Speaker 1: Hello, Peter Helly. He welcome to you Ain't seen nothing
Speaker 1: yet the Movie Podcast. We're our chat to a movie
Speaker 1: lover about a classic or beloved movie they haven't quite
Speaker 1: got around to watching until now. And today's guests comedian
Speaker 1: Mike Goldstein, all below. I want to stay here with you.
Speaker 2: He's the jobble my hate sneake sucked.
Speaker 1: Hi hail, They couldn't haven't any right now?
Speaker 3: You ain't seen nothing.
Speaker 1: Mike Goldstein is not in Kansas anymore. Yes, Mike is
Speaker 1: becoming one of my favorite Americans. He moved out here
Speaker 1: years ago. I'm not even sure exactly what brought him me.
Speaker 1: If it was love or if it was to pursue
Speaker 1: comedy outside of America in Australia why not. But Mike
Speaker 1: has been absolutely dominating the local scene. He is a
Speaker 1: razor sharp, his edgy, his funny audiences. You would have
Speaker 1: seen him on TV on shows like Tonightly Hughesy We
Speaker 1: have a problem. But more recently, over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, he's been killing it on the one hundred
Speaker 1: with Andy Lee. It's a really fun show. Audiences loving it.
Speaker 1: It's back for us like fourth or fifth season, and
Speaker 1: Mike is I guess a team captain or he's on
Speaker 1: at least every second week. Him and Sophie Monk share
Speaker 1: the duties, and I had the opportunity to do an
Speaker 1: episode within recently which will be out in the future,
Speaker 1: and it was just great fun hanging out with him.
Speaker 1: He's a comic that I've watched a lot, and we've
Speaker 1: been backstage a bit, but I haven't really had a
Speaker 1: lot of time to genuine hangs, so I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to this. He has a podcast called The Phone Hacks,
Speaker 1: which we might discuss a little bit later on because
Speaker 1: I was involved inadvertently in one of his episodes. But
Speaker 1: Mike is a big movie fan, so I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to this. He, like I said, is razor sharp. He's
Speaker 1: a real comedy joke writer. Like he's a real craftsman
Speaker 1: with his stand up and I'm stoked to be hanging
Speaker 1: with him today.
Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, my name is Mike Goldstein, and my three
Speaker 4: favorite films are The Thing You Tie upon Rober.
Speaker 3: Here, we're gonna draw a little bit of everybody's blood.
Speaker 3: We're going to find out who's the thing. Watching Norris
Speaker 3: and There gave me the idea of it. Maybe every
Speaker 3: part of him was a whole. Every little piece is
Speaker 3: an individual animal with a built in desire to protect
Speaker 3: its own life. You see, when a man bleeds, it's
Speaker 3: just tissue, my blood from one of you things on
Speaker 3: to bay when it's attacked.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to survive, uh far ago.
Speaker 5: I'd be very surprised if I suspect was from Brainerd. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I tell you what from his footprint, he looks
Speaker 5: like a big fella.
Speaker 1: You see something down there, Chief, No, I just think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna burw jeez you okay, Margie, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm fine, it's just morning sickness.
Speaker 2: Well that passed and back to the future.
Speaker 6: When this baby hits hedy a b prour here we
Speaker 6: got to see some serious ship.
Speaker 4: Up until this week, I had never seen the Big Chill.
Speaker 1: That you want.
Speaker 6: How wonder.
Speaker 1: I'll chose to make yes. Rarely has a movie been
Speaker 1: so entwined with its soundtrack as nineteen eighty three's The
Speaker 1: Big Chill from the opening chords of Marvin Gaye's timeless classic,
Speaker 1: I heard it through the grapevine. We feel in safe hands.
Speaker 1: Seven college friends are reunited under somber circumstances in South
Speaker 1: Carolina after their friend Alex's suicide. Alex played by young
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner in the performance that was completely cut from
Speaker 1: the finished film. What follows is a weekend of sex, drugs,
Speaker 1: and motown, as well as facing up to the people
Speaker 1: they have become and wondering if the younger, more idealistic
Speaker 1: selves would forgive them. Yes, adulthood is fun. Fresh off
Speaker 1: riding a couple of sleeper indie hits, namely The Empire
Speaker 1: Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost, Dark Rider and Now,
Speaker 1: director Lawrence Kasden gets more personal here, and he gets
Speaker 1: to do so with a stellar cast Glenn Close, who
Speaker 1: nabbed the film's only Oscar nomination, Kevin Klein, William Hurt,
Speaker 1: Jeff Goldblue, Mary kay Place, Tom Berenger, and Joe Beth Williams.
Speaker 1: The Big Chill somehow remains delightful despite its grim subject matter.
Speaker 1: Mike Goldstein, you're an American? You grab in America? Did
Speaker 1: you grow up on reruns of J T. Lancer?
Speaker 4: I mean, I did appreciate the magnum Pi reference to this.
Speaker 4: I have a shitty mustache, as you can say, and
Speaker 4: that is definitely a magnum Pi influenced and I wish
Speaker 4: you know, JT Lancer seemed like the more hedonistic magnum p.
Speaker 4: I yes, and so I mean if we had J T. Lancer,
Speaker 4: I would have been watching the shit.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would still watch J T. Lancer. If
Speaker 1: they want to make a reboot JD. Lancer, I am
Speaker 1: here for it. Mike, Thanks for joining us this podcast.
Speaker 1: You know you just say this at the end of
Speaker 1: country fimement. You've watched a film for us, And thanks
Speaker 1: for making the time out of your busy schedule doing gigs,
Speaker 1: your own podcasts, but are recording one hundred. It's all
Speaker 1: going on for my Cal's thing. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: The Big Chili is such an American film, even though
Speaker 1: it's very universal. Why hadn't you seen it?
Speaker 4: It's just one of those ones that slipped by, Like
Speaker 4: I'd seen the other ensemble eighties movies, saying Elmo's Fire
Speaker 4: Breakfast Club, this one maybe eighty three was a little
Speaker 4: too far.
Speaker 2: Back from me. And I knew my old man loves
Speaker 2: this film.
Speaker 1: Right, It's a much loved film, this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And to him, I think it was like his Avengers.
Speaker 4: You know, It's like all these huge actors at the
Speaker 4: time like covering a other and you know, like it's
Speaker 4: it's very dialogue heavy, and he was, you know, always
Speaker 4: I knew he loved this, he raved about it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I was only born in eighty so like I was
Speaker 4: not provy to it, and I knew of the insane
Speaker 4: Kevin Costner thing, so that always like piqued my interest.
Speaker 4: And it's just like I do love eighties movies, as
Speaker 4: you can tell by one of my picks. And yeah,
Speaker 4: I just feel like I do like an ensemble film
Speaker 4: and this one had just been a glaring omission and that.
Speaker 1: Well it was a glaring omission for me as well.
Speaker 1: I'd never seen I was so thrilled when you suggested
Speaker 1: this because I mean, I mean I've almost watched it
Speaker 1: on my own time. Yeah, and I still could have
Speaker 1: easily done that obviously, And I had done an occasion
Speaker 1: with movies that I wanted to see, but I thought,
Speaker 1: I'm going to wait till somebody picks this. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is loom large in my mind because people do connect
Speaker 1: with this film. I think there is there is a
Speaker 1: palet in this film. That is how we both feel
Speaker 1: about it, particularly you because you've watched it for the
Speaker 1: first time and being a bit younger than my good self.
Speaker 1: See how it hits for you. Let's talk about your
Speaker 1: three favorite films, good films. The Thing is a beauty.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the Thing has come up in
Speaker 1: our three favorite films it should.
Speaker 4: I think it was on the list that you sent me.
Speaker 4: And then in one of my emails back, I said,
Speaker 4: if anyone hasn't seen the Thing, they can't claim to
Speaker 4: like movies.
Speaker 1: That's what I love about this podcast. Yeah, people have
Speaker 1: like violent reactions to their favorite things.
Speaker 4: Well, the fact that Nick Cody hadn't seen Back to
Speaker 4: the Future, it's ridiculous. And he dresses like Marty mcclyd.
Speaker 4: He wears a vest all the time. And I see
Speaker 4: Hi mc ggigs and I'm like, you, Marty mcly look
Speaker 4: a dipshit And he's like, oh, I only just watched it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what, how the hell did that miss you?
Speaker 4: You know, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Judith Lushy like grew up, you know, Catholicism, hanging up.
Speaker 1: It almost became a nun. She's a Sinophile. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: she'd never seen the sound of music like that. This
Speaker 1: made no sense to me, So it is I think
Speaker 1: that's the hidden superpower of this these podcast is it's
Speaker 1: like you were always like the reaction when I say
Speaker 1: I could say to somebody, Mike als is coming into
Speaker 1: the big Chill. What they'll have a movie that they
Speaker 1: haven't seen that's surprising. But do you think that, well,
Speaker 1: we'll get into don't think the big chills out there
Speaker 1: in the future. I think I think Cody's Cody and
Speaker 1: Judith Flushy and Sam Pang would never seen the Castle
Speaker 1: whilst working with the people who made the castle. They're
Speaker 1: the clubhouse leaders.
Speaker 4: As far as he should be fired from work and
Speaker 4: dog he's just for that.
Speaker 1: Reason he should and and and the logies.
Speaker 2: Well, we all saw the monologue.
Speaker 1: I Love you Sam Nable again two from two two
Speaker 1: and two. Let's tell what you three films out So
Speaker 1: the thing about the thing, So it's a cracker.
Speaker 2: It's the best.
Speaker 4: It's like an absolute master class and paranoia and tension
Speaker 4: and uh, practical effects, everything about it. I mean just
Speaker 4: you know, it's sci fi and horror and Kurt Russell
Speaker 4: I think career best performance. I I can't really fault
Speaker 4: anything about the movie at all. And then I was thinking,
Speaker 4: because you know, on the way up here. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I knew you're gonna ask three favorite films. And I
Speaker 4: was like, what if I threw you a curveball? And
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, it's actually the twenty and eleven
Speaker 4: thing that I.
Speaker 1: Love Legend and Mary Wednesday.
Speaker 4: Wednesday, Yeah, like that one. And I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't even know there was an older one.
Speaker 1: I saw that. I think we may have had to
Speaker 1: watch it for the interview on TV or radio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't mind. It did not mind. Like I thought it
Speaker 1: was a reasonable remake.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, I just think, you know, there's the nostalgia
Speaker 4: movies that they're trying to milk, you know, like the
Speaker 4: Point Break remake, Like just if you were that guy
Speaker 4: that were like, oh, the Point Break remakes is better,
Speaker 4: but the thing itself is.
Speaker 2: A remake, right I think you're right, yes, yeah, yes.
Speaker 4: So that's the middle one because I think there was
Speaker 4: a like nineteen fifties version of the thing.
Speaker 1: It's a bit like I think people work that out
Speaker 1: when the probably the thing was really oh there was
Speaker 1: another thing. It's like a star is born. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like it was not like the fourth time that films we.
Speaker 4: May Yeah, exactly. So the Yeah, to me, one of
Speaker 4: the best scenes of all time is the blood testing
Speaker 4: scene and the thing I think the most tense, and yeah,
Speaker 4: the acting in it is amazing. And then obviously the
Speaker 4: creature whened the head gets decapitated and it sprouts you know,
Speaker 4: iraqnet legs amazing, right, And I think I saw that
Speaker 4: for the first time when I was twelve year right,
Speaker 4: and that's just burned into Mysachi.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And isn't it going to see Kurt Russell
Speaker 1: have a bit of a renaissance, you know, over the
Speaker 1: last ten years or so, like going back to probably
Speaker 1: Django Unchained. I think he probably reappeared or he seemed
Speaker 1: to repeat. Yeah, hbo. You know, I mean obviously these
Speaker 1: actors don't listen to this podcast, but yeah, you're working
Speaker 1: on a lot of movies. It just went went hitting.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was in Tarantino and then he winning
Speaker 1: back also for once by the time in Hollywood. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just good. Yeah, it's Michael Keaton, those actors
Speaker 1: in the eighties that kind of hit big in the
Speaker 1: eighties maybe lost their way for what reasons, and then
Speaker 1: getting their chances again.
