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Speaker 1: the period underwear that gives you better support, better protection,

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Speaker 1: are Amy Kate and Sophie Torber. We're identical triplets, but

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for joining us for our special

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Speaker 1: episode all about periods Now. I've been so excited to

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Speaker 1: talk about this all day, and it seems like you

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Speaker 1: guys are really excited to hear about it because we

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Speaker 1: had such a good response on our Facebook and Instagram

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Speaker 1: when we told you guys about this episode. I think

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Speaker 1: of them echoed the questions I have for Maria, so

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear her get into the topic

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Speaker 1: a little bit more well.

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Speaker 3: We will be.

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Speaker 1: Joined by Maria Harpers shortly, and she's from Natural Health Medicine.

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Speaker 1: She's a qualified nutritionist and natural path so she'll be

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Speaker 1: able to give some great insight to some of your questions.

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Speaker 1: But we thought we'd start by talking about our own

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Speaker 1: sort of first time periods because we really want to

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Speaker 1: break the stigma, because it's crazy. We were all discussing

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Speaker 1: earlier that when we all first got our periods, it

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Speaker 3: Topic to talk about.

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Speaker 1: No one spoke about it, even though you knew everyone

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Speaker 1: at school was going through the same thing. It was

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Speaker 1: this weird thing where like all your mums knew you

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Speaker 1: I think, well, it was somewhat embarrassing. Part of you

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Speaker 1: I can tell you from being the one that seems

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Speaker 1: because even though we did sex air and all that

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Speaker 1: Think that looked like a normal period, like maybe your

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Speaker 1: Well with my period, my first period, I remember I

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Speaker 1: When you do have a sleepover when you're younger and

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Speaker 1: Well, it kind of was traumatic because I was meant

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Speaker 1: I was like so mortified that, to be honestly, she

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Speaker 1: A bit of background info is that Kate and I

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Speaker 3: Like you's were plat very sad.

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Speaker 1: But it was really funny because even in photos, like,

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Speaker 1: And that's probably where the resentment towards you was coming from.

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Speaker 3: It was troubling me.

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Speaker 1: The whole trip, Like you know, when you feel like

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Speaker 3: Such a natural thing.

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us again.

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Speaker 1: we've had so many questions being sent in all about periods,

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Speaker 2: Well, look, for some women, obviously, that just happens very

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Speaker 4: There's actually herbs that we can use to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it is different from women to women, but

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Speaker 1: So, if someone has gotten off the pill and they

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Speaker 2: don't really understand how hormones work in terms of it's

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Speaker 2: about being able to clear estrogen properly, and you know,

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Speaker 2: there's two main things to do that, And we have

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Speaker 2: to have the bowels working well otherwise estrogens get re

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Speaker 2: introduced into the body instead of coming out, you know,

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Speaker 2: with bowel movements, So we've got to have our bows

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Speaker 2: working really well.

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Speaker 4: But it's also.

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Speaker 2: About how well our liver detoxification phases work, particularly phase

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Speaker 2: two has to work really well to help clear the

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Speaker 2: estrogens as well. So you know, it's a bigger picture

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Speaker 2: than just looking at one component of that.

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Speaker 4: And once we get.

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Speaker 2: All of that working really well, then of course we

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Speaker 2: have much better skin.

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Speaker 4: It affects things.

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Speaker 1: And is it sort of a case to case basis

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Speaker 1: in terms of I'm assuming that bad skin can be

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Speaker 1: caused by hormonal imbalances.

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Speaker 3: Or that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: Is that why it's important to go to in naturopaths

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Speaker 1: because everyone is individual?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Like you can you can do some

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Speaker 2: things initially, you know, you know, at.

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Speaker 4: The start and go, okay, let me improve my.

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Speaker 2: Diet, let me reduce processed foods and increase you know,

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Speaker 2: vegetables and things, right, and then you can go, well.

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Speaker 4: What does that give me? Do I get? Has that

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Speaker 4: improved things? Or hasn't it?

