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Speaker 2: Will Smith is having a bit of a hard time lately,
Speaker 2: don't you think.
Speaker 3: What since the slap at the hot things He's brought
Speaker 3: on himself most of it, I mean, the slab was
Speaker 3: pretty bad, but okay, the whole you know what.
Speaker 4: The Red Table is that Jada, his wife does where
Speaker 4: they sit around and they i mean a lot of
Speaker 4: the time they seem to hash out some of their
Speaker 4: family stuff that really shouldn't be hashed out in public.
Speaker 2: It's a chat show, but it's like a personal therapy session.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. So recently there was a conversation
Speaker 4: that happened on there with Will Smith's daughter and also
Speaker 4: her brother, so Jaden and Willow, and they were talking
Speaker 4: about all this resentment that they had towards their mostly
Speaker 4: towards their dad, towards will from their childhood, and Will
Speaker 4: went on to talk about how much he regretted his
Speaker 4: parenting of them when they were younger, this is what
Speaker 4: Willow had to say.
Speaker 5: I definitely had to forgive you and Daddy, you know,
Speaker 5: for that whole with my hair thing. It was mostly
Speaker 5: Daddy because she was so like harsh right at certain times.
Speaker 5: It was like a couple of years honestly, like trying
Speaker 5: to regain trust for not feeling like I wasn't listened
Speaker 5: to or no one cared what I felt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So this is talking about how both Jaden
Speaker 4: and Willow were really thrust into the spotlight as young kids.
Speaker 4: They were so successful in their own ride, but they've
Speaker 4: come out now as adults saying that they actually never
Speaker 4: wanted to be in the spotlight. You might remember Willow
Speaker 4: had that hugely successful song I whip my hair back
Speaker 4: and forth.
Speaker 1: I went with her hair back and forth. I went
Speaker 1: my hair back and forth.
Speaker 2: So she eleven.
Speaker 4: She was ten years old when that came out, and
Speaker 4: then she was touring it when she was eleven. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if this was very widely
Speaker 4: reported on the time, but during the tour she wanted
Speaker 4: to cancel it, she wanted to stop touring. So as
Speaker 4: an eleven year old, she said, you know, Dad, I
Speaker 4: don't want to be doing this anymore, and Will made
Speaker 4: her can con tinue the tour, and so she shaved
Speaker 4: her own head in protests because she so desperately didn't
Speaker 4: want to be doing that tour. And then also Jayden
Speaker 4: was in things like Pursuit of Happiness. He was only
Speaker 4: eight years old and he was starring alongside his dad.
Speaker 4: And basically Will has come out now with adult kids,
Speaker 4: and he said that he thought the picture of happiness
Speaker 4: that he thought he saw for himself, the picture of
Speaker 4: being perfect parenting, was to be able to set them
Speaker 4: up for them to have the successes that he always
Speaker 4: dreamed of for himself. And so he really pushed them
Speaker 4: into the spotlight and pushed them into being child stars,
Speaker 4: even though no part of them wanted to live that life.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's this idea of being famous equals success.
Speaker 3: It allows happiness, but it doesn't. You hear a lot
Speaker 3: of people, a lot of famous people, a lot of
Speaker 3: Hollywood people. They especially the child stars you can look.
Speaker 3: You could name so many, Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears. They
Speaker 3: all had some really.
Speaker 2: Big issues in their life because they were pushed into
Speaker 2: it too young.
Speaker 4: Well, it makes you think, at what point was it
Speaker 4: the kids that wanted to get into it at the start,
Speaker 4: but then their careers take off and there's this huge trajectory.
Speaker 4: There's so much interest in then they got from doing
Speaker 4: something that they love doing, which might be performing, into
Speaker 4: it becoming a career, and then there's all the responsibilities.
Speaker 4: They're being forced to not be kids and to grow
Speaker 4: up almost instantaneously. At what point do you allow your
Speaker 4: kid to get off the treadmill? You know, if they
Speaker 4: say I have had enough now, this has gone too far.
Speaker 4: If the balls rolling and they're making all this money
Speaker 4: and their successes are going from strength to strength, when
Speaker 4: do you let the kid just be a kid?
Speaker 1: Give? But I'd also argue that it has set them
Speaker 1: up for life. We know who they are. They'll never
Speaker 1: have to work another day in their life.
Speaker 2: For when they were a kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they've worked when the very kids. But I mean,
Speaker 1: when you're a kid, what's the difference between being forced
Speaker 1: to put out a song and with your hair back
Speaker 1: and forth and my parents forcing me to play junior
Speaker 1: soccer that I hated and detested and cried every day.
Speaker 1: I'm being serious, Like, I still have a bit of
Speaker 1: resentment for them forcing me to do that. It's the same,
Speaker 1: just on a different magnitude.
Speaker 4: Their scale is so much different though, because I think
Speaker 4: it's not just around the activity forcing kid to do
Speaker 4: their activity. It's the notoriety. It's being a household name.
Speaker 4: It's not being able to walk down the street without people.
Speaker 1: Knowing soccer the local area. I really knew who I was,
Speaker 1: I Laura, it was terrible.
Speaker 2: Oh bless.
Speaker 3: I imagine the situation with Will and Willow at the time,
Speaker 3: and why he probably forced her to keep going.
Speaker 2: Is logistically speaking, the tickets would have sold.
Speaker 3: That flow on effect of pulling and tied to it
Speaker 3: would be something that's very long lasting and detrimental to his.
Speaker 2: To her career.
Speaker 3: So I imagine Will as a dad, was like, I
Speaker 3: get it, but you've committed follow through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hold on. So Will regrets it now? Laura,
Speaker 1: You've you've got kids, and your kids are on your
Speaker 1: social media? Is the only part of you that regrets
Speaker 1: putting them out there? And you know getting baby clothes.
Speaker 4: Now that Huggies campaign that we did when Marley was
Speaker 4: three months old?
Speaker 1: Did you do that?
Speaker 4: I mean my kids? I mean, okay, this sounds so
Speaker 4: bad coming off the back of this. But my kids
Speaker 4: have done different jobs, like brand jobs, which they get
Speaker 4: paid for, and all that money is sitting in an
Speaker 4: account for them somewhere.
Speaker 6: But yeah, she's like in the Caymans, we're not paying
Speaker 6: anybody on it. No, but it's sitting there for when
Speaker 6: they are adults and then they can tap into it.
Speaker 6: But there's absolutely parts of this that makes me think, well,
Speaker 6: are they going to turn around when they're thirteen years
Speaker 6: old and say, why was my face on that campaign?
Speaker 1: Stopes in protests?
Speaker 2: There's a difference. No, there's a difference with this.
Speaker 3: I think a three months old in a nappy on
Speaker 3: an ad because it's not like you.
Speaker 2: Were there going crawl baby crawl like you were.
Speaker 3: It was going to sit there in the nappy regardless.
Speaker 3: But I think it's different when you're eleven. You have
Speaker 3: a bit more autonomy over what you want and you're like,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm viscerally uncomfortable with it.
Speaker 2: So it's good that Will has come out and acknowledged.
Speaker 2: She's like, Yep, I messed up. Wasn't great?
Speaker 6: I regret that.
Speaker 2: I love to see the accountability.
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