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Speaker 1: On Friday night. Well, a terrible night in Alice Springs,

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Speaker 1: a terrible weekend by the sounds of things. Shortly before

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Speaker 1: after a commercial building on Bath Street was unlawfully ended

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Speaker 1: and five cars were stolen. The public reported multiple incidents

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Speaker 1: relating to those vehicles driving radically around the CBD Police

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Speaker 1: CCTV continued to monitor and capture the happenings. The vehicles

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Speaker 1: all continued well and contained, I should say, several youths,

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Speaker 1: sometimes hanging out of the car and attempting to swerve

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Speaker 1: at police before driving away at speed. Now joining me

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Speaker 1: is the member for Namajira, Bill Yan, down in Alice Springs.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Bill, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 2: How are you not too bad? Bill?

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Speaker 1: Another shocking weekend by the sounds of things.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, it was a weekend of chaos and mayhem

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Speaker 2: in our springs from what we've seen those cars from

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Speaker 2: the building next to my office there on that Thursday

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Speaker 2: Friday night. And this is what I think the third

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Speaker 2: or fourth pond that these guys have been hit and

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Speaker 2: had vehicle stolen. And then yeah, of course, then mayhem

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Speaker 2: in the CBD again. Only just last night, Katie, we

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Speaker 2: had a Congress got hit again by U's four vehicle

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Speaker 2: stole on their one crash.

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Speaker 3: In the CBD.

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Speaker 2: Police managed to get the other three with the tigre

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Speaker 2: deflation devices before they got too far out of town.

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Speaker 1: So sorry, built four more cars stolen last night.

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Speaker 3: Last night from Congress.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, one would all driven in train into

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Speaker 2: the CBD to go on there Mary Mayhem yet again.

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Speaker 2: But I said one crash because they get ready driving

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Speaker 2: and police managed to stop the other three.

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Speaker 3: So it's not getting any better, Katie.

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Speaker 2: In fact, if anything, is probably getting worse. And this

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Speaker 2: is on the back of what you guys had up

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Speaker 2: in daw And over the weekend. Some of us always

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Speaker 2: coming out of there. It's beyond belief. How somebody hasn't

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Speaker 2: been killed yet. Is it's just by sheer bloody luck, Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: sheer luck, because something really bad is going to happen soon,

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Speaker 2: and I hate you'll see what they are come is.

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Speaker 3: Going to be.

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Speaker 1: And Bill, obviously we have seen something really bad happen

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Speaker 1: at you know, just two weeks ago with the death

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Speaker 1: of Decklan Lavity. But from what you were saying, you're

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Speaker 1: talking more you know about these cars being on the road,

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Speaker 1: aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Well we had it here months two years ago, said

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Speaker 2: Shane Powell killed them the main intersection here in town

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Speaker 2: by kids in a stolen car. Not much was sort

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Speaker 2: of done about that. There was no particularly any law changes.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't many, There wasn't any outcomes from that. Of course, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Decklan Lavity just a few weeks ago the death there

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Speaker 2: in the workplace, it said, we're going from from bad

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Speaker 2: to worse, and I said, it's a matter of time

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Speaker 2: before again something really bad is going to happen.

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Speaker 3: And then it'll take something bad happening game we set

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Speaker 3: it in.

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Speaker 2: Part of it. It'll take that for government to finally

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Speaker 2: come out and make some further changes. It seems it

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Speaker 2: has to be a crisis point and someone paying the

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Speaker 2: ultimate price for government to actually act. Well, it shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have to get to that, and Bill.

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Speaker 1: It sort of makes a mockery, doesn't it. Of the

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Speaker 1: fact that vehicles weren't included in the list of weapons.

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Speaker 1: I suppose no.

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Speaker 2: And the vehicle vehicles probably one of the most dangerous

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Speaker 2: weapons that you can probably think of, because it can

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Speaker 2: it's not just an individual that may get killed.

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Speaker 3: It could be an entire family.

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Speaker 2: Imagine running into a bus load of people forcing off

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Speaker 2: the rate. You can't begin to imagine what some of

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Speaker 2: those outcomes may be. And that family in Darwen who

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Speaker 2: were effectively carjacked, imagine if that had offender how to

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Speaker 2: down Tiger brand with them in it and then crash,

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Speaker 2: Well what would have happened Katie's fright ning. Luckily that

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Speaker 2: they only got away with the laceration for anam. It

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Speaker 2: could have been just so much worse.

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Speaker 1: So Bell with the incidents from the weekend in Alys

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Speaker 2: I think there was over five cars, Cadie. And then

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Speaker 2: they said you've had the other fast the other fall

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Speaker 2: of ten or twelve again over I suppose that Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday period plus the numerous break ins. Look

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Speaker 2: the rock thrawin still goes on. I got home Saturday morning,

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Speaker 2: and my daughter's telling me of an incident where her

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you are a politician, you're a member

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and my daughter works out of town.

