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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest

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Speaker 2: about their highs as well as their lows, all in

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Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello on

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Speaker 2: the pot. Today, we have an incredibly resilient and inspiring

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Speaker 2: human being who, to be completely honest with you, has

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Speaker 2: been through hell and back. But this story today is

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Speaker 2: about grief and hope and yes, definitely resilience and might

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Speaker 2: I add incredible surfer Kayaker. But also this story is

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Speaker 2: about a beautiful magpie named Penguin.

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Speaker 1: Who really bought a family back.

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Speaker 2: Together after being through such a horrific experience.

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Speaker 1: So I really hope that you are touched.

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Speaker 2: And empowered by the awesome human being that Sam Bloom is.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sam. I'm a bit nervous to interview you, mate.

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Speaker 2: Why first of all two best selling books about and

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Speaker 2: also heroing animals, Right up my alley.

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Speaker 1: I'm a vet's daughter.

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Speaker 2: So okay, anything about healing power of animals?

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Speaker 1: Sign me up?

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Speaker 2: Two Time World, Power Surf Champ. Okay, just a lazy

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Speaker 2: two time World.

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Speaker 1: Pretty amazing. Yeah, it was pretty stoked. And they're.

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Speaker 2: A Hollywood movie. Penguin Bloom shot at your house, no list.

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Speaker 2: It was starring Naomi What Jackie Weaver please your mum right.

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Speaker 3: It was just quite random. And Andrew Lincoln was cam.

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Speaker 2: Ah and did a beautiful beauty like I. So when

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Speaker 2: you said yes to jumping on this pod, I was like, great,

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Speaker 2: now I'm going to deep dive.

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Speaker 1: I love deep diving guests.

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Speaker 2: And I started watching all the behind the scenes of

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Speaker 2: Penguin Bloom.

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Speaker 1: That was my hilarious that's kind of my way.

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Speaker 2: And there's heaps of amazing behind the scenes VIDs on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I don't even know. Isn't that terrible? I've not

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Speaker 1: even seen them, haven't you. Oh it's so fun.

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Speaker 2: But I was balling my eyes out of this incredible

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Speaker 2: story of like how magical a magpie can be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty magical for sure.

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Speaker 2: So Okay, one thing I didn't warn you about is

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Speaker 2: my brain's like a pin pol machine. So we're probably

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Speaker 2: going to go in all different directors. Can we go

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Speaker 2: back to six year old Sam going hey, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be a nurse. I want to explore. I want

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Speaker 2: to help people. Did you literally know that young that

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Speaker 2: that's what you wanted to do?

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Speaker 1: Yes, seriously, I remember it was. It's so vivid.

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Speaker 3: I remember when I was in infant school, I think

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Speaker 3: it was year one or first grade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for six years. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then our teacher I said to everybody, you have

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Speaker 3: be when you grow up. And and I drew this

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Speaker 3: nurse with this massive needle. And then I heard which

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Speaker 3: I hate needles, which is quite weird.

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Speaker 1: I hate needles.

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Speaker 3: I hate giving them and I hate getting them. And

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Speaker 3: then I drew the Pyramids in the background, and in

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Speaker 3: my head, I wanted to go and work in Africa

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Speaker 3: as a nurse.

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Speaker 1: Which fast forward, Well, I.

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Speaker 3: Became a nurse, and I've been to Africa, like and

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Speaker 3: love Ethiopia. Well, I love Africa in general. I love

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Speaker 1: What do you love about it? I love the people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people are so busy, kind, so kind, and so

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Speaker 3: hospitable actually, like yeah, like they have nothing. Yeah, They'll

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Speaker 3: tea or coffee or whatever. That's what I love about them.

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Speaker 2: And animal I like the animal brain, like the animals

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Speaker 3: Too, So the first few times I actually went to Africa.

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Speaker 3: So my first time was obviously to Egypt because came

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Speaker 3: safari and whatnot. It's more like different people. So I

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Speaker 2: super cool. So then I'm going to cut too little

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Speaker 2: bits of your story. Nineteen years old, working at a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my mum and dad's cake shop.

