1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by our partners at 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Blossom and Workplace Law. Welcome to The Female Athlete Project 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Season two. My name is Chloe Dalton. I'm an Olympic 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: gold medalist in rugby sevens and I'm now playing for 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: the GWS Giants in the AFLW. I started tfapp to 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: share the stories of incredible female athletes and to address 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the gender inequalities that exist within the sports media space. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: We want to change that story and we're all about 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: making news and highlights of women's sport easily accessible across 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: our platforms. Our hope is that more female athletes will 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: become household names and in turn enable the next generation 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: of young kids to pick up a ball, racket, backboard, 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: whatever they want to pick. Gretel Bowetta formerly Gretel Tippett, 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: is an incredible athlete. Since making her WNBL debut in 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: twenty ten at the age of seventeen, she's packed in 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: plenty of highlights WNBL seasons, three Junior World Championships in 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: basketball and then a switch to netball. Twenty thirteen saw 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity to play with the Queensland Firebirds get selected 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: in the Australian Under twenty one team and then make 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: a move to the New South Wales Swifts, before eventually 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: returning home to Queensland. The Australian Diamonds call up came 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: in the twenty eighteen nineteen season, which was a peach 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: of a season for Gretel. She was named in the 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: Super Netball Team of the Year and in twenty nineteen 25 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: was awarded the Liz Ellis Diamond, the most prestigious annual 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: award in Australian netball, given to the player judged the 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: best in both domestic and international netball throughout the calendar year. 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: But potentially her greatest highlight was still to come. Gretel 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: married Nico Bowetta in twenty twenty and they welcomed son 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Bobby into the world in January this year. Gretel is 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: now back on the court with an extra little fan 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: cheering on from the stands. Just a little side note, 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: Bobby was sitting on Gretel's LP for some of this 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: interview and I got quite distracted by his very adorable cheeks, 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: so you might hear a few noises from him, including 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: a very cute baby sneeze. 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed this episode. 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: Grettel Boerter, Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: No worries. I'm looking forward to having a chat. 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: I thought i'd kick us off by taking it back 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: to your childhood. Can you tell us a little bit 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: about what you're like as a little kid growing up 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: in a pretty sporty family and how that all started 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: for you. 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I grew up with two older brothers and 47 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: I just wanted to do whatever they were doing. So 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: they chose basketball, so which meant I chose basketball. And 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: we used to play Saturday rep and just play whenever 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: we got home from school. 51 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: We just play out the back three on three, two 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: on two. 53 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: However, was in the neighborhood at the time and absolutely 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: loved it, but I could only join it if I 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 4: was good enough. So I sat on the sidelines for 56 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 4: a while watching and then finally they let me join in. 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: But no, it was good, good fun. 58 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: How did that kind of go from like marking around 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: with the brothers to then like taking basketball pretty seriously? 60 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, Oh, I just I loved it so 61 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: much and I wanted to. I think when you love something, 62 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: you want to be as good as it as possible. 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: And I think I was just talking about this the 64 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: other day. I used to look up to NBA players 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: because that's who my brothers looked up to. 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: And it never really occurred to me that I would 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: never be able. 68 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: To play in the NBA as a female until I 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: got pretty serious with it at fourteen fifteen. And then 70 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: I would watch college basketball and I used to watch 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: Kansas Parker. 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: She's still playing. She's my all time favorite player. 73 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's really cool now thinking that when Bobby 74 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: grows up or if we have a daughter, that she'll 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: have female athletes still look up to as well. 76 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so cool to see the way that that's changing, 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: even like watching the WM and I know when like 78 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: with the college basketball thing that recently happened, how the 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: girls hardly had any access. 80 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: To gym equipment. 81 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: Like, I think there's been pretty massive changes that happened 82 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: because people are just calling that stuff out these days 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: on p it's so good. 84 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: Now it's slowly starting to change. 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: So you started playing in the WNBL for the AIS 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: and what was that You were still pretty pretty young 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: at that point. What was that experience like for you 88 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: getting to play? I guess against fully grown adults and 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: pretty decent sized women. 90 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 91 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: I think I was itching to move to the AOS, 92 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: so I know Mom would always pull me back. 93 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: I think they asked me to go at fifteen and mom. 94 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: Was like, no, you're too young, And so at sixteen 95 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: I was like, right, I'm ready to. 96 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: Go, mum, and she's like, okay, I can't stop you 97 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: this time. 98 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: So I spent year twelve living in Canberra at the 99 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: AIS and we had we played, yeah in the WNBL 100 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: as a young young team, and I remember our second 101 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: aim was against Lauren Jackson and she was she was 102 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: my idol obviously, and we I think we lost by 103 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: seventy points and I. 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: Just couldn't get over. Yeah, I couldn't get over. 105 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 4: How strong she was, Like there was just no real 106 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: match up really, she just could just use her strength 107 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: against us, and she was so skilled and I was 108 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: just like right, like, so that's the level that you 109 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: got to get to. And it was pretty pretty awesome 110 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: to experience that. I suppose and know that that's that's 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: the goal obviously. But yeah, it was a big learning 112 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: curve and we used to train really hard and we 113 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 4: had under seventeen worlds in the middle of that year 114 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: while I was down there in France. So that was 115 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: cool to go and play other girls your age in 116 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: another country and experience that and see where you were 117 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: as an athlete and as a team. And we got 118 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: seventh there and then we added the next WNBL season 119 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: to prepare for, so I started playing in that and 120 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: then I got a little bit homesick and a little 121 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: bit run down, having you don't get much. 122 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: Break when you live down there. 