1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: First question, what's this in my hand? 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Will h zucchini? 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: No, bloody hell, that is a cucumber, My friends, I 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: am holding a cucumber and here is a zucchini. Oh yep, 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 3: there many differences between as to be fair. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 4: You did just ask me about zucchini's I tricked it 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 4: up a green. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: I tricked you. 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: There was a little bit of bumfulllery going on. I 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: fully appreciate that. But there is a genuine story in 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: the news today about the French among us, mainly those 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: that live in France. One in five of them couldn't 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: recognize a zucchini. 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 4: As opposed to a cucumber or and like from a distance, 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: because I'm in that camp, you apparently are well from 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: a distance though, like you're probably look I probably two 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: meters from me. 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: I think that. So they got to hold one. 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: They physically held a zucchini, and twenty percent of France of. 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: It very phallic objects. And you've been very silly with them. 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 4: You grow up, now you go stop. 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: I knew you'd do that. You can't help yourself. 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: Twenty percent of France thought they were holding either a cucumber. 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 5: Or an all begine also an agene also an egg plant. Yeah, 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 5: so the French agglant what's going on there? And I 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 5: just look at this and I go, how could you 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 5: possibly get to. 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: The age of is this study was done between what is. 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: The How would you describe the difference between a q 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 4: a q kennie and a zoo cumber? 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't want to go into because it's very visual, 32 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: but a zucchini has described far more shiny, smooth skin. 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: It's got a little I don't know what you call this, 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: but I always recognize little. 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: Buttle that it's got at the top there. 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: A cucumber has a little bit of a has this 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: like a string attached to it at the string and 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: it's got like bumps, And it's just a difference. 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: You've got bumps. No, they've both got. 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Those riches similar, similar, are similar. 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,919 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is that when I'm at the supermarket, 42 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: I never go, oh, is this a cucumber or is 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: KINI I never do that because I'm an adult and 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: I figured it out. 45 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,639 Speaker 1: And I don't know how there's. 46 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: Eighteen year old I don't know about that. 47 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: I don't know how there's eighteen year old French people 48 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: out there that genuinely can't. 49 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: Tell the difference. 50 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: So what I would love to ask on thirteen one 51 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: oh six five is what did you learn way too. 52 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Late in life? 53 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: You just somehow managed to get through life and didn't 54 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: pick up on some very very basic information for example. 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: And I'll just I'll torch myself here. 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: I got to the age I got to the age 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: of I think I was like over eighteen, and I 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: was of the belief that a lamb was was a 59 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 3: separate animal. I thought a lamb was a different thing 60 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: to a sheep. 61 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: It's just a. 62 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: Baby sheep, as we know. 63 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: And since that day I actually donate lan because I 64 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: was like, what the why are we eating these babies? 65 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: That's that's totally wild to me. So I had I 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: had no idea. My partner min quite seriously this having 67 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, said to me, it is 68 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: just it is just such a shame that unicorns are extinct. 69 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: Same reaction, I laughed. 70 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: I laughed at her and I was like, you you 71 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: are joking, and. 72 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: She goes, oh, would he don't be a dick? 73 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: Like I obviously know they don't have wings and they're 74 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: not mythical creatures, but I would love to see a 75 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: horse with one horn. 76 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: Min They never existed. They are made up creatures. 77 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: Sky. 78 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: What did you learn way too late in life that. 79 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 6: It's human beings and not human beans? 80 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: You thought it was human beans, as in like a 81 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: green bean. 82 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, And in fact, I did my entire first year 83 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 6: of nursing last year calling them human beans, and no 84 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 6: one bothered to. 85 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: Correct me, Like Jack and the beans talk wow wow, 86 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: and ess nurse all right? 87 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: Mary called on thirty one and six, Hi. 88 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: Mary, Hey there, can you hear me? 89 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 7: Okay? 90 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? Mate? 91 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: What'd you learn too late in life? 92 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 8: Just quickly? 93 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 6: I thought a rear vision mirror in a car was 94 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 6: called a revision mirror until I was twenty one. 95 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: I guess you're I don't mind it, you're revising what's behind? 96 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah kind of, yeah, it works, Stephi. 97 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: And also like if you're like revising because a lot 98 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: of people use it to fix their hair or their makeup. 99 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: Oh, maybe you've improved for the word it should be 100 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: a revision mirror, Steph. 101 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: What did you learn way too late in life? A? 102 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 9: Hi, guys, how he's going? 103 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 10: So? 104 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 6: I only just learned that the fuel gauge in your 105 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 6: car there's a little fuel pump pictures in me and 106 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 6: it's got an arrow next to it. It tells you 107 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 6: what side you should be pumping from. 108 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think everyone knew that. When When. 109 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 5: Did that? 110 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: Do? Me? 111 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: A long time to learn that? 112 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Really? 113 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to to memorize it on each car. 114 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: Did so it was a thought for you every time 115 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 3: you put into a petrol station you had to remember which. 116 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: Sign yes and the car left side of a car? 117 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: You get it wrong? 