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Speaker 1: And Cam walked in.

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Speaker 3: we didn't go to school together, okay, And so Cam

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Speaker 3: bring his dog on Bundy and you know, I kind

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Speaker 3: So we used to his chat and then you know

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Speaker 3: was funny because one night we were I was at

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Speaker 3: and came was a little bit drunk. So I asked

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Speaker 1: I love it, Yeah, asked him to a party.

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Speaker 3: And then it went on from there.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: And you get the vibe from looking at your story

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Speaker 2: and reading and whatnot that you guys were kind of

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Speaker 2: like free spirits and just love to travel and be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. Well that's why I think that's

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Speaker 3: what we've always got on so well. We have common like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: common interests. We both love traveling and especially to developing countries. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like Ethiopia and like yeah, middle things like that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my godness, you give me a travel this right now.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been to all these places. They should go there.

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Speaker 2: I know, so then you build this beautiful family three boys.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, so cam Well were together for like

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Speaker 3: they're all quite close. The first two were really close.

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Speaker 3: They're like seventeen months apart. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that was a bit hectic.

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Speaker 3: And then and then we had Olie who's two years

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Speaker 1: Still it was pretty crazy. Three munchkins.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it was pretty crazy at home, but no,

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Speaker 3: it was great. And I love having boys because I've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they would love the adventure side. They'd be like,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, let's go surfing. Let's go right, skate skateboards

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Speaker 3: and yeah, b Max bikes and yeah it was funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd always.

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Speaker 3: gives your bike. I have been racing them if you

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Speaker 2: Okay, So in twenty thirteen, you're like, all right, let's

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Speaker 2: take the kids to Ethiopia.

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Speaker 1: Via Egypt by Egypt. Yes, okay, so you're going to

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Speaker 1: go to Egypt. But there was like a travel warning.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it was too unsafe to go to travel

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Speaker 3: around Cairo. So that's why we went. We thought, oh,

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Speaker 3: we'll just go to Thailand. Yeah. Yeah, it's close and gorgeous,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say Thailand I have been gorgeous people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're beautiful people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So we thought, oh that's easy.

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Speaker 1: So that's why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we always wanted to I don't know, I

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Speaker 3: guess you could say instill our love of travel in

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Speaker 2: Oh, because what travel takes courage for some people like

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Speaker 2: something does Yeah that don't that aren't natural travelers very overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they get anxious and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you to imagine instill that value system in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: And you know so much, you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: the world's an amazing place. You know, so many incredible

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Speaker 1: So you're in Thailand, you've been there three or four days?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't mind. Yeah, okay, So we were in

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Speaker 3: was an eco hotel, so you got a free drink

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Speaker 3: if they didn't clean your room, like a free choice feeling. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: And so we went up the stairs. I actually don't

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Speaker 2: And then that's when you basically severed your spies or

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Speaker 2: was it more like considered a break?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, because they've never said I severed it,

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Speaker 3: but I think it is okay. Yes, I broke my back,

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Speaker 3: So I broke it like just actually on my chest, yes, level.

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Speaker 3: So it's where your braws sits, which is very annoying.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so I am complete, which means I have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've heard Cam say because your head copped

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Speaker 2: so much, there was a lot of blood and the kiddos.

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Speaker 3: you said, I had like I flashed my skull and

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Speaker 3: it was kind of blood everywhere, and I'd actually bitten

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Speaker 3: was a lot of blood coming up my mouth. Oh

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Speaker 3: and I had internal bleeding in my chest. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: so I was kind of gurgling, which is pretty great.

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Speaker 3: So I mean then so all the kids ran down

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Speaker 3: and you know, I'm lying there unconscious bleeding in Thailand. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was pretty traumatic for them and.

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Speaker 1: And for you, Like this is a split second.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but I don't remember any of it.

