WEBVTT - NIKITA IMAN - RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE - STAN AUSTRALIA 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.240 It's in the news today, but it was actually on TV. 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:03.560 Reload the podcast last week. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:03.920 They're right. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:06.840 Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.280 thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.760 Nikita Iman, who was the sixth eliminated queen from RuPaul's 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.640 Drag Race down Under season four. This week, it could 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.360 have been really anyone that went home, and while I 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.919 did feel confident that this week it would be ViBe's 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.200 time to shine, I was surprised by a few things 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.280 that took place, which we will unpack today. Sadly, I 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.480 did think it was time for Nikita to go home. However, 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.520 I did think that she was a fabulous addition to 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.400 the cast. Nikita will talk about the hardest challenge this 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.120 season and how she seemed to overcome it. We will 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.360 unpack all the queens left and what's their pros and cons. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.000 I find out if any of them did get on 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.880 each other's nerves behind the scenes. You will get everything 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.840 from what that necklace Nikita wore meant to her, how 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.920 being a New Zealand queen is different to being an 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.520 Australian queen, and what she thinks of her lip sync 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.040 partner that beat her. There is actually so much to 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.920 talk about, with so many inside revelations, So guys sit 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.800 back and relax as we unpacked the wonderful world of 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.880 Rupel's drag Race down Under Season four, Oakatia, how are you? 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:08.119 I'm good? Thank you, my love? 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.840 How are you very well? I have to say that 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.080 I've really been enjoying this series, and I don't know 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.400 whether it's because the queens are so good or whether 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.800 I just love Michelle Visage and so she's sort of 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.880 carry So I don't know, what do you think, looking 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.960 from being a participant, what do you think makes this 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.399 season seem a little bit more leveled up from the 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:28.000 other ones? 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.440 Like, I've absolutely loved watching the season. Every single episode 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.279 has just been better than the one before. The energy 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.520 from the girls is just so refreshing, and obviously being 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.280 there and have had experienced everything, we knew. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:43.840 That this was going to be such a special season. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:45.720 And I don't know whether what they did with the 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.640 cast thing, whether if they were just you know, really 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.000 being picky with the girls that they were putting through, 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.720 but it was just such a good mix of girls 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.800 and being there, we all got along so well. I 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.680 think we were all in such a spirit to uplift 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.320 each and really celebrate each other, but then also not 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.480 to be too scared about you know, we're ten drag 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:05.080 queans in the room. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:06.120 Of course things are going to be. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.160 Said, feelings are going to be hurt and stuff like that. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.399 But I didn't think that we Yeah, we didn't shy 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.120 away from our opinions, but we also didn't shy away 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.680 from celebrating each other. That plus Michelle, I don't know, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.880 it's just really made the season so infectious and every 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.760 single girl offers something different. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.239 It's relatable, and. 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.280 I mean, me being on there's another reason why the 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:33.720 seasons in it. But in the end at but yeah, 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.000 I mean the runways have been fab, the lip SyncE 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.080 have been fab, the challenges had been fab, and just yeah, 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:43.200 if we're really giving an all well rounded seasonal. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.760 Drag race, so you didn't clash with anyone the whole time? 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:46.639 You were pretty good? 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.680 Yeah, I was fine, to be honest. I mean I 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.200 don't really I'm not really come off. I come off 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:57.280 as a really caddy queen, but I don't like get 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.160 a big tension or kind of like badjoetoo and my 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.280 work environment or home environment, and so I always just 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.200 made an effort to be so welcoming to the girls 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.960 and like just to really get along with everyone. And 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.320 so I think because there was an openness and willingness 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.880 to get along, no one really clashed. I mean, there 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.760 are moments where Vibes's voice was just too much in 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.040 my ear. But if it wasn't for Vibes some days, 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.720 you know, her loud personality and energy really got me 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.640 through some days. So I think as family goes, we 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.040 were on each other's nerves here and there after long 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.600 there filming, but we all got along so well, which. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:33.040 Was I think. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.000 Yeah, you can definitely see that throughout the series, and 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.200 I think that's what made has been making people so 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:39.600 addicted to it. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.520 Yeah, I mean I think as well, maybe it could 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:47.040 be your New Zealand culture or you're from where you're from. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.600 I felt like for you, you brought something quite open. 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.160 I wonder if that's something that comes from being a 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:53.960 New Zealand queen. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.200 I mean, like I'm in the Zeer right now and 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.760 I walking around and looking around and computing thing. In 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.640 this Australians, we're definitely a lot more laid back and 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.680 a lot more have come and more relaxing, and so 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.960 I think that definitely helped me throughout my journey on 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:13.240 the season. I don't really I do well under pressure, 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.360 but most times I kind of just shut down and 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:16.279 keep to myself. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.960 And so it was nice to be in the work 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:19.840 room and. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.479 Don't really have a lot of pressure on my own 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.599 shoulders to allow me to just have fun and really 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.159 enjoy the environment that I was in. And I feel 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.440 like that's what really helps me kind of not really 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.400 get in my head and not necessarily let out of 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.760 what the girls were saying about me get to me. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.960 But that comes from like ballroom dancing, Ryan, because I 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.680 was like thinking about you going into this series. I 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.880 know people that have done dance and that style of 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:48.800 dance do have to be very concentrated on yourself. I 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.200 don't know if that's the right way to say it. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.400 I feel like when you're in bare room, you kind 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.920 of have to commit to the fantasy that you've made 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.280 and then give that fantasy with so much confidence and 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.279 so and that's just what I've. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:03.239 Learned over the years. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.760 And then that mentality it really got me through drag 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.039 Race was just being confident in what I bring and 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.880 being confident and knowing that what I bring is different. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.360 It's refreshing, it's a different take, a different perspective on drag. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.560 And I mean there were times where I did have 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.560 a little bit of imposter syndrome, you know, with such 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.960 a big personalities that lazy Susan brenda on, you know, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.720 on the season, and kind of comparing myself to what 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.960 they do, but also understanding that my drug is just 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.080 such a I pull from different inspirations, my type of drag. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.680 I'm surrounded by so many different queens people, and so 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.640 that's where I pulled my drag from. And I think 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.279 when I accepted that, I was you can definitely tell 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.160 that throughout the season that once I kind of realized 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.919 that what I'm bringing is special and everybody's you know, 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:48.880 there's going to be so many people who relate to 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.880 what I bring, I was just Yeah, I was unstoppable. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:53.159 I was just having so much fun. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.480 Well, I was looking at something in this this week's episode. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.160 You're wearing a necklace the which had dependent on it, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.920 and I was wondering if that was a part of 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.679 the New Zealand culture. Was actually super some sentenedness, because 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:06.080 that's all. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.360 Yeah, yeah, so it's got a tunga and it's a maldi. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.400 It's not something that you can buy, so it's something 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.120 that has to be gifted to you by someone special. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.320 So that was gifted to me by my brother and 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.440 I was just I didn't even realize that I wore 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:20.920 that so much in the show, and I'm so glad 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.880 that I did, because there's so many people that messaged 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.360 me about, you know, having the Mauldi tongua on Showcase, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.320 and then I think especially being away from New Zealand 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.479 and being away from people that I see that, I know, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.560 it was just nice to be able to represent something 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.719 that a lot of my Kiwi friends here and Sydney 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:41.359 can relate to. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:42.720 And I was just, yeah, I was just really nice 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:43.480 to see that on TV. 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:45.720 When you were wearing it, I noticed that you were 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.760 more confident for some reason. I don't know if that's 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.960 me just sort of looking into that, but I just noticed. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.760 I mean it also could have been that often when 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.840 you were wearing that, you're out of drag and you're 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:59.440 a very attractive looking so maybe that's where I was 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:05.359 getting that. But moments where you were, you know, working 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.159 on what the challenge was coming up and you were 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.400 wearing it, and I thought that you seemed more calm 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.280 and more confident and more what the word is for that, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:14.640 like appealing? I don't know. 