118 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: When did you find about about the arrow next to 119 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: the petrol station? 120 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: Set twelve thirteen? 121 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: No, I was a bit of a boy, jeanis so 122 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: you had a car learn that in Edinburgh? 123 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: Damn well done, Emma. What did you learn about way 124 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: too late in life? 125 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 10: Hey? 126 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 8: When I was in Uni, I found out that sotanas 127 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 8: are actually dried grapes. 128 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: Oh, Emma, so before before you knew they were dried grapes. 129 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: What did you think those little wrinkly bustards. 130 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 10: Were just the food? 131 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 8: I didn't think about it, I didn't. 132 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 6: I didn't know. 133 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they would dried out. You thought that 134 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: was like how they were? 135 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 136 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 8: I just thought that was them nothing out. 137 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, came out a little Benjamin Buttons came, let's go 138 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: to Maggie here. 139 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Uh, Maggie, what did you learn about? Way too late 140 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: in life? 141 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 8: I realized that my parents never taught me the difference 142 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 8: between sweet, tower and savory food like banana bread puzzles me. 143 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, slow down. 144 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 8: What I can tell sour by scringing up my face? 145 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 8: But I struggle to identify the difference between the three? 146 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on. 147 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: So if you ate a chocolate cake, you're not sure 148 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: if that's savory or sweet. 149 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 8: I guess it's a bit sweet, but I still like 150 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 8: banana bread. Tell me, is it sweet or is it savory? 151 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: Sweet? 152 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: You can get a very hell bread. 153 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 4: It's also a bread. You can get a sugar Freeman bread. Maggie, Maggie, 154 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: I've got one for you because my friends and I 155 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: discussed it. But before I ask you that the one 156 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 4: that I'm interested in? 157 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: How do they not like? I feel like I feel 158 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: like it's innate. 159 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: To know what's sweet and what's sound hour and what's savor? 160 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 8: You would think, you would think. And then my friend 161 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 8: asked me a question and I didn't know how to answer. 162 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: What was the question for you to not know? 163 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 8: I think it was the banana bread, and I couldn't 164 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 8: answer if it savory or if it was sweet. 165 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: Let me just ask what he's doing. 166 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: So what did when you were But like, you're not 167 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: teaching Remy this is sweet? 168 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: Is it? 169 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: Like that's what you just know? 170 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: That? 171 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: Right? 172 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: She just knows she gets something sweet. She just devours 173 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: it because I think from my daughters one and she's. 174 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: Craptos in it. 175 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: So you go that sugar, you know, and it hits 176 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: a different spot on your tongue. 177 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: Yes, right, it's addictive. 178 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: So, Maggie, you're blaming your parents for not being able 179 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: to differentiate between your flavors. 180 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 8: I think that's my excuse. 181 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's another one that you struggle with, Maggie? 182 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: But when I was going to come home, is peanut butter? 183 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: Peanut butter toast? 184 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 8: Oh god, Oh that's savory to me? 185 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I have to agree with you. Well, yeah, 186 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: there's no sweetness. There's no sugar in peanut butter. 187 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: Peanut butter is a desert. 188 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: Is it white bread or is it wholemeal? 189 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: Bread? Cross a bit of a scary story? Have listened 190 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: to this? 191 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 11: A new study published by Stanford University's Existential Risks Initiative 192 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 11: has identified five major threats to humanity. They are growth 193 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 11: and collapse, climate cataclysm, World War three, synthetic biology in 194 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 11: the wild, and run away artificial intelligence. 195 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: Synthetic biology, synthetic biology in the wild. I'm still trying 196 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: to figure out what this is. But AI, they're saying runaway. 197 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 4: AI is basically considered a major threat by most people 198 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: in the know. 199 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: Literally run away, so intelligence, run away? No, No, I 200 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: like it, build an army and then come back. 201 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: No, are you sure he doesn't mean that? 202 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: Yes, what is it? 203 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: What's're referring to me? He says, run away? 204 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: He means, you know, the technology gets out of our 205 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: hands and we can't control it anymore, so that it 206 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: becomes self aware and then attacks. I'm not going to 207 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: run away and then build an army because we just 208 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 4: follow it and then kill it, all. 209 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Right, So but how we track it? 210 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: That is a ill Okay, So if something runs away, yeah, 211 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: you track it, right, my cat has a tag on it. 212 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: But that is AI. No, that's just that's just toough. 213 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: You don't know what AI is. 214 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Not really a few as all. 215 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: I didn't move you away from that and play a 216 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: band new game with you because I won't talking about 217 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: how things got extinct, A thought that would be fun, 218 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: even that we're talking about the human race being extinct. 219 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit of a grim topic. 220 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: This game is called how did that animal get extinct? 221 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: Oh, let's do it. 222 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: First animal here, and I'm telling you how. Yeah you 223 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: can guess. Okay, the stellar's sea cow? 224 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: What is that? 225 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: It was first spotted in seventeen forty one and was 226 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: dead within extinct within twenty seven years of being discovered, 227 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 4: and eight to ten me to sea animal that weighed 228 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: between eight to ten thousand kilograms enormous. 229 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: Big boy. 230 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: Okay, So see cow that the walls all the seal 231 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: is the sea cow of the ocean. 232 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: So I assume it's a manatee or is generally speaking, Well, 233 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: it's a sea cow. 234 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's a manatee like figure. How did it 235 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: get extinct? 