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Speaker 1: Do you? When? Do you remember it? When a few

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Speaker 1: days later in our hospital in Thailand?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, actually it must have been it must have

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Speaker 2: The with weird things that we all like take for granted,

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Speaker 3: And I felt like a really bad mom because I

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Speaker 2: Enter Penguin three months later, three months later, Yes, and

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Speaker 2: My favorite video I think I've seen of Penguin, so

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Speaker 1: Yes, is the stealing of the tea bag.

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Speaker 3: Oh so if I know, she was pretty cheeky, right yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: You'd just literally be sipping on your tea and she'd

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'd put it back and she'd be like no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so she was flying, Yeah, she was.

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Speaker 3: She'd fly away for a few days and she'd come

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Speaker 3: You know it's called it yea haha. And then we

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Speaker 1: That was what got me that it was pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Oh could you imagine this little animal like graning so

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 1: So, And I was saying this before we hit record.

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Speaker 2: When we lived in Bangalore, this family would like this

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Speaker 2: It was three of them would come and just chill

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I said to Matt, this is the same family. I'm

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Speaker 1: So they are quite intelligent, aren't they.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And they would have like they would have

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Speaker 3: think that's cool. I have a curra actually there's two

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Speaker 3: Guy finally it's like he finally trust me and he'll

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Speaker 1: And you've had you've had on the Maggie strips. I've

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Speaker 3: You've had We've had yeah, we've had We've had magpies,

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Speaker 2: So you've had a whole managerie basically coming to stay.

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Speaker 2: And do you find that it's animals that need a

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so usually people find them and obviously they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we had Frankie.

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Speaker 3: She was a currawong. She was so cool really.

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Speaker 3: So you know cuckoos yeah yeah, and you know how

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Speaker 2: But I felt felt that even watching penguin like chase

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Speaker 3: That's what they like.

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Speaker 1: They're crazy and they sleep.

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Speaker 2: Would they come in and literally jump in the bed,

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00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 2: sleep on like on your just but like hang on

445
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 2: to like hang up. So they explain how they sleep.

446
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 2: Do they kind of like hold onto like iadio fingers

447
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: or something.

448
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, but normally they don't sleep like that.

449
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's just the Yeah.

450
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 3: She would just come in and jump up into a

451
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 3: bed and just roll on her back and then like

452
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 3: grab your fingers and she just kind of yeah and

453
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 3: then fall asleep. And so it's pretty funny, but they

454
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 3: don't sleep like that one night.

455
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: Okay, that's just fun. Fun and games at your house.

456
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 3: Yes, fun. Yeah.

457
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 2: So the so two best selling books. But the first

458
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: book was literally cam snapping because being an amazing photographer

459
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 2: snapping these moments with penguin, right.

460
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 3: Yes, so they that was so random. The whole kind

461
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 3: of penguin like story, I guess you could say started

462
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 3: from an Instagram account I'm following, Yeah, but you know,

463
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 3: we only started that as a bit of a joke.

464
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: Really.

465
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we found Penguin, you know Cam being the photographer,

466
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 3: like you said, he's always got his camera everywhere and

467
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 3: he can't help himself but take millions of photos. And

468
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,959
Speaker 3: so the boys said one of we started an Instagram

469
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 3: account and that's why we called it Penguin the Magpie.

470
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 3: And that's kind of how it took off. I think

471
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: a journalist, an ABC journalist picked up on Brisbane maybe

472
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: saw it and wrote an article and then it went nuts,

473
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 3: so which is pretty hilarious.

474
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: We've got to talk about the moment that you're like, oh,

475
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 2: this is our story is going to become a movie? Yes,

476
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: Naomi Watts, is you amazing? Critical We're going to move

477
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 2: out of our home because that's going to become the set.

478
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: Like what how can you take me through some of

479
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: that process? Like how did that happen?

480
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 3: Well, a friend of ours, Emma Cooper, she's a producer,

481
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: she's best mates with Naomi, and Emma gave Naomi our

482
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 3: book and it really and Naomi read it and she

483
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: read it to her kids and it really resonated with

484
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 3: her being a mum herself, and she's like, I want

485
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: to I want to be a producer and I want

486
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 3: to play Sam.