Speaker 2: Oh death Proof.
Speaker 4: He was amazing and then then you know he got
Speaker 4: folded into the Marvel universe as the Dad in Guardians of.
Speaker 2: The Galaxy, the second one, that's right. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 2: yeah he has.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's always been one of my favorite actors, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, John Carpenter also did Escape from New York, Escape.
Speaker 2: From La Snake Pliskin, Pilskin plisket, plis getting well snake plisket,
Speaker 2: snake snake. We know snake, you know, of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so to me, yeah, he's always been top five
Speaker 4: probably favorite actors. And then everyone in the in the
Speaker 4: thing is just like delivers every aspect of it. And
Speaker 4: the fact that you know, the twenty eleven one relies
Speaker 4: heavily on CGI, whereas you know, you see practical effects
Speaker 4: and you're like that so much better.
Speaker 1: It's something directors when they use practical effects, whether it's
Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan, you know, like they will go on and
Speaker 1: then I'll try to make the and yes, you can
Speaker 1: get away with special effects that look really genuine and
Speaker 1: when you're watching it you won't even maybe notice on
Speaker 1: a conscious lebel but there's something self conscious about that
Speaker 1: experience of seeing practical effects used.
Speaker 4: Oh amazing, Like and just last night I saw the
Speaker 4: new alien movie Romulus. Ah, right, and they go back
Speaker 4: there's still some CGI, but they go back to like
Speaker 4: a dude in a rubber suit, and I'm like that rules. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's amazing, you know, because that's what I mean, Alien
Speaker 4: and the Aliens what we kind of grew up on,
Speaker 4: you know, seeing that chair and so the fact that
Speaker 4: he's thrown it back to you know, the face huggers
Speaker 4: or little practical puppets and stuff. There is still the
Speaker 4: mix of CGI.
Speaker 2: But I was just like that blew me away. I
Speaker 2: was like, thank god, Well.
Speaker 1: What I liked about the more recent Star Wars sequels, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was more into it than you know, some
Speaker 1: people were. J Abrams is practical effects again, and even
Speaker 1: in the Mandalorian, you know your Grogus, you know you
Speaker 1: can see it's a practical it's a puppet, you know,
Speaker 1: it's you know, I think there's an electronic city somewhere,
Speaker 1: but he's there on set. And there's something good about.
Speaker 4: Real fans has Grogu instead of Baby Yoda. Hell yeah, deep.
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, I mean if you don't know, he's not
Speaker 1: Baby Yoda. By now, let's talk about Fargo very surprisingly,
Speaker 1: we're about one hundred and sixty odd episodes into this
Speaker 1: podcast and the Ca'm Brothers have not come up enough
Speaker 1: for mine. In fact, I'm not even sure if we've
Speaker 1: covered one. I'm not sure if people are embarrassed that
Speaker 1: they to put their hand up and say, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen you know, a Fargo or a czy country. Yeah.
Speaker 4: That that infuriates me because I could have gone top
Speaker 4: three all Coen Brothers. Yeah, to be honest, I mean,
Speaker 4: I did an Honor's Arts degree because I you know,
Speaker 4: I have no other skills, and in the Honor's Arts agree.
Speaker 4: It's before I did a lot of degree. I wrote
Speaker 4: a dissertation on a genre theory and the Coen Brothers,
Speaker 4: basically because I wanted to spend a year just watching
Speaker 4: the Coen Brothers movies and not doing anything else. And
Speaker 4: my dissertation absolute dogshit.
Speaker 2: By the way, I think it's like they buried it.
Speaker 1: But it must be. It must be hard, I think,
Speaker 1: to write about the Coen Brothers because they share very
Speaker 1: little about what they think their films is about, which
Speaker 1: I thinks can be infuriating, but also I kind of
Speaker 1: love it because it's their work is open to interpretation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes I get impression that they're not as much into
Speaker 1: that idea of everything means something like this is just
Speaker 1: like this esthetically works, this, this is we like this
Speaker 1: because it's funny. Yeah, and everyone's trying to like work
Speaker 1: at every little detail.
Speaker 4: I know, but there is that's the thing, so much
Speaker 4: subtext in all of their films, and you're like, you
Speaker 4: know inside Lewin Davis, I watched again recently.
Speaker 1: It's an underrated film.
Speaker 4: Amazing A serious man like I watched a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago and I was like, this is.
Speaker 2: So much better than I felt after first watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was watching it and you know, after
Speaker 4: No Country and Fargo, Barton Fink, you know I should
Speaker 4: have watched. You know, Lady Killers are intolerable cruelty.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what they I think one of the
Speaker 1: most underrated films is is Burn. After reading I think
Speaker 1: definitely maybe their funniest film. I think I have it
Speaker 1: funnier than The Big Lebowski. Yeah, I just think I
Speaker 1: think it's George Clooney and his funniest Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: he's brad pitted, he's funniest. Franz mcdoin's always great everyone's
Speaker 1: just so Malkovich Malcovich.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's great in it, and I don't.
Speaker 1: Want to have to google him again. But who's who's
Speaker 1: the guy who's you know, the shape of Ward. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have Richard, Oh Jenkins Jenkins, of course, Richard Jenkins
Speaker 1: is so good.
Speaker 2: He's so good. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, like there's Coen Brothers movies that
Speaker 4: have flown under the radar, like Billy Bob Thornton was
Speaker 4: never better than Man who Wasn't There? Yeah, which was
Speaker 4: kind of like a big part of the you know,
Speaker 4: the genre of the film noir thing, and I kind
Speaker 4: of used it and that in Barton Fink and Miller's Crossing,
Speaker 4: which again, I mean, we could just talk Coen Brothers
Speaker 4: if you want.
Speaker 1: We haven't made with a cam brother film that you
Speaker 1: actually did nominate being far, but any film I think
Speaker 1: with the Coen Brothers that I've watched when it was
Speaker 1: released and was underwhelmed by, like you did with A
Speaker 1: Serious Man, if you come back to it later on,
Speaker 1: maybe you were in the red headspace, maybe you went
Speaker 1: ready for it. Yeah, but I suspect, like Lady Killers,
Speaker 1: I must say, didn't you know and it's I sense
Speaker 1: it's not one of their best.
Speaker 4: No, I think there's zany comedy stuff like Intolerable Cruelty
Speaker 4: and what was the Hail Caesar? Yeah yeah, those ones
Speaker 4: just don't really hurt for me the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a bit the same. Where brother, where at? Now?
Speaker 1: I that's come up a couple of times in people's favors.
Speaker 1: Actually that again, I think when when Clooney overplays comedy,
Speaker 1: it's jarring to me, you know, But I think we've
Speaker 1: been after reading For whatever reason, he just he found there.
Speaker 4: There was something about a super handsome guy trying to
Speaker 4: be funny. I'm like, stay in your lane, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I mark you? Shimmering eyes? What smile?
Speaker 2: But Fargo?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think every frame of that movie is just masterful.
Speaker 4: And I grew up in Kansas, and the phrase for that,
Speaker 4: the kind of the night it's called Minnesota ice. Right,
Speaker 4: this kind of you're outwardly polite and you know, very gregarious,
Speaker 4: but like there is a passive aggressiveness to it. And
Speaker 4: so that's a Midwest thing, right, That's it's Minnesota and ice.
Speaker 4: I know the phrase, but I in Kansas, you see
Speaker 4: that a shit on as well. Right, and so that
Speaker 4: kind of demeanor like really struck a chord with me. Again,
Speaker 4: the performances Francis McDorman, will each Macy and oh Pashimi, yeah,
Speaker 4: Peter Stormyer, just every the whoever plays the Dad character.
Speaker 4: The scene that I've argued about the most with people
Speaker 4: is the Mike Yanagita scene where Francis mcdormant meets an
Speaker 4: old friend.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And people are like, why is it in the movie, Yes,
Speaker 4: and it's to me it's perfect.
Speaker 1: Well, I've thought about that scene a lot as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what I like about the Caen Brothers, where
Speaker 1: we want to have this scene because we just like
Speaker 1: this scene. Yeah, and then it does inform character. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: It's not completely waste, but because it's not plot necessary
Speaker 1: for the plot, Yeah, I think people it jars with
Speaker 1: some people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But then to me, now that I've watched it so
Speaker 4: many times, I think her character has a slight shift.
Speaker 4: She's more cynical after that scene and goes back and
Speaker 4: interviews Jerry Lundergard and she's more not willing to accept
Speaker 4: him at face value, and so there's a shift in
Speaker 4: her demeanor and her investigative work post the Mike Yanagita
Speaker 4: conversation interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the scene that I always again I love as well.
Speaker 1: And there's so many great scenes in this and it
Speaker 1: was exciting. I started in the cinema and it's exciting.
Speaker 1: I think I Risable Dogs comes out before this. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Steve Ashimil seen Steve Machini before. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of how much of Frances McDormand. I would have
Speaker 1: seen Frants mcdawnds Missippi Burning, so I would have actually
Speaker 1: seen her because I love that movie. I think we
Speaker 1: make Macy was new to me, so it felt like
Speaker 1: either I was watching people I didn't know particularly well,
Speaker 1: or I'd kind of forgotten about and or new people.
Speaker 1: This felt like this, This town felt very real to me.
Speaker 1: He wasn't filled with movie stars. And the scene when
Speaker 1: we match Macy's character is Jerry is he's getting frustrated
Speaker 1: and he's trying to get the ice of his windscreen
Speaker 1: and that's the moment that makes him crack. And I
Speaker 1: think that is so true to life that we don't
Speaker 1: explode necessarily in those moments that we think, oh, hang on,
Speaker 1: you've just been told this horrible thing. When you explode
Speaker 1: you explode, you know, when you can't get the door
Speaker 1: open in the house with the key won't go, you know,
Speaker 1: the shopping burst bag bursts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, such a perfect just character moment. I mean,
Speaker 4: he just delivers an amazing performance and that and the
Speaker 4: scenes with her and him obviously stand out. But yeah,
Speaker 4: you're right, the BUSHEMI storm are Like, it's just the
Speaker 4: combinations of characters in that movie just make it just
Speaker 4: crackle the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right to me.
Speaker 4: The juxtaposition of the two marriages where it's William H.
Speaker 4: Macy Jerry lounderguard, yeah, trying to you know, get his
Speaker 4: wife kidnapped, and then the pure marriage of Marge Gunderson
Speaker 4: and her husband, and that just like, Okay, there's the
Speaker 4: most pure, amazing marriage and then the most evil, fucked up.
Speaker 4: It just sets it off and it drives everything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: just yeah, And I love the bullshit. This is based
Speaker 4: on a true story. You start, yeah, and then I.
Speaker 1: Think the first that I'm aware of who'd done that,
Speaker 1: and they just went yeah yeah, with a fucking com brothers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the myth is is that some like Japanese tourists
Speaker 4: died looking for the money, like went out into the
Speaker 4: frozen tundra of you know, northern Minnesota looking for the
Speaker 4: money and died of exposure. So they have blood on
Speaker 4: their hands for that.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, right.
Speaker 1: That is not I had no idea that happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to watch that movie again, and I've seen
Speaker 1: it many times. I love Fargo, a movie I've seen many, many,
Speaker 1: many times, even more than Fargo. He's Back to the Future.