236 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say too heavy, got too heavy, and then 237 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: they just got stuck on the bottom of the ocean. 238 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: They all drowned. 239 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: Ah, bad luck. 240 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: Kind of right in the size category, though, yes, I 241 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: do find this, I mean it is grim. 242 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: That quite funny. 243 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: It was unable to submerge its very large body too big. 244 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: I was pretty much right, so it would float. 245 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: Up on the top of the surface and was killed 246 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 4: by humans within twenty seven years. 247 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, next one here. 248 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 4: The dodor. 249 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: One meter all ten to eighteen kilos. 250 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: Last six scepted sighting was in sixteen sixty two on 251 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 4: the island of Mauritius. 252 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 3: There you go, famously a great internet company. 253 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, famously I took that. How did that die? 254 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: How was that extinct? 255 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 3: So basically, the dodo can't fly, yeah, and all of 256 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: its predators are on the ground. So like birds escape 257 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: their predators by flying, dodo can't fly. 258 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 10: Yeah. 259 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: Boom boom boom. 260 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: Pretty close. 261 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 4: Although the Dodo thrived on the island of Mauritius because 262 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 4: it had no natural predators and we just enjoyed eating 263 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: seeds and nuts and leaves and things like that until 264 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: humans arrived on Mauritius and wipe them out. 265 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: Because they can't fly. Of course. All right, final final, 266 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: Why are you not enjoying my game? Final one? 267 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: Here? The pirhennean ibex what's that? Ireni ibex was discovered 268 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 4: in Spain. It looks a little bit like a goat, 269 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: like a big goat with. 270 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: Horns, like a mountain goat. It's got horns. 271 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: Fifty thousand and them they reckon historically down to about 272 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: one hundred of them in the year nineteen one hundreds. 273 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so relatively fresh one. 274 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: So what I know about mountain goats, I've seen a 275 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: few in the wild in the flesh. Irl see their 276 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: risk takers on those mountains, like they're on like honestly, 277 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: like you on the side of the mountain, like how. 278 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: The bloody held it? 279 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 3: Tre goat get up here? So I imagine the Tyrannean. 280 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: The Pyrenean ibex. 281 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: The Pyrenean apex was so apex ibex ibex. Well there's 282 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: my theory. But I like being on top of mountains 283 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: fell off. 284 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: Fifty thousand of them fell off. Yeah, that's incorrect. Yeah, 285 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: they were poached from fifty thousand down to one hundred. 286 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: Within about fifty years. 287 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: What like what did they have on? 288 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: Humans just killed them. 289 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: But the great news is for us the last one 290 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 4: wasn't actually killed by a human. It was killed by 291 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 4: a tree that fell down on it in the zoo 292 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: in the year two thousand. 293 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: That is tragic. 294 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: They had the last one captivities. 295 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: No, they said the tree brune one day. 296 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: He's absolutely stuffed that he is absolutely wiped out. 297 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Imagine being that guy, well a woman. Oh see, this 298 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: was Grim's vulnerable. 299 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 6: And what is. 300 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: Sho gotta get vulnerable on evednsday. That's why the music's 301 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 4: a bit scary. It's tough. It's hard to be vulnerable. 302 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: But I think as everyone finds out what vulnerable you are, 303 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 4: the less scary it can become. So it's a good exercise. 304 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 4: I hope we are setting a bit of an example 305 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 4: for you guys out there who find this very tricky. 306 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: Woods. 307 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: I think I'm still a bit of a low fitness space, 308 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: but I'm getting fitter, and. 309 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: It is just thea that you're willing to do it 310 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 4: shows that's it a lot of strength. 311 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: Anyway, Let's see if you cop out I've got. 312 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: Because as we said a number of times in this 313 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: there's obviously a place that you can feel that you 314 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 4: need to go to that is the vulnerable bit, and 315 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: then there's a whole bunch of shit before there, which 316 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: isn't real. 317 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: Two questions for you, I need to fight harder four 318 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: dot dot dot. 319 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: One second question the last time I pretended I wasn't crying. 320 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: Which one have you going. 321 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: For well, just to extend on your point. The first 322 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: one that came to my mind. 323 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: It was just such an easy one, and I was 324 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: following the thread on when did you pretend you weren't crying? 325 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: And I was. 326 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: There was an example when I was on the couch 327 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: with Mim and I was I was trying to pretend 328 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: I wasn't crying. 329 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: During a movie. 330 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: But interestingly, I find with crying, I'm actually more worried 331 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: about myself if I'm not crying, if I haven't cried 332 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: for a while, that's a real concern for me because 333 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: it means I'm not I'm blocking all my emotions. So 334 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: I'm not following that one. Okay, I'm going to go 335 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: for I need to fight harder. 336 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: Four fight harder for so I need to fight harder 337 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: for it. 338 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely, And I know I need to do this, 339 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: And I don't know why. 340 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why this is so. 341 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: Hard for me, and I do battle with it, but 342 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: I need to fight harder to stay in contact with 343 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: my friends. And it seems like such a simple thing. 344 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: And maybe people will hear that and go, oh, that's 345 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: a cop out, like that's just such a shallow you know, 346 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: surface level one, but it's not for me. And I'm 347 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: not good with my phone, and I know I've got 348 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: a lot of friends in WhatsApp groups and all that, 349 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: and I have a huge amount of guilt around. 