487
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: Coral And then did it get sent to Reese witherusmooth?

488
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 3: Oh well, Bruna pap Andrea. She's also one of the producers.

489
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: She was working with Reese, but then they went separate ways.

490
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 2: So was it all produced and done in Australia, So

491
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 2: it was a full Australian movie.

492
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: Cool?

493
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, by a bunch of Aussies essentially. Yeah, it's

494
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: very cool. So yeah. So when they first optioned the book,

495
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: I do remember saying to them I wanted to be

496
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 3: real and honest, and I said, I don't want you

497
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,239
Speaker 3: to hollywood it.

498
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: If you know what I mean, I did you yeah,

499
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: because I didn't want.

500
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the film, Naomi be me,

501
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 3: you know, going yeah, life's great and everything's perfect, because

502
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: it's not, and it's still a challenging.

503
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: We say she nail the like she was phenomenal, even

504
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: the kids.

505
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but no, I think, Naomi, it's so funny.

506
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 3: My sister's like, oh my god, she just looked like

507
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: did that look she was really angry and really sad,

508
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: And I'm like.

509
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And I think I've heard you say in

510
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: an interview like there's a scene where she close all

511
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: the curtains and doesn't want to look because where you

512
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: live is like this, you can see your favorite surf

513
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: spot exactly, and you're like, I don't want any part.

514
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to see this. This is actually torture.

515
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: It was.

516
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 3: It was It was like so bittersweet, Like, yeah, I'd

517
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: go out in the morning and look at Bogola Beach

518
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: is where I grew up and North Bogola was my

519
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: favorite surf spot in the world, and it would just

520
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: make me so sad, you know, I'd be like I

521
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: would do anything to be able to grab my board

522
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: and run down to the beach, but I couldn't. So

523
00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: it was super bittersweet.

524
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like she like she really nailed that.

525
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: She did feeling because I said to my boyfriend grabbed

526
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: him a few times, like I can't stop crying because

527
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: she hit the emotion of But I also.

528
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: Think the books have so beautifully as well.

529
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: Can we talk about surfing because I know it's something

530
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: that you love. How did like, how did this happen?

531
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: What happened to make you go? All?

532
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: Right? Here I am. I'm going to re evoke a

533
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: passion that.

534
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: I had cut to two time World chat like.

535
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know it took that took years. Really, yes,

536
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: because after the accident. I remember when I was in

537
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: rehab and I was like going, well, I'm never going

538
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 3: to surf. I'm never gonna you know, obviously can't play soccer,

539
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 3: you know, come ountain bike, and that's why I chose kayaking.

540
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: But it was my first summer after the accident and

541
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: Cam took me up to Palm Beach, which you see

542
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: something beautiful beach near us, and our friend was out

543
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: there in the surf and he goes, come on, Sam,

544
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: get on my board, like you used to surf. And

545
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: I'm like nah, and then he goes, now, come on,

546
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: so he said, So I said, okay, So I lied.

547
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: I was just laying on his board. He pushed me

548
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: away for I'm like, nah, that's not surfing, just as

549
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: far as I was concerned, and I'm like, can't jump

550
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: to my feet. So I'm like, I'm not doing that.

551
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: Didn't feel right, didn't feel right, And so kind of

552
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: fast forward five years. I just got this random letter

553
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: of Nola Wilson, the mother of Julian Wilson. I don't

554
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: know Julian's a professional surfer, yeah he was. He is

555
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: kind of he's not on the two aurist such, yeah,

556
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 3: I got it.

557
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

558
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: So Nola, Julian's mom sent me the most beautiful letter

559
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 3: encouraging me to get back out of the water, and

560
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 3: so I did. Yeah, it's amazing how this one simple

561
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: act of kindness. Yeah, completely changed like change. Yeah, so

562
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 3: I owe a lot to Nola.

563
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: And then did you just work it?

564
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: Like, did you work with a trainer to get yourself

565
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: because I imagine your upper body strength must be off

566
00:25:59,560 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: the chart.

567
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: Well it was for a while because I was training.

