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Speaker 1: Hello, Katie wall Van three sixty online at Mixed one

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Speaker 2: It is twenty eight minutes after nine o'clock coming your way.

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Speaker 2: Very shortly.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be catching up with the Independent member

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Speaker 1: for our Robin Lamley. But joining me on the line

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Speaker 1: right now is one of our listeners, Christine, who did

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Speaker 1: indeed see what it unfolded yesterday at the CBD Woolworths.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Christine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning Katie, and thank you for talking to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's incredibly important that everybody knows what

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Speaker 1: went on yesterday, Christine. I know that vision's gone about,

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Speaker 1: but tell us what happened.

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Speaker 3: It was about i'd say three thirty four o'clock in

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Speaker 3: the afternoon. In the morning previously to that, early in

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Speaker 3: the morning there was a few people fighting it with

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Speaker 3: chains and what have you. But later in the afternoon,

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Speaker 3: about three thirty or four o'clock, a whole heap of

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Speaker 3: people came in. I'm talking fourteen or so people came

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Speaker 3: in and they had chains and stuff. They jumped the

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Speaker 3: counter at Passages Cafe and thank god that lady wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: They took her knives. They ran amuck through the shopping center.

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Speaker 3: Customers were screaming. They were the chemists there. They shut

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Speaker 3: their doors, they were doing the customers doing the limbo

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Speaker 3: to get into their shop bws. They went in there,

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Speaker 3: got some bottles of wine, started smashing them. The front

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Speaker 3: window is smashed, hasn't been repaired yet. It was absolutely horrendous.

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Speaker 3: They were just running a mark, fighting with each other.

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Speaker 3: They had machetes, as I said, knives waving this big, huge,

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Speaker 3: big knife around. Customers were abs of screaming.

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Speaker 1: It was horrendous, bloody hell, Christine, what were the shoppers doing?

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Speaker 2: What were people doing inside?

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Speaker 3: They were running through their lives. If not, if they

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Speaker 3: weren't running, they were hiding. There was a whole heap

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Speaker 3: of people hiding in the bakery. They were just trying

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Speaker 3: to find a safe place to hide. But to tell

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Speaker 3: you the truth, nothing nowhere was safe. You know that

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Speaker 3: they had I think one or two security guards on.

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Speaker 3: They obviously couldn't do anything, and you can't blame them

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Speaker 3: for not doing anything. They would have gotten after a

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Speaker 3: machete over them. It's just unbelievable. And you know what,

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Speaker 3: this shopping cent is getting worse and worse all the time.

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Speaker 3: But yesterday's incident was horrendous and for visitors in the city,

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Speaker 3: what a joke, Like I sack. Someone come up to

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Speaker 3: me earlier this morning and said to me, I was

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Speaker 3: in here with her with her daughter, her daughter thirteen.

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Speaker 3: She couldn't go to school today. She was absolutely traumatized

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Speaker 3: by what happened yesterday, So you know, and also the

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Speaker 3: staff that worked there, like my.

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Speaker 1: Heart, incredibly frightening. And you know, Christine, I'm there regularly

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Speaker 1: with my kids. You know, I think to myself, what

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Speaker 1: would I do if I was with my kids and

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Speaker 1: they would be terrified one.

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Speaker 3: Hundred percent, Katie, You know, like I was terrified, and

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Speaker 3: I'm growing up and there's people screaming, what a welcome,

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Speaker 3: welcome to dar One, What a joke. They need to

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Speaker 3: clean They need to clean this place up. They need

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Speaker 3: to move that bloody bust stop they've got there. Since

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Speaker 3: the bus stop's been moved, they've moved it from one

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Speaker 3: place to another. That's a problem. But the problem is

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Speaker 3: it's such a small place where the bus stop is,

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Speaker 3: and they congregate there, they fight with each other there.

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Speaker 3: It's a joke. Move the bus stop and do something

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Speaker 3: about it. The police took three hours I believe to come.

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Speaker 3: What mm hmm yep.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So the police were called, but they did not get

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Speaker 1: there for that period of time. Were they aware that

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Speaker 1: there was people with someone with a machete and knives?

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Speaker 3: I believe they were, yes, but that's what I got told. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but OK, thank to someone in there,

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Speaker 3: and they said, the police took three hours to come.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, we'll see what we can find out. We

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Speaker 1: have certainly contacted the police. Seb who works in our newsroom,

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Speaker 1: has certainly contacted the police to see if we can

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Speaker 1: find out what exactly has happened. From their perspective, Christine,

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Speaker 1: what did you do when all of this was unfolding?

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Speaker 1: Did you just try and find somewhere where no one

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Speaker 1: could come near you?

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Speaker 3: So I went in my car. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, even the car park's not safe if they

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Speaker 3: come out and then start on the cars, and the

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Speaker 3: car park my car was sort of at the back.

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Speaker 3: I just got in in my car and just sat

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Speaker 3: there and I thought, I like sort of frozen. It

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Speaker 3: was horrible, absolutely horrible.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a horrendous situation.

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Speaker 1: You know, for everybody that was there, an incredibly frightening situation. Now,

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Speaker 1: if this doesn't show the government and show our decision makers,

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Speaker 1: our leaders within the Northern Territory community, that we've got

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Speaker 1: a serious, serious problem.

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Speaker 2: On our hands, then I don't know what bloody will well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that. I think, bring these people, these

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Speaker 3: government people that are working for the minister and whoever,

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Speaker 3: get them to come down here and stay here. Don't

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Speaker 3: come for ten minutes, stay here for half a day

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Speaker 3: a day, see what actually does go on. Because it's

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Speaker 3: not a rant. This is like bigger than what it

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Speaker 3: was normally, but it's every day. There's a problem here.

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Speaker 3: The kids come in, these weren't really kids, No, they

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Speaker 3: come in with knives, they're drunk. It's horrendous. They go

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Speaker 3: to the bus stop. People don't want to be in

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Speaker 3: the bus stop because it's not safe. I mean, what

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Speaker 3: the hell is the government doing?

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Speaker 1: Well, Christine, I really appreciate you speaking to us this morning.

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Speaker 1: I know that we're going to be catching up with

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Speaker 1: some other witnesses throughout the morning, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: really important that people are aware of exactly what has

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Speaker 1: gone on so we can try our best to make

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Speaker 1: some change.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today

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Speaker 3: You so much, Katie, thank you, thank you,