350 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Not really engaging in WhatsApp threads. 351 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: I don't know why, but that environment just I don't know, 352 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: it's just it's very overwhelming for me. 353 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: There's just so many people there. 354 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: But then if if we put WhatsApp to one side, 355 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: I'm just not someone who will call a. 356 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Mate and check in or regularly. 357 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: You know, if if I find out a friend's going 358 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: through a tough time, that is when I'll potentially reach out. 359 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: And that's almost disappointing in itself in that also, you 360 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: only reach out to a mate when something's going on, 361 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: Like why can't I be writing more messages to friends 362 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: or call in friends? And I don't know, I don't 363 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: know why I don't do that, and I need to 364 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: fight harder to find the time to do that. 365 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Why do you think you didn't do it? 366 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: I think I'm not really sure. I definitely need to 367 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: just explore this a bit more. I think it comes 368 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: from a place of my natural state is to think 369 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: that my friends don't want to hear from me, right, 370 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: And I know rationally I know haste, but that is 371 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: I know these people are my friends, but I think 372 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: every time I go to reach out to someone, there's 373 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: this fear of rejection that creeps in and I go, well, 374 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear from you like they will. 375 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: I'll go like, oh, they, I guess they haven't reached 376 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: out to you for a while, so like you're It's like, 377 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: on such a basic level, I'm actually making myself vulnerable 378 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: or putting myself out there by reaching out. 379 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: I think that'll be rejected. 380 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: Right. 381 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, again, as. 382 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 4: I say, you see, the friendship is more than what 383 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: they see it as. 384 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 385 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 4: And do you feel as if if you are someone 386 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: because I don't think this is an uncommon phenomenon for adults, 387 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: do you feel as if if you are someone to 388 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: hang out with you that they would like, I don't know, 389 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: not see you as a worthwhile hang totally? 390 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 391 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: And and there'd be a lot of close mates that 392 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: that know this, and I've laughed about it with close mates, 393 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: but it's I'm always the receiver of invitations, yeah, with things, 394 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: and I'm always absolutely up for it. 395 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: But I'm not necessarily the one who goes. 396 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: Hey, let's have a picnic. 397 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly because and I think at a very 398 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 3: basic level. 399 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: Sorry, weird thing to say it, it's a bit of 400 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: a weird one's go for a meal, let's go, don't 401 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: shoot with picnic when you did your telling the water, 402 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: don't with your first one. 403 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: But I think there's this child, there's this little child 404 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: in me that goes, no one wants. 405 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: To have a picnic. 406 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: Did you have a memory like it was there a 407 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: moment as a kid. Do you think where you did 408 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: one of these things and. 409 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 3: You had like a interestingly as a kid, I don't 410 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: think I have ever. 411 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: As a kid you didn't ask somebody over really. 412 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: I would always like it's like I would wait for 413 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: someone else to bring it up, wow, and then be like, 414 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: oh you you want to have a sleepover? Yeah, okay, 415 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: now we can talk about whose house we do it at. 416 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: But I'm not going to be the one to Yeah. 417 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: And that's just a pure like self value thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 418 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 419 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: So that's that's that That is something to work on, 420 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: I think too. To get there. It's it's probably not 421 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: as simple as I would just find the time to 422 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: write messages or reach out to mat I think I 423 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: need to just really navigate that. Why Why am I 424 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: feeling like I'm going to. 425 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Be rejected if I put myself out? 426 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that, or just accept the fact that maybe 427 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 4: you will be rejected. 428 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: And then that's fine if they don't be cool, if 429 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: they can't make it, Yeah, because I think in my head, 430 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: if that happens, it's the end of the world. 431 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. That goes back to then the school. 432 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: Yard, Yeah, which is if you put yourself out and 433 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: get rejected, you're gone. 434 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: You're gone. Lunchtime is going to be a nightmare for you. 435 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: Because you haven't got anyone to hang out with. 436 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: Someone's going to put a sunny boy down your pants potentially. 437 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, mate, thanks for sharing. You really went there. 438 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: It's true that is definitely a thing with you. 439 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 4: But right, yeah, very good, And I'm sure a lot 440 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: of people can empathize as well. There are plenty of 441 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: adults who don't like initiating or initiating things with other adults. 442 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 4: It is a very common thing and I'm sure a 443 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: trait that a lot of people just thinking would be 444 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 4: able to connect with. 445 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: That's why we do vulnerable benzes. 446 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 4: Great stuff mate, right now you can win ten thousand 447 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: bucks with us just telling you it's a good story. 448 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: Will end Woody percent the Scaliest, Tallest t. 449 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 10: Explore Australia's biggest arts festival, Adelaide Fringe f sixteen to 450 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 10: March seventeen. 451 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: Tickets at Adelaide Fringe dot com. 452 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: God ain't you alrighty Woods? 453 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: We got one ticket left for the Wonderland's Beagle Tent 454 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 4: tomorrow nights at the Adelaide Fringe. 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So if you are in Adelaide, by 463 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: the way, come on down, as you said, will Wonderland 464 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: Spiegel ten eight thirty pm, it starts see some extraordinary 465 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: stories and someone winning ten thousand bucks. Yeah, as you said. Also, 466 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: there's one more person who's flights and ACoM. 467 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: We have sorted only one more ticket. 