Speaker 1: We mentioned it earlier because Nick Cody had never seen
Speaker 1: it before. What's Before our podcast live at the Melmanney
Speaker 1: National Comedy Festival. It's a perfect film.
Speaker 4: It is everything I mean, the defining movie of my childhood,
Speaker 4: probably yours.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I think we watched the VHS so many times, like
Speaker 4: the tape would burnout and we'd have to buy a
Speaker 4: new one.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 4: Even the sequel holds up for me, maybe in a
Speaker 4: more of a nostalgic sense.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I have a hoverboard at my apartment, you know, that's
Speaker 4: pride of place. I only just like, like I follow
Speaker 4: back to the future pages on socials, you know, where
Speaker 4: they throw little titbits and facts at you. And I
Speaker 4: only just realized that Christopher Lloyd was forty six when
Speaker 4: he played Doc Brown for the first time.
Speaker 1: Occasional I'll see Christopher Lloyd in approaching I.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, he was like the quintessential old man. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like and then forty six, I'm like, so what
Speaker 4: four years older than I am? Now I was like,
Speaker 4: that's not that's.
Speaker 1: That's a great I am three years older than Doc. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is amazing as wild.
Speaker 4: Right, So yeah, just a I can't hear Huey Lewis. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how often I listen to
Speaker 4: Huey Lewis, but obviously when I do, it triggers all
Speaker 4: the you know, memories, and it's so he's so tied
Speaker 4: to that movie. And I was a little skape rat
Speaker 4: as well as a kid, so even the skateboarding and
Speaker 4: it like stood out for me.
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't I was never good on the skateboard. Right,
Speaker 1: It comes as a shock I'm sure for many people,
Speaker 1: but that sequence is perfect. Like as a kid, you
Speaker 1: kind of go, how cool manure? Is that the new
Speaker 1: the Spark's coming off? Yeah, But just so like the
Speaker 1: details the things you learn in that opening sequence when
Speaker 1: before a word he's been said, but Mardy goes to
Speaker 1: doctor apartment and that you know, there's the news and
Speaker 1: obviously he's an inventor and he's missing, and it's all
Speaker 1: these all these amazing things that you find out, and
Speaker 1: that continues all the way through and nothing's forced. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes it feels it's like a gag that comes back
Speaker 1: later on and it's it's it's it means something, you know.
Speaker 1: And Michael J. Fox, he was him and Ted Dance
Speaker 1: and growing up to me were like, that's how you act. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the kind of naturalness of their styles, both in Family
Speaker 1: Ties and Cheers and in their subsequent movies, just as
Speaker 1: like that's if I was to get to act, that's
Speaker 1: how I kind of want to act.
Speaker 4: Yeah, where do you think that movie would say? If
Speaker 4: Eric Staltz had played Michael J. Fox or Marty McFly.
Speaker 1: I suspect it would still be good because the plot
Speaker 1: and the and the filmmaking is still very good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it may not. This may not be quite as good.
Speaker 1: I think it's to be very good, not as iconic. No,
Speaker 1: Michael Eric Steltz apparently saw it as a darker, more serious,
Speaker 1: dramatic movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they shot scenes with them and they're like,
Speaker 4: this isn't working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, getting acted.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's such a good big movie if
Speaker 1: you get acted and yeah, everyone look, that's the one
Speaker 1: that everyone knows and everyone speaks about.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's the most famous recasting.
Speaker 4: It must be, right, especially if they're in filming and
Speaker 4: then they boot them and get someone else in.
Speaker 2: It has to be.
Speaker 1: And then he knocks it so far out of the park.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In Eric stets defense, they did want Michael J. Fox
Speaker 1: before and he was just not Family Ties will not
Speaker 1: release him. Yeah, and then they did and he was
Speaker 1: working on Family Ties during the day and back to
Speaker 1: the Future at night. I think the scene in the
Speaker 1: the More when they the time machine and the Libyans come,
Speaker 1: that was the first his first day of shooting. It's
Speaker 1: not a shooting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. And then I mean, if they
Speaker 4: remake this, I think Zamacus has had under no circumstances
Speaker 4: will he allow them to remake it, right, But I
Speaker 4: think if they do, it'll be sacrilege, right because you can't, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you can't do anything. And if it's a sequel, it'll
Speaker 4: be bad.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And Okay, back to Fargo.
Speaker 4: The TV show paid off for me because the TV
Speaker 4: show wasn't a remake. It was just in this kind
Speaker 4: of universe. Yeah, And the first two seasons are amazing
Speaker 4: at Fargo, right, and it pays tribute to there's so
Speaker 4: many Easter eggs for Cohen brother fanatically that it's just
Speaker 4: like made for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So, I mean
Speaker 4: I didn't mind Fargo as a TV show, but I
Speaker 4: think back to the future, if they ever redo it,
Speaker 4: it'll be it'll be awful.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I was going to and we will.
Speaker 1: We'll get to it later because we're going to move
Speaker 1: on to the movie feature movie. Let's just talk about
Speaker 1: you make a pretty compelling case not to move on
Speaker 1: to The Big Chill, but I do want to. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you whether, and this might become
Speaker 1: a regular question almost a segment, is would you sequel
Speaker 1: the movie or reboot it? And how would you do it?
Speaker 1: We might get to that later for the Big Chill.
Speaker 1: But let's get in to the movie. We are here
Speaker 1: to talk about pretty strong stuff.
Speaker 7: Feel terrible.
Speaker 8: Last time I spoke with Alex, yeah, a fight, I yelled,
Speaker 8: That's probably why I killed himself.
Speaker 1: We designed we were what was the argument about?
Speaker 7: I told him he was wasting his life.
Speaker 1: Okay, Mike Goldstein, you can talk about your favorite films
Speaker 1: all you like. I'm gonna make you talk about the
Speaker 1: film I made you watch during the week N three
Speaker 1: Lawrence Kasden, starring an impeccable cast Tom Berenger, Glen Close,
Speaker 1: Jeff Goldbloom, William Kevin Kleine, amongst others. Directed by the
Speaker 1: Great Lawrence Kasden. Did you enjoy nine in eighty three's
Speaker 1: The Big Chill.
Speaker 2: Like Look?
Speaker 4: I watched it like twice because I wanted to fully
Speaker 4: do that often with movies, watch it once for like
Speaker 4: an entertainment superficial level, and then watch it again to
Speaker 4: analyze and soak it in. And on first viewing, I
Speaker 4: was like, this is a soundtrack in search of a movie, right,
Speaker 4: It just seemed like an excuse to play all these
Speaker 4: classic songs. And then on second viewing there was more
Speaker 4: that I appreciated in terms of setting up characters. The
Speaker 4: lack of exposition was great. You know, they kind of
Speaker 4: like leave it up to the viewer to piece things together.
Speaker 4: I don't think dialogue is Lawrence Casten's specialty.
Speaker 1: He's come from a galaxy file file away, and he's
Speaker 1: not respected at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Raiders of Lost Arc. So he's doing these huge,
Speaker 4: like archetypal set piece action you know, sci fi movies,
Speaker 4: and then he did this quiet, little ensemble piece.
Speaker 1: Almost. I do like a love of the dollar in
Speaker 1: this movie. Yeah, I think there is. I mean it's
Speaker 1: really about you know, hip, he's becoming yuppies.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that's why my old man loved it, you know,
Speaker 4: like because I think to boomers it probably strikes a chord.
Speaker 4: And then to me, it would be fascinating if like,
Speaker 4: in another fifteen years they meet up again. There's a
Speaker 4: sequel The Big Chill too, still chilling, and it's like
Speaker 4: where are they at now? And then they just probably
Speaker 4: own all the property and you know, are much more
Speaker 4: self centered than they are in this movie.
Speaker 1: What brings him together?
Speaker 4: That in the sequel, would you would think William Hurt's
Speaker 4: character would be the next dead one?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tough one though, because he uh, he's one
Speaker 1: of the better characters. I think, Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 4: And I did like that his character as soon as
Speaker 4: he's introduced, he's doing coludes in the car and I
Speaker 4: love that introduction of the characters. All you know, hearing
Speaker 4: about the death arriving at the funeral and also unpacking
Speaker 4: their suitcase, like great little moments to set up who
Speaker 4: they are.
Speaker 1: I think every shot in this movie tells you something
Speaker 1: that's what I like about, even if it's of an
Speaker 1: object or a place, and that I agree. The opening
Speaker 1: I think is phenomenal, just good strong filmmaking, is not
Speaker 1: too much exposition like you've you've mentioned, and just getting
Speaker 1: into it. And this movie is a little bit of halftime,
Speaker 1: you know, a bit of the song Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
Speaker 1: Kevin Klein with his kid, who's I think Jonathan Kasten,
Speaker 1: the son of I think I wrote a solo I think.
Speaker 2: With didn't cut him out.
Speaker 1: Because there's a couple of his wife's in it. He's
Speaker 1: another kid who asked for Sam for his autograph. That's
Speaker 1: another Kasdin and Stewardess is his wife Meg, who helped
Speaker 1: with the music as well. And then a phone call,
Speaker 1: not even going close. I love it when filmmakers and
Speaker 1: day I'm not sure what coverage they get on the day,
Speaker 1: but don't have they have the courage just stay back
Speaker 1: and let the scene play out, and it's then close,
Speaker 1: Sarah taking the phone call, hanging up and then she
Speaker 1: just comes with teas in her eyes, nothing said, and
Speaker 1: you hear that music. I would say about the music,
Speaker 1: I know what you mean, Like there are so many
Speaker 1: hits in this movie, but I feel like it does
Speaker 1: service the story. Yeah, you could put score in here, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I feel like, like the Rolling Stones one, he's
Speaker 1: maybe the best example of Karen gets up and sing
Speaker 1: you performs on the organ, yeah, one of his favorite,
Speaker 1: Alex's favorite songs, which is you can't always get what
Speaker 1: you want Rolling Stones and the pall Bearers all come out,
Speaker 1: load up the coffin and then eventually goes into the
Speaker 1: Rolling Stones version.
Speaker 4: And plays the whole song out yeah. Yeah, which is
Speaker 4: a great thing where even the Marvin Gaye song Grapevine
Speaker 4: at the start like plays all the way through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't see that.
Speaker 1: That would I'd love to know their budget, yeah said,
Speaker 1: this is not a big budget of the movie.
Speaker 4: He had that Sweet Star Wars money, so you can
Speaker 4: buy the rights to it. And I mean, all the
Speaker 4: songs are great. I think it's the first time I've
Speaker 4: heard credence in a non Vietnam movie, you know, or
Speaker 4: a war movie of that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: So even when you hear Credence, You're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: like it doesn't have to be used purely for Vietnam ship.
Speaker 1: You know, I think credence. I remember playing a I
Speaker 1: think it was Carry a bit more. Actually, I said,
Speaker 1: I was driving home one day and I said, for
Speaker 1: some reason, we got on the Credence because Carry's got
Speaker 1: these partial to some you know, some shed in modern
Speaker 1: music as well. She works in the Commission radio station,
Speaker 1: but she likes older music as well. And I said,
Speaker 1: do you like Credence? And I'm always I think I've
Speaker 1: done this to a few people. When that when is
Speaker 1: that rolling through creatence clean water revival songs? Yeah, people
Speaker 1: minds are blown by how many songs they actually do recognize.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they are any incredible and I think they're
Speaker 1: goind of get left behind in some of the discussions
Speaker 1: that we have about the great band of that era.
Speaker 1: Of course, what I loved about the Swing with Vietnam
Speaker 1: is how I thought William Hurt's character.
Speaker 2: Oh true, so there is a Vietnam connection.
Speaker 1: There is a Vietnam. But I like that they didn't
Speaker 1: make it about that.
