WEBVTT - How to get Jana Pittman's winning mindset 🧠 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.600 Hey guys, welcome to the very first episode of The WOODLFE. 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.080 I'm Sam Wood, and the reason I was so excited 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:12.120 about creating and launching The Wood Life really comes down 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:13.480 to one simple thing, and that is. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.040 To help as many people as possible. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.079 And we really want this to be a community. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:19.279 Experience, you know. 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.319 We want the questions to come from real people in 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:23.799 real time and for them to get real answers and 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.120 to cut through all the BS that's out there when there's. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:26.680 Just so much of it. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.320 So I really I felt like it was my responsibility 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.800 as there's so much misinformation out there. But I also 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.519 think it's just a brilliant extension to everything I've done 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:36.840 in the fitness industry to date. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:38.760 And I really felt this is going to be the 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:39.760 exciting next chapter. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.360 So what have I got in store for you? Well, 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.800 we are going to tackle one of my pet peeves 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.519 and that is fitness fads. These things that are designed 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.320 purely to make money. They have no intent to help 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.279 you whatsoever. And I really feel it's something we need 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.800 to address because I keep getting questions just like this. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.000 I was just wondering what you thought about hot yoga. 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.920 I want to know if waist trainers actually work. I 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.520 was just curious about your thoughts on paloton. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:07.400 We're going to be having a look at the fads 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.200 that are worth trying, because some of them definitely are 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.160 worth trying, but we're also going to make sure you 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.319 know which ones to steer well clear of. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.440 But first up, we're going. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.800 To have one of Austrai's most impressive people on the show. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.560 She's been a summer and Winter Olympian, she soon to 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:25.240 be a mother of six people. Oh my god, she's 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.520 also a doctor. It's none other than the incredible Yana 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.480 Pittman and I can't wait for her to give us 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.720 some tips on how to hit those very big goals 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:59.280 and stay motivated. That's next on the Woodline. Really excited 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:04.120 to chat to our guest now, which is none other 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:10.440 than the incredible athlete duel olympian across Winter and Summer 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:15.560 Olympics Supermum Janna Pittman. Welcome to the wood Life, and 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:16.880 thank you so much for joining us. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:18.320 Oh thanks, Sam, that was a lovely intro. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:23.960 I am genuinely inspired by you, and it's interesting I 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.720 thought back to when I first was thinking of you 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:32.720 and you were famous for your incredible athletics career, and 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.240 you know you're a fairly polarizing figureback then, and it 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.120 never seemed to wavery you. You know, you were so 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.160 tough and determined, and I'm sure you had your moments 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.320 behind closed doors. But of course, you know, I always 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.600 used to think, God, this woman is just as tough 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.640 as nails. And I think, like so much of Australia, 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.919 we all saw that and fell in love with you 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.240 and had so much admiration for you in the recent 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.359 series of sas where you were vulnerable and raw and 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:05.919 incredible and also just a powerhouse. And you know I've 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.560 read before that you said your father was sort of 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:13.040 the inspiration or the driving force perhaps behind this motivating 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.600 mindset that you have. But can you share a little 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.160 bit more, perhaps to our listeners that are thinking, God, 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.600 I wish I had just five percent of Janna's mindset 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.560 and perhaps I'd be kicking a bit more ass. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:24.200 I like it, Sam. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.160 Look, yes, I think I have to preface that by 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.800 saying that my resilience and my mindset has changed and 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.679 wavered over the years. I am absolutely human and I've 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.000 had multiple times where I struggled to get out of 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.720 bed in the morning just because I've taken on too 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.360 much or I've lost faith in myself. So I think 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.960 for me, yes, my father was an absolute role model 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.160 for me in life. He was a gunner right from 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.040 the beginning. You know, he always worked hard. He worked 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.120 Christmas Day, for example, We regularly not even have a 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.520 Christmas lunch with him because the guy was a builder 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.760 out on the building side and he would be actually 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.240 constructing houses, and he was just so focused on success. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.320 And I think in some ways it's a positive and 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.360 a negative sam because I think you grow up with 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.440 the idea of what you want to achieve in your life, 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.560 and then sometimes when you fall short of that, it 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.120 can be quite debilitating. So for me, the greatest I think, 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:12.960 the most success I've had in my career has actually 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.160 been after athletics, So sport was great. I think a 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.080 lot of that comes back to genetics and luck, but 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.000 it's the things I've pursued subsequently, you know, trying to 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.760 be a doctor, having babies by myself through sperm donation 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.400 at one point, and then obviously now clocking over to 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.320 six kids this year will be an extraordinary challenge. But 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.080 they come about because many years ago I had to 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.919 actually stop and look at my mindset and realize that 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.760 it was offskew, and a lot of that negative media 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.960 you're talking about and some of the things that I'd 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.560 done wrong in my life, I think really humbled me 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.640 to realize I needed to find some self acceptance and 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.839 once I found that, I was able to grow from that. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.560 So we often I do a lot of public speaking 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.560 these days, and we talk about growth mindsets and things 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.000 like that. But for me, it was actually breaking down 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.720 who I was as a person and rebuilding from there, 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.599 accepting that some of the things that other people don't 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.000 like are actually my strengths and the reason why I'm successful. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.560 So for those people out there who might be thinking, Wow, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.160 she's taken on the world, and you know, I can't 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.240 be her because she does all these amazing things, it's 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.960 it was actually realizing that I love being busy, accepting 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.359 that I'm not always around with family and kids, and 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.440 being comfortable with that, but also accepting that I'm going 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.080 to fail. And it's almost like once you once you 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.680 get over that fact and you realize it's going to 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.960 happen whether you like it or not, you then don't 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.520 get as fixated on those results. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.240 Yeah, I love that. I love that. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.200 I think I think that's something that will relate to 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.839 so many of our listeners. I'd love you to share 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.760 perhaps your thoughts on goal setting. You know, I don't 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.280 want people to listen to you, and I love that 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:43.599 you said that before. I don't want her to be 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.880 listening to you and say, well, I'm not necessarily trying 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.440 to do all of these things at Yana is doing 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:48.520 so known and this relates to me. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.600 I want if they're trying to run a five k 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:51.720 or they're trying. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.080 To lose five kilos, or they've tried and failed before, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:56.920 but they're wanting to get back on the horse, and 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:57.840 you know, must up. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.360 That courage and must trap that motivation. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.560 What are your hips from either a goal setting or 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.440 motivation perspective that you think can help people the most. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.599 Well, I reckon we should debate this one a little bit, 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.919 because I'm sure you've got lots of great ideas around this. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.479 And it's funny because if I put the athlete hat 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.479 on so for many years and so many of the 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.560 young athletes out there, or anyone, as you say, with 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.560 a five kilo goal or whatever it is that they're 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.560 trying to pursue. In life often gets so fixated. I 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.200 think you mentioned that a little bit before too with 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.039 the blinkers on when I was a younger athlete. But 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.360 you get so strongly fixated on a goal that therefore, 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.840 when things go astray, you have the tendency to fall 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.560 off the wagon and maybe you know, eat that mass 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.960 bar rather than sticking to the goal of little bits 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.240 incremental you know, changes make the difference. So I makes 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.920 it completely different from the average person when it comes 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.200 to goal setting. I am someone who believes in having 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.119 five or six goals all at once, and I figure, 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:48.919 if one of them fails, I'll just lean on the 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.120 next one. So it's that whole one door closes, the 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.159 next one open. So that's actually how I've got through 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.960 all the failures in my life, failed marriages, miscarriages, lost 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.680 the Olympics, all that kind of stuff, because I always 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.560 had a concurrent love running alongside my main goal. And 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.360 so I would simply and maybe this is a skill 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.800 I don't know, I would just simply skip focus. So 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.240 I change from focus on sport to focus on medicine, 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:11.960 or if medicine is not going too well, and I'm 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.160 being yelled at by the bosses at work focus on 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.160 the children and a goal we have there. So I 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.040 think it's it does make a busy life, but I 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.880 think just throwing yourself into multiple eggs, you know, having 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.160 multiple eggs in one basket, which a lot of people 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.920 who say goal setting is not a good thing. They 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.000 say you have to be focused and committed to that 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.760 one goal. Well I tell them, well, I don't agree 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.000 with you. So what do you think? Are you a single, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.280 sole focused goal setter or a let's have multiple balls 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.040 in the wagon and protect yourself a little bit. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.920 I'm okay with having one or two horses in the race, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.880 but I'm probably I like things to stay simple. From 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.440 a process perspective, I think people complicate things, not necessarily 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.800 with having too many goals, but having too many processes 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.800 for them to focus on at once, and therefore getting 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.880 a little bit overwhelmed or lost along the way. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:58.960 That I'm a big believer with that. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:00.480 Yeah, that makes sense, but. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.040 I'm going to be frank with you, I've never heard 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.160 that theory before. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.960 That's quite that's a revelation. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.880 No, it is, And I'm giving myself sixty seconds to 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.840 digest it and actually get my head around it, because 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:18.320 what a fascinating outlook. And a lot of people I 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.120 agree with you would argue if you're spreading yourself too 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.440 thin and you've got too many balls in the air 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.560 at once, that's going to be it's going to be 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:30.880 detrimental to any of them potentially landing. But someone like you, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.079 who's obviously. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.160 That's just something we've been told. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.400 Yeah it is, yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:36.880 Don't think it's just me, snam I reckon. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.520 It's something we've been grown up and told that don't 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.599 take on too much. Now I'm not saying take on 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.800 killer goals five or six of them at one time, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.360 but I just feel like I need my emotional energy 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.320 to shift in different areas. So I can sit down 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.480 for four or five hours and study, but then I 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.200 need to shift to my fitness goal, and then I 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.080 need to shift to my parental goal, because if I 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.560 didn't have areas, it's almost like you're rebooting your system 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.840 every time you change to the next to the next goal. 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.120 But the biggest time is when it's protective, when something fails. 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.199 So it's funny because my vivid memory of the twenty 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.480 fourteen qualifications for the Winter Olympic Games, and I'd put 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.120 my total ass on the line by announcing to the public, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.080 you know that I wanted to be the first you know, 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.080 female summer Winter Olympian double. And it came down to 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.280 this one race. I had to push off the top 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.320 of this ice hill and if I didn't push, well, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.480 that was it. I could go home with tail between 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.880 my legs. And I remember getting so nervous standing at 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.160 the top, going I can't do this, I can't do this. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.319 What if I fail? What if I bugger it? 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.240 Da all that, you know, that little mental chatter that 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.080 can happen in anybody's life. And then I had that 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.120 split moment where I said, but it doesn't matter because 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:38.839 you're in second year of medical school, so you'll go 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.000 home and become a doctor. And I thought, oh yeah, sweet, 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:43.880 and all the nerves just flew out of the way 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.400 because I realized it's not my only goal. It's a huge, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.720 important thing that I want to achieve, but it's not 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.360 the end of the world. So yeah, you know, I 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.160 think that mentality has really helped when you're trying to 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.040 achieve things that other people say might be impossible. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.520 The perspective from which I love it is often working 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:05.240 with people who who are focused on a body goal. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.280 They tend to get so fixated on that that they 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.440 think that their body defines them and they think that 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.319 you know their weight on the scales or how they 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.920 feel about themselves, you know, and they forget that they're 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.400 this beautiful person with a beautiful soul and their intelligent 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.199 and a wonderful mother and a great friend and all 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.240 these other things, you know. I see it with mums 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:26.800 a lot, where their whole you know, self worth in 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.320 their own eyes is. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.480 You know, fixed by the mirror or the weight scale. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.040 Exactly exactly, and they are so hard on themselves and 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.360 often neglect to give themselves any credit at all or 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.440 definitely nowhere near as much as they should in all 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.640 these other beautiful areas of their life. And so I 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.760 think I love how diverse they are too. I think, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.480 you know, if you're having similar goals or huge goals 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.720 in similar areas, it could be quite difficult to achieve 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.400 them all. But if you're spreading yourself out and you're 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.760 looking at all these other areas, I think that could 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.880 be a really healthy thing. And it's and I go 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.400 back to the athletes. It's interesting when you talk to 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.480 athletes to have other things going in in their life, 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.480 they tend to be able to cope with challenges better. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.600 They tend to be able to switch off better. You know, 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.160 whether they're studying, or whether they're got a business on 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.520 the side, or whatever it might be, they tend to 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.640 find that's a really good escape for them, where you know, 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.360 the bubble of sport and social media and all of 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.200 the stuff that comes with being an elite athlete these days. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.280 Can be pretty overwhelming and all consuming. So I absolutely 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:30.680 love that. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.520 So what about that's goal setting And that's really sort 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.080 of thrown me, But I love that it's thrown me 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.760 because perspective and I've never heard before, and I'm here 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.480 to learn as we go along. What about from a 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:47.600 motivation mindset perspective? Because it strikes me and even talking 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.559 to you today for the first time, there's a softness 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:55.160 to you that perhaps I didn't necessarily know, which I love, 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.680 but you seem to be this person who you know 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:04.000 I can't isn't in your vocabulary? Where does that come from? 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:08.000 And if there are people out there who that's not 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.400 just in their vocabulary, it's probably the most. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.080 Often term that they use. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.440 How do they get that out of their system? 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.080 And what's your advice to them. 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.160 I've got a few things yet. Firstly, for the first 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.200 time I reckon in my life. Recently, I've been sitting 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.960 there going, I don't know how I'm going to cope. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:24.480 So that's nice, And. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.079 It was vivid the other day I was lying on 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.000 the bed. I'm not coping with this twin pregnancy as 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.800 well as I hope. So my superhuman motherhood powers are 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.199 debilitating at times, and I'm in eight tired fatigue with 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.160 saw legs and a saw tummy and thinking how on 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.200 earth am I going to cope with twins and an 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.440 eighteen month old and my kids and my career and 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.280 realizing that something's got to give. So I am a 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.000 big believer that you can have it all. You just 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.120 can't have it all the time at the same time. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.840 So it's prioritizing what things are most important. So where 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.240 are you going to throw your motivation? And certainly I 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.560 do agree with you. The word I can't is something 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.880 I've worked very strongly since I was a young person 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.680 to not have as part of my vocabulary. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.640 And it's funny you say that because. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.600 My children say I can't, And the first thing I 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.200 said to them is, sweety, let's change that I can 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.200 do this, but I need mummies help, or I can 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.520 do this. And we'd have that conversation two or three 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.040 times a day. So it's something I've had ingrained in 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:15.880 me as a young person for a very long time, 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:17.400 and I do it with my children now. So I 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.880 guess for your listeners, it is something you can encourage 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.400 in your children to change that mindset. Before the age 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.520 of seven, they say, is when you can really put 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.800 those inroads to sort of form those neural patterns in 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.920 the brain. But one how I actually learned about it, 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:31.920 because it wasn't something my mum and dad taught me, 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.599 was when I was in my early twenties, I was 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.040 working with this fantastic coach that talked about how your 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.760 brain is like a filing cabinet and whatever you saw 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.319 at the front of it is the thing you draw 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:40.760 out first. 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.280 You know, whatever at the front drawer is the thing 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:43.000 you find first. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.560 So when you have those conversations I can't or i'm 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.600 fat today, or I'm not able to cope with this. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.560 If you keep reiterating that to yourself. It's going to 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.040 be the file that you take out every time you're 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.760 faced with any challenge. So I guess we retrain that. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.800 So I wore a little elastic band for about a year, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.240 and every time I said I can't or you know, 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.079 I'm going to fail at this, I would actually snap 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:05.680 that elastic band on my wrist and it would have 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.760 like a little bit I know it's ridiculous conditioning, but 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.400 it would short circuit that process in my brain and 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.840 I would try then to automatically replace it with something positive. 