468 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: I need one more ticket to give away. 469 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: And there's a particular story will which way You just think, 470 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: well again, we keep bringing this story up because we 471 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: just think the circumstances in this story are rather extraordinary. 472 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 6: My first job was a Chinese delivery driver. Whenever I 473 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 6: was delivering food I arrived because the Piel's houses, they 474 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 6: always had a bit of a strange to look at 475 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 6: me because I'm basically I got blonde hair, blue eyes 476 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 6: that always looked me like, you know, did you make 477 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 6: the food or you know what's going on here? There 478 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 6: was always a running joke that I was never expected 479 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 6: to be a Chinese delivery driver. One day I had 480 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 6: to deliver food to a hospital and basically the instructors 481 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 6: were delivered to ward e, which is fine. I went 482 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 6: into ward e and big heavy doors I walk in. 483 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 6: I was looking around, going people seem a little strange here, 484 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 6: but you know it's a hospital. What am I to 485 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 6: think about it? So I dropped the food off. I 486 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 6: go to walk out, same big doors and you press 487 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 6: the then doors don't move. So I asked a nurse 488 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 6: next to me. I was like, how do I actually 489 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 6: get out of here? And she says, oh, sweety, you 490 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 6: don't and she walked away. And at that moment I 491 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 6: realized I wasn't a mental ward. 492 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: Oh. 493 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 6: I had to say to her, Oh my god, wait wait, 494 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 6: you don't understand I'm the Chinese delivery driver. Oh look 495 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 6: at me, and she's walked away. 496 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: They're not because you're not rageous. This one's really lost 497 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: enough Chinese delivery. 498 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 6: I sat there with my little Chinese delivery money box, 499 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 6: hoping that please let me out. How do I explain 500 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 6: I'm bossing me so late? 501 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable. 502 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: It's an extraordinary set of circumstances, an extraordinary story, which means, Zach, 503 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 4: you're coming to me. 504 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: Out of like French good guys. 505 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. 506 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 10: That's great. 507 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: Tomorrow night, mate, we're sort in your flights, were sort 508 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: in your a com Zach, and then you will be 509 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: there going up against three other people so hopefully win 510 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: ten thousand bucks. I was gonna quick follow up question, Zach, 511 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: just about your extraordinary story. Sure, were you tasked with 512 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 3: doing like any sort of activity or something when they 513 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: locked you in that ward? 514 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 6: No, they didn't make you pass a test to get out. 515 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 6: I just had to sit there and hope for the best. 516 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: So there wasn't like there wasn't like a moment where 517 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 3: it was like, oh, you actually are telling the truth 518 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: and you are the delivery driver for a Chinese restaurant. 519 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 10: Yeah. 520 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 6: I think they had to go out the back and 521 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 6: just as they check of everyone to say, who does 522 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 6: anyone noticed guys, he's supposed to be there. I don't 523 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 6: think you can't just like trust the word. I guess 524 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 6: so they would have had to do something to figure 525 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 6: it out. 526 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: That's that's the amazing thing. Like if you were in 527 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 3: that ward, of course you'd be saying I shouldn't be 528 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: in this war. 529 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: That's that's what a lot of people makes sense. 530 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: It makes it fascinating. 531 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: It's a great story, Zach. It's a cracking story. Mate. 532 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna do your flights and your accommodation as well. 533 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 4: All thanks to Rex so flying you down to the Adelaide, 534 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: French for tomorrow night at the Wonderland Spiegel ten And 535 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 4: if your story is voted best on the night, you've 536 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: been ten grand. 537 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 6: No, right, this sounds great, Thank you so much. 538 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: Legend. 539 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 4: I think we can all that the foundation of all 540 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 4: all of our health is in our sleep. But I 541 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: think we can all agree that not many of us 542 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: have got it right, not many of us get. 543 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: Enough of it, and we all like a little bit 544 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: more of it. 545 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: Yes, And one person who knows a lot about how 546 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: we can be sleeping better is a man that I 547 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 3: absolutely adore. His name is doctor Michael Moseley, who joins 548 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: us on the show right now. And Michael, I think 549 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: a great first question would be how did you sleep 550 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 3: last night? 551 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 10: Not incredibly well? But I was doing some late night 552 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 10: interviews and then they got up risonbly early to do 553 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 10: this one. 554 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 3: Well, apologies for interrupting your sleep, Michael. 555 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: No, Ronnie, we've got you on to talk about improving 556 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 4: your sleep quality and you look like you've just woken 557 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 4: up on the wrong side of the bed. I love 558 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 4: its welcome our sleep expert, Dr Michael Mosley. 559 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: He can't put two words together. It looks like he's 560 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 2: just being I love that. 561 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: Ah, I love that. 562 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: No, I so, doctor Moseley. This is possibly the most. 563 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: Important thing in our lives in terms of how we 564 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 4: function day to day, in terms of our sex drive, 565 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: our work ethic, in terms of really being the best 566 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 4: versions of ourselves. But it feels as if we don't 567 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 4: know much about it at all. So I know people 568 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: should go and watch the second episode of Austrates Slip 569 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 4: a Revolution on HISBS on demand. But what's the biggest 570 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: take home from you in all the research that you 571 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 4: did across the program. 