1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: And we are just a week out from the Northern 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Territory election and the Labor government, well the Labor Party, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: I think I've got to say now they've promised Freeland 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Major Project status for a new supermarket chain to enter 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory market in an efforts, they say, to 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: drive down grocery prices for Territorians if re elected. In 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: a statement over the course of the weekend, they said 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: that they're pushing for an alternative supermarket chain such as 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Aldi or Costco to come to the territory in an 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: effort to improve competition and try to force the two 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: big supermarkets to end unfair pricing that worsen's cost of 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: living for all Territorians. Joining me in the studio right now, 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: the Chief Minister Evil or Local boarding to you. 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: Warning Katie. 15 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Now it is being dubbed the Fair Go Plan. Do 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: you think it's that fair a government giving land to 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: a multinational company. 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: So, Katie, I mean we see the same issue with 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: quantestant Virgin So Australia's population twenty six million people, so 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: the same issues then exacerbated in the Northern Territory with 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand people. So Coals and Woolworths 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: have us, you know, really over a barrel. The federal 23 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: government has been doing some of that work, trying to 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: actually make sure that you know that they're fair with 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: their dealings with their suppliers. 26 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: So the farmers in. 27 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Australia, but we know that coals and Woolworths are making 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: extreme profits. It's the same with quantus. And yet as 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: I said, then territorians are impacted. So you know, in 30 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: our conversations with people it comes up all the time. 31 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: So people say to me, you know, my grocery bill 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: was two hundred dollars for the last couple of months 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: and now it's gone up to two hundred. 34 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: And forty for example. 35 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: So you know, what can we do. There aren't a 36 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: lot of levers that we can pull around that. And 37 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: so in our conversations we said, well maybe we need 38 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: to look at it in a different way instead of 39 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: trying to hassle Coals and Woolworths and say well, you 40 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: know sort of stuff. You what we'll do is we'll provide, 41 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: and you know, as best as we can, an easy access. 42 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: For some competition. 43 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: So we'd love to have cost go here or aldi 44 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: and so you know, One of the things that government 45 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: has is government has land, and so it would be 46 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: about facilitating that to be able to and if that, 47 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: if that's the carrot that can entice a cost Co 48 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: or an Aldi to town and as I said, then 49 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: cause some competition and hopefully drive down prices, but also 50 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: provide those options. 51 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: Do you see that land or where would it be 52 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 4: in value? 53 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I'm in Parmesan, but some land in Parmeson. 54 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: It could be we're developing that new suburb in Holtz, 55 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: so that land near Holtz or Kwandy could be an area. 56 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: Parmestan's the fastest growing area in the Northern Territory. You know, 57 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: nearly forty thousand people live in Parmesan, so it could 58 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: be a spot like that. But there is land in Wishart, 59 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: you know, there is Government has land in a range 60 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: of places. 61 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: So it is it's. 62 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: Just something for us to provide an option, and was 63 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: I said, We'll put together a group of people. It'll 64 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: be part of my one hundred day plan if I'm 65 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: re elected. That will go hard to try and break 66 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: that deadlock around Colson Woomorth. 67 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you say to everyday Northern territory 68 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: business owners though, who've had to pay you know, for 69 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: their own land to be able to stay out of 70 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: business and are paying you know, commercial rates which I 71 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: know probably aren't that cheap to try and get going. 72 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: But you know there are there is already options around Crownland. 73 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: And we see that around enticing businesses. 74 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: For any business territory. 75 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Well, we do that already. So whether it's so. 76 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: For any smaller business, they could. 77 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: Territory business, not a smaller business, but some of our 78 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: large You see that around the work that we do 79 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: around you know, getting industry into the northern territory. So 80 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: that's what government does to stimulate industry and this one 81 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: has a would have a great benefit for all territory. 82 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: And so that's what government does around Crownland. But I mean, 83 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: of course we you know, we also do Crownland for 84 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: lots of NGOs and lots of other organizations, church groups, 85 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: those sorts of things too. 86 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: I've seen the labor ads having a crack at the 87 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: CLP on their payroll tax. You know that it's looking 88 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: after multinationals. Well, this is looking after a multinational as well. Well. 89 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: As I said, this is part of this whole equation 90 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: fifty two million dollars in the forward estimates, money that 91 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: won't be available for territorians. 