh, I can I set the scene here. I'm like twelve. 1:16:33.080 --> 1:16:35.080 Most people aren around their pocket like six. 1:16:35.160 --> 1:16:37.479 I was two wheeler. It's like two years old. I 1:16:37.560 --> 1:16:39.400 was more of the guy on the scooter the razor. 1:16:39.640 --> 1:16:41.439 I was like, it's way easier to stay on than actually, 1:16:41.760 --> 1:16:43.519 like well, you know on two wheels, it's obviously the 1:16:43.520 --> 1:16:45.200 faster you get going easier doesn't stay out. 1:16:45.240 --> 1:16:46.479 So I'm like, listen, let's just take him to the 1:16:46.479 --> 1:16:46.800 top of. 1:16:46.720 --> 1:16:48.960 The hill, get him going nice and past, and he'll 1:16:49.000 --> 1:16:50.440 be able to stay up because otherwise. 1:16:50.160 --> 1:16:52.280 He's like too nervous to get going too fast. He's 1:16:52.320 --> 1:16:53.880 telling them one way or the other. So like, get 1:16:53.880 --> 1:16:55.479 on to the top of the hill. We get him 1:16:55.560 --> 1:16:59.640 rolling down, rolling media shut out, We're rolling out is 1:16:59.640 --> 1:17:00.719 this does her? Guy Fieri? 1:17:00.800 --> 1:17:04.599 This thing roll out to get him rolling downhill and 1:17:05.280 --> 1:17:06.920 I forgot to tell him which one was the breaks? 1:17:07.479 --> 1:17:09.760 No idea which of the breaks? And he smashes into 1:17:09.760 --> 1:17:11.559 this mailbox. He's got blood coming out of his gut 1:17:11.800 --> 1:17:13.759 and I'm like, oh, no, Mom's gonna be pissed. 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:16.920 So like he's like he starts crying. 1:17:16.920 --> 1:17:19.360 I'm like just getting stuck inside. And so yeah, we 1:17:19.360 --> 1:17:21.439 got him into the side. But like no, I said that, 1:17:21.479 --> 1:17:23.280 it was like a pretty funny one. There's definitely one. 1:17:23.280 --> 1:17:26.599 We're playing indoor soccer, we're kids, and uh, Mom had 1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:29.360 this old like oil painting of her like great aunt 1:17:29.479 --> 1:17:31.800 who was like a pasty was young. It was like 1:17:31.840 --> 1:17:35.519 a year old painting and like it's got the original glass, 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:39.679 the original frame, all this stuff. And he just goes 1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:44.960 over the proverbial crossbars right into this glass painting smashes 1:17:45.000 --> 1:17:51.400 the glass. I'm like, Mom had nothing to do with this, 1:17:51.960 --> 1:17:54.280 and she's like, I mean I've never seen her that, 1:17:54.680 --> 1:17:57.000 I don't think yet in my life and rolls in. 1:17:57.120 --> 1:18:00.640 But so needless said, the painting survived. The frame is 1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:04.640 finally that one hundred and fifty absolutely cooked. Yeah, so 1:18:05.040 --> 1:18:06.160 you know, I had to take it back into the 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:08.000 frame shop. And now there's probably a couple others that 1:18:08.200 --> 1:18:10.920 I should should probably remain off air that. Yeah, that's 1:18:10.960 --> 1:18:14.000 that's more college stay for the next time. The good 1:18:14.000 --> 1:18:17.120 old day just sinking out all was great about. So 1:18:17.160 --> 1:18:19.160 we had this nineteen sixty one for share. That was 1:18:19.160 --> 1:18:21.439 our first car. So anytime you wanted to leave the 1:18:21.479 --> 1:18:23.559 house late night, it's tough getting out, but you left 1:18:23.560 --> 1:18:24.920 early enough because this thing was loud. 1:18:25.280 --> 1:18:27.599 It was like there was you can hear it rolling 1:18:27.640 --> 1:18:29.760 down from five blocks away, like the tree. 1:18:30.320 --> 1:18:31.840 You got the shifter up top on the on the 1:18:31.920 --> 1:18:34.640 you know, on the steering column. Yeah. Well, if you 1:18:34.640 --> 1:18:36.040 wanted to come home late night, so you couldn't get 1:18:36.040 --> 1:18:37.599 out late now because it's too loid like you just 1:18:37.640 --> 1:18:38.679 like you could? 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:42.000 Well you do, yeah, your buddy, Yeah, I got Chuck 1:18:42.040 --> 1:18:43.080 Camoe in front of mind. 1:18:43.080 --> 1:18:44.120 You got to push the front. 