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Speaker 2: And then if that hasn't that's when you need more

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Speaker 2: detailed work looking at those underlying biochemical markers because we

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Speaker 2: all have susceptibilities and we don't really know what they are.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes we get an idea of what our

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Speaker 2: susceptibilities are by looking at family history you know, what

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Speaker 2: does mum and dad have, what do grandparents have?

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Speaker 4: Or our siblings.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, people often don't know some of

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Speaker 2: the drivers that are happy that you can't see. So

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Speaker 2: you know, the testing really reveals that, and it's really invaluable.

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Speaker 4: And that's why so much of my practice focuses.

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Speaker 2: Around checking that because the numbers don't lie.

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Speaker 4: And so it also helps us track progress.

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Speaker 2: So then we've got, you know, a couple of things.

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Speaker 4: We've got symptoms to look at, but we've also got

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Speaker 4: the markers that we can see and.

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Speaker 2: Go yet they're going in the right direction, but we

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Speaker 2: still have to go further or actually, no, they're good now,

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Speaker 2: So that's.

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Speaker 4: The benefit of doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, you know, and skin's not just about

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Speaker 2: the hormones. It might just be food intolerances that we've

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Speaker 2: talked about before that might be causing skin issues, abowes

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Speaker 2: not doing what they should be doing.

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Speaker 4: So there's sort of different things there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, Maria answers your questions about

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Speaker 1: what food you should avoid during your period and what

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Speaker 1: she thinks about the Marina.

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Speaker 1: this question came up quite a lot, so we thought

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Speaker 1: we'd ask it, is, why do we put on weight

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Speaker 1: and get bloated around our period?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Sure, Well, it's mainly the hormonal fluctuations that occur at

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Speaker 2: that time with progesterone and estrogen. And it's also we

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Speaker 2: tend to hold a bit of fluid, so there's some

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Speaker 2: fluid retention at that time, and the bleed itself, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's a big exodus of flood that happens at that time.

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Speaker 2: So it's all these things happening that cause us to

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Speaker 2: feel bloated and feel like we're putting on weight. I

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Speaker 2: think it's a lot of fluid retention because once your

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Speaker 2: period comes and that reduces again back to normal or

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Speaker 2: just after.

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Speaker 4: And helping them doing.

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Speaker 2: Things like making sure you're drinking enough water and unprocessed

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Speaker 2: foods at that time really helps.

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Speaker 1: That's really funny because I feel like when a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have their period, they feel like it's an

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Speaker 1: excuse to eat bad food like takeaway chocolate. What are

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Speaker 1: some things that we should be eating to make us

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Speaker 1: feel better during that time?

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, and I think I always wonder whether that's

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Speaker 2: sort of just a cultural norm you know that everybody

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Speaker 2: goes to and yeah, it's easy to get caught in

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Speaker 2: that in that, so really there was you know, there's

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Speaker 2: quite a few studies that show that low fruit and

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Speaker 2: veg intake can negatively affect our period and cause period pain,

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Speaker 2: and fish oil can help as well improve the pain.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: We also give cocuma, which is the active constituent that's

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Speaker 2: in chimrick, which probably most people have heard of, so

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Speaker 2: we can give that in high doses, you know, during

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Speaker 2: the bleed, and that can really help pain.

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Speaker 4: If you're getting a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Pain all the time with your periods consistently, then and

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Speaker 2: you change some of these things.

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Speaker 4: You change the diet and you do add more.