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Speaker 2: She's always coming home later. No, that's just the nature around.

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Speaker 2: So she's got to run the gaunt look through the

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I worry, And I said she worries too.

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Speaker 2: That at the end of the day, you stop and think,

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Speaker 2: what can we do. We've done everything, we've we've spoken,

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Speaker 2: we've yelled from the rooftops. Nothing nothing is happening. So

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Speaker 2: and that's where government needs to step up. They've got

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Speaker 2: support our support our police and give them the resources

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Speaker 2: they need to be able to address some of these issues.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of supporting the police, what do you make of

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Speaker 1: the news from over the weekend. And we spoke to

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Speaker 1: Matt Cunningham from Sky News a little bit earlier this

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Speaker 1: morning that the police Commissioner, Jamie Chalker, was well, he's

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Speaker 1: been asked to resign by the Northern Territory government. Obviously

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Speaker 1: no government minister out yet this morning to confirm that,

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Speaker 1: but Sky News has revealed this information over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the governor to come out and tell us

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Speaker 2: hearing this story, but the governor effectively mum on it.

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Speaker 2: They're not saying a word. Even people within the police

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Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. We're talking about restoring integrity

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Speaker 2: and certainly within our police force, the governor are not

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Speaker 2: I've heard the stories, as has everybody else, that the

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Speaker 2: he's been asked to resign, but we're not hearing anything

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Speaker 2: particularly after the weekend of crime that we've seen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: government needs out providing that certainty do every territory in

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Speaker 2: that our police force is supported, that they've got the

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Speaker 2: to know. It's it's a worry, Katie, it really is.

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Speaker 2: Every Territorian should be concerned that the government are not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, they need to come out and they

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Speaker 1: say though, to the Northern Territory Police, you know they

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Speaker 1: were out over the weekend working their bums off. The

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Speaker 1: on from that crime spree on Saturday night. So they

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Speaker 1: are continuing on with that hard work, which is incredibly

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Speaker 1: heartening I think for the whole community. But the government

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Speaker 3: Look, how police are doing the hard yards.

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Speaker 2: Kay, They're on the ground doing absolutely everything that they

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Speaker 2: can to keep all of us safe. But yeah, they

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Speaker 2: need that support. They need that support from your government

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Speaker 2: and their minister to provide that certainly as to what

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Speaker 2: it's going to look like into the future and sadly

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Speaker 2: at the moment, nobody seems to know what the hell's

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Speaker 2: going on.

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Speaker 1: Bill. We've gotten you on to talk about the health system.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a huge amount of time, but mate,

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Speaker 1: can I ask you with everything that is going on

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Speaker 1: at the top end, we know that there was just

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Speaker 1: last week a code yellow, how are things going from

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Speaker 1: your perspective as the opposition spokesperson for health with our

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Speaker 1: staffing levels right now?

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Speaker 2: Our staffing levels are absolutely critical in our health system, Katie.

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Speaker 2: I know that we're at least one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: four down here in Central Australia and we're only a

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Speaker 2: small jurisdic from Darwin's probably got a large area to

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Speaker 2: what they need to do with our their A and

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Speaker 2: little bit smaller, we don't have that capacity. In some respect.

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Speaker 2: We've been pulling nurses in from our remote communities to

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Speaker 2: foster that both Alice Springs our remote communities are suffering

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Speaker 2: there and of course that creates a dynamic shift within

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Speaker 2: get it back on communities.

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Speaker 3: So it creates a horrible situation for all involved.

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Speaker 2: But the code yellow the other week, it got lost,

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Speaker 2: like we had a horror week on the entire territory

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Speaker 2: had a horror week after the death of Declan and

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Speaker 2: that's when that code yellow was announced and sort of

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Speaker 2: it got lost. But another code yellow and our major

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Speaker 2: hospital system is a major issue, and we asked the

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Speaker 2: we got the Simon dantre utine that we've heard so

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Speaker 2: many times about health you know, the old chestnut COVID

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Speaker 2: was trotted out, told about how good they are.

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Speaker 3: It was like I didn't want to hear that.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to hear from the minister what they're doing

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Speaker 2: to make sure that our nurses are supported as well,

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Speaker 2: because again, like police and nurses and their healthcare teams,

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Speaker 2: they're on the coal pace supporting our audits and they

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Speaker 2: need that support and the government needs to be really

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Speaker 2: doing everything it can to be able to recruit and

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Speaker 2: fill those positions to alleviate some of the work lad

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Speaker 2: for those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you spot on, and we know that the health

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Speaker 1: system is under so much pressure at this point, Bill,

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Speaker 1: we might have to get you on to have a

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Speaker 1: bit more of a chat about the health system at

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Speaker 1: some point in the very near future. Thank you as

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Speaker 1: always for your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: CA. Do you have a great day you too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you