92 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, so how time this costs? 93 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: Well? 94 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: As I said, that depends on where the land is, 95 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: but the land value may only be a million or 96 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: two million, depends on the site where that we're looking at, 97 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: So the land value would be various depending on where 98 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: it is. 99 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: But this is exactly right. 100 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: The sealp have bought in or are talking about a 101 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: commitment around payroll tax. There are only fourteen percent of 102 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: territory businesses that will benefit from a lift from one 103 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: point five million to a threshold to two point five million. 104 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: So the people that will benefit from the sealple plan 105 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: around payroll tax will be the Coals, the Woolworths, the 106 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: Commonwealth Banks, those big companies. Only fourteen percent, So. 107 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: Yes, can you see the irony though that their new 108 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: guys are going, well, we're going to gift free land 109 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: to costco Oraldy like it sort of avoids the argument. 110 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: No, not at all because as I said, the land 111 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: value won't be fifty two million for a start, so 112 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: way less than that. 113 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: But it's still multinationally. 114 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: But the benefit these for territorians The benefit with Lea's 115 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: plan is not for Territorians. Her benefit is for these 116 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: large companies. Our benefit will be that the Territorians will 117 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: be able to have cheaper groceries and that's what we 118 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: want to do long term around costs of living in 119 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: the world. 120 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Still a lot of steps to get there, and I 121 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: think that it's really really worth pointing out to Territorians 122 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: because I don't want them thinking that, you know, the 123 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: minute that ILD or Costcar offered Freeland, that they're going 124 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: to jump into the market. 125 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: Because my understanding is that. 126 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: Other private organizations or companies have actually offered land to 127 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: both of those multinationals and not been able to lure 128 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: them here. So what makes the government think that they're 129 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: going to be able to do it any differently. 130 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: Well, as I said, they've got the backing of government. 131 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: That's that's that's the powerfulness of that. But I mean, Katie, 132 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: we have to try things we can. There's no point 133 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: in just sitting on our hands and allowing Coals and 134 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: Woolworths to continue to drive. 135 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: Totally in the territory totally. 136 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: But I can see people sitting out there and this 137 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: is I guess the problem. 138 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 4: You guys have gotten a lot of ways. 139 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: And I've said it to you before that a lot 140 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: of people listening, they go, well, why haven't you for 141 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: the last eight years? You know, the cost of living 142 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: issue is not a new one. It's not something that's 143 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: popped up in the last week. So why is it 144 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: only now or that the government's going down this path? 145 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: The cost of living issue has been exacerbated with interest rates, 146 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 3: so probably it has been the last eighteen months. Prior 147 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 3: to that, you know, people's home loans were under zero percent, 148 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: under one percent. Sorry, you know, we're very very low 149 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: prices and the cost of living wasn't such an issue. 150 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: It has become an issue in the last eighteen months. 151 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: But Katie, you know this is ongoing work. It's always 152 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: that's what you do in government. And as I said, 153 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: this is an election commitment, so you're always looking at 154 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: things to improve things for territorians and that's always my 155 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: focus is what can we do more for territorians? And 156 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: as I said, there aren't is it hard desperate? 157 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 4: It is getting to that point. 158 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: It's getting a bit desperate because it's sort of reminiscent 159 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: of the Queensland government a week or so ago coming 160 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: out saying that they're going to start their own petrol 161 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: stations and people sort of scoffed and laughed at feels 162 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: like promises. 163 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: It just being thrown out that aren't really being costed. 164 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: Or so there aren't a lot of leavers that you 165 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: can pull in the Northern Territory around cost of living. 166 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: So most of it is federal government. So this is 167 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: something that we can do. And as I said, it's 168 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: an election commitment that can facilitate bigger businesses, bigger compassion 169 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: and bigger competition coming to the Northern Territory. 170 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: So that's what it is. Katie. 