1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Already and this is the daily This is the daily. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Ohs oh, now it makes sense. Good morning, and welcome 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: to the Daily OS. It's Friday, the twentieth of December. 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm Billy, I'm Zara Zara. Today is our last day 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: in the office. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Cannot believe it. What a year it's been. We do, though, 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: I need to say at the top, have a summer 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: series coming, So this isn't the last that you will 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: hear Billy and I in your ears. Sadly, if that's 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: what you wanted, we will have those episodes over the 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: coming weeks. But today we are wrapping up the year 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: that was. As we look back on twenty twenty four, 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: it will. 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Be a very good series. Just quickly. You're saying, cannot 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: believe it. Do you think anyone ever gets to the 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: end of the year and goes I can believe that 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: it's been a long year. 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: I think well, I think when we're younger, time goes slower. 19 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: We have had this conversation. Time goes slower, and so 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: perhaps you reach the end of the year and you're like, oh, okay, 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: that was a roundred and sixty five days. 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: Great time goes so fast when you're older. 23 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: It feels like genuinely yesterday that Sam and I sat 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: in this room made our predictions for twenty twenty four 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: and here we are. 26 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: And we'll get into them because I hear you were 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: quite Acuratezara, So I'm glad you've been able to sneak 28 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: that in early on too. Okay, So on today's podcast, 29 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: we are going to reflect on what a big year 30 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it has been in the news. The Daily Os has 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: been there every step of the way breaking it down 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: for you, and today we just want to look at 33 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: all of the biggest moments from politics to pop culture. 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: I think the best way to wrap up a full 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five days. Oh it was a 36 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: leap year. 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: Was it a leapier this year? 38 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: Yes, every four years it's a leap yere US election 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: and Olympics, and that was this year. 40 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: In a year. 41 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: So we're going to go in themes. Why don't we 42 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: start locally first with domestic politics? 43 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: Soar, you're coming off strong and interesting. 44 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: Your favorite topic is Australian politics, is it? Yes, a 45 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: a nerd. 46 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: Kick it off for us, Okay, So I think it's 47 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: fair to say that this year in Australian politics was 48 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: quite backloaded, and by that I mean it was like 49 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: a kind of slow start to the year, but then 50 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: the back saw quite a lot of progress and quite 51 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: a lot of news events happen in this space. And 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: I think that just goes to the fact that we 53 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: are approaching an election and the government and the opposition 54 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: both knew that full well as we got to you know, 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: those last sitting weeks of the calendar, and that saw 56 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: a whole lot of massive pieces of legislation passed through. 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: So just to run you through them at the top 58 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: of my head, you know, we had a social media 59 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: ban pass parliament in a matter of weeks. We had 60 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: the governments helped Buy and Build to rent legislation that 61 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: was of course their big housing policy that passed in 62 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: the last week. And we saw changes to the way 63 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: that He's indexation works also pass through parliament. 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Both of those things, just a social media ban and 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: also Hex's massive things for young people. 66 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: Exactly, and I think again that speaks to the fact 67 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: that the government is really looking how to bring young 68 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: people into the folds ahead of that election. In terms 69 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: of where I guess the country sits as a whole, 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: it's fair to say that cost of living still remains 71 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: top of the agenda, both for voters and for the 72 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: government and the opposition. We saw in the US election 73 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: that the economy really stuck out as a defining feature, 74 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: and that is the same all around the world. It's 75 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: especially the same here. It'll be interesting to see whether 76 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: voters are talking about interest rates and things like that 77 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: at the election. We know, of course that that's not 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: something the government themselves can be changing, but we have 79 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: seen in other elections that governments are punished for higher 80 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: interest rates, so no doubt that'll be something that Anthony 81 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: Albinezi will be thinking a lot about over the summer holidays. 