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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast. Happy Wednesday, guys. I have

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<v Speaker 1>the strangest like my arse muscles and fires really hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>You're breaking down. You got the ulcer?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got an ulcer, But like, what was I

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<v Speaker 1>doing in order to have Like were you sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the chair?

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<v Speaker 2>Funny? No, No, this is like.

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<v Speaker 1>A strain injury. Like what the hell was I doing

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to get into it? I want.

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<v Speaker 1>That feels like a gateway, I know, like a hubole brag. No,

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<v Speaker 1>like my like, I'm trying to think, talk us through. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so my let me just sit off of a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Might see what I was doing for this hurt?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's kind of on all fours and she and

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<v Speaker 3>Fumi is like taking her knee from a twelve o'clock

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<v Speaker 3>position to a three o'clock position and back to twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>So now Freumi is back in a squat position. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's more like a wrap squat, so one knee to

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<v Speaker 3>the ground and one knee to the sky. And now

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<v Speaker 3>she's kind of arch her back outwards. She seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be in pain, but she's not. But also she's giggling

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<v Speaker 3>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>No idea what I was doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Why were you in those positions?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go guys. This is flex and Firms on Kaita.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this might be the juiciest pr nightmare

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<v Speaker 3>that I have shared.

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<v Speaker 2>With the show in two years.

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<v Speaker 3>It's bad and bad in a sense that it's completely avoidable,

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<v Speaker 3>but with real life consequences. So we all know what's

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<v Speaker 3>happening with Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift. If we pretend

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<v Speaker 3>nothing in studious is happening and it's above board. They're

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<v Speaker 3>in a new relationship. They're both at the top of

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<v Speaker 3>their game, so when they come together, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful affair. Now, if we go one degree deeper,

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<v Speaker 3>people start to question the legitimacy of this relationship because

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<v Speaker 3>of their superstar status and that usually people with this

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<v Speaker 3>much prestige would keep things under wraps a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they wouldn't be publicizing every second thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you're someone like Taylor Swift and you need to get

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<v Speaker 3>security clearance to go anywhere. It's odd that you'd be

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<v Speaker 3>publicizing yourself with a new person so often.

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<v Speaker 2>If it wasn't for some kind of like material game.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>People are claiming that Travis Kelcey is the one for

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<v Speaker 3>miss Swift because he's shown in so many ways that

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<v Speaker 3>he's fiercely protective. I don't know about all this, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>not following closely enough, so much so that apparently he's

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<v Speaker 3>fired his publicist because of what she did to Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 3>So this publicist, her name is Piare, and she was

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<v Speaker 3>doing a bit of an ig story birthday run down.

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<v Speaker 3>She was reposting pictures that people have posted of her

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<v Speaker 3>onto her profile because it was her birthday. It happens,

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen it plenty of times, No big deal. However,

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<v Speaker 3>she reposts a photo of her in a group photo

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<v Speaker 3>with Taylor Swift a couple other people, and she puts

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<v Speaker 3>a clown emoji on Taylor Swift's face, a clown emoji

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<v Speaker 3>of all the emojis to pick you put a clown emo?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you not the publicist? Is it not your job

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<v Speaker 3>to ensure that the messaging around this relationship is not

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<v Speaker 3>just overwhelmingly positive, but not unnecessarily tainted by parties who

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<v Speaker 3>should not be considered. We shouldn't even know about the publicist.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, it should be a secret kind of

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<v Speaker 3>role for real, but so much so that this publicist

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<v Speaker 3>with not very many followers, who should be quite incognito,

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<v Speaker 3>has gone as far as the post.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, the thing about.

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<v Speaker 3>Being a publicist is you are ten steps ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else for a reason. You recognize that every decision

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<v Speaker 3>you make is for a very particular outcome, which means

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<v Speaker 3>there is no falling through the cracks, especially not for

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<v Speaker 3>a sports publicist. Okay, a sports publicist. I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 3>the person you hire to ensure that your image is

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<v Speaker 3>squeaky clean bring you into disrepute. It's messy, it's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 3>And think about if you're a celebrity on this scale,

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<v Speaker 3>of all the things you have to deal with, all

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<v Speaker 3>the fires you gotta put out, it's from your own backyard,

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<v Speaker 3>your frontline soldier, ruining a reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I still have doubts about this relationship, only because it's

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<v Speaker 3>fun to speculate. But if they're in love, I love

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<v Speaker 3>it for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized the other day when I was preparing for

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<v Speaker 1>a show, that it's been a while since we've shared

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<v Speaker 1>some knowledge with the class. I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 1>got here. I think I was on Reddit somehow, and

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<v Speaker 1>I came across the idea that there's more than like

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<v Speaker 1>one type of animal in terms of I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>every animal sleeps at night. Yeah, just off the top

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<v Speaker 1>of my dormas. And I've always wonder like, where do

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<v Speaker 1>sharks go to sleep?