171 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: Let's move along because there is so much to cover 172 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: off and I do want to ask about something that 173 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: the COLP announced last week, Declan's Law. There'd be a 174 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: number of legislative changes making it more difficult for violent 175 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: offenders to get bail. Why isn't this something that's been 176 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: on the ALP's agenda. 177 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: Because we've already we did that work. So after that 178 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: tragic incident in March last year, the Northern Territory government 179 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: we took into parliament changes to bail, legislation around weapons. 180 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: We also did the work around wanding, so we've done that. 181 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: But you know, Katie, the emphasis has to be on prevention. 182 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: That's that has been my focus. We have to do that. 183 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: That was that five hundred and seventy million dollar commitment, 184 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: and I'm going to be doing media today and provide 185 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: an update to the public around the implementation of that 186 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: five hundred and seventy million. Also, those residential youth justice facilities, 187 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: three of the four are up and running, you know, 188 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: the women's prisons, you know the new DV facility out 189 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: from Alice Springs to address mail prisoners. So you have 190 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: to do this the preventative work. This an issue around 191 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: bail that's not going to stop somebody, a young person 192 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: doing the wrong thing. They're not at that time that 193 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: when they're about to commit a crime thinking, oh, I 194 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: won't commit the crime because I won't get bail. 195 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh I guess even a matter from the discussion that 196 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: I'd had with Declan's mum on air last week. This 197 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: has stem from details emerging through that case, which revealed 198 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: that the young man who killed Decland had been on 199 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: bail for a previous violent offense. Now, according to Declan's mum, 200 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,119 Speaker 1: that incident involved him assaulting another person and that victim 201 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: being very you know, being very very badly assaulted. Now, 202 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: can you see how people think that the laws are 203 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: too soft when a victim can be violently assaulted but 204 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: the alleged defender is on bail and able to commit 205 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: a further crime. Yep. 206 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: So if you have, yeah, if you've committed a violent offense, 207 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: regardless of the weapon, it will be dealt with by 208 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: police and the courts. So whether you're an adult or 209 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: a youth, it will be dealt with by the courts. 210 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: So regardless of any of the legislation, the courts can 211 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: then provide fail they have. 212 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Some question, is this person slipped through the cracks, because 213 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: even after speaking to Declan's mum, she said, you know, 214 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: what she hopes is that nobody else is in a 215 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: situation where something like this happens. And she'd even sort 216 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: of questioned how there weren't earlier in interventions, you know, 217 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: to stop this happening, and that it's essentially you know, 218 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: it's not only her and her family's life that's been ruined, 219 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: but also you know, but also young murderer. 220 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you absolutely agree. 221 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to see violent, violent acts like the one 222 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: that we saw in March. But it is it is 223 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: that work around prevention. That's exactly what I'm saying, Katie. 224 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: That person, as I said, was on bail. The courts 225 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: obviously had the information. The courts, you know, in the 226 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: judiciary put that person on bail. But it is the 227 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: work that needs to happen before that, before that young 228 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: person gets to that situation where they're carrying a weapon. 229 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: And that's the work of those residential youth justice facilities. 230 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: It's the work around, you know, investing in education, investing 231 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: in housing, it's all of those things rather than waiting 232 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: tool that person's got a knife. So Katie will continue 233 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: to I'll continue as Chief Minister if I'm so, you know, 234 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: elected after the twenty fourth, to drive down the issue 235 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: of crime in the Northern Territory. Nobody wants to see violence, 236 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: nobody wants to see crime in the Northern Territory. 237 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: You just want to make it really clear because I 238 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: know that this is a sticking point for people on 239 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: both sides of the fence. The Labor Party's got no 240 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: plans at all to change the bail legislation. 241 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 2: At this stage. Katie. 242 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: We have done that work already. We have done the 243 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: work we did the work immediately after that tragic incident 244 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: in March. So again Liz talking about bringing in changes 245 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: in sometime in Parliament. 246 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: But we will. 247 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: Continue to work with the police, with the experts around 248 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 3: what's needed in the Northern Territory around any violent crime. 249 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: But again you have to focus on the prevention rather 250 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: than just after the fact. As I said, it is 251 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 3: all too little, too late when you're looking at that afterwards. 