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 4: You're an athlete twenty four to seven, and I was 124 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: used to living in Queensland and doing a bit of sport, 125 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: going to the beach and having a bit bless you, Bobby, 126 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: having a bit of a cruisier lifestyle. So it all 127 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 4: caught up with me at the end of that year 128 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: and I chose to move home, and that's when I 129 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 4: found myself with the Logan Thunder WNBL team, so I 130 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 4: really enjoyed my time there as well. 131 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: I used to play basketball. I sat on the bench 132 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: a lot for the Flames in the WNBL, and I 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: grew up playing for New South Wales and New South 134 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Wales Metro And I was thinking about the other day, 135 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: I'm in a group chat with some basketball girls still, 136 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: and I remember that there was a girl from Queensland 137 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: who everyone said could dunk it? 138 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: What could you dunk it? 139 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: Was that the rules so much hype. I was so embarrassed. 140 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: I think my brother's like filmed me doing it one 141 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: time and put it up and then it was hardly 142 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 4: a donk either. 143 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: I think I just grabbed the rim and like placed 144 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: the ball in. 145 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, we got pretty excited over it, and I think, yeah, 146 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: it's funny, but there was a lot of hyph and 147 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: it wasn't very very good. 148 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: Still counts, still counts. 149 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: So you in twenty eleven were WNBL Rookie of the 150 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: Year and had played it three Junior World Champs by 151 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: that point, I guess kind of had the pinnacle of 152 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: your junior career at that level, and then early in 153 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: twenty twelve made the decision to transition to netball. How 154 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: did you come to make that decision and what was 155 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: what were the factors that contributed to that. 156 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I I got glendylar fever probably in twenty nineteen, 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: in April after a tour to China, were preparing for 158 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: two thousand and twenty and eleven under nineteen were old 159 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: and I'd played the World's four years prior to that 160 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: as a fifteen sixteen year old, so this was a 161 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: big tournament for me. And I remember Brett Brianna Stewart, 162 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: who's like a gun in the WNBA at the moment. 163 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: She was we first around under seventeen's and she was 164 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: like the big dog of the USA team. And it 165 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: was a big tournament, and I knew I wanted to 166 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: I wanted ask to go really well and wanted to 167 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: see what other girls were like at that age, and 168 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: it was kind of like the age where you go 169 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: into college afterwards. So yeah, and then having got glendular fever, 170 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: I struggled through that tournament because it's pretty grueling tournament. 171 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 4: I think it's like so many games in eleven days 172 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: or something, eleven games in eleven days or whatever. But yeah, 173 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 4: and after that tournament, I took a month off because 174 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, I'm I've had it, And then 175 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 4: I tried to start back. 176 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: I played I think two weeks. 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 4: In of WNBO with Low and Thunder, and I was 178 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: just spent after every game and I just remember being like, 179 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 4: I'm struggling to even get through a training session. 180 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: I'm not enjoying this anymore. I think I need to stop. 181 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: I'm not playing good basketball or the basketball that I 182 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: want to because I'm just exhausted and I haven't let 183 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: my body fully recover from this virus. So that's when 184 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: I took three months off and just did full time UNI. 185 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: And then I didn't because I that was around the 186 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: time where i'd picked out full colleges and We're going 187 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: to go spend forty eight hours in every college with 188 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: my parents and then fly back. So I had Louisville, Yukon, Duke, 189 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: and Cal Berkeley picked out because Cal wasn't a very 190 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 4: good basketball school, but it was similar to growing up 191 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: on the Gold Coast. 192 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: And then I remember the oh, what's his name? 193 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: I should know the Yukon coach who's the US basketball 194 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: women's coach? 195 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 2: Gino, Yeah, yeah. 196 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 4: He called me, and I remember my brother freaking out 197 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 4: on the brand of being like no way, and I 198 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: got off the phone and I was like, oh, I 199 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: still don't. 200 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: Really, I can't. 201 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if I could commit to four years overseas. 202 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: And I just remember him. 203 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: Shaking head and couldn't believe it because now looking back, 204 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: I was like, that was a pretty cool opportunity, but 205 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: I wasn't in the right head space. I was so 206 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 4: exhausted from the sport, and I think I just needed 207 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: a break. So I pulled out like a week before 208 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: we're supposed to fly out to America with Mum and 209 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: Dad and just said I just needed a. 210 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: Break from the sport. 211 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's crazy to think looking back now, but 212 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: I chose you that ten years later. But I think 213 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 4: I told Mom she looked after us kids too well, 214 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: because I just couldn't spare the thought of being I 215 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: just moved back from the AIS and I was like, 216 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 4: home is so good. And then I was like, oh, 217 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: the thought of four years away again. I just couldn't 218 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: fathom it. But yeah, so I took a break, and 219 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 4: then in February, I just took up social network to 220 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: keep fit in twenty twelve, just to like, I missed 221 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 4: team sport. My body feels pretty good again. I want 222 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: to start exercising again. And then kind of the next 223 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: day after I trialed for like a district team just 224 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: to play every Thursday night with my friend, and I 225 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: didn't make it. 226 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: I was so bad. I was because I would step 227 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: every time. 228 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: I got the ball and they'd be like, who's this 229 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,359 Speaker 4: girl from basketball? 230 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: Like doesn't know the rules? Is taking the ball out 231 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: of girl's hands? Like I was just so raw, just 232 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: ripping it out of the hands. 233 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. And then the next day the state league coach 234 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: called me and was like, we heard you went to trials. 235 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 4: Would you like to play a Gold Coaster State league team? 236 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I didn't make the district team. 237 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: I don't know why you want me, but anyway, they 238 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 4: persevered with me, and yeah, kind of went from there. 239 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: I was thinking back to this. 240 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: I guess this idea of transitioning sports and trying something 241 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: completely new where you don't know the rules. So I 242 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: probably had a similar experience when I went from rugby 243 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: to and I grew up in Sydney not watching a 244 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: whole lot of footy, and so I didn't I didn't 245 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: even know the rules really when I went down to 246 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: Carlton and tried to play, and I watched this vision 247 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: of me like in my first VFL game, and I 248 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: thought I was doing okay, And I watched the vision 249 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: recently I was like, WHOA, Like you had absolutely no 250 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: clue what you were doing out there. 