568
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: I've been a bit lazy lately, but that's okay. Yeah,

569
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: So I just got on a normal shortboard.

570
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to think, oh yes, and that's right.

571
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: And so Cam just kind of glued a handle like

572
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 3: a footstrap almost like like what you have on a windsurf. Yeah,

573
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: at the front of my board. So I just used

574
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: to hold onto that and Cam would push me on

575
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: the way. So yeah, it was fun. And then and

576
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: then jeez, when was it. It must have been twenty eighteen, Yes,

577
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: August twenty eighteen. I went in my first competition for

578
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: this strange titles and yeah, it was just fun. It

579
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: was I was this up against this guy Barney who's

580
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: he's the most amazing guy.

581
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: And I know Varney, we're talking about it, you know, and.

582
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah totally, and it's just like this is cool.

583
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this.

584
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 3: Barnie and I think in that COLMP because we're in

585
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: the same category kind of thing. Yeah, And I was

586
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: like yeah, And that's when I got on his Traine

587
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: team and went to America in twenty eighteen for my

588
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: first World Championships. May look like so it was pretty stoked.

589
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: But I think I do think I have a little

590
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 3: bit of an advantage in the fact that I've grown

591
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 3: up surfing.

592
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you know what I mean, your friend.

593
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of when you know how to read the waves.

594
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: And I interviewed a surf and they said it, when

595
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: you're in the water, something else happens, like you start

596
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: to read the energy of the water.

597
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you talking. I had no

598
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: idea that, Yeah, that was it.

599
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: I've thought about like weather patterns and like looking out

600
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: at the surf.

601
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: But he's like, I don't know. When you're in the water,

602
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: it's a whole nother Yeah.

603
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah that's true. It is a beast. So yeah,

604
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 3: so that's I was so stoked. I was stoke when

605
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: I won that first World Championships because we took our

606
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: kids over.

607
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: Was that their first time to America?

608
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: Yes, it was my first time to America. To America,

609
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: it's really cool and so yeah, when I won, I

610
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: was just I was happy because I kind of wanted

611
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: to It sounds strange, but I wanted to thank them,

612
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: thank them for there for me and saying and just

613
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: showing them that, look like we can still do pretty

614
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: cool things.

615
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: Your family is pretty cool, Like no, but like what

616
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: a cool fam to Just like I've heard you talk

617
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: about how they were the ones that like, even when

618
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: you were feeling shitty and crappy, they were like And

619
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: there's actually a beautiful scene in the movie where Penguin's

620
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: talking to you.

621
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: And like keeping at you. One of one of the

622
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: kids is like, Mom.

623
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah talking to you.

624
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: You know, I like the.

625
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: You've got a very special fam I know you know that.

626
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: You don't need me to tell Oh, no.

627
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: No, I am.

628
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm incredibly proud of the boys because they've been amazing

629
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: and they've seen me at my lowest ever. I mean

630
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: I've never I was never like that, are you supposed

631
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: to be happy, you know, happy and super energetic and stuff,

632
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: and yeah, they've seen me, yeah at the last I've

633
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: ever been.

634
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: So as someone that has like been through such grief,

635
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: loss and life change, what about like you? You must

636
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: be such a determined and resilient person. No, obviously it's

637
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: effing hard. And some days, because I've heard you say it,

638
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: some days in the morning you have this moment.

639
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: Of like I wish I wish I was old.

640
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: Same oh ma, every day I wish I wake up.

641
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: It's so strange, and it still happens. I'll wake up

642
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: go you know, like I'm still like this because I

643
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: never dream I'm in a wheel chair. You always always

644
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: dream I'm running around, So it's so frustrating. Then you

645
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: wake up me like damn it.

646
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So like look at it, and I'm not

647
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: trying to be like but look at all the great

648
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: that you do, but like you have probably like empowered

649
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: and helped and being a voice for people that have

650
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: felt lost and low and sad.

651
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: And so my question is, like people that.

652
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: Are not stuck in but like feeling grief, Like we

653
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: don't all have a penguin, do you know what I mean?