Speaker 4: No, but explain to me, because I was trying to
Speaker 4: figure it out. Did he like ruin his dick. Dick, Yeah,
Speaker 4: in Vietnam.
Speaker 1: It is a blink and you'll miss it kind of detail.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he like starts explaining it and then it
Speaker 4: cuts away, and then she starts shrieking, which is a
Speaker 4: nice little gag, you know, and then because there's a
Speaker 4: bat in the upstairs room. But like it was just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I almost just like want to find out what happened.
Speaker 2: To this dude's dick.
Speaker 1: That's a prequel.
Speaker 4: The Little Chill, Yeah, so that you know, and then
Speaker 4: it gets referenced, I think later when the character who's
Speaker 4: trying to get pregnant or no, that wasn't that. But
Speaker 4: then again, I think it comes up with Alex's young girlfriend.
Speaker 4: He mentioned something about my junk doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and there's there's a lot of details that
Speaker 1: would feel like big details in any other film. Yeah
Speaker 1: that if you're not paying attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the first time, for some reason, I missed
Speaker 1: the idea that Sarah Glenn Close had had an.
Speaker 2: Affair yeah with Alex really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when they're running, it all gets kind of explained. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's William Hurton and Kevin Klein, Harold and Nick and yeah,
Speaker 1: he says it was five years earlier and they had
Speaker 1: to work through it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, she clearly, out of all the characters, seems the
Speaker 4: most devastated by the loss of Alex Right. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: even like some of the Tonal chefs, Like there's a
Speaker 4: scene she's crying in the shower naked, you know, about
Speaker 4: the last and then it just cuts to them, you know,
Speaker 4: dancing around the table, and I guess that's kind of
Speaker 4: the point, you know, like we suppressed grief and act
Speaker 4: out in different ways. But just for me, tonally, I
Speaker 4: was like Jesus, you know, she's experienced this loss and
Speaker 4: then they're all just like making solid and dancing and
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, I just to me, the
Speaker 4: shifts were a little jarring sometimes, But.
Speaker 1: I what I liked is it rang Did it feel
Speaker 1: truly like first I believed they felt like a bunch
Speaker 1: of friends, like college friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They did a really good job, and apparently Lawrence Kassen
Speaker 1: had a few weeks with them where they lived in
Speaker 1: the house and they cooked and they played music together
Speaker 1: and they sometimes eventually was all being character. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: they arrived on set the film with a good feeling
Speaker 1: for each other. They've gone to college. For while, I
Speaker 1: had to work at how old they were. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like, is this an American thing where the ages
Speaker 1: are a bit skewy but they are like thirty yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and we is I think roughly the age they all are,
Speaker 1: So the ages are all right, But I yeah, I
Speaker 1: do think they all feel like college friends. And then
Speaker 1: I was trying to track should they be more devastated,
Speaker 1: like because there is like humor from the get go,
Speaker 1: Like there's jokes at the funeral. I mean, going close
Speaker 1: actually makes you know, the biggest joke about the funeral
Speaker 1: We specialize in in you know, funerals for people who
Speaker 1: killed themselves in their bathtub. Yeah, but what's great about it?
Speaker 1: She didn't, says did Why did I say?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a moment of immediate reflection. Yeah, oh god,
Speaker 4: yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So but I was trying to you know, I was
Speaker 1: curious to chat you about did they feel devastated enough
Speaker 1: or is the point is they didn't really know Alex Yeah,
Speaker 1: which Nick makes that point of like we'd let go
Speaker 1: of him years ago, right.
Speaker 4: Because there's been fifteen years since they're all together, so.
Speaker 2: They've all moved on.
Speaker 1: So I do kind of suspect that they wouldn't be
Speaker 1: necessarily completely shattered as you would if a friend who
Speaker 1: you're in constant contact with, yeah, does this. And I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if you've been close to this kind of
Speaker 1: incident as as aside goes. I been like, I don't
Speaker 1: you know, we had awake, you know, and there was
Speaker 1: certainly a celebration and humor, but outside of that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think there was a lot of you know, fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think with the time that's passed, it feels
Speaker 1: kind of right, I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: I mean I've been through a similar circumstance and yeah,
Speaker 4: there is gallows humor with any of that, and especially
Speaker 4: as comics, you know, like you want to cut through
Speaker 4: the tension by making a joke, right, And I think
Speaker 4: that's built into the script of this film. And all
Speaker 4: the actors are great. I mean, like I said, you know,
Speaker 4: my Dad's Avengers movie, because you're getting like huge stars
Speaker 4: of the time together, William Hurt, Tom Berenger, Kevin Klein.
Speaker 4: You know, the fact I didn't realize, I mean, I
Speaker 4: know we'll get to it probably in more detail, but
Speaker 4: the fact that Kevin Costner, who to me is the
Speaker 4: hugest star to come out of this movie. It's never
Speaker 4: shown do you see him? You just see his body.
Speaker 1: So for a while I was like, who was the
Speaker 1: guy in the suit, So it's the idea. Do you
Speaker 1: think that he's getting made up for the coffin?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not open Caska. Do you ever see
Speaker 2: him at all?
Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of pressure from fans to
Speaker 1: release the Costner version.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is the flashbacks.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So the last scene was going to be
Speaker 1: got a long scene. I think it's the first scene
Speaker 1: they shot of then younger with Alex there, but they
Speaker 1: kind of thought they couldn't. Alex is raised and put
Speaker 1: on this pedestal throughout the whole movie that they didn't
Speaker 1: think they could do it justice by showing one scene
Speaker 1: of him, like the job was already done.
Speaker 4: And I guess Kevin Carser at the time wasn't like
Speaker 4: a huge He wasn't.
Speaker 1: He wasn't and Lorence Caven felt bad about it so
Speaker 1: gave him the lead in Silverado. Yeah, but yeah, he
Speaker 1: he He kind of explodes with Bullderham, I think afterwards
Speaker 1: and the Untouchables and.
Speaker 4: Filled the dreams all dreams so yeah, to me, it
Speaker 4: did ring true.
Speaker 2: I'll say this.
Speaker 4: The character identified with the most was Jeff Goldbloom as
Speaker 4: a creepy why Why, as a wise cracking jew that
Speaker 4: no one wants to sleep with.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, I got that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's just stay on Jeff gold I'm
Speaker 1: happy to come back to Jeff Goldlin if you want.
Speaker 1: If you want to make another point, yeah, when he
Speaker 1: starts hitting on Chloe Yeah, played by make Tilly.
Speaker 4: The I was looking at her and I was going, God,
Speaker 4: she looks like Jennifer Tilly.
Speaker 2: She reminds me. And then then I looked up her name.
Speaker 1: And I was like, sister, so amazingly similar. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think she's great. She also gives us this outside of
Speaker 1: his view of what's going on.
Speaker 4: Her lines are amazing, like, uh, the I don't talk
Speaker 4: about my past as much as you people do. And
Speaker 4: it's like yeah, because it's all they're doing is, you know,
Speaker 4: reminiscing as friends do. And that is a great perspective
Speaker 4: because if you get together with an old group of friends,
Speaker 4: anyone like a new partner or someone is like, it's
Speaker 4: so boring to them. Yeah, they're so unhappy.
Speaker 1: See one generation judging another generation, yeah as well. And
Speaker 1: you know she has that line where she says, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't hang out with I don't hang enough. I
Speaker 1: don't hang out with enough happy people, so I don't
Speaker 1: know how they really behave. Yeah, you know, and even
Speaker 1: her interludes and her just laughs loudly when the tension
Speaker 1: that Nick brings into the amazing line.
Speaker 4: Like one of my favorite lines was the one she goes, oh,
Speaker 4: I wanted to ride in the limo and she's talking about.
Speaker 2: The hearse or the corpses.
Speaker 4: It's like that perspective is it saying like someone going, oh,
Speaker 4: I wish I could be in the limo, It's like
Speaker 4: you don't want to be in the hearse.
Speaker 1: That's saying is this? And then that's said, He's so
Speaker 1: perfectly written nothing because you got that kind of the
Speaker 1: weirdness like everyone. I think, I think quite catch I
Speaker 1: actually watched it a couple of times. I couldn't quite
Speaker 1: catch what Glen Close said when they said how long
Speaker 1: has it been going out for? I watched it was
Speaker 1: like four weeks or four months. Yeah, I couldn't quite
Speaker 1: catch it. Unfortunately, it would be good detail to know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's new to all of them, then new to her,
Speaker 1: and she's still at the limo, and then Jeff Gold creepy,
Speaker 1: Creepy Michael says, oh, you know, I write in quite
Speaker 1: a few limos, and he explains that he writes for
Speaker 1: People magazine. You know pretty quickly that that's not what
Speaker 1: he wants to of course, you know, that was his
Speaker 1: dream destination. And then it flicks over to Sam tom
Speaker 1: Berenger and he's talking about, you know, how he acts,
Speaker 1: and Jeff Goblin kind of sniggers a little bit at that,
Speaker 1: so you can see that it's not the TV show
Speaker 1: that he wants to be making either. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: just so it's it's I think it's really definitely done well.
Speaker 4: So I thought, yeah, definitely with those characters. But my
Speaker 4: biggest problem would be some of the female characters, like
Speaker 4: the one the lady who just wants to have a baby,
Speaker 4: that's her driving motivation.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, And then.
Speaker 1: They sounds like a weird thing to be tackling at
Speaker 1: the weekend of a funeral.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean you've seen that trump before where
Speaker 4: some death begets life, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 4: so it's like, oh, it's the cycle. But then my
Speaker 4: partner watched when I watched the first run of this movie,
Speaker 4: she watched with me, and when Glenn Close says I
Speaker 4: want my husband to sleep with you to provide you
Speaker 4: with the child, my partner yelled, Oh, fuck off, because
Speaker 4: it's like so unsettling, and it's you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 4: it's just so gross al must.
Speaker 1: It's a weaken You've been very emotional. Yeah, why not
Speaker 1: take a few days to think about it?
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's so weird and I don't know, it's
Speaker 4: it's foreshadowed a bit like Kevin Klein jumps on the
Speaker 4: couch and that lady wants to get pregnant rubbing his
Speaker 4: feet and she's wearing the clothes of the wife even
Speaker 4: you know. And then yeah, the fact they're sex scene
Speaker 4: is like so uncomfortable to me. He's like deep eye
Speaker 4: contact and he's just slowly grinding away. And yeah, so
Speaker 4: my partner's responsible.
Speaker 2: Fuck off.
Speaker 4: When that you know, plot twist or whatever you want
Speaker 4: to call it happened, I felt that because I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it just feels forced and weird and unsettling in a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand you want to you want to
Speaker 1: have a payofficer. Things need to be happening in people's lives,
Speaker 1: and I can understand why that idea comes up, but
Speaker 1: I agree it felt a little bit icky and also
Speaker 1: the kind of thing where you go, do you regret
Speaker 1: that a week later, a month later, when the baby's born,
Speaker 1: you know, I know they all happy that the next morning.
Speaker 4: Oh, she's going to be coming after the stocks and
Speaker 4: that company.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, the shoe company exactly.
Speaker 4: He's Kevin Cline's character has got this huge, you know,
Speaker 4: business deal going on, and he's given people insider trading advice.
Speaker 4: The kids better get a taste, you know.
Speaker 1: I did one of the scenes. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: scenes was when the cops come and they challenge they're
Speaker 1: going to let Nick go because Nick's got himself into
Speaker 1: some trouble and they're going to let him go if
Speaker 1: Sam can do his you know, jump into the car
Speaker 1: like he does on the TV sh he tries it
Speaker 1: and you can't do it. I like a one that's funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: physically it's funny in a in a very talky movie
Speaker 1: where there's people inside the light, but then where it
Speaker 1: goes the kind of conversation between Nick and Harold is
Speaker 1: really good. I think we start getting to where the
Speaker 1: movie is trying to make a point. Let's have a listen. One,
Speaker 1: did you get so friendly with cops? Harold?