251 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: What was that experience like? 252 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: For you doing something completely new where you didn't even 253 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: know the rules. 254 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think again. 255 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: I hated the hype, like there was all this talk 256 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 4: a basketballer going to netbull. I remember the Gold Coast 257 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 4: bulletin was there and I just remember reading it the 258 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: next day being like. 259 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: Not so fairy tale start for Gretel. 260 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, classic player on the name, but 261 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: also it wasn't a fairy tale star. I got thirteen 262 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: air balls because there was no backboard. 263 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: The bull was so light and I stepped five times. 264 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: It was awful. 265 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: Our team obviously lost, and I was just like, what 266 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 4: am I doing? Why am I trying to play? I 267 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: originally tried to play this for five and this isn't fun. 268 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 4: I'm awful, But yeah, something just made me love it. 269 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 4: I think the girls that I'm playing with are really supportive, 270 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 4: and the coach was really supportive and put a lot 271 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: of time into helping me improve every week. 272 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,239 Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm just really. 273 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: Thankful now pull the coach that I had at the time, 274 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: she's still around netball, and I still I'm so grateful 275 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: for to this day and that what she what she 276 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: helped me with in that first year, because yeah, looking back, 277 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: no good. 278 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: I often find when like people, I guess they would like, 279 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: look at your career, it's kind of like you transition 280 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: to netball and then now you're killing it. You play 281 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: for the Diamonds, You've been in the sun Corps Super 282 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Netball for X number of years, But like, how long 283 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: did it take you to get to that point where 284 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: you started to achieve some success and what was that? 285 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: What was that process like for you? 286 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: Like were you so determined that you wanted to be 287 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: the best so you were kind of like, oh, this 288 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: is a natural feit. We'll kind of see where it 289 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: goes from here. That's a good question. 290 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: And actually, because I think when you first start out, 291 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: you're like, okay, I. 292 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: Was just saw it as a huge challenge and I 293 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: was like, this is a big challenge, but I. 294 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 4: Just something makes me want to keep trying to be 295 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: that little bit better every training session. And I think 296 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: because I knew I had a long way to go, 297 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: it was kind of exciting. So I just kind of 298 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: gave myself a good year to give it everything. I said, 299 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: I'm going to sacrifice a lot, like just to see 300 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 4: how I go. And I remember that was I went 301 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: to under twenty one Nationals in March twenty twelve as 302 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: like a newly I don't even know how I made 303 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: that Queensland team. 304 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: I think because of my heart. They just put me 305 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: in goal shooter and was like just stand there and 306 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: we'll throw the ball to you. 307 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: But so I was like, okay when they're really raw 308 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: and I saw what level I had to be at 309 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 4: and I was only nowhere near that level. And I 310 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: gave myself a year because I had I was eligible 311 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: to play under twenty ones again next year, so I 312 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: was like, I'll give myself a year try and go 313 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: back to Nationals and see what happens. So in that 314 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: year I just trained really hard and tried to get 315 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: my head out what skills was required, fasten up my 316 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: footwork obviously, work on my shooting and then yeah, that 317 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 4: next year I got scattered and got my first contract 318 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: with the New South Wales Swift's. The coach was at 319 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: the Nationals and saw me and that's where opportunities kind 320 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: of came. But it was that main year of just 321 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 4: putting your head down and working really hard and training hard. 322 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: And I'm glad. 323 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: I gave myself that year, because if I gave myself 324 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: three months or something, it wouldn't have worked. 325 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: You needed a good year to give it a good crack. 326 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: I think what was that like comparing your first year 327 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: with the Swifts compared to what it was like in 328 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: the WNBL. Do you notice many differences between the two. 329 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think at that time we were we had 330 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: trans Tasman, so we had five Australian teams, five New 331 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: Zealand teams, so we're traveling a lot. 332 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: And WNBL you play a lot of games. 333 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: You play like you go for weekends and you play 334 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: like double headers on a weekend. 335 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: Whereas with netball, I. 336 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: Found it a bit more professional, probably in the way 337 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: that they did things, but it was less games, only 338 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: fourteen games a season and then yeah, so it was different. 339 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: I enjoyed both. I think netball in. 340 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: A way had more support around it, and but WNBL 341 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: just they just got on with it, like you just travel, 342 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: you play, you train hard, you. 343 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: Go to the next place. You don't really kind of 344 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: question it. 345 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: Whereas a network, I think you're yeah, very much more supported. 346 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: That might just be because a few years later things 347 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: have changed as well. It could be the same WBL now, 348 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think in terms of training you kind 349 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 4: of trained for the same amount of time. 350 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: It's just different skills. And then yeah, probably. 351 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 4: Less time on court and more time traveling in terms 352 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: of the netb wise. 353 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'll just hand Bobby over. 354 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: Okay, God, he's done well. 355 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: Hearing you talk all the time, how did that progress 356 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: from being kind of still a rookie in netball in 357 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: the ANZ Championship as it was back then to where 358 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: you are now? I was considered more of a senior 359 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: player who's been playing for so many years. 360 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so true. 361 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 4: I don't know how it happened, but all of a sudden, 362 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 4: I think you go to training and you're like one 363 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: of the older ones and you're like, it was just 364 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 4: yesterday where you felt like the biggest rookie and you're 365 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: learning off the older ones, and now I was like 366 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: I used to think they were so old, and now 367 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 4: I'm their age and these young girls would be looking 368 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: at me like I'm a grandma. 