654
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: Do you have any anything around, like not necessarily advice,

655
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: but like how to move through grief?

656
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: Sure, well I think well, for me, exercise played a

657
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: massive role.

658
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

659
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: I would just usually say to people, just find something

660
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: that you love doing and that you're passionate about and

661
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: and that you have a goal, like a purpose.

662
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: I feel like you're a super purpose driven person. I maybe, yeah,

663
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: I think.

664
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Speaker 3: I think not only that, I think even like when

665
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Speaker 3: growing up, like if I want to do something, I'll

666
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Speaker 3: do it my mind to it. Yesh, you know, like

667
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: I remember, sorry we are jumping around now, but you

668
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: probably you are probably way too young. But there used

669
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Speaker 3: to be a magazine called Simply Living.

670
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Speaker 1: Yeah you're okay.

671
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 3: I remember seeing it one day and there was on

672
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Speaker 3: the cover with a man from Bhutan this yeah you know,

673
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: and I was like, I so want to go there.

674
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Speaker 1: So have you been. Yeah, it's on my list.

675
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: Oh you should goes don't measure national growth happinessess.

676
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's beautiful country.

677
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: Where it like if like I think travel as well.

678
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: For the way you're talking about, find that thing that

679
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: you love, do more of that thing that you love.

680
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: If it's movement, then make it makes work for.

681
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: You, if it's music, whatever, just find something that you

682
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: love to do.

683
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: I think travel is one of those things as well.

684
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: Definitely, if you could give and I know I'll ask

685
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: you this in the hot seat, but if you could

686
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: say three places people need to visit, where should they go?

687
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Okay?

688
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: Well, Ethiopia, yeah, jeez, Well, Butan is beautiful. It's expensive though.

689
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to pay a very big you have

690
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: to pay to get in a couple.

691
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: Hundred dollars a day for the visa.

692
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: So maybe not time, I think on the goal list. Yeah,

693
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: West Africa. I loved Ghana.

694
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: I loved Marley in West Africa. I remember in Ghana

695
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: the ladies were so cool, like like the buses many were,

696
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: they were amazing.

697
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: Where else?

698
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: Oh, Syria, really I love Syria.

699
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh, make just given me a whole list of place

700
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: I've never been.

701
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: Give you a huge list getting Jordan like loads and

702
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: los of like places.

703
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: Oh, sign me up. Okay.

704
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: So in the show notes, I'm going to have how

705
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: people can get the both of your books, both of

706
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: your been selling books. My friend will put the trailer

707
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 2: to the movie in there as well. But like, and

708
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: you're doing public speaking, and yes, mate, you don't stop.

709
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: No, No, that's the most randommest thing, right, He's only

710
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: a full introvert and like the shyest person ever.

711
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: Do you know what? People don't believe that I'm introvert.

712
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: You're an introvert competent.

713
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

714
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: But I then I get my energy when I'm alone,

715
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? So I go and

716
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 2: do you and I'm both speaking in an event tomorrow. Yes,

717
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: I'll need to chill the next day and I want

718
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: to just be me and my boy just chill be

719
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: in nature.

720
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then my batteries reachar Okay, Yeah, so there

721
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: you go.

722
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: It's random, isn't it. I that's what I gain that

723
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: I say to people. If I can get up in

724
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: front of people, honestly, you can't do anything.

725
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, before this, like it's the biggest fear in

726
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: the world, you know, publicly it was my biggest really, yeah,

727
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: one hundred percent.

728
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: Even It's funny, even when I first became a nurse

729
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: and I got my first job at Role Prince Alfred

730
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: Hospital in Sydney, and we had to do handover and

731
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: you know, you go into the room and your hand

732
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: over to the next shift. Yes, and you'd have to

733
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: go through your patience. I hated that because everyone would

734
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: look at you, you know, so yeah, I did not

735
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: like attention.

736
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: So what what made you want to do it?

737
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: Was it just like, okay, well we've everyone loves is

738
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: so inspired by this story of.