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: I think that if we take a step back, the 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: other big defining part of the Australian political landscape this 84 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: year were two independents. So Lydia Thorpe and Fatima Payman 85 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: were both part of other parties. Lydia Thorpe was part 86 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: of the Greens she left last year and Fatima payment 87 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: was part of the Labor Government and she left this year. 88 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: And I think both of them have been part of 89 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: the biggest moments in Australian politics. Lydia Thorpes of course, 90 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: and we've spoken about it on this podcast. Came when 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: the King was visiting Australia with Queen Camilla and she 92 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: stood up and staged a protest that made headlines all 93 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: around the world, not just here in Australia. And then 94 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: with Fatima Payman, she left the Labor Party due to 95 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: their stance on the war in Gaza as. 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: I was of a massive moment when she did that. 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Huge and you know, for a party that doesn't allow 98 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: for people to cross the floor, so when you're in 99 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: the Labor Party you need to vote with the Labor 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: Party on all matters. She was standing against them and 101 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: then left the party altogether. And since then she's really 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 2: been making waves. And again to the point of young people. 103 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: Fatima payment is one of the youngest people in Parliament 104 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: and so to see her leave one of the major 105 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: parties when we know young people are turning to minor 106 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: parties and independents, that'll be an interesting thing to keep 107 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: in mind. And of course there was another viral moment 108 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: with Fadam A. Payman and Pauline Hanson when there was 109 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: a bit of a tussle about Fatima Payman's citizenship, So 110 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: that'll be a story to watch in the new Year. 111 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to take a breath now. But the other 112 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: big political story I think that it would be remiss 113 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: of us not to mention this year was the return 114 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: of Julian Massange and that has kind of cross party lines. 115 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: That's been something that both the Labor government and the 116 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: Coalition have been talking about for years and years and years, 117 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: and this year was the year that he was released 118 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: from prison and returned to Australia and now walks as 119 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: a freeman, which you know, when we went into twenty 120 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: twenty four, I don't know that would have been a 121 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: foregone conclusion. 122 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's absolutely crazy. Juliana Massange feels like something that 123 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: just went on for years and years and felt like 124 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: the never ending saga. So to see that he finally 125 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: did come home, that was just one of the moments 126 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: of the year domestically. And then just quickly you've mentioned 127 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: you're foreshadowed that we do have an election coming up 128 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: next year. It needs to happen before May. But other 129 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: than that, it's in the hands of Anthony Albersi as 130 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: to when exactly it will be. What are your predictions 131 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: as to what will happen there? 132 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think Firstly, in terms of the timing, 133 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: A lot of the chatter seems to be that it 134 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: will be held around March, just based on a whole 135 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: bunch of things that need to happen for that election 136 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: to be called. In terms of what will actually happen 137 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: come that federal election, I don't think anyone knows really. 138 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: I think based on the polling, it looks like it 139 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: might be difficult for either of the major parties to 140 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: win a majority. Support for both of the major parties 141 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: has continued to slip, especially as I said, among young people. 142 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: And I think that we can take some notes from 143 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: what we've seen globally, because twenty twenty four was the 144 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: year of the election. We saw elections all around the world, 145 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: and what we saw was a fairly uniform shift to 146 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: the right. Billy talked me through this trend that we saw. 147 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did see elections all around the world. It 148 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: was actually the most amount of people that have ever 149 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: voted in elections around the world than ever before. So 150 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: it was a record making year four elections. I think 151 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: it's safe to say that the most high profile election 152 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: was definitely the US election between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, 153 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: and it was a very dramatic lead up to the election. 154 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Obviously we had Joe Biden drop out just months before 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: election day, and then we also had the two assassination 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: attempts on Donald Trump, which just major news moments. And 157 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: of course Trump did win in a decisive victory, and 158 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: the race was nowhere near as close as what was 159 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: predicted in the polls, which once again just shows us 160 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: that the polls, I think the public's trust in polls 161 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: is comminishing, is definitely diminishing. They've really struggled, especially with 162 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: the US elections. To get it right, Zara, we have 163 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: to play I mentioned it at the start of the 164 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: podcast that last year when you and Sam did the 165 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: episode on recapping Train Training three, you also predicted what 166 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: would happen this year, and you did it has to 167 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: be said, predict that Trump would win. Let's play a 168 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: little bit of that now. 169 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: I think he'll win the nomination and he'll win the president. 