Speaker 8: You're fucking stupid, stupid.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: First of all, that cap has twice kept this house
Speaker 8: from being ripped off.
Speaker 1: Happens to be a hell of a guy.
Speaker 7: You come on, Harold, what is it?
Speaker 1: What is it with you?
Speaker 8: Is jail another experience? You want to try? See what
Speaker 8: that's like? You know, I live here, this place means
Speaker 8: something to me. I'm dug in. I don't need this ship.
Speaker 1: Kevin Klein leanning, living heavily into this something extent for
Speaker 1: some reason, I think where he's.
Speaker 2: It dips in it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, he's still.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one of the best. But to me and
Speaker 4: for the male characters, he was the.
Speaker 2: Most one note as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so his character, I mean again, you know,
Speaker 4: obviously he's got a successful business, and it just seemed,
Speaker 4: I don't know, there wasn't much depth to him. But
Speaker 4: I don't know how you read it as well, But
Speaker 4: maybe that scene probably added a little more kind of
Speaker 4: color and depth to him. But yeah, I just didn't
Speaker 4: feel like he was fully fleshed out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I guess he was the one who was
Speaker 1: defending their right to change and evolve and not be yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, eighteen twenty or early twenty for the rest
Speaker 1: of our lives. Yeah, and he's going, this is okay,
Speaker 1: you know, and the fact that you know, no doubt,
Speaker 1: you know, they ain't necessarily overtly say it, but they
Speaker 1: those young kids are anti cops, you know. And then
Speaker 1: and now they're like, no, he protects her house.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also though the first probably cuck in a movie, you know,
Speaker 4: his wife is sleeping with another man and he just
Speaker 4: deals with it.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, you know, so.
Speaker 1: Well, I just meant that's there to help us. It's
Speaker 1: almost one if. It's almost like Glenn closest character, Sarah
Speaker 1: is saying she knows what she's done in the past,
Speaker 1: so she's broken that. You know, does that make it
Speaker 1: easier for her to kind of go, let's you have
Speaker 1: this experience?
Speaker 4: See Yeah, I kind of thought that as well, where
Speaker 4: she's like, all right, you at a pass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure that in the real will and
Speaker 1: when Karen, sorry, when Meg comes in, when the acting
Speaker 1: has been agreed upon, you know, Yeah, she's really dressed up,
Speaker 1: she's got she's gotting.
Speaker 2: On layers off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of work to be done.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then in the morning they thought the greatest sexual
Speaker 1: experience they've ever had, Like really from the dressing gown.
Speaker 4: Oh and the snippet we saw of it, it looked awful.
Speaker 1: Really, it's finding the sixth scenes. Oh, all always fully clothed,
Speaker 1: and this the.
Speaker 4: One outdoors with Tom Berenger and Aaron Karen Karen to me, okay,
Speaker 4: to me, she was the worst part of the movie,
Speaker 4: right because her motivation. She's in a loveless marriage, which
Speaker 4: is kind of set up nicely early. But and it's
Speaker 4: also like her just being so wonder dimensional. Okay, but
Speaker 4: it also provided to me my favorite part of the movie,
Speaker 4: which is her husband eating a mayonnaise on white bread
Speaker 4: sandwich and washing it down with a glass of milk.
Speaker 4: I was like, that's so funny. It's like, we know
Speaker 4: he's bland, but they're really hammering at home.
Speaker 1: Do Americans get up in the night as much as
Speaker 1: movies suggests, because I've never gotten in the middle of
Speaker 1: not for a meal. I just haven't, and I enjoy
Speaker 1: a meal yeah, and I don't know any My wife
Speaker 1: doesn't do it. My wife may have a cap of
Speaker 1: tea and toast if she can't sleep. It very very rarely.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I suffer from a bit
Speaker 4: of insomnia, but you know, I'll just get up, read
Speaker 4: a book for a little bit, go back to bed.
Speaker 4: But I'm never cracking out of mayonnaise on white bread
Speaker 4: sandwich and a glass of milk.
Speaker 2: And you can sleep.
Speaker 1: You sleep out that.
Speaker 4: And the thing is like he kind of says an
Speaker 4: interesting line where he's like, oh, you know, I have
Speaker 4: a bit of insomnia and this is the only like
Speaker 4: piece of quiet I get from the family. So I
Speaker 4: love I love the fact that I can't sleep.
Speaker 2: And I'm up at the night. And then he's when
Speaker 2: he's eating that.
Speaker 4: I was so it was so funny to me that
Speaker 4: you're setting him up his bland. And there's a line
Speaker 4: about him that's also one of the best lines in
Speaker 4: the movie where she goes, oh, I know he'll always
Speaker 4: be faithful and someone goes, oh, you guys trust each other,
Speaker 4: and she goes no fear of herpes. I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, that's funny, you know. Yeah, So that's this
Speaker 4: husband's just kind of a whipping boy. And then he
Speaker 4: you know, he leaves pretty early on.
Speaker 1: But I think he leaves knowing that his wife has
Speaker 1: designs on Sam or and he's okay with it happening,
Speaker 1: or that he just he thinks it might happen, but
Speaker 1: he's not gonna wait around to watch it.
Speaker 4: Because it seems like he at the funeral, like immediately
Speaker 4: it sets it up like that she's like staring at
Speaker 4: at Sam, the Tom Berenger character, and then the husband
Speaker 4: looks over disapprovingly, like.
Speaker 1: They meet outside of the church, and he's not we watch
Speaker 1: you shows all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big fan. So to me, that was
Speaker 4: the best character was the husband. I'd watch a whole
Speaker 4: movie of this. This fucking dude eating mayonnaise sandwich just.
Speaker 1: Just truth bombs with Richard sandwich.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but to me, yeah, Karen who And then their
Speaker 4: sex scene outdoors like fully clothed, and I, you know,
Speaker 4: I get it that they're not making sex seem like
Speaker 4: this wonderful, flowery thing, almost in binary to the other
Speaker 4: sex scene where it is seemed not erotic, but like
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, this beautiful moment, and then theirs is
Speaker 4: all like frenzied and outside and anyone who has had
Speaker 4: sex outdoors knows it's the worst experience. You know, it's
Speaker 4: never good. They got mosquito bites all over their ass
Speaker 4: at this point.
Speaker 2: It's just terrible.
Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, wearing a mask and run at your bum.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're Richard Gear, you paid for it.
Speaker 1: I would love to know that rumor is true. The
Speaker 1: I would love to know of the discussions about how
Speaker 1: to Obviously, even and more so these days with intimacy
Speaker 1: coordinators on certain things need to be really mapped out.
Speaker 1: But I would like to know the discussions they had
Speaker 1: for the Meg and Harold sex scene, because obviously they
Speaker 1: want it's built to be as far as what we
Speaker 1: see beforehand and afterwards as a loveliness to it. And
Speaker 1: I wonder how they how can we reflect this in
Speaker 1: the actual because I'm not sure if they pun nailed it.
Speaker 1: But you don't want too much. You don't want a
Speaker 1: full nudity scene, you know, you want to use it.
Speaker 1: Glenn close in the bath, crying in the bath, which
Speaker 1: eighties still like they still we're pretty okay with a
Speaker 1: lady's nip.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, she in fatal attraction.
Speaker 2: Guys, does she go for now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, yeah, I think she does. It's only a
Speaker 1: few years after about four years, four years after this.
Speaker 4: Are you saying no nips and movies anymore. I feel
Speaker 4: like we're in a posting it barrow.
Speaker 1: I feel like you might be posting it a posting.
Speaker 1: It's just so much. I think we went we'll post
Speaker 1: it for a while. Maybe we actually the nips come back. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's so much content now it's hard to keep across
Speaker 1: side now it's certainly Game of thrins. Game of Thrones,
Speaker 1: will you makes up for most of it?
Speaker 4: So TV nips, But yeah, movie nips are rare, especially
Speaker 4: like the comedies of the eighties and nineties. There's ah, dude,
Speaker 4: it was nothing button it.
Speaker 1: Even in the Hangover. I'm trying think the Hangover movies
Speaker 1: is I can't remember there being like much nudity. I
Speaker 1: might be completely wrong in this forgetting Yeah, massive scene
Speaker 1: which was all.
Speaker 4: But it's like say, gags like an airplane which was
Speaker 4: flying high here, you know, just like there's turbulence and
Speaker 4: it just cuts the massive set of cans jiggling around.
Speaker 2: It's like it's funny.
Speaker 1: It was like it was the Wild West about that. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Jeff Goblins. He set up so creepy
Speaker 1: from the get go. Yeah, that he basically is trying
Speaker 1: to groom Chloe this grieving is she technically wind.
Speaker 4: And she's got to be what mid early twenties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's young. She's young. Yeah, I mean obviously Alex,
Speaker 1: you know, so they're similar age. So but yeah, I
Speaker 1: think praying on because it's a scene where he goes
Speaker 1: to her. They have like a little off you know,
Speaker 1: like off property kind of. It's on the property that yeah,
Speaker 1: disconnected apartment if you like. And he goes down and
Speaker 1: she answers and she's in underwear and sing it and
Speaker 1: he's almost leaning in for the kiss and and she
Speaker 1: shuts it down. I love the way she handles it.
Speaker 1: She just turns away like she doesn't even address you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a pretty it's pretty creepy.
Speaker 4: He is creepy and like the most outwardly kind of
Speaker 4: selfish and like his plans to open up a nightclub,
Speaker 4: but he's it's just like it's crazy. He's not doing
Speaker 4: as much cocaine as William Burt's character, right, because he
Speaker 4: seems like the most coke fueled.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, absolutely, And.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's sexualized right from the start. Her introduction is
Speaker 4: she's like working out and she's all sweaty and like
Speaker 4: writhing around on the floor. Yeah, and so she's kind
Speaker 4: of like set up that way, and then you know,
Speaker 4: no one ends up hooking up with her. But yeah,
Speaker 4: the gold bloom lasciviousness is on full display.
Speaker 1: It's a wet Sam Tom Berenger, here's another actor who
Speaker 1: you'd love to see get a renaissance.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I first came to Tom Beranger in Major League.
Speaker 2: Yeah, classic, Yeah, he was good Major League definitely. What
Speaker 2: else would he be known for? Would it just be
Speaker 2: big chill in that?
Speaker 1: It's a bloody good question. I think it was like
Speaker 1: pretty big around this time, even outside of the Big
Speaker 1: Chill Yeah.
Speaker 2: Major League.
Speaker 4: I mean that just I wonder if it holds up.
Speaker 4: But it's yeah, it's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck you
Speaker 4: Joebu all that. It's another movie that was on repeat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, made in eighty nine, six years after this. He
Speaker 1: was in Inception I don't see which I was in
Speaker 1: Platoon of course, so he definitely known for that.
Speaker 2: I almost said that's the youngest I've seen him, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, he actually looked six years older in Major
Speaker 1: League and I guess if he's late thirties, you know,
Speaker 1: you start aging into your forties a little bit. But
Speaker 1: he looked quite different. I thought in Major League, like
Speaker 1: he looked like he'd aged and that those six years.
Speaker 1: I would have to say, yeah from my memory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, yeah, because this, you know, he is the
Speaker 4: Magnum p I character. Which do you think Lawrence Casten
Speaker 4: was obviously referencing Magnum p I but in a sense
Speaker 4: like making fun of it or is a tribute to
Speaker 4: it or what was your angle on that.
Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of a piss take. I
Speaker 1: think it was. It was. It was set up to
Speaker 1: be he was in training day as well. It was
Speaker 1: set up to be that he, like Jeff Goldblim's character Michael,
Speaker 1: that Sam was not doing. He was a bit embarrassed
Speaker 1: by you know, what he was doing. He wanted maybe
Speaker 1: he wanted to be a theater actor or something more worthy,
Speaker 1: and he was in you know when they were around
Speaker 1: watching watching it. Yeah, And I like that scene because
Speaker 1: it kind of felt that they're pissed taking they felt
Speaker 1: like they said, they felt like friends. And that's when
Speaker 1: something that when she goes down, even right at the end,
Speaker 1: and they just come out and there's no big I'm
Speaker 1: sorry man, you know, like there's just like little touches
Speaker 1: on the shoulder and yeah, and that's what friends do.
Speaker 1: If you actually proper friends and you've got life history especially, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you can move through things a bit quicker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, yeah, I see that. And like you said,
Speaker 4: the chemistry was definitely there between the cast, even when
Speaker 4: they're watching the Michigan game, you know, they're all Michigan
Speaker 4: alum from the university. And then I thought that was
Speaker 4: like a kind of definitely some people are way more
Speaker 4: into it than others, you know, and Jeff Goldbloom still
Speaker 4: trying to get laid when they're watching it, you know,
Speaker 4: and the woman who wants to get pregnant won't even sleep.
Speaker 2: With Jeff Goldblum. Yeah right, it's funny, even though it comes.
Speaker 4: That they had slept together in the past, but she
Speaker 4: doesn't want him to be, you know, the absentee father
Speaker 4: of her child.
Speaker 1: Even so, Yeah, I think Sam as well, let's go
Speaker 1: back to Tom barnsheit. I thought there's a version of
Speaker 1: that character, who's like, is the asshole? Yeah, the Hollywood asshole?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I thought he was actually quite a sympathetic character.
Speaker 1: Really liked him.
Speaker 4: I think to me, his best scene was when they're
Speaker 4: all on the couch on the final night, which was
Speaker 4: the most compelling scene, and they're all kind of finally
Speaker 4: being honest about their good friend's suicide, and you know
Speaker 4: how it's affected them as, Oh, you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna let's listened to it, so you might you should
Speaker 1: be hosting this is happening because we all really miss him.
Speaker 6: And we're really I think that's a crack of shit.
Speaker 1: I think we're afraid. Just the opposite is true.
Speaker 6: Alex died for most of us a long time ago.
Speaker 3: I think you're a crock of shit.
Speaker 1: Don't speak for me or anybody else here.
Speaker 3: You hate your life, that's your problem.
Speaker 1: Don't tell us how we feel. Okay, that's it. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying.
Speaker 6: If I hate my life, that's my problem. Today's run
Speaker 6: around the comfort Alex just as compassionately.
Speaker 3: Hey, Nick, and we go back a long way, and
Speaker 3: I'm not going to piss that.
Speaker 1: Away because you're higher than a kite.
Speaker 6: Wrong, A long time ago. We knew each other for
Speaker 6: a short period. You don't know anything about me. It
Speaker 6: was easy back then. No one ever had a cushier
Speaker 6: birth than we did. It's not surprising our friendship could
Speaker 6: survive that. It's only out here in the world that
Speaker 6: it gets tough.
Speaker 1: Nick, I don't care what you say. I know I
Speaker 1: loved you and everybody else here, and I'll go on
Speaker 1: believing it till I kick Yeah. I think these are
Speaker 1: the best says yeah in the movie Do you like
Speaker 1: there is an honesty that's going on here? It reminded
Speaker 1: me of one of my favorite movie, Sideways, where Paul G.
Speaker 1: Marty kind of says at the end, this guy who's
Speaker 1: taken them on the you know, they've gone this journey
Speaker 1: together for the Bucks party and it's all gone pair
Speaker 1: shapes and he says, he's not he's not my best friend.
Speaker 1: He's the guy I shared a room with it, you know,
Speaker 1: at Santa Monica State or whatever college it was. And
Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear Nick going to make that point,
Speaker 1: which is we're not really friends. We happen to be
Speaker 1: in the same classroom together or the same college together
Speaker 1: at a certain time in history and that's you know,
Speaker 1: I suspect it's not, and I like that Sam comes
Speaker 1: back and says, no, that's not that's not true. It's
Speaker 1: not true for me. You know, I love everyone in
Speaker 1: this room, and that's what's true for him. I wonder
Speaker 1: if if it is true for Nick. Is he just
Speaker 1: going through a period.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The self reflection I think with him is great because
Speaker 4: with the others I've feel like are way more I
Speaker 4: don't know, selfish and not actually analyzing their feelings. Glenn
Speaker 4: Close obviously devastated by it, but I feel like the
Speaker 4: other characters are just worried about, you know, selling the
Speaker 4: company or getting laid or you know, just like my
Speaker 4: husband sucks, I'm going to hook up with, you know,
Speaker 4: an old friend. I don't know the motivations. Whereas the
Speaker 4: fact that Tom Berenger's character and Glenn Close are the
Speaker 4: only ones that kind of vocalize it in a way
Speaker 4: that seems like they're grieving add way more depth to
Speaker 4: what's going on. And like the guys I grew up with,
Speaker 4: we would meet up once a year, so we've known
Speaker 4: each other since we were six or seven years old
Speaker 4: and throughout our twenties and for until people started getting
Speaker 4: married off and having kids. We would meet up once
Speaker 4: a year and just go on benders. Right, And we
Speaker 4: try and do it now and there's you know, only
Speaker 4: just a few of us still able to do it
Speaker 4: that you know, can actually get away long enough.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 4: And I've always been one of the ones pushing it,
Speaker 4: you know. But it changes, you know, it does the
Speaker 4: group dynamic shifts, people change, the fact that you grew
Speaker 4: up together. Obviously there's a shared history, but actually, I
Speaker 4: don't know, when you're brought together again, it's a great
Speaker 4: shorthand that you can just fall back into the same rhythms,
Speaker 4: which I think this movie does well. But everyone's so
Speaker 4: self absorbed that, you know, obviously motivations change and life
Speaker 4: outlooks and you know, obligations whatever. So I guess that
Speaker 4: it does do a good job of showing that people
Speaker 4: brought together by tragedy might take it either as William
Speaker 4: Hurt's character does Nick in a much more cynical way,
Speaker 4: or as Tom Behringers, where he's like, nope, we're together
Speaker 4: for life, even if we haven't seen each other for
Speaker 4: fifteen years. Right, Yeah, So yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 4: you felt that well.
Speaker 1: What I I think there's what I love about this film.
Speaker 1: I think there's a specialness to those who you share
Speaker 1: a life experience, like the life experience of growing up,
Speaker 1: or a certain period of time where you're still developing.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're always still developing, obviously, but you're
Speaker 1: going through so much. The world feels like your oyster
Speaker 1: and you are sharing these years. There's something and people
Speaker 1: who knew you and you knew them, and you may
Speaker 1: know you may not know anyone else liking you those
Speaker 1: people at that time. And then and like you said
Speaker 1: that the shorthand is the best expression, you know, like
Speaker 1: you had this shorthand with people. My mates are still
Speaker 1: my inner circle from you, high school, primary school, even
Speaker 1: kindergarten and a couple of examples. And we probably really
Speaker 1: only see each other as a group once a year.
Speaker 1: Now we're all in Australia. Your friends are back the state,
Speaker 1: in the state. It but when we do it's it's great.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. After it's usually a long lunch into
Speaker 1: the night. After that, I'm like, I don't need to
Speaker 1: see for another year. There's not a part of me
Speaker 1: that I'm like, I want to do this every week. No,
Speaker 1: and that maybe is what keeps it special because you
Speaker 1: all go off, and this is what the film reflects.
Speaker 1: You do go off in your different areas. And then
Speaker 1: that's what I say. We don't check in with them
Speaker 1: individually or you know, but as a group. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, once a year is fine.
Speaker 4: Okay, so that the movie does a good job of
Speaker 4: portraying that. But maybe my problem upon first viewing is that, say,
Speaker 4: another ensemble movie like Breakfast Club where all the characters
Speaker 4: change by the end, does anyone change in this movie?
Speaker 1: It's a good question.
Speaker 2: I don't do.
Speaker 4: I think like everyone's the exact same by the end.
Speaker 4: They're like, there's no arc.
Speaker 1: Could you argue that, Sarah and and Harold you sell
Speaker 1: the idea that this is closure of the transgressions? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sarah took with Alex right. I feel like what they're
Speaker 1: almost trying to say is this group is almost like
Speaker 1: a marriage because they've all slept with each other at
Speaker 1: varying times.
Speaker 4: If she does have a kid, she's good. That kid's
Speaker 4: gonna have to call Kevin Kline uncle dad.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's weird, which why hasn't there been a syncop called
Speaker 1: uncle Dad, Chuck lorget onto that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I guess there's some closure there, but
Speaker 4: I think everyone else just may and maybe that's the point.
Speaker 2: Everyone just goes on, you know what they're like, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's interesting when that happens, when you find a movie
Speaker 1: where the arc is not clear and the journey's not clear,
Speaker 1: but it's still worked. And this is, like I said,
Speaker 1: people love this movie. When you're watching it, were you're
Speaker 1: thinking of your dad?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I was thinking that. And the fact that
Speaker 4: you know, obviously it does speak to hippies turning into
Speaker 4: yuppies basically, and he that was probably his exact trajectory,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like he grew up in
Speaker 4: that time, and again why it struck a chord with him,
Speaker 4: and you know, I can't I'm going to see him
Speaker 4: in a few weeks and I'll say I finally watched
Speaker 4: The Big Chill and we could finally talk about it.
Speaker 2: So great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and knowing that he loves it, and then me,
Speaker 4: you know, I love getting a rise out of the
Speaker 4: old man, So I'll shit on it a little bit
Speaker 4: to see how he responds. But I now, after talking
Speaker 4: with you, even for the past hour about it, I
Speaker 4: do appreciate it more. The soundtrack in Search of a
Speaker 4: Movie that I said earlier was kind of based on
Speaker 4: the fact that it just didn't feel satisfying as a
Speaker 4: narrative or his story. It was just like, just say, okay,
Speaker 4: just a glimpse into people dealing with tragedy in their
Speaker 4: own either selfish ways or actually being more vocal about it.
Speaker 4: And so I guess. But again, Lawrence Kasden like going
Speaker 4: from these huge films to this, Like, I don't know
Speaker 4: really what he did post Big Chill, but I was like,
Speaker 4: because I knew he had done Star Wars and Anniana Jones,
Speaker 4: which you know, defining movies, you know that, I was like,
Speaker 4: maybe this isn't his lane.
Speaker 1: Wait did at movie Got Grand Canyon a few years later,
Speaker 1: and that was another big ensemble, And I have gone
Speaker 1: vague memories about Steve Martin's and it's a big ensemble,
Speaker 1: and that had similar vibes. Pretty I think he's got
Speaker 1: a pretty optimistic view of the world. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: I mean, I like a lot of this film. This film.
Speaker 1: It's even things like there's the line that I think
Speaker 1: Nick William Hitt's character four ss Instagram when he says
Speaker 1: he's sick of people selling their psyche for a little
Speaker 1: bit of attention.
Speaker 2: Oh there is that.
Speaker 4: I mean, that was kind of amazing that they keep
Speaker 4: filming each there and then watching it back immediately.
Speaker 2: I was like, that is.
Speaker 4: Definitely a premonition of our narcissism and what's to come.