369 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, I was a little bit. 370 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: I wasn't the most professional athlete when I first started out. 371 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: I remember I think I went out on the Saturday 372 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: and I debuted for Sydney Swifts on the Monday, so 373 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 4: they don't know that until now, But I was living 374 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 4: in Bonda with my brother and I was just yeah, 375 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 4: I was just living my best life as a twenty 376 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: one year old, and I think I was just taking 377 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 4: it all in my stride. But then when I got 378 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 4: pretty serious, when I got the opportunity to I signed 379 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 4: actually originally with New south Well Swift for two years, 380 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: and then after the first year with them, I was 381 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 4: sitting behind a really amazing player, Susan Pratley, and I 382 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 4: was like, oh, I could stay here behind her or 383 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: there was a bit of an opening at the Queensland 384 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: Flyrebirds for that goal attack position and that's my obviously home. 385 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: State, so I was like, oh, that would be nice. 386 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 4: And then yeah, after that season in the Queensland five 387 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: Birds coach gave me a call actually and said we 388 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: want you back in your home state to play. What 389 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: are the chances And I was like, oh, I'd love that. 390 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: So moved back to Queensland, moved in with one of 391 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 4: my really good friends, Kimi rav and yeah, that's when 392 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: I kind of started started taking it more serious. 393 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: I had Laura Guides and Claire. 394 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 4: Mc minimum take me under their wing and they saw 395 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: potential in me and We're like, all right, you gotta 396 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: gotta work really hard, and we're really successful for those 397 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 4: first two years, and I think it kind of really 398 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: went from there. 399 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was it was quite a journey. 400 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, I loved, absolutely loved love the sport. 401 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: I like this idea of, like, I guess those senior 402 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: players when you are still younger, what do you reckon? 403 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: It was that you're able to learn from people like 404 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Laura Guides, who's an icon in the sport. 405 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just how she went about things. 406 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 4: She's a natural leader, and she has this way of 407 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: bringing people along with her. So she demanded the very 408 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 4: best from you, but in a way that made you 409 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: feel like you couldn't do anything under her. So she 410 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 4: made me feel like I was the best player in 411 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: the world when I was still such a raw rookie. 412 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 4: Looking back, I was shooting like eight goals a game, 413 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: and I thought I was the best ever. But I 414 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 4: think that was just her way of, yeah, making everyone 415 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 4: on court who played underneath her like feel unstoppable. 416 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: So it's a really special. 417 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 4: Knack that she had, and still to this day, I'm 418 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 4: in contact with her, and obviously she connotacs our games 419 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: now and she was one of my bridesmaids. But yeah, 420 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 4: I'm just always forever grateful for her because I think 421 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: she helped me believe in myself. 422 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: I love that because I think you can probably have 423 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: it go both ways with like whether it's a leader 424 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: or a coach in that role, kind of that idea 425 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: of like lifting people, uplifting your teammates up and even 426 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: if they're not the best yet, like giving them that 427 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: level of confidence, or you can kind of have that 428 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: more like dictatorship approach where it's like if you make 429 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: a mistake, you get your head ripped off. Yeah, but 430 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: I just think I don't know, I just think there's 431 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: so much power in particularly I don't know, maybe it's 432 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: more for female sports and male sports, but this idea 433 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: of like giving people the confidence so that they can 434 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: go out there and actually learn and have the opportunity 435 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: to make mistakes and learn from it, rather than being 436 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: so nervous about making a mistake that you then actually 437 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: don't learn a lot and play as you would one 438 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: hundred percent. 439 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, giving them that freedom, for sure, that's so true. 440 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: Tell me about the layup because in netball, it's like 441 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: it's a big deal that you do the lay up. 442 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: But it's probably something that you've been doing since you're 443 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: a little kid out in the backyard. Is that for you, Like, 444 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: was that something as soon as you started playing that 445 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: you just naturally did and decided to use that as 446 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: a bit of a point of difference. 447 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 448 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: I guess it was funny because when I first started 449 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: playing netball, they had to get all my basketball basketball 450 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 4: moves out of me, which is so fair enough now, 451 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: like okay, no, yeah, no layups, no catching and shooting 452 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 4: on like one second, you need to just like steady yourself, 453 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 4: no running on You're gonna step all these things. And 454 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 4: then once I got my head around all the netball rules, 455 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 4: I was actually when I moved to Queensland, my coach 456 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 4: just saw a video of me mucking around with one 457 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: of my teammates doing basketball moves playing netball, and she 458 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: was like, I want you to bring that because that's 459 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: that's where you're most comfortable. 460 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: I want you to bring that to the Firebirds. And 461 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: I was like, oh really, and she's. 462 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 4: Like yeah, So that was really good because I've obviously 463 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 4: felt most natural doing those moves and it, like you said, 464 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: grew up doing it in my sleep. You learn layups 465 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 4: when you're like under eights, and you do them every 466 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 4: training season until you yeah. 467 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 468 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: So when she said bring that, I was like yes, 469 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 4: because I get anxiety shooting the long shots. 470 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: I'd rather they. 471 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: Were stressful, Yes, stressful. 472 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I'm going to overcook this, like 473 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: I do. I'm still getting my head around this netfull shot. 474 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: Let me do a layup. So as soon as she 475 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: said do the layup, I was like yes. 476 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: And then people started, yeah, freaking out over it, which 477 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: is hilarious, but I was just doing whatever I could 478 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 4: to get the ball in the hoop at that stage. 479 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: It's nice. 480 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about what it felt like 481 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: when you got to make. 482 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: Your debut in the Green and Gold. 483 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 484 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 4: Getting the call up was amazing. That feeling you never 485 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 4: forget it. I think representing your countries obviously the one 486 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 4: thing that you want to do and ultimate dream. 