572 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 10: I think one of the biggest tick coms is that 573 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 10: there are lots of reasons why people sleep badly, and 574 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 10: so the sort of generic advice you tend to get 575 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 10: from your doctor or indeed if you can of Google 576 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 10: it is normally very unhelpful. So most people know if 577 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 10: they drink a gallon of coffee just before they go 578 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 10: to bed, and drink a few pints of beer or 579 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 10: leaders of beer down some wine, that's probably not going 580 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 10: to be great for them. They know that if they're 581 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 10: staying up late look at their phones, that's probably not 582 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 10: great either. But what the series does is it kind 583 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 10: of drills down common sleep problems and how to sort 584 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 10: them out. The tiple ones, for example, are in som 585 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 10: near where you wake up three in the morning worrying 586 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 10: about life, and you assume it's anxiety, but there could 587 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 10: be far more complicated reasons for it. And we also 588 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 10: discovered in the series a lot of people with sleep 589 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 10: at now where they didn't have any idea they had it, 590 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 10: but it could explain why they felt shattered all day. 591 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 592 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: My partner told me that I have sleep apneing just 593 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 4: the other year. Yeah, she was like, you are holding 594 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 4: your breath in your sleep and I went over to 595 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: go and wait, you are because you do that old 596 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: thing right when you look at the clock and you go, 597 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: oh cool, nine hours should be in sparkling form today, 598 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 4: but you're just not there. And then this enters what 599 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 4: I think is comfortably the most interesting thing about sleep chat, 600 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 4: and that is the role that placebo plays in how 601 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: well we feel in the day based on what sort of. 602 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: A sleep we've told ourselves that we've had. 603 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 4: So how did you deal with that as a complicating 604 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: factor within the research? 605 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 10: Sure, so with most of the people, they had been 606 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 10: chronic in some of the acts of some form for 607 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 10: in many cases decades, They've tried everything, none of it 608 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 10: had worked. They didn't have a particular problem with any 609 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 10: sort of proceiver. You get told by somebody and that 610 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 10: if you eat cherries, or you drink milk, or you 611 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 10: don't drink milk. There's lots of advice out there and 612 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 10: based on personal anecdote, and almost none of it actually works. 613 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 10: But it's based as I said, if you believe you're 614 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 10: going to have a good night's sleep, you sleep well. 615 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 10: If you believe you've had a good night sleep, you 616 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 10: tend to sleep well. But none of these people felt 617 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 10: they had had a good night sleep. It was a 618 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 10: proper clinical trial thirty people, and I think most people 619 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 10: kind of know if they've had decent sleep or not. 620 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 3: When you are making little tweaks to your sleep routine, 621 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: how long you should try something for before making a 622 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: decision as to whether it's working for you or not 623 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: working to you. Because off my hand up and say 624 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 3: that I can be very very guilty of whether it's 625 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: do is sleep or health fitness. And I feel like 626 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: I'll do it once and be like, oh no, it 627 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: didn't feel great. I won't do that ever again. 628 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 10: Absolutely. I mean there's things like I would generally recommend 629 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 10: sticking to it for a week and see if that 630 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 10: makes a difference or not. Maybe two weeks on the whole. 631 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 10: It takes a while for your brain to readjust to 632 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 10: the new things you're doing. What some of the things 633 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 10: take a bit longer. One of the things that is 634 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 10: in the series, I've actually written a book called Four 635 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 10: Weeks to Better Sleep, which is kind of based on 636 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 10: all the stuff I've learned about sleep and one things 637 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 10: there is something called the bedtime restriction therapy, where you 638 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 10: actually cut the number of hours you spend in bed 639 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 10: because what you're trying to do is retrain your brain 640 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 10: to associate bed with sleep and sex and nothing else. 641 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 10: And the problem. 642 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: Many doctor Michael, Have you got four Weeks to Better 643 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 4: Sex as well? 644 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 10: Or that's the next bestsellersiration look. 645 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: Forward to it. 646 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 10: Yeah. 647 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: And a little battle I'm having at home, Michael, to 648 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: do with sleep is the cat Lenny comes into the 649 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: bedroom when we're trying to sleep. My first argument was 650 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: I feel like the cat by the cat's movement is 651 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: waking me up during the night. But my most recent 652 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: which she thinks is BS, is that I think the 653 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: cat is contributing to the amount of carbon dioxide in 654 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: the air and that could be impact in my sleep. 655 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: Is there any merit to that argument, Doctor Michael Mostyn, 656 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: damn it nice. 657 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: I'm I'm glad we've stuck a fork in that. Next question, 658 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: And again I'm asking this question on behalf of my fiance. 659 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 4: But I am a very good sleeper. I go to 660 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: sleep very easily. I wake up like I've just been 661 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: in like a time machine. Oh god, it's the morning. 662 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 4: Like nothing really impacts me. But while I am asleep, 663 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 4: I'm incredibly obnoxious. So like I'm elbows, I'm sleep apnear gasping. 664 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: As a result, we had to get like a king bed. 665 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: We've slept in separate donners just so she can get 666 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: the sleep that she needs next to me effectively. And 667 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 4: we do want to keep the same bed thing going 668 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 4: on because we're on that four weeks to Better sex pathway. 669 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: So what would you recommend if your partner is, you know, 670 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: a really tough person to sleep next to and you 671 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: really struggle being in the same bed as them. 672 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, you know, some people opt for a sleep divorce, 673 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 10: and that means they go and sleep in another bedroom 674 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 10: if they got another bedroom they can go into, and 675 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 10: that's becoming an increasingly popular thing. I mean, my wife 676 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 10: is a paras on yet sleepwalker, sleep talker. She kind 677 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 10: of climbs over me and she looks under the bed 678 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 10: for patients and in the cupboard for patients. Wow, it's 679 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 10: also inherited one of my sons. But he was weird 680 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 10: because when you work and Q said hijack, he would 681 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 10: answer in a fixed Scottish action. If you think you 682 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 10: might have sleep at now, it's worth recording yourself and 683 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 10: it's worth doing something about it, because sleep at me 684 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 10: is very bad for your brain, your heart and everything else. 685 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: My dad's hooked out to a full on oxygen scene. 