1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: This is jem Nation, were jonesy and You're a mirror? 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: This is Todd Sampson's new show is seven thirty last 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: night on Channel ten. And I'll say this, I'm not 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: against handheld devices or internet technology or social media. It's 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: like going back one hundred and twenty years and saying, oh, 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't want a car. I don't want the automobile. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: But I do agree with Todd when he talks about 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: regulation and when he did talk about how I find 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: it extraordinary in this business which we've been doing, you 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: know for a thousand years. We can't just get on 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: and say whatever we want. But on the Internet you 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: can do it like an idiot like that. Alex Jones 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: in America on YouTube was saying that the Sandy Hook 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: massacre was a fake set up by gun controlled lobbyists, 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: so people would take away their guns in America and 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: they're all crisis actors and this guy, the algorithm in 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: that media had people that would be recommended to you. 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: So on your YouTube, so you further and further go 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: down a wormhole of conspiracy. 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Theories and you think you're getting the world's news. You're 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: not narrow information. 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Alex Jones. Even Alex Jones himself, who I 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: don't think he's overly bright, is actually now in court 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: and he's sitting there. He started to believe it. Believe what, 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: believe his own bullshit. He was believing that that it 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: was true because people are going, yeah, you're right. There's 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: a great responsibility in this job. I could get on 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: and say any crazy thing. 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: And we take that responsibility as well very serious. 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: It's almost selling your soul to the devil a bit. 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: You could say you can make up any conspiracy theory 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: and you will get more attention than if you just 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: are reasonable and positive. 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: Well, we all know that controversy, this is what the 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Murdoch Press does. We all know that controversy equals money. 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: It's clickbait, it's people reading more tuning in that kind 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: of fear. Controversy sallacious scandal, a story you can't afford 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: to miss, people will tune in to see it, and you, 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: as members of the media, you and I choose not 40 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: to be that exactly. 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: And there's a moment where Alex Jones is confronted by 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: the mother of one of the kids that was killed 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: at Sandy Hook and she looks him dead in the 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: eye and you can see him go. Okay, I've mucked 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: this up. I've mucked this up royally and too. Last 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: night's episode of Mirror and Mirror, there was this fascinating 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: bit about only Fans. I'm fascinated with Only Fans. 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: So tell me OnlyFans is subscription you pay to watch 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: someone in particular and it's always sexual. 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I didn't think it was only sexual. I 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: just thought originally, I just thought it was so you 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: could get access to your favorite. 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: And the person who may have been on Instagram or 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: whatever things. Actually, I'm going to make this work for 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: me financially. You have to pay out of here my 56 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: thoughts like a Russell brand or something. You pay to 57 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: hear him, hear his thoughts. That's not sexual. So that's 58 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: not only fans. 59 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: Well, only fans. Imagine you got Russell Brand, but then 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: you want to see him doing something with a milk bottle. Right, 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: that's only fans. Right. Todd explains it explained it quite 62 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: well on the show. 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: Only Fans was founded by tech entrepreneur Tim Stokely. His 64 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: prior businesses were the adult performance sites glam Girls and 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: Customs for You. He's been dubbed the King of homemade porn. 66 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: In the last three years, Only Fans has grown from 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: seven million users to over one hundred and seventy million, 68 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: with estimated annual earnings of one point two billion. OnlyFans 69 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: is social media with a paywall. Only Fans successfully blurs 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: the line between online influencer culture and pornography, which is 71 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: why it's growing in popularity amongst kids. 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: You look at that seven wow, seven million three years ago, 73 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy million uses of it. 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: And the people who were who were providing the content, 75 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: imagine their accountants. Who was this a text deduction? 76 00:03:59,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: If I were? 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: And it's so specific, I'm just looking at this here, 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: this woman's made worldwide news. She's Australian. She's Australia's hottest 79 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: racing tipster. Former jockey Libby Hopwood. Her Only Fans account 80 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: has been making global news because she shares her bedding 81 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: tips while wearing lingerie. Right, it's specific. If life gives 82 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: you lemons, yep, make lemonade and charge people to see. 83 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: It, maybe that's what we should do. It's like the 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: old days of Picture and People magazine. You had reader's wife. 85 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's straddling a laundry basket or leaning up against 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 2: a tree in the backyard. This is more crafted than that, 87 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: I'm assuming. But married at first Sight it's interesting. A 88 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: whole lot of people from Married at First Site are 89 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: on only Fans and probably were before they got cast. 90 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: The new range of married at First Site contestants for 91 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: this round are coming from only fans. So here's all 92 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: those people that complainly about the sanctity of marriage being 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: defiled by Merred at first sight. 94 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: These guys are pretty much they're being cast already because 95 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: they're not genuine people. They're online perform almost. 96 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it must have to be worth your while. 97 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: We should get someone from only fans. Is anyone only fans? 98 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: Well, why are you looking at our production team? They're 99 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: not on only fans, so they do dress very well 100 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: for their wages. I'll say that all right, We'll try 101 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: and get someone from only fans. Maybe you want some 102 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: racing tips with someone in lingerie