170 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: So you think he's going to be the president. 171 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: I think this time next year we'll be talking about 172 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: President Trump. Yeah, Okay, well we'll come back in twelve 173 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: months and sea, Yes, So what's going on? Hello future, Zara, 174 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: talk to you? Then, thank you for giving me that credit. 175 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: I will also just add, because the clip was not played, 176 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: that sam My beloved best friend and co founder, did 177 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: say on the same podcast that not only would Donald 178 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: Trump not win the presidency, but he believed he wouldn't 179 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: win the nomination and he was wrong on two her house. 180 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: If that's okay. He was right about starting a business, 181 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: so we still love him. 182 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: If you guys could see Zara's face right now, she's 183 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: just like glowing knowing that she was right exactly. Zara, 184 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: what was your biggest takeaway from the US election? 185 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: I think that the biggest takeaway for me was legacy 186 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: media getting it wrong. And by that I mean the tone. 187 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: The way that Donald Trump supporters were spoken about was 188 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: again fairly uniform when it came to legacy media. If 189 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: you flipped through you know, the big newspapers in the US, 190 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: what you saw was this writing that suggested there was 191 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: no way Donald Trump could win the presidency and that 192 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: anyone that voted for him was just wrong. And what 193 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: we saw was that more than half the country disagreed 194 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: with that and ended up voting. And I think that 195 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: this disconnect between the way that the media sees the 196 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: political class and the way that ordinary Americans and it's 197 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: not just an American issue, it's all around the world. 198 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: But I think that disconnect was really really clear at 199 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: the US election, and it. 200 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Was largely in legacy left wing media that you're talking about. Yeah, 201 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: and after the election happened, we sat down as a 202 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: newsroom and went through a lot of the coverage from 203 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: other newsrooms, and the words shocking was used a lot, 204 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: and we kept saying or surprise, yes, and we kept saying, 205 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: how could it be shocking if more than half of 206 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: the people who voted in the election did vote for 207 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump? 208 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: It was shocking for the other side, and it was 209 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: shocking because seemingly so much of the media sits on 210 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: that side. But yeah, taking a step back, that sort 211 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: of language around shock and surprise didn't really land for 212 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: anyone else. What about you, Billy, what was your takeaway? 213 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to stay in kind of like the media theme. 214 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: I think both campaigns really embraced new media for the 215 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: first time in the US election. I'm thinking about Joe Rogan, 216 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking a bat call her daddy. Kamala Harris's team 217 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: really went hard on TikTok, as did Donald Trump's team. 218 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump also spoke to the Paul Brothers, so there 219 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: was a lot of talking to influences to try to 220 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: reach a new audience that way. And I think that 221 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: was really interesting and really smart on both sides to 222 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: not just go go to the legacy media that we 223 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: were just speaking about Sarah, but to think of new 224 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: innovative ways to reach new audiences, especially young people. 225 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: I'll be really curious to see if that translates here, 226 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: Like we haven't seen the same. I mean, obviously we've 227 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: had a sky minister and the opposition leader on this podcast. 228 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: But we're included in that we are new media. 229 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: But I don't know that there has been a kind 230 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: of all of government or all of political class embracing 231 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: of new media. I think that we're still a media company, 232 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 2: whereas I haven't necessarily seen influences engaged in the way 233 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: they were in the US. I'll be really curious to 234 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: see if that happens. 235 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: I actually just saw Peter Dunnan do an interview with 236 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: Sam Frick I think his name is, who is the 237 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: Olympic diver who's very famous on TikTok. Yeah, so he Yeah, 238 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: there's an early indication that Christing possibly is going to 239 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: go down a similar route to what Donald Trump did. 240 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, definitely one to watch, and we will 241 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: be absolutely knocking on the doors of both a prime 242 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: minister and that position leader ask them to come on 243 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: this part again ahead of the election. But Billy, not 244 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: just the US election that happened. Tell me about everything 245 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: else in the world. 