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Speaker 2: Fruit vege, and you lower your process foods, and you

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Speaker 2: take some fish oil at that period, and even some

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Speaker 2: Chinese herbs are shown to really help. If that's not

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Speaker 2: improving things, then you have to sort of think that

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Speaker 2: there might be an underlying issue like endometriosis for instance,

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Speaker 2: and so then that should be followed up and checked.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what one of our listeners asked. She said

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Speaker 1: that she gets intense period pain on the first two

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Speaker 1: days of her period, to the point where she can

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Speaker 1: barely function. Would that be a case of maybe she

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Speaker 1: needs to seek some medical help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, you can do a cup

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Speaker 2: because to diagnose endometriosis you have to have a laparoscopy,

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Speaker 2: which you know, which is quite an invasive operation. So

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Speaker 2: I think the first thing is to change the diet

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Speaker 2: to make sure magnesium levels are good, zinc levels B six,

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Speaker 2: vitamin B six because.

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Speaker 4: They show to really help the hormones.

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Speaker 2: So you make sure those things are good. And then

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Speaker 2: if things are still not improving, then yes, then it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: that needs to be further investigated.

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Speaker 4: And I do that a lot with women.

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Speaker 2: I don't let them continue on with period pain that's

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Speaker 2: not resolving.

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Speaker 4: With normal dietary changes, you know, or might.

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Speaker 2: Be resolving, but it's still very They're very susceptible, you know,

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Speaker 2: the the you know, the minute they're not completely strict

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Speaker 2: with what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it needs further investigations for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I should we shouldn't be tolerating bad period pains.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of on the same lines, because I feel

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Speaker 1: like growing up we have this misconception that periods should

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Speaker 1: be painful. So just how painful should your period actually be?

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Speaker 1: And when is it time to perhaps go and seek

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Speaker 1: help from a naturopath or doctor if the pain is

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Speaker 1: getting too much.

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Speaker 2: I suppose some women will always feel a little bit

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Speaker 2: that their periods going, but we get women to the

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Speaker 2: point where they don't even know they're getting a period.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I think if you're not getting regular, painless periods, that

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Speaker 2: it requires investigations. It really does, and especially you know

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Speaker 2: you want to pick things up early if later on

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Speaker 2: down the track you want to have kids. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's good to sort of know some of these things

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Speaker 2: that might be going on, because that can really save.

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Speaker 4: Years and years of heartache, because.

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Speaker 2: Investigations for infertility take a long time. You know, first

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Speaker 2: they you know you're trying for a while, for a

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Speaker 2: year or so. You know, you might change diet and

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Speaker 2: you need to give that some time, and then you

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Speaker 2: might change other things. So a lot of times those

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Speaker 2: more invasive investigations aren't down done till a lot of

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Speaker 2: time has passed. So I think using your period and

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Speaker 2: kind of going, yeah, we want that to be regular

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Speaker 2: and normal and painless is a good start. And I

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Speaker 2: think starting with you know, obvious or bias because on

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Speaker 2: an atribrat But you know, I think we're really good

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Speaker 2: people to start with because what the changes that we

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Speaker 2: make help on so many levels.

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Speaker 4: They help skin, they help mood, they help.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're looking at the body holistically and we're

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Speaker 2: tidying things up.

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Speaker 4: They help energy levels. So I think it's a really

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Speaker 4: good place to start.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's been a lot of talk about, I suppose

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Speaker 1: the disadvantages of using the pill, and a few of

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Speaker 1: our listeners have said that they have the Marina implant

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Speaker 1: but they're finding One of our listeners said she's had

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Speaker 1: it for seven months, but she still gets two heavy

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Speaker 1: periods a month.

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Speaker 3: Is that normal?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so two heavy periods a month is No,

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Speaker 2: that's not normal, And I would be definitely going back

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Speaker 2: to the adopt of the endocrinologist or gynecologist to see,

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Speaker 2: you know, what's going on there, because you know, the

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Speaker 2: marina secretes progesterone and so that basically balances estrogen. So

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Speaker 2: to be getting too heavy periods, I would say is

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Speaker 2: quite unusual and needs further investigation for sure.

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Speaker 1: Would you say that the Marina implant is a better

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Speaker 1: alternative to the pill in your opinion.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's progesterone and it's more localized. So I

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Speaker 2: think I'm not a fan of any hormonal intervention because

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Speaker 2: it's changing what.

