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Speaker 1: As you've just heard.

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Speaker 2: We caught up with Matt Cunningham from Sky News who'd

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Speaker 2: been out at the Daily River region yesterday. It's a

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Speaker 2: The Chief Minister joins me in the studio right now.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you evil Lordla morning. Thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for your time now, Chief Minister. The NLC chair Matthew

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Speaker 2: Ryan said yesterday that well, on Tuesday last week, he'd

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Speaker 2: made several phone calls to alert the police and local

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Speaker 2: ministers about community members after they'd reached out to the

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Speaker 2: NLC afraid of what might happen. He said, our alert

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Speaker 2: was not taken seriously enough and over the forty eight

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Speaker 2: hours that followed, people were terrorized, they were injured, houses destroyed.

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Speaker 2: Did the government drop the ball.

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Speaker 1: So, Katie, Yes, I think the NLC had a regional

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Speaker 1: and Duran Young was the local member was also out there.

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Speaker 1: We all received information at that time, but the deployment

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Speaker 1: of resources is a role for the Police Commissioner. The

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Speaker 1: police had information are very much aware of the situation.

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Speaker 1: They had their police on the ground out there, so

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Speaker 1: there were police I understand from Adelaide River, from Pine

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Speaker 1: of Territory Families and a number of public servants, key

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Speaker 1: public servants are heading out to Daily River this week

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Speaker 1: but also to see what they can put in place around.

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Speaker 1: And I did hear Matt's conversation, I mean Matt's interview.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. There has been ongoing, ongoing unrest across that region

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Speaker 1: But again it's apparent behavior. It's ridiculous behavior to see that,

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Speaker 2: Top of look, I to be honest with you, really

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Speaker 2: I cannot imagine being a senior woman in the community

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely shocking behavior. When I was the Education minister,

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Speaker 1: So at Dally River there isn't a government school. It's

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Speaker 1: that's just ridiculous behavior. Daily River has always been a

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Speaker 2: Chief Finister, you know, I don't really want to name

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Speaker 1: So from the Daily River through that Daily River incident,

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Speaker 2: And is there any update on the posting and boasting legislation?

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Speaker 1: So we're not going to be bringing in posting and

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Speaker 2: Just very quickly. We know the Northern land Land Council

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Speaker 2: The Police Minister had said in the press conference what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Katie, I think. I mean the message that

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Speaker 2: Look I'll move along because there is so much to cover,

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Speaker 1: And I think we all understand and know that the

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Speaker 1: But also the two women's prisons are two areas that

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Speaker 2: Do we need to get them out sooner? We need

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so's you know, that's the absolute work that the

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Speaker 2: not going to be contributing to the ongoing patrols. I

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Speaker 1: Well, it'll will be four hundred thousand dollars difficult. So

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Speaker 1: So it was a decision of the counselors. So obviously

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Speaker 1: It is the shopping district. Of course, the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: frustrates me immensely because that's four hundred thousand that you're

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister, we're fast running out of time, but you

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Speaker 2: I understand it, two hundred million dollars invested in budget

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Speaker 1: So Katie, we know that we need to have more

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Speaker 1: the population. I literally have just come from the Defense

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Speaker 1: I'm announcing today around the Holt subdivision. So forty three

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Speaker 1: million dollars in budget twenty four to deliver the Holtz project.

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Speaker 1: And it's really good news because it's two territory companies,

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Speaker 1: the successful tender. So it's Halketas Brothers group, so Halketas.

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Speaker 1: is great news, really good news.

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Speaker 2: Jave Minester. I know that not everybody is thrilled about

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Speaker 2: the number of lots out there at Holts. Some of

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Speaker 2: those that live out in the rural area want to

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Speaker 2: keep it rural. I mean, how small are these blocks

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Speaker 2: going to be?

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Speaker 1: So again that will be up to the Holtz Land

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Speaker 1: Company around that, but there will be five percent will

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Speaker 1: be held for social housing, so five percent of those lots.

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Speaker 1: But those lots will be urban, suburban sized lots. So

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Speaker 1: it is a fact, and that's what the planners will

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Speaker 1: tell you. You need to have, you know, suburban lots,

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Speaker 1: not leap frogging development. You need to have that. We've

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Speaker 1: got a new hospital there, we've got a new fire station,

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Speaker 1: new police stations, two new schools at Sekoli. That land

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Speaker 1: is residential land and.

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Speaker 2: Will they fall under the Palmerston municipality or will they

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Speaker 2: fall under Lichfield.

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Speaker 1: That's the million dollars That land is currently on that

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Speaker 1: side of the highway is Lichfield land. That will be

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Speaker 1: a decision for the future around and that will be

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Speaker 1: local government minister will make that decision.

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Speaker 2: But so not sort of in this term of government.

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Speaker 1: No, Well, as I said, we haven't even built the suburbs,

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Speaker 1: so that work will be happening. But I think most

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Speaker 1: of those people will use the services in Parmesan. They'll

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Speaker 1: go to the Palmeston Library, the Palmeston Swell Center. But

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Speaker 1: will allow I'll allow the whoever's the land minister, that's sorry,

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Speaker 1: the local government minister to make that.

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Speaker 2: Really really quick one because we do have to head

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Speaker 2: to the news. But the ant they spoke to us

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Speaker 2: yesterday they've welcomed this announcement by the Commonwealth Government to

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Speaker 2: mandate the sharing of road safety data to drive down

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Speaker 2: road trauma. We are going to be speaking to the

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Speaker 2: Federal Transport Minister Catherine King on the show tomorrow. Is

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory government going to commit to sharing that data.

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Speaker 1: I happy to share that data, but the thing is

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Speaker 1: I need to know you know, and I've said this

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Speaker 1: for what purpose? So there was deligations from NT that

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Speaker 1: we'd be pork barreling around roads money. It's absolutely what they.

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Speaker 2: Said to us was that they wanted that data so

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Speaker 2: that everybody could be sure that it's going into the

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Speaker 2: areas that it's absolutely required.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well it is. I can assure territories it is

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Speaker 1: so that road data is some of it is already

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Speaker 1: available anyway. By the way, it is available on the

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Speaker 1: Road Safety website. But Northern Territory Government uses any coronial

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Speaker 1: information to make sure that we implement the recommendations from

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Speaker 1: those coronials. The territory has still has seventy percent of

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Speaker 1: our roads at a dirt. We continue to roll out

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Speaker 1: bitchamen across the territory, and I have a minister as

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Speaker 1: Minister for Transport, probably delivered more bitchamen than any minister previously.

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Speaker 2: Well, Chief Minister evil all that we are going to

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Speaker 2: have to leave it there, Thank you. As always for

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Speaker 2: your time. Thank you, thank you,