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Speaker 1: FIS shows were in disbelief. Earlier in the week the

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Speaker 1: NT News had posted were published, I should say, some

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Speaker 1: photos of a couple of keen anglers, but they were

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Speaker 1: in Crock Notorious waters having a fish. They were standing

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Speaker 1: sort of waste deep in this body of water. We

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Speaker 1: know that it was Shoal Bay revealed as the location

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Speaker 1: in which they were standing their waste deep in this water.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think, in goodness, man,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they were locals or not, and would

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Speaker 1: you actually stand in that water if you knew what

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Speaker 1: was in there? So we are going to catch up.

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Speaker 1: Well actually joining us on the line right now. I'm

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Speaker 1: very pleased to say that we have got from NT

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Speaker 1: Parks and Wildlife Crop Management Unit, Senior Ranger Ian Hunt.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Ian.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. Here are you going?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really good mate. Good to have you on the show. Hey,

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Speaker 1: when I saw these photos in the NT News earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week of this couple of anglers in what

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Speaker 1: is Krop Notorious, I've got to tell you I was

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Speaker 1: pretty surprised that people would stand in that waist deep water,

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to catch fish when we all know

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Speaker 1: what is in the waters in the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Sadly, it becomes an all too common

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Speaker 2: sight nowadays. People are taking risks that are completely unnecessary.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to get the message out there, and we

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Speaker 2: all seem to think that we know that these are

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Speaker 2: crop waters and we're in croc territory, but we still

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Speaker 2: see behavior that tells that people aren't getting the message.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is the thing, right, You do sort

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Speaker 1: of start to see vision of people going in waters

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Speaker 1: where that are croc infested, and even in locations where

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Speaker 1: they're then fishing. So my understanding is that the photos

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Speaker 1: were taken at Shoal Bay. Is that I mean, it

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Speaker 1: is an area that's quite notorious, isn't it for having crocs?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was taken at Shoal Bay, we believe, and

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Speaker 2: that is an area that falls within the crocodile management zone.

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Speaker 2: But as we say, even though we're managing the crocodiles

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Speaker 2: in that area, doesn't mean the crocodiles aren't there, and

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Speaker 2: we do get quite a lot of sightings through that

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Speaker 2: area of larger crocodiles, and we've removed I think twenty

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Speaker 2: crocodiles from the Shore Bay area this year, so they're

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Speaker 2: definitely around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so about twenty from that area. How are things going,

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Speaker 1: How the numbers going in some of our other areas

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Speaker 1: at the moment.

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Speaker 2: In Yeah, it's kind of a pretty normal for a

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Speaker 2: year for us. We've removed about two hundred crocodiles from

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Speaker 2: the Crocodar and Management Zone this year, which is kind

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Speaker 2: of sitting on average. You'd expect to see that by

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Speaker 2: about May. The numbers seem to normally drop a little

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Speaker 2: bit through the dry season as it starts to cool down,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, we're normally on track to get between ten

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty and three hundred crocodiles removed every year.

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Speaker 1: Are there any areas that are more prevalent or is

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Speaker 1: it just a matter of, you know, removing quite a

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Speaker 1: large number of crocodiles all the time from everywhere.

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Speaker 2: It changes throughout the year. Obviously, when the floodwaters are up,

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Speaker 2: we start to get a lot more crocs moving into

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Speaker 2: Culvitz and that's where we're concentrating out our areas during

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Speaker 2: the wet season when people are doing fishing in those areas,

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Speaker 2: and then during the cooler months you start to see

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Speaker 2: a lot less animals in those areas because the water's

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Speaker 2: dried up and they're back into the permanent water bodies.

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Speaker 2: But there's no hot spots. I would say that crocodiles

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Speaker 2: move around everywhere, and they're fund in every waterway.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of you know, your advice for people,

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Speaker 1: I know you guys are out there all the time

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Speaker 1: sort of reminding people to be crock wise. But do

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Speaker 1: you think sometimes maybe people think if the area is managed,

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Speaker 1: that it's all right to jump in.

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Speaker 2: Still, I think that is probably what's happening. I think

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Speaker 2: people are starting to think that because it's a managed area,

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Speaker 2: that the risk isn't there, and we're just trying to

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Speaker 2: get out that the risk is still there, but it's

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Speaker 2: a lot lower than it would be if there was

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Speaker 2: no management taking place. And we are trying our hardest,

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Speaker 2: but we need the public to work with us and

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Speaker 2: not put themselves at risk. You know, you can still

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Speaker 2: go out and enjoy the waterways and then have a

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Speaker 2: fish and have a good time, but just don't take

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Speaker 2: unnecessary risks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it just it does seem to be something

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Speaker 1: that we see happen, you know, quite often, not all

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Speaker 1: the time, I guess, but you do tend to sometimes

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Speaker 1: bit more actually in recent weeks, you know, even down

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Speaker 1: having a bit of a swim.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And so people still do get out

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Speaker 2: and want to enjoy the top end lifetime and enjoy

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Speaker 2: the waterways. But we just need to remind people that

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Speaker 2: the risk is never down to zero. You're still in

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Speaker 2: crocodile habitat and crocs are still moving through even through

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Speaker 2: the die season, So just be aware of the risks

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Speaker 2: when you, yeah, are in and around waterways well in t.

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Speaker 1: Parks and wildlife croc management units. Senior Ranger, Ian Hunt,

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Speaker 1: good to speak with you this morning, mate, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you for having me. Katie, thanks to you too,