Speaker 1: It's so weird how that, Like in the in the meetings,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're discussing the scripts and you're passing
Speaker 1: it around, and I'm sure somebody would have asked, why
Speaker 1: are they doing this? And I'll be fascinating and I
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, I'm not arguing against it, but I
Speaker 1: love to know how they came to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's almost like if they remade it now at twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four, big chill, it would be they'd all be
Speaker 4: doing selfie videos at the funeral, like, Hey, I'm just
Speaker 4: at my buddy's funeral.
Speaker 2: What up? You know?
Speaker 4: Smash that like a subscribe button, because that's like another
Speaker 4: form of now selfishness and narcissism and ego that that
Speaker 4: you know is on display in this movie. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 4: just the filming throughout I thought was interesting. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: it's amazing that I guess them watching it back immediately. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, they're self obsessed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Michael's character, who we do know is self obsessed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: records records him chatting with Sarah Glyn close and then
Speaker 1: they're watching about you, like, not just watching others interviews,
Speaker 1: it's themselves. Yeah again, so I think, yeah, there is.
Speaker 4: And a watcher back immediately you got to get the
Speaker 4: cassette out and go to the VCR player.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For young listeners, you don't know what goes in
Speaker 1: to making this this work.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The title of the film is one of the best titles.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I never knew what the Big Chill referred to. I
Speaker 1: thought it was an American thing, was a wind that
Speaker 1: came through a certain time, like the Fremantle Doctor. I
Speaker 1: think Lawrence Kasn has spoken about the big chill that
Speaker 1: you get when you realize, you know, the warm embrace
Speaker 1: of your your college friends no longer you know exists,
Speaker 1: or you've moved onto adulthood.
Speaker 4: Basically, Yeah, okay, i'd see. I didn't even realize he
Speaker 4: had said that. I just thought it was just death.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Big Chill is just another way of saying yeah,
Speaker 4: death and then yeah, I mean and then on a
Speaker 4: much more superficial level, they all hang out for a weekend,
Speaker 4: which is a big chill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know it was chill used to let
Speaker 1: that back in ninety three, probably, Yeah, but I do
Speaker 1: like it. Certainly he's going to play a pout in
Speaker 1: the big chill to keep chilling, still.
Speaker 2: Chill, still chilling, chilling.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do love that. There's one more gred that
Speaker 1: I want to play again. It's in that same way
Speaker 1: they're all they're all chatting, that's growing up listening.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what happened to Alex. At least we expected
Speaker 3: something to beat others, and I think we needed.
Speaker 8: That about me getting away from you people, the best
Speaker 8: thing ever happened to me. I mean, how much sex, fun, friendship,
Speaker 8: and one man take.
Speaker 7: To get out in the world get dirty?
Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you. I think Sam is right.
Speaker 4: I mean there was something in me then that you know,
Speaker 4: made me want to go to Harlem and teach those
Speaker 4: ghetto kids.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I was going to help the scum.
Speaker 7: That's so compassionately refer to them.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 8: Some of them are scum, some of us are scum.
Speaker 1: Oh so, so what's thrust here? Great Venom's ship. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't buy that that's not what we're seeing.
Speaker 2: Harold, you know that I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just i'd hate to think that it was all
Speaker 4: just fashion.
Speaker 1: What our commitment, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Well, you accomplish things.
Speaker 1: All the evidence of the contracy.
Speaker 4: You're just taking a position.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think I've put that time down, pretended it
Speaker 1: wasn't real, just so I can live with how I am.
Speaker 2: Now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8: Nick helped me with these bleeding hearts.
Speaker 1: I know what do alecs would say? What what's for dessert? There?
Speaker 1: It is the great life of Meg Tilly playing Chloe.
Speaker 4: I just realized everything she says could be filtered through Okay, boomer.
Speaker 1: Right, Well that's what I mean early about It's just
Speaker 1: it's one of the handy thing is it's it's a
Speaker 1: generation judging another generation. I think it's such a great
Speaker 1: device because there's obviously a version of this movie where
Speaker 1: Alex was going out with a woman of the same age,
Speaker 1: and that's a different thing. But the fact that she
Speaker 1: is younger, of a different generation is great. I think
Speaker 1: there is something there. Don't have been people in their twenties
Speaker 1: who love this movie when it came out even maybe
Speaker 1: like teenagers, and there's something kind of weirdly even though
Speaker 1: they're kind of going through this period of grief and
Speaker 1: it's a little bit fucked up, but there's something aspirational
Speaker 1: about it, even if it's justesthetically about dancing with your
Speaker 1: friends in a kitchen while you're having dinner parties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is something that I'm sure a lot of people just
Speaker 1: hooked into that as much as they did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some of the grimmer stuff, oh yeah, definitely. And
Speaker 4: I mean you need that levity for a film that's
Speaker 4: essentially about a good friend committing suicide. Yeah, right, And
Speaker 4: so yeah, those scenes, like I said, the Tonal chefs
Speaker 4: a bit daring for me, but I think it's yea
Speaker 4: necessary in a movie. If it was just like seven
Speaker 4: friends sitting around crying the whole time, you'd be like,
Speaker 4: I can't watch this.
Speaker 1: There's some really funny moments played, some of them in
Speaker 1: the car and at the funeral. Some of the dialogue
Speaker 1: is almost sulken Esque in a way when it's really
Speaker 1: popping during those lands rooms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they make Tom Berringer look like a bit of
Speaker 4: an idiot when she's like I wanna I want you
Speaker 4: to father my child because you have good jeans, and
Speaker 4: then he stares at.
Speaker 2: Him for a few seconds.
Speaker 1: I reckon that one might have been, let's just try this,
Speaker 1: and he's really okay, we won't use it, but okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you what you want. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be difficult. Tom Burrow actually end up buying property in
Speaker 1: the area because he loved the area so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mentioned earlier that Glenn Close was
Speaker 1: the only actor who got nominated. Should anyone else been nominated?
Speaker 4: Kevin Caster, the way they dressed his body, you know,
Speaker 4: for the for the funeral.
Speaker 1: Jonathan cast was very good in the bath. He's performance
Speaker 1: of Dvid and I was a bull from very good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It bookands with that as well. Yeah, at the final song,
Speaker 1: here's the actual version of David, I was a booth true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 4: It comes full circle to me. The I mean, she
Speaker 4: does definitely get the medias things with the crying in
Speaker 4: the shower, and as she also gets the polar opposite
Speaker 4: of that moment where she's high on coke and like
Speaker 4: rambling in the bed about selling the business. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: another thing I did like about this movie and might
Speaker 4: have been groundbreaking at the time. Is recreational drug use
Speaker 4: and not shown as as vilified or like whoever's doing
Speaker 4: drugs is like, you know, gonna end up a junkie,
Speaker 4: just like hanging out and doing drugs. Yeah, like pre
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty three, was that in any.
Speaker 1: Other movies, you know, not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 4: Because when they when William hurt is driving up in
Speaker 4: the car and he's popping kayludes, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: he's gonna and there's gonna be an intervention thing. But
Speaker 4: there never is.
Speaker 1: They're not.
Speaker 4: They're always like can I get a lude or you know, like.
Speaker 1: Donk go to the areas? Like I said that the
Speaker 1: Vietnam veteran thing isn't really you know, played, His drug
Speaker 1: use isn't played. It is this all Yeah, it's all fun.
Speaker 1: And I think you know, Alex, we spoke about it,
Speaker 1: I know, earlier, but I think they it's at the
Speaker 1: right tone, you know, like he's a friend, Yes it was,
Speaker 1: it's been fifteen years or whatever. So I feel like
Speaker 1: that allows them to have this humor that runs throughout
Speaker 1: it and for some of them to be more upset
Speaker 1: than others, even though it's sad. Nobody's denying that, but
Speaker 1: you know, some have moved on more than others. And
Speaker 1: obviously Alex sorry Glenn closest character, Sarah is the most
Speaker 1: effective because they did have a relationship, yeah, not that long,
Speaker 1: you know ago.
Speaker 4: So I would say William Hurt's character, I think, so, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's the most I don't think it's Kevin
Speaker 1: Klein one, because he accidently keeps out a little bit.
Speaker 1: There's where I thought, Oh, is he sudden? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: Jeff Goldbloom probably not. He's good, he's good. He's Jeff
Speaker 1: Goblin and being great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And like I said, but I think William Hit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely. And like I said, what really didn't
Speaker 4: work for me was the other two female characters, Karen
Speaker 4: and Meg Meg who one just wants to get pregnant
Speaker 4: and the other one just as in a happy marriage.
Speaker 2: It just seemed a little one note.
Speaker 1: The Karen character felt very like she was in a
Speaker 1: soaper opera. Yeah, delivery of some of the lines felt
Speaker 1: a bit soapy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. And Tom Berringer's character is just like, okay,
Speaker 4: all right, whatever. He was kind of like brushing her
Speaker 4: off and then you know, then they're hooking up at
Speaker 4: the end. I don't know that just didn't hit, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I definitely William Hurt probably delivers the second best performance,
Speaker 4: if not the best performance.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's as strongest Glen closest performance. And
Speaker 1: a special shout out to make Tilly, who I thought
Speaker 1: was awesome and I really haven't seen her in much
Speaker 1: at all after that.
Speaker 4: I think she was in the Bride of Chucky with
Speaker 4: Jennifer Tilly, right, yeah, yeah, so she got her sister
Speaker 4: on board for a modern classic.
Speaker 1: And then Jennifer til Griva. Actors often have I've had
Speaker 1: actors speak about having the nemesis, the acting nemesis. So
Speaker 1: it's quite possible that that make Tilly's acting nemesis is
Speaker 1: actually he's.
Speaker 2: A gentlemen, Right, who's your stand up nemesis?
Speaker 4: Here we go, here's the real, the real shit people
Speaker 4: want to hear. Oh yeah, mine too, he said, one
Speaker 4: of the worst dudes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the shore. I mean I probably do have one.
Speaker 1: I wait that three year. I'll come back with an
Speaker 1: anton next week.
Speaker 4: So the thing that I've been thinking about it since
Speaker 4: you said it that it is a fifteen year gap
Speaker 4: and then like some people are just a place in
Speaker 4: a time, Like they went to the University of Michigan for.
Speaker 2: Four years together.
Speaker 4: Right, Like we have buddies we've known since we were kids.
Speaker 4: There's a shared history there. But people you just knew
Speaker 4: for four years that were just in the same proximity
Speaker 4: as you, and then you haven't seen one of them
Speaker 4: in fifteen years, Like you wouldn't invite that dude to
Speaker 4: your wedding.
Speaker 1: No, it is, I think it is. There's something about
Speaker 1: when you if you would lose somebody from that period,
Speaker 1: that golden period of your life that is just been embalmed,
Speaker 1: and and that's when you think about your life, that's
Speaker 1: almost a period where you might think that was my
Speaker 1: happiest I think when Close says, you know, I was
Speaker 1: the best version of myself with with with you guys.
Speaker 1: So there's a an idealistic, you know, utopia about that time.
Speaker 1: And it's like I have it with my my friends
Speaker 1: that I went to school with. I also have it
Speaker 1: with my generation of stand ups that kind of came
Speaker 1: through together. You know, your Hughes and Rove and will
Speaker 1: and and and you know quite a few others. We
Speaker 1: know there's a time that we went through something together.
Speaker 1: We're starting out. They were a college, we were starting
Speaker 1: stand up. A lot of us had come from different
Speaker 1: parts of the country, not me hang around in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was exciting and that felt like and
Speaker 1: I still have you know, know that you when you started,
Speaker 1: you have your your call. Yeah, like fact, you're going
Speaker 1: to open nights together. You're not sure if you can
Speaker 1: actually do it yet, yeah, you know, and and and
Speaker 1: you're excited to talk about material and then you know
Speaker 1: and and and speak to somebody who you know you
Speaker 1: may have seen around the traps, you know.