487 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: And I remember the family had. 488 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 4: Booked we didn't even think it was on the cards 489 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: because we'd booked a family trip to Hawaii, and then 490 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: when I got the call up, I was like, hang on, guys, 491 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to reroute that. 492 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: They all took it really well and. 493 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 4: Went to Christchurch with the family holiday instead and watched 494 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: me on tour, So that was pretty special having the 495 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 4: family there, and I had four of my Firebirds teammates 496 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: on court with me, So it was a very smooth 497 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: transition up. Smooth debut because it felt like I was 498 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: almost in the purple dress out there, which made me 499 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: feel a little bit more comfortable. And I actually debuted 500 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 4: in wing attack, which I hadn't played. Yeah, I hadn't 501 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: played all season in wing attack, so it was like, yeah, 502 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: it was very special and then one that you want 503 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: to obviously try and do as much as possible. Once 504 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: you get the taste of being out there in the 505 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: green and gold, you just get so hungry for it. 506 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I want to play an audio clip 507 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: for you. So in twenty nineteen you awarded the lizz 508 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: Elis Diamond Award, considered the most prestigious annual award in 509 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: Australia netball. 510 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 5: The twenty nineteen Liz Ellis Dimond winner's the first person 511 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 5: in her position to win the award. It's gone to 512 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 5: a couple of defenders, not enough obviously over the years, 513 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 5: a lot of mid quarters. It's gone to a goal shooter, 514 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 5: and this year it goes to a goal attack. 515 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: The winner is gret Or Tippet. 516 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: What did that moment be like for you to be 517 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: recognized for everything that you've been able to achieve so 518 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: far in netball? 519 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was definitely a pinch me moment. 520 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 4: It left me a little bit speechless. I always felt 521 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: like coming from basketball, I always was playing catch up, 522 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: catch up, catch up, So we've got to be better. 523 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 4: I've got to be better, got to be better. And 524 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 4: then it wasn't even yeah on my mind at all. 525 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: I still look back at photos and I just got 526 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 4: back from being in Fiji going to the villages and 527 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 4: playing netball with the young kids, and I had this 528 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: shocking like tan, like sunburn tan, and I didn't even 529 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: have my hair or makeup done, like it was not 530 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 4: on the car. But yeah, it was obviously very extremely 531 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 4: special and I remember getting I got a bit teary 532 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 4: on stage because they flew your parents into surprise you 533 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: like to watching at the award, which was really special, 534 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 4: and obviously had my husband there, and yeah, it was 535 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: just a really surreal moment. And I think obviously playing 536 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 4: a team sport, you'd rather win a world championship or. 537 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 3: Yet win a Commonwealth Games. But to get that was 538 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: really special. 539 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, now for a quick half time break at 540 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: tea Fat. 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And then in twenty twenty, 570 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: you announced your pregnancy. Tell us a little bit about 571 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: that journey. Was that something that you'd always wanted to do, 572 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: to have a baby and to have a family. 573 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think my mum she had us quite young, 574 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 4: and I knew that I wanted. 575 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: To to obviously play netbul. 576 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 4: When I started playing Netbul, I was like, oh, this 577 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: is my goal and this is my dream, and I'd 578 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: achieved a lot the year before, and when we got married, 579 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: I was. 580 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: Like, right, I'm sorry, I'm so ready. My poor husband. 581 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 4: He's fifteen months younger than me, so he was like, oh, 582 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 4: when we get to thirty, we'll, you know, think about 583 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: having kids. 584 00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: I kind of sprung it on him. 585 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 4: He was like, well, but yeah, it was Yeah, it 586 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: was perfect timing. I think Bobby's just the best and 587 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: Nico's an amazing father, which really helps. 588 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: And it was hard to answer questions of because I. 589 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 4: Had to be okay with Okay, I'm studying family now, 590 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 4: I might not get back to playing the sport that 591 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 4: I love. That's just a reality. And am I okay 592 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: with that? And I was I was okay, I was 593 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: okay with that thought. But at the same time, I 594 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: would I was always was like, I'd love to. I'd 595 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: love to come back if my body allows me to, 596 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: I'd love to. And I had a chat with him 597 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: and I was like, would you be okay, Like, would 598 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: it be okay? Would it work for us if if 599 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: I went back? And he said one hundred percent, like 600 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: I want you're a long time retired I want you 601 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: to play for as long as you can. And he's like, 602 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: you'll be able to do it. And I was like, oh, 603 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 4: we'll see. And so yeah, the way things worked out 604 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: Bobby's been a man and being fortunate enough to get 605 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: back and I knew that round one was obviously my goal, 606 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: but I didn't know how everything would go. But yeah, 607 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: very fortunate to have achieved that. And I just love 608 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 4: being out there now. I think as a mum, when 609 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: you get out there, you don't know how long you're 610 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 4: going to be playing for, so you just appreciate it 611 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: so much. And obviously wind lose or draw. When you 612 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 4: look and you see a little boy in the stands, 613 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: doesn't matter. It quickly snaps you out of that that 614 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 4: sporting mindset and you just you like or if you 615 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: have a shocker and you look go over. 616 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: And you're like, you don't even know, you just love me. Yeah, 617 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: it's really nice. 618 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear about what, I guess the way 619 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: the Netball Australia approached it and the Firebirds as well, 620 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: that process of sitting out twenty twenty season while you're 621 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: pregnant and then also the process of trying to get 622 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: through I guess would you consider it rehab after pregnancy, 623 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: like what that what that process is to get your 624 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: body back to be able to play again and you've 625 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: done it in did you. 626 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: Do it in four months. Yeah, yeah, just that's insane. 627 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: That's very impressive. 628 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I did feel really supported when obviously 629 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: when I felt pregnant, the way that five Birds embraced 630 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 4: it and then Netbule Australia, the way that they embraced 631 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: it and said, look, we still want to keep you 632 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 4: in the squad, we still want to help you come back. 633 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: That was something that you just you look back and 634 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: you're like, WHOA like you? Because I was prepared, you 635 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: don't know, I was prepared to just. 636 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: Back in the day. 637 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 4: You just get I suppose replaced quite quite easily. And 638 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: so the way that they helped me and and fostered 639 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 4: me made me really determined to get back and I 640 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 4: felt like I could with that support. So that was great. 641 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: And yeah, the way that the support stuff at Firebirds 642 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: they would have I hate, like when played the team sport, 643 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 4: I just like to go to training and train and 644 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: go back and they're like, oh, we've been having private 645 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: meetings about you with all these people to help get 646 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: you back, and I was like, oh, that's so embarrassing, 647 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 4: Like I just want to slide on back in there. 