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Speaker 4: The body's doing.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, we have to be realistic, don't we.

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Speaker 2: You know, we want as women, we want to do

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Speaker 2: we still want to be comfortable, and we still.

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Speaker 4: Want to have good life and you know, and have good.

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Speaker 2: Contraception methods and things. So would I say it's not

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Speaker 2: I don't think the marine if I might be wrong,

651
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Speaker 2: but I don't think it's you recommended as for younger

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Speaker 2: women as often as the pill is, And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if that's just we have to investigate that further.

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Speaker 4: Why that is. I know there's the many pill that is.

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Speaker 2: Only progester own as well, but we're not sure that

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Speaker 2: the many pill does.

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Speaker 4: All the jobs that a normal pill does.

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Speaker 2: So you know, that's you've got to check with doctors

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Speaker 2: around that. But certainly I think it's it's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's the estrogen that does probably does more

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Speaker 2: of the has more of the side effects, but it's

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Speaker 2: also the estrogen that helps in certain areas that you know,

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Speaker 2: that's why women are going on it. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a bit of a catch twenty two I think. Yeah,

665
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Speaker 2: definitely that woman getting too heavy periods is knowing those

666
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: sorts of things aren't normal.

667
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: Missing periods is not normal.

668
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: Always encourage women to make sure, even if they're on

669
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: the pill, to be getting those bleeds. It's what the

670
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: body is designed to be doing. Yeah, so when you're not.

671
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: I've got a lot of young women that think it's

672
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: okay not to that they haven't gotten.

673
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: A period for a while just naturally like they start

674
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: losing their period. But that's not that's definitely a problem,

675
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: and it's the body is under a lot of stress

676
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have enough resources. So you know, all

677
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: those things need investigating if the periods aren't normal.

678
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: So kind of along the same lines, one of our

679
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: listeners says that her period has been missing for six months.

680
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: What are some things that she can try and do

681
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: to get her period back?

682
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, yeah, which is what we're saying.

683
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: So yes, definitely, if you're missing for six months, the

684
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: first couple of things to check is has any activity

685
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: changed in terms of exercise? Okay, so it's a frequent

686
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: thing that can happen to athletes because they're over exercising,

687
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: so the body's under more stress and it's.

688
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: Not and so they lose the period.

689
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: So the first thing is to look at those things,

690
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: so more nutrients might be required, particularly or if they're

691
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: losing a lot of weight, so they're going underweight. So

692
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: then you know, women that are anorexic, so that's the

693
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: extreme of that, lose their period. So checking those things

694
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: to make sure, you know, healthy BMI is maintained, so

695
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: healthy weight is maintained. Also making sure that there's not

696
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: been a significant drop in protein or good fats and

697
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: essential fats.

698
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: Because that will also.

699
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: You know, stop a period, so you know, the body

700
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: just goes we don't need to do that job.

701
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: We need these resources.

702
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: And nutrients for other things, so we'll just stop the period.

703
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: And that's that's literally what happens. So I think checking

704
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: those things is the first thing to see because normally

705
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: that's where the problems are, which is a bit different

706
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: right to heavy, painful periods where we're going, really we

707
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: want a high vegetable intake and probably a lower fat

708
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: intake because there's a lot of bad fats in processed

709
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: foods and you know whereas for yeah, amen arehea where

710
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: the periods missing is kind of a different thing that

711
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: we're looking at.

712
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: Someone has also asked, is blood clotting and dizziness normal

713
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: or what does that mean when you get that when

714
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: you have your period?

715
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so again, I think blood plotting sort of

716
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: has we have to look, you know, is that an

717
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: ongoing issue? Then we might want to check how well

718
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: the body is detoxifer kate detoxifying.

719
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 4: We can we use herbs that.

720
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 2: Can really help change that, but we always start with diet, right,

721
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: because even with herbs, we don't want to just be

722
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: reliant on those. But some women are more susceptible to this,

723
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: so changing diet can really help that and.