686 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: He's nowhere with four weeks to better sex, like trying 687 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: to have sex with Darth Vader. 688 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: Four decades to better six. 689 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: Hey Michael. 690 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: Another thing which is really front of mine for a 691 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: lot of people is you see social or media influencers 692 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: talking about sleep supplements, things that you can take before 693 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: bed to give you a great night sleep. What's your 694 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: position on any supplements that are out there to help 695 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: with sleep. 696 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 10: I think they mainly Procibo. It's one of those things 697 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 10: that if you believe they're going to work, they probably 698 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 10: will work. There's not a great deal of evidence some 699 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 10: evidents around taking magnesium, but pretty well everything else is 700 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 10: you know, who knows. If you sort of believe it works, 701 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 10: it might work. No strong events at all for most. 702 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: Supplements and melatonin included in. 703 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 10: That melatonin I guess you. I don't think of a 704 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 10: supplement more as a kind of hormone, but yeah, a melatonin, 705 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 10: particularly jet lag. But it's not sort of a magical 706 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 10: cure that many people believe. That said friend of mine 707 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 10: who's the doctor in Australia. Yeah, melatonin was the only 708 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 10: thing that sorted out her chronic sleep problems. So it's 709 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 10: amazingly individual though obviously in Australia. 710 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: In the UK, that's right, you can't get over the counter. Yeah. 711 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: Hey, Michael, I'm also a huge fan of your podcast. 712 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: Just one thing, so I wouldn't mind doing to you 713 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: what you do to your guests, even outside of the 714 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: world of sleep. With all the experts that you speak 715 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 3: to on that podcast and everything you're learning there, what 716 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: would you say is one change that you've made to 717 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: your routine in health, fitness or sleep or whatever that 718 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: you think has had the most positive impact. 719 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 10: I think it probably slow deep breathing. So I do 720 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 10: something called four to two four, where you breathe in 721 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 10: through your nose to kind of four, hold it for two, 722 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 10: and then out through your mouth to kind of four, 723 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 10: And that is brilliant when you're feeling stressed. It's really 724 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 10: good at three in the morning, when you're awake worrying 725 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 10: about life. And it's really really simple. You do a 726 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 10: minute or so of it, maybe two minutes, and it 727 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 10: slows your heart rate down. It activates something called your 728 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 10: parasympathetic nervous system, which is like the breaking system on 729 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 10: the body. It reflects what people who do yoga have 730 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 10: known for a thousand years and more, that slow, deep 731 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 10: breathing is a fantastic tool if you want to reduce anxiety. 732 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 4: Brilliant to Michael Mosley, always just a wealth of knowledge. 733 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: The second episode of Australia Sleep Revolution with Doctor Michael 734 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: Mosley Tonight, seven thirtys and SBS on demand. And I 735 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: hear that Barnaby Joyce is going to be one of 736 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: the people that you're going to be conducting some experiments on. 737 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing how that goes. How was Barnaby? 738 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 10: Thank you? He would really knack it out to say, 739 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 10: they were quite brave. We got a bunch of politicians 740 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 10: from across the political divide and inserting ourselves, so to speak, 741 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 10: into their bedrooms. We've got lots of devices under their beds. 742 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 10: When I interviewed Barnaby, he was looking pretty shattert that 743 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 10: long the end of a long session. He was very 744 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 10: brave for them to let us measure all the things 745 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 10: about them. No surprise, he wasn't in the best shape 746 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 10: when we interviewed him. 747 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: No it tonight, right, love you to talk to you. 748 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on the show. Good luck. 749 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: Hey Woods. 750 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 4: Not sure if you've seen this story, but a flight 751 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: that was in on the way from Sandiago in Chili 752 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 4: plunged out of the sky. Oh my lord, boeing seven 753 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 4: eight seven and seventy two people on board and it 754 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 4: landed in Auckland in New Zealand. 755 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh fait Ingham. 756 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's okay. They landed the plane about an hour afterwards. 757 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 4: About thirteen people were taking the hospital though four of 758 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 4: them Rosi's actually and basically it dropped out of the sky, 759 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 4: so yeah. People were sort of like smashed into the 760 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: ceiling of the cabin and they're bloodied and bruised and 761 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 4: really hectic, terrific. 762 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. 763 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 3: But LJ she's scared of flying, so she's loving hearing this. 764 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, loving it. I'm ecstatic. We're flying to Adelaide. 765 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 10: Tomorraw brilliant stuff. 766 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: That's that's do to you. 767 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: Well, you did drop to your knees on the tar 768 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 4: make though as well. She did right after my toddler 769 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 4: fell down next to you. 770 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: A bit of turbulence, the smallest bit of turbulence you 771 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: can imagine LJ on her knees. 772 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: I think Max was still standing at that point when 773 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: l J dropped. 774 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 4: Anyway, Look, so this plane dropped out of the sky 775 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 4: and all these people are badly injured, and what they're 776 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 4: going to do, obviously now, is they look at this 777 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 4: thing called the black box. 778 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: This might this might be a silly question. 779 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 3: The box actually blank? 780 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: I don't actually know. Good question that, So. 781 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense, I assume. So if it's a 782 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 3: black box, it'd be particularly hard to find. Why mightn't 783 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: you make it like a very bright color? 784 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: A good question, very very good question. I think it's orange. 