Speaker 4: So oh yeah, you see like Facebook memories come up
Speaker 4: and there's a picture of like you doing stand up
Speaker 4: when you first started, and you're like, holy shit, the
Speaker 4: different trajectories we've been on, right, Yeah, Like that guy
Speaker 4: is like super famous and crushing it in the States,
Speaker 4: that guy is now a lady.
Speaker 2: That guy got me.
Speaker 4: Too, you know what I mean. You're like, holy shit,
Speaker 4: it's so bizarre. But there is still a connection that
Speaker 4: you know, like, yeah, you come up in a time
Speaker 4: and a place and when you start stand up, I
Speaker 4: feel like it's such a intense, you know, passionate thing
Speaker 4: that Yeah, there's a connection there.
Speaker 1: Well, so I think stand up even more so when
Speaker 1: you go to college, you know, you if you do
Speaker 1: the work, you should be able to you know, if
Speaker 1: you choose to make it living out of it. Stand up,
Speaker 1: we're all starting not knowing if we could do it,
Speaker 1: you know, to begin with. And what I love about
Speaker 1: stand up, and I think why stand ups get, you know,
Speaker 1: become very close, is because we all started. Every stand
Speaker 1: up comedian started the exact same way, which is walking
Speaker 1: to a microphone in a bar somewhere, not knowing if
Speaker 1: they could do it. There's no other way you can start.
Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld did that, Mike Alsten did that, Pet Hally
Speaker 1: did that. Every I'm still doing it. Yeah, no, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you've passed now. I think you can go
Speaker 1: to the next level.
Speaker 4: Mike, Oh dude, I'm gonna open mic material going what
Speaker 4: has happened?
Speaker 1: Oh no, But you know you are right when you're
Speaker 1: when you're building a new show where people say, is
Speaker 1: it hard to be a stand up I'm like, well no,
Speaker 1: you know, like you do it for long enough, but
Speaker 1: then when you're going out to do maybe ten fifteen,
Speaker 1: twenty minutes a new for a new show that you
Speaker 1: want to test that material and they might be in
Speaker 1: front of thirty people. You know, He's like, this is
Speaker 1: hard man.
Speaker 4: I should tell you you were actually a formative presence
Speaker 4: in my early stand up because uh, it probably went
Speaker 4: through agents and stuff. But I was your support act
Speaker 4: in Perth at the Astro Theater in like two thousand, two.
Speaker 2: Thousand and eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it was my first theater gig
Speaker 4: and I think I was just doing like a seven
Speaker 4: minute spot, which for me was a stretch at the time,
Speaker 4: and I was so fucking nervous, right, like lost sleep
Speaker 4: the night before, like almost over rehearsed my seven minutes
Speaker 4: and the gigs went great. I think we did two shows,
Speaker 4: but yeah, first ever theater gig, and I was, yeah,
Speaker 4: so I don't know if you knew that, but.
Speaker 1: That was not I wouldn't have remember that, but now
Speaker 1: you say it, yeah, I'm like, cause I remember. We
Speaker 1: haven't hung out a whole bunch, but I when we
Speaker 1: kind of you spend a bit more time together a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, there was a familiarity about you.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's kind before that those would
Speaker 1: go gigs and yeah, sorry about you. Know, like John
Speaker 1: into your head before the gig and this dude, it
Speaker 1: was crazy, fuck me so much, don't fuck me up.
Speaker 1: I gotta go on off.
Speaker 2: You said it and you just go.
Speaker 4: Don't talk about sex or do any swear words because
Speaker 4: that's all my act is. And you said I don't
Speaker 4: want you to step on my toes.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah.
Speaker 2: I did that. Or Rob Schneider did say that to
Speaker 2: me though, Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I opened for him and he didn't want anything filthy,
Speaker 4: and I thought it was because the whole show was
Speaker 4: going to be clean, but it's because he didn't want
Speaker 4: me to fuck up his TV.
Speaker 1: I don't often have supports, but it is interesting when
Speaker 1: you it's something that you wouldn't mind knowing. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be on the night thing. It should be like,
Speaker 1: you know, well before well before you know, if you
Speaker 1: can stay away from these topics, and it could usually
Speaker 1: would be in my instance, it would be, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to cover these topics, yeah before if possible that
Speaker 1: you don't go in these areas.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the difference.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, relationships, the difference being you want out and
Speaker 4: crushed and Rob Schneider started bombing and the Perth crowd
Speaker 4: a heckled you can do it at him for about
Speaker 4: thirty minutes until he lost his mind, which was.
Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing. Happy Gilmore too on its way. Yeah that's happening, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike gold Scene. This podcast comes with homework. You've watched
Speaker 1: A Big Chill twice.
Speaker 2: I watched it twice.
Speaker 1: That is commitment to the cause. You don't quite make
Speaker 1: the Jane Kennedy club of watching the Lord of the
Speaker 1: Rings trilogy a director's cut eleven and a half hours
Speaker 1: of prep Jane did for this podcast. We're only gonna
Speaker 1: discuss the first film, but she went out, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch him watch them all. But I do appreciate it. Mate.
Speaker 1: We got to hang out on the hundred recently, which
Speaker 1: would be an episode which I believe we'll go to
Speaker 1: air next season. Yeah, which that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You are killing it on that with Andy, Dude.
Speaker 4: It was great to have you on like that was
Speaker 4: just I love it when it's all comics on the
Speaker 4: panel and then because it's just bouncing off each other
Speaker 4: and riffing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it should be. You know, we'll see
Speaker 2: how they added it, but yeah.
Speaker 1: It's such a fun show a format that I think
Speaker 1: Andy helped the eyes and it's likely another local great
Speaker 1: UZI format.
Speaker 4: And somehow you got out of a theme episode because
Speaker 4: the one we recorded straight after was Hughsey dress as
Speaker 4: a dog and he dress as a giant chicken.
Speaker 1: That was so funny to see. And you show me
Speaker 1: the costumes. Oh no, they've really gone for it. It's
Speaker 1: not your some kind of mascot for his department store.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And for some reason Andy was just dressed like in
Speaker 4: a Safari outfit.
Speaker 2: I was like, are you are you hunting us? What is?
Speaker 2: I don't get the what? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All that is to be seene And you have your podcast,
Speaker 1: your podcast.
Speaker 4: I have a podcast called the Phone Hacks podcast where
Speaker 4: we get comedians on and we all swap phones and
Speaker 4: go through notes, draft to tweets, camera roll or search history.
Speaker 4: You've been the target of hacks I got.
Speaker 1: I got a message yeah from Damien Powell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which was like sexy Shrek.
Speaker 1: Is like a completely ripped Shrek and the same thing like, hey,
Speaker 1: how's he saying?
Speaker 2: And to be honest, you saw through us.
Speaker 1: I saw. I'm like, you know, there's some kind of
Speaker 1: podcasting going on here or there's some, there's some. It's
Speaker 1: too weird that Damien Power has sent me this I
Speaker 1: do have We'll get messages and gonna go yeah, this
Speaker 1: is this is part of a radio stunt or suspect.
Speaker 4: I think anyone who's done radio sees right through our
Speaker 4: So yeah, we do hacks at the end, not necessarily
Speaker 4: every episode. And that was damn he had sexy Shrek
Speaker 4: to But if you want to get on and then
Speaker 4: you'll send like a sexy Shrek back to Damno.
Speaker 1: Although would be sweet, you might see through it. You
Speaker 1: may have forgotten. Yeah, Damien, he lives a life.
Speaker 2: He does.
Speaker 1: Mate, thank you so much. We'll see you on one
Speaker 1: hundred phone Hack the podcast. Check it out, mate, thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us, thanks for having me, and we'll see
Speaker 1: you for Big che The Big Chill Too.
Speaker 2: Still Chilling, Still Chilling.
Speaker 4: The Way to from a Tree.
Speaker 1: There it is the Big Chill, looking forward to The
Speaker 1: Big Chill Too, Still Chilling. Mike Goldseen is working on
Speaker 1: the script as we speak. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I think they're some of my favorite episodes when the
Speaker 1: guest is a little unsure or a bit apathetic about
Speaker 1: what they thought of the film, but then slowly comes around,
Speaker 1: and that's I think the power of being able to
Speaker 1: chat about a movie after we see it so many
Speaker 1: times these days, with so much content, and we went
Speaker 1: through movies and TV series and don't often have the
Speaker 1: chance to reflect on them. And it's not the first
Speaker 1: time somebody's coming to the U ain't see nothing yet
Speaker 1: studios and being a bit lukewarm about a movie, but
Speaker 1: has then grown as the conversation has gone on, and
Speaker 1: I love it and I really look forward to I
Speaker 1: was chatting to Mike a little bit off air when
Speaker 1: he does speak with his dad, to know how that
Speaker 1: conversation goes, what his dad thinks, his opinion of the movie.
Speaker 1: The movie is both its strengths and weaknesses all am
Speaker 1: I being a fly on the wall of that conversation.
Speaker 1: Thanks Mike. Check him out one hundred and his Phone
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Speaker 1: Ain't Seen Nothing yet another comedian. We love our comedians here.
Speaker 1: We're largely comedy based as far as our guests go,
Speaker 1: like we get a little bit of a different site
Speaker 1: to them sometimes as well, not exclusively. We've had wonderful
Speaker 1: actors come through here and musicians, but we haven't a
Speaker 1: comedian coming through who I have really enjoyed watching over
Speaker 1: the last more than five years, getting closer to ten years.
Speaker 1: Ben Coschen will be in the studio. Ben is the
Speaker 1: partner of Concertta Christa who I did Task Master with recently,
Speaker 1: and I only mentioned that because it came up in
Speaker 1: that episode. Ben's his own man, you know. But Concetta
Speaker 1: did mention that he doesn't particularly like old movies, and
Speaker 1: it made me think, what does constitute an old movie?
Speaker 1: When is a movie considered old? And I obviously have
Speaker 1: quite a few years on Ben, So the movies that
Speaker 1: I watched, as you know, growing up, they're leaving their
Speaker 1: own little time capsule, and I don't think of them
Speaker 1: as old. So when a movie from like nine to
Speaker 1: eighty seven, is that an old movie? I mean, technically, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like thirty five years, thirty seven years old or something.
Speaker 1: If I was in nine and eighty seven as a
Speaker 1: twelve ye old watching a thirty seven year old movie, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be old. There'll be an old movie that
Speaker 1: meant it would have been made like in the fifties
Speaker 1: or something. So yeah, it took me a while to
Speaker 1: get my head around the fact that Ben thought the
Speaker 1: movie I was pitching was in fact an old movie,
Speaker 1: because I was thinking, like, let's go black and white,
Speaker 1: let's go on the waterfront. Maybe, but we're not doing that,
Speaker 1: We're doing a classic movie. That's important, I think because
Speaker 1: it's a movie that announced the silver screen arrival of
Speaker 1: one of the greatest comedic talents of our times. It's
Speaker 1: Robin Williams, and he'd done the TV and he stand
Speaker 1: up TV with Walker Mindy, but he really arrived on
Speaker 1: the silver screen when he made Good Morning Vietnam. It's
Speaker 1: a movie that I love. I've watched this many times.
Speaker 1: Bruno Kirby is fantastic in this movie. The whole cast
Speaker 1: is fantastic. Forest Whitaker is brilliant. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on in this movie, a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to Ben to watch it and we can
Speaker 1: be this so kin the genius that was Robin Williams.
Speaker 1: Next week on. You ain't seen nothing yet until then,
Speaker 1: back and out. And so we leave Old Pete save
Speaker 1: fan Sult, and to our friends of the radio audience,
Speaker 1: we've been a pleasant, good day.