246 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: Before we get to that. We're going to hear a 247 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: quick message from our sponsor. Okay, you mentioned this earlier, 248 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: and I don't think I answered your question properly, But 249 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: we did see across the world, not just in the US, 250 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: a swing to the right. We also saw in Europe 251 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: across several elections. So there was the European Parliament's election, 252 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: which is the world's only democratically elected transnational organization. Was 253 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: a mouthful, yes, but so it was a whole lot 254 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: of countries that were part of this election. They saw 255 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: a historic surge for small far right parties across Europe, 256 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: and in particular that one election caused a lot of 257 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: disruption to France, who had to call a snap election 258 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: for its own parliament because of the popularity, the unexpected 259 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: popularity in the rise in the far right. Like you said, 260 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: and that has now led to months of disarray in 261 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: French politics, and we've already seen another French PM come 262 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: and go since that, and it's all because of this 263 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: sudden surge in the right. 264 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's a really interesting thing because so 265 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: much of politics is cyclical in that it goes in cycles. 266 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: You know, you have a swing to the left, then 267 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: a swing to the right, and a swing to the left. 268 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: But somehow this is still really surprising a lot of analysts. 269 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a similar thing also happened in Austria and Portugal, 270 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: and also in Germany on a state level. 271 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, on a state level, there were grounds made from 272 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: far right parties that hadn't happened or hadn't been seen 273 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: since World War Two. So that's definitely one. And we 274 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: saw the German Chancellor Olive Schultz voted down in a 275 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: no confidence vote just this week, so definitely one to 276 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 2: keep an eye on in the new year, yeaph. 277 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: And then elsewhere, we had the biggest election that the 278 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: world has ever seen in India, where nearly one billion 279 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: people voted over a six week period. Can you imagine 280 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: that we have twenty six million people who need a 281 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: vote in Australia, they had one billion people, unbelievable who 282 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: needed to vote, and that resulted in incumbent Prime Minister 283 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: Naranda Emodi returning to power for a third time. And 284 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: then also just of note, Mexico elected its first female president. 285 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we knew that that was a foregone conclusion 286 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: because both candidates in the end were females. So either 287 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: way it was going to end with a female president there. 288 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: I had forgot that, Okay, and Zara. Whilst we are 289 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: still talking about overseas, a big focus in the news 290 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: this year has been what has been happening in the 291 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Middle East. Yeah, the changing geopolitics there. Do you want 292 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: to take us through that? 293 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 294 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: I mean the thing is that there are just so 295 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: many different stories that are kind of interwoven and interlaced 296 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: in this one region, and it has seen the biggest 297 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: shift in decades just in the last couple of months alone. 298 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: So obviously, I think the first thing to be said 299 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: is that the war between Israel and Hummas in Gaza 300 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: remains ongoing. That has not come to an end. It 301 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: started this round of violence rather started on October seven 302 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three. But there does seem to be 303 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: a move towards a ceasefire, and perhaps the most meaningful 304 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: steps taken to a ceasefire that we've seen in months. 305 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: So based on reporting, there could be a ceasefire deal 306 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: over the Christmas period, but we'll have to wait and 307 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: see what happens there. Elsewhere. In Lebanon, Hesbela and Israel 308 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: reached a ceasefire earlier this year, and that came after 309 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: Hesbelah was really quite weakened. There had been an ongoing 310 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: war since October eighth of last year between those two 311 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: and Hesbela had this year lost its leadership almost entirely, 312 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: and that ended up with, as I said, that deal 313 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: being reached. Then if we go to another border that 314 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: Israel has with Syria. In Syria, we saw the government 315 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: collapse in recent weeks and there's been that vacuum of 316 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: power that has been filled by the rebels there. 317 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: So I guess kind of what we can take from 318 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: there is that previously last year, a lot of the 319 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: war was focused on what was happening in Gaza, and 320 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: now a lot of it is based on what is 321 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: happening at the borders of Israel on multiple sides. 322 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, so Israel is fighting on multiple fronts, but 323 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: I think the one commonality there is Iran. So the 324 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: Iranian regime backs Hamas, it backs Hezbola, and until recently 325 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: it was backing Syria and Bashar al Asad, and all 326 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: three of those, as I just mentioned, have had quite 327 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: significant changes. In recent months. We have seen Iran and 328 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Israel for the very first time directly attack each other. 