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.840 I do find that every time that I do were 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.200 something that is representative of my culture or kind of 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.520 my background, I do find that I do lift my 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.960 head up a little bit higher. I do walk around 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.760 with a little bit more pride and kind of gratitude 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:28.280 as well. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:29.800 And I think that's really important. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.640 That really helped me throughout the show was just kind 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.800 of being grateful for being there, and then also just 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.720 really being grateful for the experience of opportunity, and then 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.680 just showcasing what my style. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.200 Do you know? What's really funny to me is that 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.440 I always think about we know how to make ourselves 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.240 look the most appealing, but we forget to do that 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.800 all the time, do you know. Yeah, It'll be the 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.920 smallest thing that will throw us off and we'll forget 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:54.680 to lift our chin. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.280 Absolutely, And I think that there's like a lot of 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.320 the girls on the season, you know, when they were 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.680 getting bad critiques and kind of in bad placements, I 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.440 did see in person like how you're in a step 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.720 of talking get to you, and so I was like, wow, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:08.880 you know, like you see this on. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.400 The show and now you're actually watching it. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.120 You know, people kind of going into the heads, are 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.120 kind of spiraling, And I've been in those moments previously 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.480 before in my life and I've overcome them. So I 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.880 knew that when I went into the show, I knew that, 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.120 you know, there might be moments where I would get 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.640 into my head, but I've ever come so many other 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.080 things in my life that like being on the show 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.840 and being and drag is not really that serious for 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.080 me enough to really get down on myself, and so 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.400 I just knew that I had to be kind kind 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.360 to myself in those moments of. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:38.080 Me being low. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.240 And I think because I had that mentality, I was 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:46.080 never really upset or angry or anxious about my performance. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.880 I knew my highes, I knew. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.360 What I was really really good at, and then I 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.160 knew that the things that I wasn't so good at 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.560 as a work in progress. So when I did lend 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.040 in those placements, I was like, period, but I still 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.360 did it, and I'm still here, so let's go do this. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.680 Make it all the way to this point of the competition. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.560 No, I look at they top five top five? 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.640 Can you believe it? The part of the Spice Girls. 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.560 But I want to know, because you've been in the 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.720 competition for most of it, you have competed in challenge 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:16.240 after challenge, which challenge was the hardest for you? 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.480 I would probably say last week's challenged. The acting challenge, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.520 I think was I think the one that I was 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:26.520 most unsure off when doing it and then also anxious 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.840 for it to come out. And that was just mainly 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.760 because I've never really been in a situation where i 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.200 had to do any you know, anything character, coming up 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:36.479 with the character, learning. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.760 The lines, and then doing it all in one day. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.520 And so when I kind of knew that that was 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.880 the situation, I just knew that I just had to 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.360 do what I can do. I came up with the 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.200 character that I thought that I came up with, you 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.200 know that I had confidence in doing I learnt my lines, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.800 and so when I went out there with Reese, I 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.240 think it was just me knowing. I mean, it was 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.800 very similar to my snatchhaing with Mother Nature. Was that 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.280 I just don't want to be quiet or shy or 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.840 too nervous to do something that I've never done, and 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.079 so that was my mentality, especially when tackling those challenges 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.200 that I've never done before, was well, you know, if 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.280 I'm going to go and let me go full and 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.560 let me just be a full or do something silly 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.560 or do something stupid, at least it's something memorable instead of, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.840 you know, getting the critiques off you're just a pretty 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.280 girl who is too afraid to be ugly or to 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.120 be loud and stuff. And so I feel like that 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.800 was a tech but definitely I think could definitely need 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.520 a little bit more work it give your workshop. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:33.640 A little bit of that. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.800 I don't think that I know when I know actual 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.280 professional actors, and I don't think I know any actors 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:42.160 that feel like that they've ever achieved total success. Most 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.480 of the actors that I know and that I do 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.559 really well and are recognizable, they often say that they 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.199 don't think that they've ever got it right, you know 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.360 what I mean. Yeah, I think comedy can be the 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.520 same as well. Like watching people do comedy is a 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.080 really hard challenge as well, because comedy is incredibly difficult. 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.400 You know, it's immediate if it's live and you're in 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.720 front of an audience and you're not watching them laugh. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.680 It's pretty hard not to go into your head over it, like, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.280 oh fun it is, and now what you know? 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.600 Yeah, exactly, especially when I've seen that and writing jokes 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.000 and lines and also a layout, like it's not just 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.200 running down jokes and saying the jokes that to lay out. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.920 You know, there's a formula too when you do a roast, 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.440 and I'm just not really experienced with that formula. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.640 But like I wrote some jokes, I had some laughs, 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.720 which I'm really proud of. It's something that I can 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.840 say that I've done, as you know, I'm so proud of. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.560 I think it's about finding Elaine as well. I don't 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.840 think absolutely yeah name dropping him right now, will I 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.800 pick it up? But even he said to me one 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.560 day that comedy for him was about finding where he 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.240 fitted in the comedy sphere. And so his comedy is 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.360 telling stories. It's not a punchline, you know, eating that way. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.719 It's the silliness in the story and the and the 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.360 ability to tell that. And when you're being put up 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.480 on a challenge like in Rue Paul's and you've got 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.480 to sort of it's got to be fast paced, it's 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.000 got to be one, one, two, three punch and if 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.920 you aren't doing it like that, it looks like you're 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.280 not landing. But yeah, in fact, some of the best 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.000 comedians in the world couldn't do that. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:13.040 Absolutely. 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.480 I did find that myself are more of a storyteller 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.080 when it comes to telling jokes. But I think it's 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.640 just again workshopping those storytelling and kind of the formula 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.680 of storytelling. Because when I was doing my run through 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.560 and kind of like telling my jokes to the girls, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.800 they were saying the rosis like a compliment, sandwich or something. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:34.440 Where's that compliment? Joke? Compliment? And I was just insulting. 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:35.960 Well, I mean, good on you. I think you know, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.760 good on you for getting up there and giving it 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.800 a shot. I'm terrified. That is my ultimate fear. People 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.240 to me throughout my very famous comedian approached me and 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.800 said you would be a really good stand up comedian, 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.480 and I was like no, And they were like telling 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.400 me about how they could teach me how to do it, 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.959 and I just I almost sort of believed them for 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.679 a second, and then I thought, hang on a second, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.120 there's absolutely no way I could stand in front of 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.320 a live audience like that. Yeah, anyway, you know what, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.079 because you've just you're in the top five, We've got 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.439 four people left. I don't know how easily we can 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.760 do this, but can we do the pros and cons 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:10.679 on who's left? 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.160 As Oh, okay fair? 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.000 So like, I just feel like we need to unpack 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.120 this at this point. So Lazy's what do you reckon? 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:20.600 Okay, Lazy's pros her mind, her can, her face, vibes, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:25.200 pro her personality, I mean, vibe is such an invitious personality. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.679 And then her con would be, I mean her I 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.120 would say her drag dyle isn't in. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.360 Meant her I shouldn't say that, is it really mean? 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.520 It's very polished traditional drag, and I mean she does 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.320 the outside of the box sometimes, but I feel like 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.920 she pulls a lot from her traditional roots and drag, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.200 and I feel like it could be a little bit more. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:47.600 Means herve Mandy Mandy's I love Mandy Mannet I got 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.960 so close with during filming. Mendy's pros is obviously her 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.160 sewing ability, such an amazing scene stress, and then her 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.600 con would be she just didn't know how. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:02.880 To cover her beard on the show. It was five 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:03.880 o'clock all day. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.320 I want to talk about Mandy just really quickly before 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.679 we moved onto frame. There's something about Mandy, because I 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.960 know lots of people that know Mandy and Brisbane and 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.680 absolutely talk so highly. So there's been something throughout the 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.520 series where I look, she looks a little uncomfortable, Like 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.320 she looks like she's talking through her teeth. Is that 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.040 just part of who she is? Or did you I 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.560 want to know whether or not you think the Mandy 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.280 edit the West Seeing is what you know as Mandy. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:31.120 That's what I want to know. 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.640 Oh, I mean I was quite I mean, I wasn't 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:35.200 really surprised. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.120 It was very nice to see many on the show, 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.720 especially after you know, like doing all the filming and 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:41.960 everything with her. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.160 The Mandy coming through is very was very much her. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.960 I feel like maybe after the past couple of weeks, 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.840 especially with her performance last week, she was very kind 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.320 of like and her head about the choices that she 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.520 made think a baby, So I don't know whether if 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:00.360 that really translated through this episode. And also I knew 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.400 how uncomfortable she was worth the challenge this week, so 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.120 I feel like maybe she was just kind of like 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.520 waiting for it to kind of finish and waiting for 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.000 this challenge to kind of move on to the ni Excer. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.480 But I mean, I feel like Mandy's been very true 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:14.600 to who she was. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.440 I mean, I didn't realize that she was such a 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.640 burcher and fucking confessionals, but I guess we all were. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.480 Yeah, I think you're right in the sense that, yeah, 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.840 she has been a bit savage in the confessionals, but 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.320 you know, quite good in the confessionals as well as 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:29.640 I want to slipe her around a bit because I 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.239 actually feel like there is a missing part of confidence 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.200 with Mandy Moves. That's what I think. There's a missing part. 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.440 And because of that insecurity that's there, sometimes she comes 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.440 off a little bit harsh or a little bit great, 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.760 and I don't think that's who that person is. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.520 That's what I No, No, I don't think so either. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.280 I mean I had moments where I was kind of 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.240 like being a little but lift out to where I 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.800 was just saying stuff like dumb things to say dumb things, 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.920 And I feel like with Mandy, I don't know whether 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.800 if she you know, like she had her high with 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.600 the Sewing Challenge and then like she was just like Okay, 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.560 well now I'm just here to you know, make it 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.160 to the end, But how can I do that when 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.480 her highlight has kind of finished in a way. And 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.880 so I did find that she was kind of fading, 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.040 you know, to the background a little bit after the 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.080 Sewing Challenge, and so I do feel like she was 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:17.880 she could have been a little bit unsure in her 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.080 place in the competition, but you know, every single week 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.760 she kind of did a really good job and you know, 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.640 either being safe, you know, after the Sewing Challenge and staff. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.920 And I do feel like maybe because since the Sewing 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.120 Challenge she hasn't really had a high that she was 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.720 feeling a little bit unsure in herself and kind of 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.160 unsure and her placement in the finals as well. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.280 Perhaps sometimes I think, you know, I don't know if 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.160 you've ever done any knitting, but when you are knitting 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:42.920 and you've made a mistake and you've got to go 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.240 back and fix it, there's a face that people pulled. Okay, Yeah, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.160 that's how I feel like some of the time that 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.320 Mandy's come across, I don't know that's yeah, no. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:51.840 I know what face you talking about. It's like, yeah, 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.520 I know which face, Yeah, I know which one you're 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:54.000 talking about. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.200 I'm going to go back five space. I can untuck 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.000 all of this stuff. I don't I know, Freyer, what 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:00.640 have we got left? We've got that's right. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.280 Such a beautiful queen, Such a beautiful queen. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.560 I do feel like she, you know, hasn't really had 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.600 the moment where she really is a main highlight throughout 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.800 the throughout the season. And I feel like maybe with 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.160 the finale, you know, with hoving in the finals, would 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.080 really push her to just really excel in what she's 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.240 really good at, because you know, we were all really 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.600 kind of expecting her to take the Girl Group Challenge, which. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.679 She ended up being in the bottom. But yeah, no, 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.160 I love her. She's such a beautiful queen. 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.240 I was so so annoyed when all the pretty girls 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:31.960 walked in and as I really thought I was going 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:32.720