724
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 4: Herbs.

725
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: Now with dizziness and headaches, the likely culprit there, which

726
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: is so common and women don't realize, is when we

727
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: have a bleed, we're losing iron, right, and so if

728
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: we've got a female, you know, females that are women

729
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: that are already borderline low in iron, what happens is

730
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: they get their period and from them to you know,

731
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: at least a week after the bleed, there's been such

732
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: a loss in iron that iron and even anemia for

733
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: some women they go into causes headaches, dizziness, fatigue, So.

734
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: That's where the problems are.

735
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: And it's not unusual when I'm checking people's iron levels

736
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: to want to know where in the cycle they are,

737
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: because if iron is checked just before the period, that's

738
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: the highest.

739
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: Amount of iron a woman's going to have, and if.

740
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: It's checked just after the bleed, that's the lowest amount

741
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: of iron a woman's going to have. And comparing those

742
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: so that we know how to improve that ongoing lead

743
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: is really important because then we sort of go, well,

744
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: you might not need iron during the month, but you

745
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: just might need it when you're having your bleed, okay,

746
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: or you might need to have.

747
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: More red meat during that during you know, the bleed.

748
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 2: So they're really good strategies and it does resolve the dizziness, headaches,

749
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: and fatigue.

750
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: That's great.

751
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: If you're a vegetarian, would you say that taking a

752
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: sort of either a liquid iron supplement or a tablet

753
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: would be a good idea as well if you are

754
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: getting a bit dizzy around your period.

755
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: Yes, So for vegans and vegetarians, I like to even

756
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 4: though we know, yes, obviously red meat has got.

757
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: The highest source of iron and they're not eating that.

758
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: I still like to check the individual because some women,

759
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: you know, when I was a vegetarian, vegan, I never

760
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: had a problem with my iron levels, which is you know,

761
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, not as usual. So we

762
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: still want to check the individual to go, is this

763
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: your problem? You know, is this where that's a problem.

764
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: So I do the same checks for vegans and vegetarians.

765
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: But yes, they normally, you know, if they are susceptible,

766
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: yes we get I get them to take iron, so

767
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: they might take im all the way through the month,

768
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: but at the bleed, I get them to double the

769
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: iron that they take. Okay, and then that really helps

770
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: because it's not only it's some iron affects our mood.

771
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: So we can feel quite down and depressed when we're

772
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: low in iron.

773
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's so interesting because I suppose sometimes people

774
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: feel a bit down and depressed when they've got their period,

775
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: so maybe it is just the fact that they're low

776
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: in iron.

777
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

778
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: And that's why I love, you know, I love having

779
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: some of these measures that are really scientifically proven, because

780
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: then it's very easy for us to work.

781
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 4: With and it's not our heads it's kind of going, Oh,

782
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 4: it's just me. I'm just grumpy at that time the month.

783
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: You know, it's nicer to know, well, yeah, my beach,

784
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: my iron's low.

785
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: And isn't it true that we were discussing this yesterday,

786
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: But isn't it true that you're not really meant.

787
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: To experience moodiness?

788
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: You know how people have got oh you know, they

789
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: say they turn into a different persons when they've got

790
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: their period. Is that something that should be sort of

791
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: alarm bells going if that happens to you.

792
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Oh, well, look, I don't not necessarily alarm bells, but

793
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: obviously someone that is susceptible to.

794
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: Mood being up and down. You know, the last thing

795
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 4: that they want is to have a.

796
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 2: Week or even two weeks of every month where their

797
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: mood is even worse. You know, that's not a very

798
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: nice way to live. And you know, for sure you

799
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: want to I think moodiness generally, you know, we want

800
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: to get that buyer can, right, So you're not dealing

801
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: with that on top of your own ability to deal

802
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: with things from a psychological perspective, right, Because there's always

803
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: stresses as long as humans are going to be alive,

804
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: that's going to be happening, So it's.