329 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: But that didn't really escalate into a direct war between 330 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: the two, but it certainly symbolizes the biggest shift in 331 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: the region in a very long time. 332 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: An absolutely massive thing that happened this year and that 333 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: will continue to keep a very close eye on in 334 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: the new year. Zara, a bit of a change of pace. 335 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about cultural moments. 336 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: We had a fight about this. 337 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh my, that sounds like we hate each other. We don't, 338 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: but we just argued about what the biggest cultural moments were, 339 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: and I think that speaks to how fragmented everyone's algorithms are. 340 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: What's very popular on your for you page obviously isn't 341 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: the same as my for you page, which is what 342 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: is so addictive about TikTok and yeah, algorithms that I 343 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: think is so tailored to. 344 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 2: You like, how interesting that in a conversation we're having 345 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: about big cultural news moments, TikTok is the thing that 346 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: has somehow shaped that like that is totally That in 347 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: itself is so novel and I can't remember a time 348 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 2: where it can dictate what is important to someone and 349 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: not important to another person. But we'll stop with the 350 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: preamble now, Billy, what was the stand up cultural moment 351 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: for you this year? 352 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: Okay, well, it's not one that you agreed with, no, 353 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: but I didn't want to have recency bias, so I 354 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: wanted to pick one that was from earlier in the year, 355 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: and I would say it was Kate Middleton, which it 356 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: feels so long ago, Yeah, but that was this year. 357 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 358 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: But it went on for about a month where the 359 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: world was wondering what had happened to her, what she was. 360 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: There had been a lot of speculation about it, and 361 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: in March, on Mother's Day, she put up a photo 362 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: of herself with her three children, and it was then 363 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: discovered that that photo was photoshopped. And I think what 364 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: stood out to me was the fact that Geddy and 365 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: I think AAP as well, which are both photo agencies 366 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: that we use at the Daily Os. They had put 367 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: a kind of warning or cautionary message on that photo 368 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: saying that this photo has been photoshopped and that you 369 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: should be wary when you use it. And I have 370 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: never seen anything like that before, And that was a 371 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: conversation at the time that that was unprecedented for them 372 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: to do that, and it then led to even more 373 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: of a storm of speculation, and it was then revealed 374 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: towards the end of March that Kate Middleton had been 375 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: diagnosed with cancer and had begun chemotherapy, which I think 376 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: was a very sad kind of ending to that speculation. 377 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: I think it caused a lot of people to reflect 378 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: on how they had reported and how they had commented. Discourse, Yeah, 379 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: on her kind of disappearance, and they're not disappearance, but 380 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: I would say that was, you know, in the first 381 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: three months of this year, that was one of the 382 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: biggest stories. 383 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: And also I just had to google this to make 384 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: sure it was this year. But King Charles was also 385 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: diagnosed with cancer this yes, so Prince William had both 386 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: his wife and his father battling separate cancer diagnoses at 387 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: the same time. It's unbelievable to think what can happen 388 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: in just one year. I do think that that recency 389 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: bias is perhaps clouding my judgment, and I do remember 390 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: it was a huge moment at the time, and you're right, 391 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: like the implications were fairly far reaching. 392 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: So I'll give you that, all right, Zarah, What was 393 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: your biggest moment of the year in culture? 394 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: Well, for me, when I think back to this year, 395 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: the thing that stands out is just this rise and 396 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: rise and rise of female artists, and specifically the idea 397 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: that people think that Charlie XCX, Chapel Ron Sabrina Carpenter, 398 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: that these people were overnight successes. And I have just 399 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: loved reading, listening to watching the fact that these super 400 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: stars have been decades in the making but have emerged 401 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: into stardom very very quickly, and just you know, watching 402 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: Chapel Roone performing busking on the street to nobody to 403 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: then filling out the biggest festival audience that the world's 404 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: ever seen. I just think like it's been the year 405 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: of the female pop star, of the GIRLI Pops, of 406 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: the Gurli Pops, and like, really, you know, I think 407 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 2: last year was probably Harry Styles's year. This year has 408 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: to be the year of the female superstar, led of 409 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: course by Taylor Swift, but she has kind of reigned 410 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: supreme for a very long time. So I think it's 411 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: the new entrance who really characterized twenty twenty four. 412 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: For me, absolutely love it. Should we get to sport? 