648 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, they were just they just embraced it and 649 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: our strength and conditioning coach Brindley, he was amazing. 650 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: He was like, right, this is new challenge for me too. 651 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 4: I've never done this, never helped someone back into sport 652 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 4: post pregnancy. He's like, don't feel any pressure, the new 653 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: five Birds coach makes She was like, we don't want 654 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: to pressure you to do to come back whenever you like. 655 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 4: So that almost made me more determined to get back 656 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 4: because they were like, look, there's no timeframe on you. 657 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 4: You just get back when you like, whether that's at 658 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: the start of the season, during the season. If you 659 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 4: don't get back, that's totally fine. So yeah, and then 660 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: I had Brinley got me to see one of the 661 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: best women's health videos in Brisbane and my opstitution. 662 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: She's quite sporty. 663 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 4: When I was picking one, she played beach volleyball and 664 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 4: she does triathletes now she's had three children and I 665 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 4: was like. 666 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: Oh, perfect lack. 667 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 4: So Lisa, my obstutition was amazing and I told her 668 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 4: my goal and she's like, look, no one shut me down. 669 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 4: And I think that's what kept me thinking, oh, I 670 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 4: might just be able to get back, which was awesome. 671 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was a bit of a journey, and 672 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: I think I texted Brinn a week after I had 673 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: Bobby and I was like, I love him so much, 674 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: and I think I'm going to be able to do this, 675 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: like if I can, yeah, he's yeah, I just yeah. 676 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 4: A week after having him, I was like, I think 677 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: I'll be able to do this, so kind of yeah. 678 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 4: I just feel very grateful to be back doing what 679 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: I love and I think it helps make me a 680 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 4: better mom. And that I go to training, I switch 681 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 4: off from motherhood for a little bit, and then I 682 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 4: come back and I just switch back on and switch 683 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 4: off from training straight away. So yeah, and he was 684 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 4: good to us at the start. I don't know if 685 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: it's the snoo or he was just a good sleeper, 686 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 4: but he would have solid at least three to four 687 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 4: hour blocks which would help with the sleep, and he 688 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 4: would settle straight away. 689 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: So I think we got very lucky. My mom keeps 690 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: telling me, oh, Greta, you just got really really good baby. 691 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: You got really lucky, which is help not normal. 692 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, do you have a second one? I was like, yeah, 693 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 4: very thankful for all the support. 694 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 3: For sure. 695 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: Did you have days in that process? Because I think 696 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: when you're trying to get your body back and the 697 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: amount of change that happens during pregnancy in itself and 698 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: childbirth to get yourself back, did you have days like 699 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: this is a bit much. 700 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've got this in me. 701 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 4: I because I have been very lucky in my career. 702 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 4: I haven't done too much. I haven't had too many 703 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 4: long term injuries that have made me have to do 704 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 4: rehab but not be in with the team. 705 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: And because I'm. 706 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 4: Such a social I'm such a social trainer. 707 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 3: I'm like, I get in trouble for talking at. 708 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 4: Training because I'm just talking about what they're having for dinner, 709 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 4: you know, all those things for simple Gabby, that's probably 710 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: like great on focus, but no, I just love the 711 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 4: social aspect obviously of training. So when I did my 712 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 4: rehab it was just me and Brinn. 713 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 3: That was a bit lonely. 714 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 4: Not lonely, but I was just like, Oh, I just 715 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 4: want to be with the girls and be doing what 716 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 4: I love. But I'm going to try and get my 717 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 4: body back. And I thought, yeah. The first few training sessions, 718 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 4: Brent's like, Okay, we're not doing any running, We're just 719 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 4: getting your body muscles back. You know, like just beare 720 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 4: very slow and steady, and I was like okay, but 721 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 4: I would always try and like oh I feel pretty 722 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: good here and try and do something and my body 723 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 4: couldn't do it. And I was like, oh, like yeah, 724 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 4: this is a slower process to what I thought. So 725 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 4: it was very slow and steady, but I just They 726 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 4: had a ten week program for me and they're like, 727 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 4: do you want to see it? And I was like no, 728 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: I just want to focus on getting myself to training 729 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 4: and then once I'm there, I'll do it and then 730 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 4: I'll go back and I'll switch off. So as long 731 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 4: as I got myself to training and Bobby was happy, 732 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 4: I was happy got myself to training, and then that 733 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 4: kind of just took care of itself. So yeah, that's 734 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 4: kind of how I saw it. I just was like, 735 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 4: just make sure you get there, and then if you 736 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: get there, you do it. 737 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 3: Then it'll just take care of yourself and you look back. 738 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 4: I think after the first six back six weeks, we 739 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 4: looked back and we're like, Okay, your body's come this far. 740 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 4: This is really good. Now you've got another six weeks. 741 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 4: But you want to be here, but you can't be here. 742 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 4: Your body's not ready for that, so you just got 743 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: to wait another six weeks and just trust the process. 744 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 4: So I just focus on rocking up to training, doing 745 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 4: my program, and then yeah, twelve weeks later, once your 746 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 4: whole program's done and you're looking forward to round one, 747 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 4: you're like, WHOA, Like it's just slow and steady, but 748 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 4: every training session you felt that little bit better, a 749 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: little bit better, and now you're here back with the 750 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 4: girls doing what you love. 751 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: And Bobby, I'm. 752 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 4: Very thankful because he's allowed me to do that and 753 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 4: he's been I was like, as long as he's happy, Yeah, 754 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 4: as long as home spine, I can get myself to 755 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 4: training and do it. So, yeah, it's been it's been 756 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 4: a pretty cool process to look back on now. 757 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very impressive you. 758 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: I guess there's been multiple other women who've been through 759 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: that process as well. But I think you'd still be 760 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: considered a pioneer in women's sport because we're kind of 761 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: at this period where it's becoming so much more professional 762 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: and so pregnancy and childbirth has probably more of an 763 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: impact now on women's careers compared to when sport was. 764 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: More part time. 765 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think whether it's a netbor across 766 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: other sports. Do you think there's big areas of improvement 767 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: that you think could be made after going through that process. 768 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I think just the support. 