805
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 4: Nice if that's under control. And yeah, I.

806
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: Think it's things that can be resolved, and it's things

807
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: that we really help people with. And I don't think

808
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: that is addressed medically at all. It's not considered nor

809
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: addressed unless it's the sort of ongoing problem. And you know,

810
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: again I'm biased, but I think diet and lifestyle stuff,

811
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: nutrients and herbs should be the first thing that we're

812
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: looking at to resolve because it just helps us our

813
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: well being overall generally and helps prevent things in the

814
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: future too.

815
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: Are there dangers associated with using tampons and pads because

816
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm assuming they've got chemicals in them.

817
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think there's been links to deaths using

818
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 2: tampons and you know, and you know there's chemicals in there,

819
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: and it's also related to women keeping the tampons in

820
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 2: for too long.

821
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: But you can move to organic cotton tampons, which are better.

822
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 4: You can do things like when.

823
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: You're home, not use tampons, use pads instead, and these

824
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: new eco friendly things that are out now, cups and

825
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: different undecent that can be used.

826
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: I think there's.

827
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: Little strategy you can do so that, yeah, it's it's

828
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: healthier and safer.

829
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: So one listener wanted to know, if she chooses not

830
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: to have kids, is it okay for her to stay

831
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: on the pill until she reaches menopause.

832
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: Well, look, you know you can, of course, you know,

833
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: and doctors and that they'll leave you on the pill forever.

834
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: There's no problem medically with that. I think it goes

835
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: back to looking at the risks and going, well, what

836
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: does my body do when I'm on the pill? Is

837
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: my cortisol affected? Is my copper affected? Is zinc negatively affected?

838
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: Am I prepared to have be susceptible to some of

839
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: these risks that are out there that we talked about before?

840
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: And am I susceptible?

841
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: Because obviously if you're a smoker, and even there was

842
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: it was smokers, people with high pertend, women with hypertension

843
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: which is high blood pressure, and women that get migraines

844
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: with aura have a higher risk of strong from the pill.

845
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: So it's sort of going, yeah, what am I prepared

846
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 2: to do and what am I not prepared to risk?

847
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 4: Is really the call that all.

848
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: Women have to make on that and how might it

849
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: be affecting if women are really, really unwell in lots

850
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: of mood problems, lots of fatigue problems, and they're not

851
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: resolving with some of the first line steps.

852
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: That we do.

853
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: I often ask them to reconsider some of these things,

854
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: and the pills one of them, to go, well, you know,

855
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: should we have a period of time offer just to

856
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: see that there might be something that it's doing that's

857
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: not working for you.

858
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: That's some really good advice. Our last question is is

859
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: period pain linked to stress and anxiety at all? Because

860
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: this listener she said she's had the marina in for

861
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: about a year and she hasn't had any pain, but

862
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: she's had a really stressful week at work and she's

863
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: had the period pain return.

864
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: Okay, well, look, stress might be a trigger.

865
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: I mean, we blame stress for everything, right, because I

866
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: do think it affects a lot of things in the body.

867
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: And we know that, you know, the sympathetic nervous system

868
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: gets affected when we're stressed and our quartersol levels, so

869
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: there is you know, touchy feely things that stress does that.

870
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: We know of, and it does.

871
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: It has been shown that it might trigger prostaglandins, which

872
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: are these are compounds that are involved in sort of

873
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: modulating our inflammatory markers.

874
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 4: They also contribute to the uterine tension.

875
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: And contract contracting and relaxing the smooth muscles, so that

876
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: that's sort of how stress could.

877
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: Be related and could just push you over the edge

878
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 4: to then yeah, then have pain and problems. So yeah,

879
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 4: it's interesting how it works.

880
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh definitely. Well, thank you so much for answering

881
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: all the questions. It's been so insightful, so really appreciate

882
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: your time. If people do want to find out more,

883
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: we'll obviously leave all the links to natural health medicine

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