413 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: Are you not going to mention Reagun? Billy has ridden 414 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: here Reagun rise and fall, but maybe we can just 415 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: leave that there. I don't know that we need to 416 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: elaborate much more that happened. 417 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know whether to say Reagan's rise or Reagan's 418 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: full both of the above, but I think that she 419 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: was also one of the biggest cultural moments. I mean, 420 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: literally six months ago we had never heard her. 421 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: I know we did. Actually I will say our sport 422 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: journo George did write a piece about who was ray 423 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: Gun ahead of the Olympics, So we were ahead of 424 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: the curve there. He always is that one. Yeah, that 425 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: one could be recycled many times after the fact. But anyway, 426 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 2: let's move on now, good segue here to the biggest 427 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: sports story of the years. What's it for you? All right? 428 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: I think it is the Olympics. Australia had its best 429 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: performance at an Olympics. Ever, that's in terms of gold 430 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: medals won and it was again year of the girlipops. 431 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: It was really the Australian women who absolutely dominated our 432 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: gold medal tally. We had Arian Timmis, Jessica Fox, the 433 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: or the Fox Sisters, really Emma McKeon, just so many 434 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: and then Raygun. Can we include Raygun? She didn't win 435 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: a gold medal, but she was included in the rise 436 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: of Australian sports women at the Olympics, which was just 437 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: so exciting to see. One day, I remember we woke 438 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: up to there being four gold medals having been won 439 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: by the Australian Olympic team in the space of five 440 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: hours or something. 441 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. 442 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: It was such a proud moment to be Australian, which 443 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: is always such a nice feeling. Touche Zara, what about you? 444 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: Mine is a more recent story, but it is just 445 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: the unbelievable rise of Australians. Sprinting star Quaquat who broke 446 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: the nation's longest standing record in athletics and the best 447 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: part is that he did it at like a school 448 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: loving festival, at a school carnival school carnival, I mean 449 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: where else is a good place to be a you know, 450 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: decades long record. 451 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: It was like an all schools carnival, Like it wasn't here. 452 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: It was like imagining my local school carnival. 453 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: I was so nervous, but still just so exciting. 454 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: So exciting, and I think that this signals and symbolizes 455 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 2: the next wave of Ossie talent that we're going to see. 456 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 2: And he's just at the beginning. You know, he's got 457 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: his eyes set on twenty thirty two, but we know 458 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: that he ran faster than you say Bolt did at 459 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: the same age, So I think we have high hopes, 460 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: but not too high. I think that it's an important 461 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: message about not putting too much pressure on up and 462 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: coming talent because he is so young and he has 463 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: so much ahead of him. He's just going to take 464 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: his time with it. 465 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see at the twenty thirty two Olympics. 466 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I'll be waiting eight years. Is that how long it is? 467 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: But that will be a very exciting moment. But like 468 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: you said, we can't put too much pressure on him, Zarah, 469 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: that's twenty one. That's twenty twenty four. The year that was. 470 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: Wow, what a year Lots has happened, lots more will happen. 471 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: TDA will be there every step of the way, as 472 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: you said, can't wait. 473 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to every single person who is 474 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast right now and to everyone who 475 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: has been listening to The Daily Ors this entire year. 476 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: Our podcast numbers, I've said this before on the podcast, 477 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: but they've never been higher, and we're just so appreciative 478 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: of every single person who listens to us appreciates new media, 479 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: like we said, and we'll be back again next year 480 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: to do it all again. Like we said, we've got 481 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: the Australian election, which is just like Christmas. Christmas is 482 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: being extended for the Daily Ohs because we have an 483 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: Australian election. 484 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: We'll wrap it up there, but take care of yourself 485 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: over this holiday period. We will be back with a 486 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: final good news rap tomorrow, but after that we have 487 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 2: got our summer series, so stay tuned and have a 488 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: wonderful summer. 489 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: Bye. 490 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 491 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: Bungelung Kalkotin woman from Gadighl Country. 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