252 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: It needs to be part of a. 253 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: Comprehensive, common sense plan around crime and that's what we'll 254 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: continue to do. 255 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: A question that's come through from Glenn now, this one 256 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: actually came through on Friday and it says, Hi, Katie, 257 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: could you please ask the Chief Minister and the Leader 258 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: of the Opposition what their party's intentions would be with 259 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: the voice at state and territory level if they win 260 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: the election. I think it's an important issue. With the 261 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: results of the referendum Victoria and South Australia's moved to 262 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: put in place already and the apparent encouragement of the 263 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: Prime Minister that the other states and territories he's wondering 264 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: if they'll follow. I feel this question needs to be 265 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: a definitive yes. Or no, as it could have an 266 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: impact on how Territorians choose to vote. 267 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Katie, I think as has said, I mean 268 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: we saw the referendum and I truly think it wasn't 269 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: done well. I think it was stuffed up basically by 270 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: Albow and by Linda Bernie. And it was done, it 271 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: was too rushed. It's a bit like the question of 272 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: statehood here or know whether Australia becomes a democracy, mean 273 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: at Yost it gets rid of our ties to England 274 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: sort of thing. So I think there needs to be 275 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: ongoing conversations. I know there are people who would like 276 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: to see obviously a treaty and that work done very quickly, 277 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: and there are another group, people like Glenn, that don't 278 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: want that to happen. So from my point of view, 279 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: what we have in the Northern Territory that we've had 280 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: for our two terms of government have been local decision making, 281 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: local decision making works. I have recently signed about three 282 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 3: or four local decision making agreements. That is where ministers, 283 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: local members, government agencies work with that community to identify 284 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: the things that are important to that community. So recently 285 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: I was at Maningrida we did one with Jowan as well. 286 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: You sit down with that community and over time you 287 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 3: work out what's important to them. So whether that's something 288 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: around economic development, often it's to do with education and 289 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: then wanting to have, for example, bilingual education in their schools, 290 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: specific programs. It might be around community controlled health centers. 291 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: That to me is important work in the territory because 292 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: that's the first steps around Aboriginal people having greater control 293 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 3: over what they want where the dollars are being spent. 294 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: But also you need Aboriginal people need to listen. 295 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: To plans for an XC voice. 296 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: So at this stage, from my point of view, as 297 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: I said, I think Elbow and Bernie stuffed it up. 298 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 3: I think it was done in too much of a rush. 299 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: People aren't ready for that. Australians weren't. You know, a 300 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: large number of Australians were, but there was a large 301 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: number that weren't. In the Northern Territory, our remotes were, 302 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: our urban people weren't. So there needs to be as 303 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, further conversations. There needs to be 304 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: more listening on both sides. But the local decision making 305 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: provides those opportunities in our remote communities for Aboriginal people 306 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: to have a focus on what they think will improve 307 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: their lives. And that's what it always should be. How 308 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: do we improve the lives of Aboriginal people. It doesn't 309 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: necessarily or shouldn't necessarily be from people in Darwin telling 310 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: Aboriginal people, for example, in Maningrida what they want. It 311 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: should be coming from the other way. And that's how 312 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: we'll see. And we all want the same things. We 313 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: want our kids at school, we want good health services. 314 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: We all want to feel safe, whether you're in Manning 315 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: Greet or you're in Darwin. When I sit down with 316 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: original people, it's the same things. 317 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: Chief Minister, we're gonna have to leave it though. 318 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: My goodness, that's going quickly, Katie. 319 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Happy birthday for yesterday. Thank you, Katie, and thank you 320 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: very much for all of your time. Good luck on 321 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: the final week. And I know I'll say the same 322 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: to Lea as well. You know, no matter what side 323 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: of the political spectrum people sit on, it's a it's 324 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: a busy, busy. 325 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: Time, it's a tough. 326 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: Time and and yeah, I you know all the best 327 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: no matter what. We'll catch up with you soon. 328 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, Katy. 329 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: I think it's been a very respectful and very sensible 330 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: campaign so far. 331 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I tend to agree. 332 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: I know that at different times over the years we've 333 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: seen some horrible stuff come out, and I hope that 334 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: it stays nice and respectful for the final week because it's, 335 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a better way of doing politics 336 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: if you ask me. Well, Chief minesstaill I, thanks so 337 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: much for your time this morning.