739
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Speaker 3: No Actually Bradley Trevor Grief, who wrote who's the author

740
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: of our books? Yes, he encouraged me to do it.

741
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: Really, yes, and just like you got Sam, Yeah you

742
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: got to tell you a story and yes.

743
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: So I remember the first ever talk I did ask

744
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: going to camp, I'm going to be sick. I'm going

745
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: to be sicking. I fully thought, asking.

746
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: So nervous, like it's sweaty if I'm too.

747
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it gets sweaty. I think my heart

748
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: like racis and I'm looking. I always look at the time. Okay,

749
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 3: how many minutes? How many minutes until we have to

750
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: go on?

751
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: Just go quick? When you're up there, though, once you.

752
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 3: Get into it, it's okay, yes, and then Cam. I

753
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: can see Cam sometimes at the back and he'll be

754
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: doing this hand motion of slow down.

755
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Producer.

756
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: And but then sometimes I'll finished, you go. You spoke

757
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: way too fus. I was like sorry, But then I say, well,

758
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: I'd love to see you get up there and you

759
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: do it exactly to.

760
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: The table exactly. So with the public speaking, what like

761
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: what I if we.

762
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: Look down in a little into the there're more books.

763
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: What's your plan. Oh, I don't think they'll mate. You

764
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: never know, You're.

765
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: Sure, you never know, but like, man, I don't know

766
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: what we're going to talk about. Yeah, we'll just keep

767
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: doing the talk, you know, public speaking. And I think

768
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: the one thing that I've actually really loved that that

769
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 3: our books and the movie have actually helped people. So

770
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: that's what I love most about it.

771
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: And I feel like a kid could watch that and

772
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: gain something so much from one thousand and then the

773
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: beautiful imagery as well, Like yes, with the book like this,

774
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: I do feel like you're demo, Like it's wide your reach.

775
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

776
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: You know, it's not just specifically spinal cord injury is everyone, and.

777
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: It's also I think like part of living and human

778
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: experience is suffering, Like unfortunately we go through uncomfortable things

779
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: and seeing that it's it's okay to feel shit, and

780
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: it's okay to feel grief, and it's okay to sit

781
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: in the sadness for a bit and knowing that that's

782
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: part of an uncomfortable.

783
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Thing that human beings experience, true.

784
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: Right, and making it make like validating that feeling a

785
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: weird kind of is bizarrely hopeful, like it brings hope

786
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: to know that it's okay to feel christ.

787
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: I think, so don't reckon, no I do.

788
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I've received like heaps and messages of all

789
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: around the world, and I think it's so nice. It's

790
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: so nice to know that maybe you can help just

791
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: even a few people, just give them a bit of hope. Yes,

792
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 3: you know, like actually there's this There was this kid

793
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: in w in Western Australia. I hope he doesn't mind

794
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: me saying. His name is Max and he's only sixteen,

795
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: and he reached out to me on Instagram and he

796
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: was an active kid and he used to surf and

797
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: then he's like, I really want to get into the

798
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: surfing and I'm like, hell yeah, Max, like and then

799
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: it was so funny like he was getting a board

800
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: shaped and I was kind of in touch with his shaper,

801
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: going you know, maybe he tried this or that, And

802
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: you know, I have a handle at the front fins

803
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: on the top to keep my legs on and then

804
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: I said to Max, there's a competition in August at

805
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: Import Macquarie. She'd give it a go, train it on

806
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: the team and it came out so stoked. It was

807
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: so nice to see to finally meet Max in person,

808
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: and he was so he's so frothen he was.

809
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: Just so pup. Yeah yeah, and you know.

810
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: And now he's just surfing heaps and I just things

811
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: like that. I'm like, that's cool.

812
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

813
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: It just kind of encourages people, like it's it is

814
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: it it's a shitty situation to kind of be in.

815
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: But if you have like just a glimmer of hope

816
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: or just something.

817
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: To look forward to, yeah, yeah that can be Would

818
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: you say that's your purpose, like to bring a bit

819
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: of hope.