769 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 4: It's so hard as a female athlete because your prime 770 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 4: years are also your most fertile years, and I just think, 771 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 4: I just don't want it to have to be a choice. 772 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 4: I don't want females to have to choose their career 773 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 4: or choose childbirth and think, yeah, I think they have 774 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 4: to make a choice, and it's actually doable to do both. 775 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 4: And as long as you've got the support around you 776 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 4: in your team and your work life as well as 777 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 4: your support at home, it's very doable. So I think 778 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 4: that's slowly changing in people's minds, and I think, yeah, 779 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 4: the people that have done, like I still look I 780 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 4: still look at Oh Alex Morgan. I watched the Soccer 781 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 4: World Cup just before our World Cup in twenty nineteen, 782 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 4: and I was and then I saw followed her whole 783 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 4: journey of oh, she's pregnant, and then she was come 784 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 4: back for the Olympics and I was like, wow, that's impressive. 785 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 4: And I think she played her first game four months 786 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 4: after having her little girl. So that's what gave me 787 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 4: another positive reinforcement like, oh that's four months. 788 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I can do it. 789 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, the more people that do it 790 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 4: and share their story and put it out there that 791 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: don't shut people down, but also be very real about 792 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 4: it that yeah, Ken, four months is very fast and 793 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 4: there's no competition, like I could come back. I could 794 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 4: have come back in a year's time. It was just 795 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 4: whenever my body was ready. So not to put that 796 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 4: expectation on yourself either is really important, I think too, 797 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 4: because you're trying. It's a big transition at the end 798 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 4: of the day, and as Athleine's used to being just 799 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 4: all about yourself and getting your body right and all 800 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 4: about the team, and now that you have a little one, 801 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 4: it changes your perspective a lot. But also I think 802 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 4: it helps you in a way in that switch off 803 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 4: switch on. 804 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 3: Time in that you go. 805 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 4: To training, you're there for business, and then you come 806 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 4: back and you've got this other life as well, which 807 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 4: is really nice. And I think, yeah, it's one thing 808 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 4: that I want people to realize is it's very very achievable. Yeah, 809 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 4: with all the support, and it's really exciting to see 810 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 4: all that support there too. 811 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I love that because I think, I guess 812 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: a big part of what we're trying to do with 813 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: the FEMA Athlete Project is all about visibility. And it's 814 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: cool that you're at the top of your game in 815 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 1: one sport and looking at someone like Alex Morgan playing 816 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: soccer in a different country. Yeah that even for you 817 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: like that, that can inspire you. So it's really cool 818 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: that you can then get your story out there and 819 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: what you've been through and hopefully like inspire girls back 820 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: home or across the world or whatever it is. I 821 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: think it's pretty amazing what you've done in the way 822 00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: you're sharing your story. 823 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. 824 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: Every week on the show, I have a question from 825 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: a five year old and from my grandma. So firstly, 826 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: I've got a question from five year old Frida. 827 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 5: I've got to for you the tallest girl in your class. 828 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 3: Oh she's adorable. 829 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: I love her name too, she's so cute, named after 830 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: Freda Carlo. 831 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 3: Oh perfect. 832 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 4: Yes, I definitely was Frida. I was, I think the 833 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 4: tallest girl in the school for most of my high 834 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 4: school years. So I remember someone saying to me, and 835 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 4: you're eight, They're like, you've just you're just six foot now, 836 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 4: but by the time you're in year twelve, everyone's going 837 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 4: to catch up to you. 838 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I hope so because I 839 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 3: don't like standing. 840 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 4: Out, it wasn't the case. I just kept growing, but 841 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 4: embrace it. My mum would always say, will she say 842 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 4: coat hanger? And I was like, what she kept saying 843 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 4: it to me, and she's like, put your older is 844 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 4: back like a coat hanger and just own it. She's like, 845 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 4: because there's nothing worse than if you're tall and you're 846 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 4: trying to be shorter, because you won't achieve it. 847 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 3: So just own being tool. 848 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 4: And I was lucky you had tool brothers who was always, 849 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 4: you know, trying to keep up with so I was 850 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 4: kind of trying to catch them in heart as well. 851 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think if you just you own your heart, 852 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 4: you'd be very thankful for it. 853 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 3: Later on. 854 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: I like that coat hanger. I like that that's true. 855 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Grannie's question is. 856 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 4: Hi, Grettel, how has your family supported you through seasons 857 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 4: of change in your life? 858 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 859 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 3: I love that. 860 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 4: Oh, families everything to me, and I think, yeah, they've 861 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 4: just we support each other through every season of change. 862 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 3: Both my brothers played professional sport as well, and. 863 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 4: Mum, I think in a way, she always says, I 864 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 4: wish you'll just took up normal jobs because this is 865 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 4: sporting professional life is such a rollercoaster for everyone involved, 866 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 4: and she's like, I just hope at the end of 867 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 4: your careers you come out like fine, because it's a 868 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 4: lot on your mental, your physical, your emotional health being 869 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 4: in the limelight in sport. But I think just the support, yeah, 870 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 4: of your parents, they keep it very real, very normal. 871 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 4: They always are big on keeping the balance in your 872 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 4: life and switching off time. 873 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 3: Mom's like very big on that. 874 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, I. 875 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 4: Think just they've been so supportive through all the stages, 876 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 4: and I think especially with my journey into motherhood my mum, 877 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 4: I looked at her and I said, oh, do you 878 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 4: think in a way is this being selfish coming back 879 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 4: to doing what I love with Bobby, Like do I 880 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 4: need to be with him all the time as a mum? 881 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: And she said no. 882 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 4: I think when she gave me in the green lights, 883 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 4: she's like, gret all one, I think you can do it, 884 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 4: and no, I think it'll it'll make you a better mum. 885 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: When if you're happy and healthy and doing what you love, 886 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 3: So that was really encouraging. 