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<v Speaker 2>What about bats? Bo?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they do sleep during the day. But it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out there are all different types of animals, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to share with the class. So humans sleep at

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<v Speaker 1>night and are awake during the day. That means they

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<v Speaker 1>are diurinal. So they reckon most animals first of all

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<v Speaker 1>to be di urinal, especially even the nocturnal ones. Advanced

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<v Speaker 1>color and vivid vision isn't an adaptation of diural animals,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why like animals that sleep and I can

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<v Speaker 1>only see kind of black and white vibes. Allegedly, animals

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<v Speaker 1>that mainly rely on vision to hunt for food are

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<v Speaker 1>usually diurinal. Oh, and they include humans, emuse, reptiles, pollinator

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<v Speaker 1>insects like bees, and primates. Then we've got nocturnal animals.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all seen what those are, bats, bandicoots, bilbies, cane, toads, crocodile, dingo, fly, fox, kangaroo, koala, platypus, possum,

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<v Speaker 1>quocker and quoal. We're talking old.

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<v Speaker 2>Tasmani volas are nocturnal allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why at the zoo they're so sleepy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I just went to a koala sanctuary and

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<v Speaker 2>they're away. It was in the morning and they were.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh okay, they said, koala mostly in brackets. Okay, they

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<v Speaker 1>sleep eighteen to twenty hours a day. Mikayla said, so.

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<v Speaker 2>We caught them at a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Australian snakes, for example, though, are both nocturnal.

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<v Speaker 1>Under diurinal, then we've got crepuscular. Crepuscular animals are those

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<v Speaker 1>that are active primarily during twilight, and they're different from

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<v Speaker 1>the daylight and the darkness are animals. The term is

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<v Speaker 1>not precise, however, as some crepuscular animals may also be

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<v Speaker 1>active in moonlight or on an overcast day. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>giving vampire that don't want to be in the sun, bats, hamsters, cats, dogs, rabbits,

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<v Speaker 1>ferrets and rats. So I'm seeing some overlap here, But

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<v Speaker 1>essentially they're animals that like that's when their prey is out,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when they're most likely not to be preyed upon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we're getting. We've got two more types skies.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually three different types. Three more verse for time

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<v Speaker 1>that indicates something of or related to or occurring in

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<v Speaker 1>the evening. They include moths and beetles. They are creatures

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<v Speaker 1>that become active at dusks, like bats and owls. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we've got two more matutinal in ecology. Mattutinal crepascular animals

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<v Speaker 1>are those that significy active during pre dawn and early hours,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's giving rotating shift, it's giving shift work. The

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<v Speaker 1>final one is cathermal ca. Thermal animals have sporadic and

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<v Speaker 1>irregular active spurts during both day and night. Lions and

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<v Speaker 1>some species of lima are known for being carmrphical. Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to flex and Rooms on Kaita. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>getting real big into my book bag recently. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>watched something in ages on TV. I did watch The

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<v Speaker 1>Invention of Lying last night, the Ricky Jervass movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>side note, I realized that his show Afterlife, which is

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix, is so heavily inspired by that movie. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many motifs, like he's always like sitting with

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<v Speaker 1>someone on a bench, like there's like mother's dying and

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<v Speaker 1>father's dying and stuff. I think it's good to see,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the creative industry, like someone's trajectory from like

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<v Speaker 1>creating one movie that's really brilliant into a show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't even know Ricky Javas did movies, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was a comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>He is comedian actor.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in the office, so he's acting in movie.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not his movies, he's just acting in them.

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<v Speaker 1>With Afterlife, it was his show, like he made it

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<v Speaker 1>an acted in it. He's definitely that kind of guy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He also like was real big on Twitter back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. He might still be anyway. Sustainable books, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always looking ways to cut corners and save money. And

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<v Speaker 1>my recent hack is a website called World of Books.

