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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: Something that was spent discussing most of the weekend is

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Speaker 2: the disappearance of Melissa Catic. So many different theories. One

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Speaker 2: theory that is the stuff of movies is that she

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Speaker 2: had a foot surgically removed and then threw it in

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Speaker 2: the water and now was living life because some doctor

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Speaker 2: helped her out.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is grizzly stuff.

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Speaker 1: And through all of this, I remember that there's a husband,

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Speaker 1: she has a son who's fifteen. So no matter what

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Speaker 1: her crimes were, this is you know, I know she's

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Speaker 1: a mother.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's one of the theories.

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Speaker 1: It was in the paper that maybe, despite the fact

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Speaker 1: her foot had been found, there were other body parts

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Speaker 1: found in another beach further down. They aren't verified yet

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Speaker 1: to be hers. We don't know that it may not be,

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Speaker 1: but there's some that she may still be alive even

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Speaker 1: though her foot bones were found in a shoe. What

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Speaker 1: you're speculating, and a few people have been saying that

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Speaker 1: is that she had foot removed.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: So there's a surgical team. There's a team presumably who

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Speaker 1: fit a prosthesis.

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Speaker 3: Allow people who know it.

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Speaker 1: You can't just book a room in a hospital nor garage.

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Speaker 2: I'm not subscribing to this theory, but it's the stuff

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Speaker 2: of a Hollywood movie. Remember back in the eighties when

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Speaker 2: they found that torso and then they found it arm,

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Speaker 2: and then they found an arm, and then they found

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Speaker 2: a third arm, and that threw everyone off because this

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Speaker 2: guy's got three arms, Remember that in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: And also they're now wondering that she could have taken

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Speaker 1: her own life that morning because there weren't any cameras

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Speaker 1: near the cliffs where she lived. But they're saying they

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Speaker 1: don't think the shoe has been in the water that long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the police are saying also, and I could sort

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Speaker 2: of understand where they're coming from here. They say a

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Speaker 2: body was to go off that part of Sydney, it

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Speaker 2: would probably end up in Marubra.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't go as far as it could. They see it could.

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Speaker 2: But I spent a lot of time out in the surf,

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Speaker 2: and you know there's a lot of and it would

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Speaker 2: have been around the time when a lot of people

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Speaker 2: were boating and out there.

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Speaker 3: You know, it just it would have said that close

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Speaker 3: to the shore, well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it would have washed up sooner. And there's

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Speaker 2: big there's been big eastern swells.

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Speaker 3: So what does this mean?

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Speaker 1: And then there was speculation that someone had killed her,

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Speaker 1: but she owed money, why would someone take her life?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Remember that time that I rescued what I thought was

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Speaker 2: a body, but it was a palm frond. I paddled

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Speaker 2: all the way out and I thought it was a body.

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Speaker 3: Did you save it? Yeah? That you know writes me

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Speaker 3: cards in that time. It's pathetically grateful.

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Speaker 2: It was got a bit stalkily there for a while.

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Speaker 1: Well, but this is what's interesting too with this case

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Speaker 1: is she's taken no money out of her accounts. She

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Speaker 1: took nothing with her, no car keys, nothing. But if

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Speaker 1: she was so clever as to have all that fake paperwork,

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Speaker 1: the police have forensically gone through her accounts, all of

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Speaker 1: it was fake. You've got to be smart to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could put money someone wasting into a You could

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Speaker 1: get your clients to put money directly into a debit

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Speaker 1: card because apparently they've closed that loophole now, but up

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Speaker 1: to twenty thousand dollars you're going to have put into

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Speaker 1: your debit card that's not attached to any bank account.

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Speaker 1: And if you had a whole stack of people doing that,

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Speaker 1: with twenty thousand dollars, you'd have access to a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of money you can draw down anywhere that's not

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Speaker 1: connected to your accounts.

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Speaker 2: But also you could she could have just started off

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Speaker 2: doing this, starts taking a little bit of money, buys

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Speaker 2: herself a nice to your bag, and they say, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's nice, and then keeps doing it, and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden one day, the crushing reality of what

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Speaker 2: she's done.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think when there's a knock at the door

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Speaker 3: and they're going through yours and.

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Speaker 2: That's when the crashing reality.

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Speaker 3: But what's your theory? And she took her life was.

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Speaker 2: Just oh my god, what can she just And that's

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Speaker 2: and that's But if.

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Speaker 1: Her body hasn't been in the water that long, that's interesting,

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Speaker 1: what's the story? And maybe she was squirreling money away

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Speaker 1: long before people started looking into her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows? Who knows?

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Speaker 2: What lurks in the hearts of men?

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Speaker 1: And when I can play fair alright in people? Jonesy

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Speaker 1: and Amanda's gamenation