887 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 4: And I think there's times where Yeah, even last the 888 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 4: two weekends ago, I wasn't happy with my game and 889 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 4: I thought I'd let the team down, and they were 890 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 4: there to support me. 891 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 3: And then they came to. 892 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 4: My next game, even though it was into State, because 893 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 4: they were like, we just we just want to see 894 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 4: you okay and doing what you love and supporting you, 895 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 4: and they're there for you through thick and thin and 896 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 4: keep it very real. So yeah, I think having your 897 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 4: family there through all seasons is really important, and specially 898 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 4: at the same time they ride the journey with you, 899 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 4: that's for sure. 900 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. 901 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: They really do tell us a little bit about the 902 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: super shop for people who don't know about Neble. So 903 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: that came into effect when you were sitting out last 904 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty. 905 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 2: Was I the first time it came in? 906 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it did that through a spinner in the works. 907 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, thank gosh, I'm not playing this season. 908 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 3: Want to sit back and see how this works. But 909 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 3: that was playing on. 910 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 4: My mind because obviously I don't play with a lot 911 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 4: of range, and I was like, this is a this 912 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 4: is a brand new challenge. 913 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 3: But one that I think you've got to. 914 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 4: Embrace as a player otherwise or it is a rule now, 915 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 4: so if you don't embrace it, you don't make it 916 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 4: work for yourself. So I've learned to love it, and 917 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 4: it is something that I'm still trying to master. I 918 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 4: think that's been the one thing that I probably need 919 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 4: to be patient with the most, is getting my head 920 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 4: around the decisions around do you take the two? Do 921 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 4: you take the one? It's a whole new Brull game, 922 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 4: which is exciting. I can see. I could tell last 923 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 4: year while they put it in because I would get 924 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 4: to the five minute mark and I'd be like, oh, 925 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 4: how like we're. 926 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 3: Still we're still in this, like oh. 927 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for people who don't know, So it's in 928 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: the last five minutes and it's outside how far out? 929 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: How far out is the circle? 930 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's a couple of meters yeah, 931 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: yeah or yeah. And so if you shoot from outside there, 932 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: then it's worth two points rather than the traditional one 933 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: point in the last five minutes. 934 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, of every quarter. Yeah. 935 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 4: It's a groovy new rule, and hopefully it doesn't come 936 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 4: into the international network rules that would. 937 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 2: Make that heck, Dick. 938 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to quickly touch on your degree at UNI. 939 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: So in twenty nineteen you graduated from Griffith with a 940 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: Bachelor of Nutrition. How does that kind of fit into 941 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: your life and have you used that post graduation. 942 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done a bit of work with the under 943 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 4: seventy and under nine in Queensland Netble squads, just helping 944 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 4: them with their nutrition, but I haven't got around doing 945 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 4: too much with it yet. It's definitely a passion of 946 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 4: mine though, so I love I'm just introducing Bobby to 947 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 4: solids at the moment, so this is a whole new 948 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 4: journey for us and I love it. Yeah, It's definitely 949 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 4: a passion in something that obviously want to do, and 950 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 4: I'm glad I've got I finally got that degree. 951 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 3: It took a while. 952 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 4: I think being an athlete and moving into a state, 953 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 4: you always want to get that degree, but studying is 954 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 4: the last thing you want to do sometimes when you're 955 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 4: tie from training. 956 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 3: So I'm glad I've got that piece of paper. I 957 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 3: was happy. 958 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 4: I sat on it for a while and now I'm 959 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 4: slowly slowly starting. 960 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 3: To use it. 961 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: What kind of legacy do you hope to leave once 962 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: you eventually retire. 963 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 2: What is it that you like. 964 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: What impact do you hope to make for the next 965 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: generation of young kids coming through. 966 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 4: Oh, that is a great question. I think just following, 967 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 4: like doing what black you want to do, So doing 968 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 4: what you love. So whether that's yet, if you want 969 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 4: to change sports, change sports, don't worry about what people think. 970 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 4: If you want to have a baby, you have a baby. 971 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 3: Just yeah, I. 972 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 4: Think just following your heart and at the same time 973 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 4: doing what you love, because if you do what you love, 974 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 4: you'll be good at it and you'll love it. And 975 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 4: then I think just enjoy it and have the most 976 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 4: fun with your teammates. I think playing a team's fort 977 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 4: is so so good to just always go to training, 978 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 4: have a laugh, see your best mates who you get 979 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 4: to see every day, and you get to call it 980 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 4: work at. 981 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 3: The same time. 982 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 4: So it's a pretty amazing life style being a professional 983 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: athlete and getting to do what you love and see 984 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 4: your best mates every day. 985 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool. I love that. 986 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm a big advocate for that, for just doing what 987 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 1: makes you happy. I feel like sometimes there's so much 988 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: pressure on kids to go to UNI and do a 989 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: specific degree or if you're a really good athlete in 990 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 1: one sport. 991 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 2: You've got to just keep working that. But I love that. 992 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,439 Speaker 1: What makes you happy? I finish every episode with three 993 00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: would you rather? Questions? I love this so Number one? 994 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: Would you rather win a sun Corps Supernetbow Grand Final 995 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: by dunking it or hitting a super shot on the buzzer? 996 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 3: Super shot on the buzzer? I reckon? 997 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Number two? 998 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: In a Calm Games gold medal match, would you rather 999 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: have the game of your life and your team lose 1000 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 1: by one? 1001 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 2: Or sit on the bench and the team win. 1002 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 3: Sit on the bench and the team win? For sure. 1003 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 2: The good team answer? I like it. Number three? 1004 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: Would you rather clean up a Bobby Pooh explosion that's 1005 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: happened in the. 1006 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 2: Bath or in his car seat from the bar. 1007 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 3: Down? He's done both too, as you really? 1008 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good, amazing. Before we go, where can 1009 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: people find you on Instagram? 1010 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 3: G Tippett? Type in G tip It and you'll see me. 1011 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on and having a chat. 1012 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: I've absolutely loved hearing all about your journey and the 1013 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: role your family played, your transition between sports and your 1014 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: journey into motherhood. It's pretty amazing and I love what 1015 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: you're doing and inspiring the next generation. It's really cool, 1016 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: So thanks so much for coming on. 1017 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 3: Thanks Chloe, I've loved it, love chatting. 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