820
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: I think so in a roundabout way.

821
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

822
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

823
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm not like, you know, I'm not like one of

824
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: those disability advocate. No, I'm like, uh no, but yeah,

825
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: if I can help someone, like, that's cool.

826
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: But you're doing a lot of things that bring home,

827
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: like the surfing, being in nature.

828
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: You're likes like I used to we.

829
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: Had a black lab and we'd always take it to

830
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: our grandparents Reere and I don't know how to say

831
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: it like an age care facility, right, And the moment

832
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: we're walking.

833
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: With Bobby dog, everyone would go crazy.

834
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: No one would care about us. We were choppedli we

835
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: left Bobby. Oh my goodness, the joy that this dog bought.

836
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: And I said that this is amazing. It's like it's

837
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: a good dog. And I like to see the.

838
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: Power animals have our heart rates and calming us down.

839
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: And I think, I think I've heard you talk about

840
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: it is like all the attention went from being on

841
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: you to hang over wee, we've got penguin to little girl.

842
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: I loved that, I know, because everyone would come up like,

843
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: you know, when I first got home, you know, they were, oh,

844
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: you know, give that pity look, and you know, I know,

845
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: it's like how are you and all that, and I

846
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 3: had nothing to say because I literally wasn't doing anything

847
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 3: at that time. And then when we did find Penguin, Yeah,

848
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: now I could care less about me that everyone was

849
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 3: focused went to Penguin.

850
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, And I think also.

851
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: Like your own, like it pulls you out of your own,

852
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: especially if you're in sadness. Animals are so present in

853
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: the moment.

854
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: It's so true, right, yeah, because you do. I stop

855
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: thinking about myself because you're like.

856
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: I've got this little I've got this little bird exactly,

857
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: this little.

858
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: Cheky things stealing my tea bag.

859
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and you've kind of put all your

860
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: energy into them, especially when they're like they're young, they're

861
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: so vulnerable and they need your attention.

862
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: So we're very proud animals and looking after do you know.

863
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: I was getting my head down this morning. I was

864
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: telling the girls and their solon that I was seeing

865
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: you today, and they said, oh, you've got to look

866
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: up these wildlife twins down the road. They apparently some

867
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: of their magpies were used on the film set.

868
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh right, they rehabilitate Maggie's Oh classic. I had no idea.

869
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you might know more than me.

870
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, the bird trainer is from up here, yes.

871
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: Well maybe that. Yeah, I don't know. But I was like,

872
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: weish small world, and then I.

873
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: Ended up looking at the rehabilitate snakes and all this.

874
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: Some people are just really cool human beings.

875
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: Right, I agree, that's very cool.

876
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: Right, Oh my godness, I could talk to you all

877
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: day long. I know, I get to see you speak

878
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: tomorrow and I'm so excited about it. But for the

879
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: people here listening today, what's your takeaway?

880
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Is it just like, find something you love and go

881
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: after it.

882
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: Yes, my takeaway would probably be don't put your dreams

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Speaker 3: on hold. I think if you want, yeah, like it,

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Speaker 3: make them happen today because you don't know what tomorrow

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Speaker 3: will bring.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing I am.

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Speaker 3: Actually thankful for. It is the fact that, like I said,

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Speaker 3: if I wanted to do something, then I did it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you don't want to have regrets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm so glad I'm not like going.

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Speaker 3: Oh I wish I'd been to Africa. I wish I'd

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Speaker 3: done this night. So yeah, So that's why I say,

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Speaker 3: if you want to do.

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Speaker 1: It, don't put your dreams on hold. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Oh that resonates with me so much. Thank you so much, Sam.

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Speaker 3: Bloomy, Thanks Lola for having me.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch you talk tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: No pressure, I've got to get up.

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Speaker 2: There three times, are you kid? We're both speaking. This

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Speaker 2: is a beautiful and pilo which I.

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Speaker 1: Have to say thank you to you because without it

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have met you hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're very lucky.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Legend.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.

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Speaker 2: Guests, and let's continue the conversation on Instagram.

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