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:17.920 I will do this. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.800 I will try to do this the sort of the 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.240 reverse of my current feeling, and to be honest, Sam, 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.280 over time it just became natural, so you know that 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.360 though process is always still there. And don't get me 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.560 wrong on SAS Australia, there were multiple times where I'm like, 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.400 oh my god, I can't do that, but then it 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:34.120 wasn't an option. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:34.960 I just did. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.920 So it's almost it's a reprogramming and a retraining to 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.680 make you believe that nothing that's important will come easily, 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.880 but that you're just sabotaging yourself if you don't give 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:45.240 it a shot. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.040 I love that nothing that's important will come easily. And 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.840 I always say to my twenty eight brigade on my 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.120 fitness program, whether you say you can or you. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:55.520 Can't, you are right, that's correct. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:59.160 And I think manifesting the positive rather than manifesting the 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:04.080 negative become just paramount to people's mindset and attitude and success. 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.160 What would your most succinct powerful note to leave our 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:08.680 listeners be. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.200 I don't know if I have an answer to that 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:19.400 is that's impossible. No, I think there's a lot of 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.120 mechanisms on how to do it. But I think the 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:22.760 number one thing we need to strive for in life 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.160 is self acceptance. So trying to find what your strengths 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.800 and weaknesses are outside of what other people think your 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.280 strengthens weaknesses are will go a long long way to 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.360 your goal setting and your ability to achieve what you 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:34.880 really really want and love in life. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.560 What a beautiful spot to finish on. I love that. 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.000 Yeah, I could honestly chat to you, probably for the 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.960 next two hours, but I feel like I'd be taking 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.240 such a valuable amount of time off the busiest woman 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.960 in Australia that I probably shouldn't do that, but I 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.800 just wanted to sincerely, thank you so so much. I 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.120 love that you are adopting these things not only to 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:56.920 your own life, but your children's. I have a two 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.560 year old and a four year old. I also have 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:03.960 a pregnant wife who I'm continually okay, okay, but she's 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.200 feeling pretty crappy at the moment, and I'm always saying 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.280 it's okay, you know, don't feel like you need to 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.760 conquer the world. Now, is not the time for you 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:12.520 to be trying to conquer the world to a human. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.560 And she's, you know, just obviously with a public profile, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.280 she always feels like she needs to be strong and 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.600 glamorous and you know, all that kind of stuff, you know, 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:21.200 and it's like. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.560 Don't worry about that crap. The more real and raw 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:24.640 you are that I. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.040 Think, the more I'll resonate with you. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:30.600 Exactly exactly, So thank you so so much. It was, Yeah, 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:35.040 I think just those powerful tips on mindset, motivation, goal 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.760 setting absolutely incredible. I knew I would be inspired, but 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.240 you've thrown me a real curve ball and given me 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:42.280 something really. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:42.960 Powerful to think about. 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.920 How is that tip about the elastic band and flicking 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.080 it every time that you think to yourself, I can't 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.040 I'd actually love to know what you think about that. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:51.680 Do you think it's too extremely do you think it's 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.880 a really good thing that you could try to get 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.200 that out of your vocabulary forever. Make sure if you've 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.120 got your thoughts, to send them through in the link 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:04.520 in the show notes. Now it's time for hate it 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.360 or rate it. Now. I think we would all agree 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.439 that it's never been a busier market. And I use 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.159 the term market because it's often a marketing spin of 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.920 pills and potions and books and formulas and whatever it 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.160 might be to help people lose weight. Now you look 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.960 at that, and then on the other hand, you look 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.000 at Western society and we've never been fatter. So little 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.000 segment called hate or rate where we uncover the good 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.760 ones and the bad ones. We're going to be brutally honest. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.000 Keep in mind, this is just my opinion, but it 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.320 makes my blood well sometimes when I see these things 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.199 that are promoted as good for you and they're clearly not. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.160 And I often think there are some that sneak under 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.399 the radar that are actually a little hidden gems that 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:42.920 more people should know about. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:49.080