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<v Speaker 1>If you listen to this and you love books and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't mind something that's like a little bit dirty

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<v Speaker 1>or not even dirty, just something that's like not fresh

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<v Speaker 1>off the shelves, not got that fresh book smell, go

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<v Speaker 1>to World of Books. It's an Australian website. We can

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<v Speaker 1>buy secondhand books for way less than the recommended retail

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<v Speaker 1>price and I really like it. Not only because it's cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>That's obviously the number one thing, but it's really it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a sustainable way to get knowledge. And I also

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<v Speaker 1>like that it has free shipping.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is totally not sponsored. It's just something that like,

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<v Speaker 1>I literally buy books all the time, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought to find a site like this.

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<v Speaker 2>He basally good with new releases or not particularly.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't checked. But that's the other thing is I'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>if there is a new release by an author that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to support, it's better to buy a new

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<v Speaker 1>because then.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just buy an e book.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do like look a books on my shelf.

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<v Speaker 3>The topic of making friends breaking up with friends does

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<v Speaker 3>not clog up the internet enough. I think if we

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<v Speaker 3>did a little bit of a one to eighty switch

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<v Speaker 3>and for every person who talks about dating, talk about friendships,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that we'll see a few development in

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<v Speaker 3>that area. For one, I think that we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>enough terminology around friendships. People find it really offensive to

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<v Speaker 3>be called an acquaintance. I think that's just a beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>way to describe someone who you have a pleasant relationship with,

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<v Speaker 3>who you don't feel responsible for. But alas in due time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of phrases will be made, like

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<v Speaker 3>what's the ghosting bread crummy equivalents for friendships?

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<v Speaker 2>They're different.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a different kind of ghostings, different kind of bread crumbing.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody cares enough to create terms, so maybe I will.

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<v Speaker 3>On my TikTok feed, there was a creator called mum

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<v Speaker 3>a taz is Alive and they were talking about making

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<v Speaker 3>friends with women in particular, and how they found that

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<v Speaker 3>the blanket advice wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really helpful because people.

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<v Speaker 3>Often talk aspirationally about what they would do in certain situations,

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<v Speaker 3>but don't really think about what the reality is like.

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<v Speaker 3>So she created a list of tips making friends with women.

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<v Speaker 3>The first tip is to not complain about your old

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<v Speaker 3>friends or your other friends, which I think is something

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<v Speaker 3>that people would struggle with. A big part of making

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<v Speaker 3>new friends is commiserating. Is to talk about things in

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<v Speaker 3>your life that aren't really going so well, or areas

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<v Speaker 3>in which you make comparisons to validate somebody else, like oh,

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<v Speaker 3>my goodness, it's a lovely to hear from you, like

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<v Speaker 3>I never hear from my friends this much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Little digs or things like that that might give you

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<v Speaker 3>the impression that you're making this person feel like you're close,

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<v Speaker 3>but realistically your position yourself is not really that great

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<v Speaker 3>of a friend. The other one, she said, is to

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<v Speaker 3>recognize it slow and stead he wins the race. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm reading Yankovic's book right now called Just Friends. It

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<v Speaker 3>comes out in February. She talks a lot about this

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<v Speaker 3>idea that people don't really make time for the early

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<v Speaker 3>stages of friendships. And similar to the early stages of dating,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know how it's going to go, but for

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<v Speaker 3>fear that it's you start to love bombs, so you

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<v Speaker 3>spend more time with them. It's haying after hanging after haying,

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<v Speaker 3>text after texts after text. And the issue is it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't set a good precedent for a friendship you can maintain,

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<v Speaker 3>and then what happens is that this unmet expectation festers.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week we spoke about what we learned in friendships

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<v Speaker 3>as opposed to relationships, and having big conversations is a

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<v Speaker 3>new thing. I've had friends I've had for ten years

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<v Speaker 3>that I couldn't dare have a big conversation with because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, oh, they're not good with confrontation. They're

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<v Speaker 3>too sensitive, la la la la. But a new friend

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<v Speaker 3>goes through such a vigorous training program. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>if I get a whiff that you are not someone

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<v Speaker 3>I can have a proper conversation with, it's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I'm not gonna waste my time. Max. The other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest tip.

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<v Speaker 3>For making friends with women now is that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to bring in new framework. You can't use the same

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<v Speaker 3>tactics you are using to make your high school friends

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<v Speaker 3>make friends with adults, especially adult women.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a reason why way differentiating women to everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the point of her specifying women is that

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<v Speaker 3>so men didn't come in and say, well, this doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>relate to me, because she's speaking to people who want

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<v Speaker 3>to make friends with women.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you to her for bringing us to our attention.

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