785 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 4: Actually, it might be called a black box because all 786 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 4: the information. 787 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: Is black or dark or mysterious. 788 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 4: Previously like it's hidden. Well, why do you know what 789 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 4: the black box does? Right? 790 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: So it records all the information from the flight. 791 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 4: So when a plane goes down, they can they can 792 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 4: and grab the box and they can find out exactly 793 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: what happened to the plane. 794 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: Get that, because they don't know right now what happened 795 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: on this plane. 796 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 3: Sure, hence why finding the black box is a great 797 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: thing to do. But I just think if it's called 798 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: a black box and everyone's going, all right, guys, we're 799 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 3: here to look for a black box, just let us 800 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 3: know you find it, I think there's a world out 801 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: there where you find an orange box and going, well, 802 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 3: it's not that throw that, throw that away. 803 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: I feel like they know I don't know. 804 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 4: No, well, you're you, thankfully are not looking through airplash 805 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 4: air crash investigations. 806 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: That's fair. 807 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm grateful about that. 808 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: That's fair. 809 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: I think that would know before they got there. Guys, 810 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: it's called a black box, but it's actually orange. 811 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: Less than one the black boxes. Orange Aviation would know 812 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: that little did bit. 813 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: We have to look it up, but everyone else knows. 814 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 4: Okay, So they're looking at this box, right and once 815 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 4: they get they've got the box. Once they open that box, 816 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 4: I feel like, right now they have got the most 817 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 4: anticipated box to open in. 818 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 2: The whole world. 819 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Oh so you can fire what actually happened. 820 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 4: But right now they sitting on the most anticipated box 821 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 4: opening in the whole world, And I would like to 822 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 4: know if anyone's got a challenge to that. 823 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 2: Thirty one o six five. 824 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 4: I would absolutely love to hear from you. Have you 825 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 4: got a box that you haven't opened and you're willing 826 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 4: to open it on air? 827 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 10: Oh? 828 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: What's in the box? 829 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: What kind of situation? Would you have a box where 830 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 3: you haven't opened it? 831 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 4: A parcel like a mystery parcel delivered like delivered to 832 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 4: the wrong person. 833 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: And you've just kept it in your house. 834 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: You might you might have found one of those time capsules. 835 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 4: Oh you're digging, you just digging, and there was a founder. 836 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 4: You found a box in your backyard under under some. 837 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 3: Soil, maybe someone maybe someone passed away. 838 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 4: Giving you a key to a safety deposit box and 839 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 4: you're still and you don't know what's in there. 840 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: All these would be great. 841 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 4: They'd all be amazing. Thirteen one oh six five. Have 842 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 4: you got a box you haven't opened and you are 843 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 4: willing to open it on air? 844 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 3: Kind of sayd on that black box front again, someone's 845 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 3: panicking because oh, yeah, someone's the product. 846 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah they've probably done something. Well they don't know, we 847 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: don't know. 848 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 3: But if if one of Ma's fallen as leep or 849 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: something in the black box is going to pick up 850 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 3: on that anyway. You do you want a mystery box? 851 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 10: Yeah? 852 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want a mystery box. They don't want to 853 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 4: six five if you've got one. Analsa is in the studio, Yes. 854 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 3: Because Analse pulled me aside earlier today and she told 855 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 3: me she's got a mystery box. 856 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: Wow, Anlys have a mystery box. 857 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: Do you want to share that with Will? Yes? 858 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 7: So when I was about in year five or six, sorry, 859 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 7: when I was in year five were you six? 860 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 9: I was with a friend and we decided to make 861 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 9: a time capsule. 862 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,959 Speaker 2: Ah, and it is. 863 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 7: Buried in my backyard to this day and right I 864 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 7: was actually going to dig it up on the weekend. 865 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 9: However, my dad wouldn't let me do it because it 866 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 9: wrecked the grass. 867 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 3: So I have to get a middle. 868 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: I can understand that because so and you don't know have. 869 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 2: We opened it yet? Who knows still there? 870 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: And you don't even know what's in there? No idea. 871 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 9: I can't remember. 872 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 2: I know once how old were you? How old were 873 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: you when you put it in the. 874 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 9: Ground, probably like eleven or twelve, twenty three? Just for context, 875 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 9: over ten years. 876 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 3: If you can take yourself back to eleven year old Analse, 877 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 3: what what do you think eleven year old Anales would 878 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 3: have thought was crucial to keep underground for ten years. 879 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 7: Maybe a photo of one direction potentially, maybe a letter, 880 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 7: a letter, And I was quite creative then, So I 881 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,959 Speaker 7: do remember I was with my friend and we were 882 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 7: sitting at the table doing. 883 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 2: Arts, writing, painted macaroni. 884 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 7: Potentially, So there could be like my deepest darkest secrets 885 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 7: in a letter, or there could just be a macaroni necklace. 886 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 9: Who knows, who knows? 887 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 3: It's a poster of one direction and a macaroni necklace. 888 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: The bigger anticottslop. 889 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 9: I mean I started to get my one direction post around. 890 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 4: Flop in mystery box history. I was hoping for a 891 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 4: safety deposit box at the bank. But we've got Analysia's 892 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 4: time capsule from what twenty and thirteen? 893 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 9: Is it twenty eleven or twenty eleven? 894 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: So Union said it could be the deepest darker secret. 895 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: What is that? 896 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 9: Probably my crush at the time went as muffle again. 897 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: It's a bit