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Speaker 1: As I mentioned on the show yesterday, I had been

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Speaker 1: contacted over the weekend about a great New Territory business,

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Speaker 1: Fin and Tonic, being broken into. One of our listeners

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Speaker 1: had tagged me in a post on social media in

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Speaker 1: which the owner, Kerry Brown, took to social media on

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Speaker 1: Sunday to advise of the break and enter, and we'll

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Speaker 1: posted CCTV screenshots of these two young offenders well that

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Speaker 1: are apparently responsible. Now joining me on the line is

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Speaker 1: the owner of Finn and Tonic, Kerry Brown. Good morning, Kerry,

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Speaker 1: Good morning Katie, Kerry. What happened on the weekend?

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Speaker 2: Oh, we just had that visit overnight by the two

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Speaker 2: unwanted teenagers who thought they had special rights and privileges. Mate.

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Speaker 1: What was stolen?

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Speaker 2: They stole about thirteen or fourteen bodels of liquor.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is quite a lot of alcohol to have

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Speaker 1: go missing. Was a lot of damage caused.

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Speaker 2: They damaged one of the glass panels entering in. They

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Speaker 2: attempted to smash another one that wouldn't break, but they

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Speaker 2: moved on and found one that did. Unfortunately, it was

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Speaker 2: my silly fault. I didn't realize, but I left my

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Speaker 2: laptop on the premises, and my alarm system thought I

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Speaker 2: was there, so I didn't get the alerts and neither

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Speaker 2: did my security team on No.

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Speaker 1: But you know what it's like, it's not your silly fault,

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Speaker 1: because the thing is you shouldn't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: that happening in the first place. And I understand that,

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Speaker 1: you know, you've obviously got all of those additional measures

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Speaker 1: in place, but Kerrie, that like, it's just really disappointing

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Speaker 1: that the one night where you accidentally leave it behind

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Speaker 1: that happens.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was. It was very disappointing. We actually added

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Speaker 2: a new camera above our bar that day, and it

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Speaker 2: was the first time my laptop was used to log

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Speaker 2: into our account to check the angles. And unfortunately it happened.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise I would have been there personally within five minutes

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Speaker 2: and they would have met with a very angry business owner.

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Speaker 1: Carry all the police investigating.

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Speaker 2: They are They turned up that night at about ten

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Speaker 2: thirty to take the footage. They say that they're looking

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Speaker 2: into it and it's ongoing, so hopefully they know the

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Speaker 2: individuals that the two lads were very very organized. They

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Speaker 2: were wearing gloves, they were well dressed. You know, they

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Speaker 2: look like they come from maybe a good family, They

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Speaker 2: weren't rough sleepers, they knew what they were doing, and

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Speaker 2: you know, they obviously know they can't go to prison

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Speaker 2: and they can't get caught, and they just get a

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Speaker 2: slap on the wrist anyway. So it's not their first rodeo,

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Speaker 2: that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing that people are getting increasingly

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Speaker 1: frustrated by. There does seem to be this sense amongst

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Speaker 1: some young people that they feel or they feel like

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Speaker 1: they're not going to get in trouble for it. Carry

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Speaker 1: like any indication of how old they may or may

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Speaker 1: have been.

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Speaker 2: There was somewhere between seventeen and nineteen, I would imagine,

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Speaker 2: possibly a little bit younger. Yeah, it's hard to come

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Speaker 2: on camera, but somewhere around that age.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And in terms of getting that damaged fixed that

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Speaker 1: you know, the window pane that they've broken, is it

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Speaker 1: going to be costly for you No.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had a great response from Pete Glass.

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Speaker 2: They came out the glass cost me a thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: and it's probably about fifteen hundred dollars worth of alcohol,

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Speaker 2: and of course the cleanup and you know it's sort

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Speaker 2: of spack a little bit and being able to operate efficiently,

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Speaker 2: but we're able to turn it around pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that is good news, Kerrie. How long have

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Speaker 1: you guys been operating there at Cullumbay.

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Speaker 2: Now, we've been open now for about four weeks, so

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Speaker 2: it is disappointing that it's happened so quickly. Unfortunately I'm

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Speaker 2: not covered for insurance. I didn't take that out. Things

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Speaker 2: are extremely tired at the moment, having just just opened

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Speaker 2: and just trying to get on our feet. So we're

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Speaker 2: looking at other medias at the moment and trying to

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Speaker 2: make sure that it's a little bit harder for the

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Speaker 2: next time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that is that's good to hear, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to sort of safeguard yourselves. Kerrie. It's wonderful that

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Speaker 1: Fin and Tonic is open down there've been operating for

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Speaker 1: four weeks. How's it all been going.

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Speaker 2: That's great. We've had a wonderful response. We've flown out

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Speaker 2: and you know, things, things are getting better every day.

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Speaker 2: So no, we're very happy with the response and we

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Speaker 2: will even be opening for breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Sah, good on you. Well, look I hope, you know,

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Speaker 1: I hope that this doesn't happen again. I hope that

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Speaker 1: you are in a situation where now that those security

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Speaker 1: cameras are up and running and you take your laptop home,

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Speaker 1: that you're not having to deal with this again. But

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Speaker 1: it is such a pain. I know it have been

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Speaker 1: suggested by somebody, or can you get roller doors put

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Speaker 1: onto those windows, but in some cases that's much easier

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Speaker 1: said than done.

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Speaker 2: It is it is. We had some assistance through the

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Speaker 2: bit secure grant to get the cameras up. There is

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Speaker 2: a liquor grant, but unbelievably, with the liquor grant, you've

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Speaker 2: got to spend twenty thousand and they will match another

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand. But they don't allow roller shutters on the

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Speaker 2: outside of the building, which is crazy. It's the only

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Speaker 2: thing that will stop them getting in, the only thing

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Speaker 2: that they will allow. The government will allow roller shutters

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Speaker 2: over your bar or cabinet, and we don't have a

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Speaker 2: cabinet and our bar isn't made to a roller shutter.

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Speaker 2: But I want to stop them getting into the building

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Speaker 2: because what's the point of letting them in going to

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Speaker 2: damage something else? They're only going to create damage on

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Speaker 2: the way in. Having that restriction on the liquor graand

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Speaker 2: is just ridiculous and it needs to be looked at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Look, we will talk more

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Speaker 1: about that. I think it's something that all of our

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Speaker 1: politicians should be talking about ahead of the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: election because it would help businesses. You know, we don't

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Speaker 1: want to wind up. Ideally, we wouldn't be in a

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Speaker 1: situation where we need roller shutters everywhere, but at the moment,

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Speaker 1: it seems that that is the situation that we're in.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Nobody wants to live in a look alike prison.

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Speaker 2: These kids need to be put in prison and that's

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Speaker 2: what needs to happen. They need to stop getting a

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Speaker 2: slap on the wrist and the silly thing is they've

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Speaker 2: been caught for They know the system and they're just

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Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kerry Brown, I really appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having a chat with us.

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Speaker 2: All the best magic. Thank you,