1:18:44.160 --> 1:18:46.599 You pushed it out neutral eventually rolled down the rest 1:18:46.600 --> 1:18:47.760 of the hill and then turn it out right. 1:18:47.880 --> 1:18:49.320 But again, the same hill that you can roll down 1:18:49.360 --> 1:18:51.080 on your bike and smash in the mailbox with, you 1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:54.280 can use that same hill throw the car neutral, makes 1:18:54.520 --> 1:18:56.839 not a sound and drift it right into the driveway 1:18:56.880 --> 1:18:58.439 and then nobody knows what's how you got help and 1:18:58.479 --> 1:19:01.040 you like at the next day, feeling awful. 1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:05.519 Mom and Dad are never otherwizer all good? Oh man, 1:19:06.000 --> 1:19:07.519 was there any other stuff you want to embrass me with? 1:19:07.560 --> 1:19:08.080 While we're on this. 1:19:08.280 --> 1:19:10.800 I think we're all set for today. Say something for 1:19:10.800 --> 1:19:12.400 the next one. You'll do a part two. Wheneybody come 1:19:12.439 --> 1:19:14.559 back next time. There we go. Well, massive, thank you 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:15.040 for coming on. 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:17.040 Hopefully people have learned a bit more about the journey 1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:20.080 of myself, yourself, everything else, all the crazy stories that 1:19:20.160 --> 1:19:20.519 come with it. 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:22.000 We'll write a book one to day, I'm sure, but 1:19:22.880 --> 1:19:25.160 we'll that. Massive. Thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. 1:19:25.160 --> 1:19:26.080 Thanks for flying out here. 1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:27.439 I know, and I played half a footy and you've 1:19:27.439 --> 1:19:30.200 sent probably ten grand to get out here, but hopefully 1:19:30.240 --> 1:19:31.080 it was worth it. 1:19:30.640 --> 1:19:34.080 It's all good. Yeah, maybe next time next year having me. 1:19:34.600 --> 1:19:36.840 We're all probably super proud obviously of what you've accomplished 1:19:36.840 --> 1:19:38.960 over here, so I definitely appreciate you if you have 1:19:39.040 --> 1:19:41.080 us a platform to share some of the stories. And yeah, 1:19:41.120 --> 1:19:42.880 it's it's pretty cool what you got here. The podcast 1:19:42.960 --> 1:19:45.200 is also look forward to hear more of them. But yeah, 1:19:45.200 --> 1:19:47.120 thanks for having me. And it's been a really cool 1:19:47.160 --> 1:19:49.160 experience from from day one, from. 1:19:49.120 --> 1:19:51.080 Day one, and we're still kicking on. That's right, still 1:19:51.120 --> 1:19:53.720 kicking on here nine coming out all right, we can 1:19:53.720 --> 1:19:56.120 get double digits. It'll be huge, huge, get one hundred gas. 1:19:56.120 --> 1:19:56.639 It'll be massive. 1:19:56.640 --> 1:19:58.400 I will be back. What are you on? Ninety four? 1:19:58.479 --> 1:20:02.720 Ninety four? All right, more games, hundred goals. That's it. 1:20:02.760 --> 1:20:04.280 I like you. I've already done hundred goals, scheduled to 1:20:04.280 --> 1:20:04.800 a hundred games. 1:20:04.840 --> 1:20:06.920 But thanks so much mine, as always everyone, before we 1:20:06.920 --> 1:20:10.520 finish up. We've got the seven platforms, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, 1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:14.519 uh TikTok, Spotify, and Apple fall us all on those 1:20:15.280 --> 1:20:16.840 check it out. We got some amazing stuff. We've got 1:20:16.880 --> 1:20:19.559 some some interesting talks Bread and I've been having recently, 1:20:19.640 --> 1:20:22.599 and we're gonna get back onto the schedule and we're 1:20:22.600 --> 1:20:24.400 gonna seriously have some amazing stuff coming up in a 1:20:24.439 --> 1:20:26.200 lot of catch ups and everything else, some embarrassing stories. 1:20:26.240 --> 1:20:28.679 I'll probably go into it more, but as always, thanks 1:20:28.680 --> 1:20:30.479 so much for listening, and very excited to have you 1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:32.600 on like share everything else, and we'll speak. 1:20:32.360 --> 1:20:40.599 To you soon. See Yeah,