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Speaker 1: diesel and unleaded prices. But joining me in the studio

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Speaker 1: is the opposition leader, Leah fanocchiiro.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Lead, Good mining Katie in to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you in the studio now, Leah. We

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Speaker 1: know that the cost of petrol, it's something that's been

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Speaker 1: Those prices continue to go up. Despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: gate price is sitting at a dollar fifty nine point six.

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Speaker 1: Now the average at the bowser a dollar ninety five.

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Speaker 1: When you go across to the diesel, the terminal gate

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Speaker 2: Leah, I understand.

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Speaker 1: That you've gone a step further this morning, or you're

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Speaker 3: We do so.

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Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago in Parliament we gave notice

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Speaker 2: Lea, are you just ground standing here? I mean obviously that.

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Speaker 1: Would take some time to really get happening and get moving.

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime the prices continue to go down

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Speaker 4: Well, we can't afford to do nothing, and I think

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Speaker 3: I know myself.

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Speaker 4: You know, we went to buy some lawn fertilizer that

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Speaker 2: So how would this happen?

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Speaker 2: But where can they can pull the lever right now?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely without question it can be pulled right now and

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Speaker 2: Look?

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Speaker 4: So we've certainly been encouraging people. Now is the time

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is.

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Speaker 3: There's no question, Katie, we go into this byol as

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Speaker 2: Do I really think you can claw that kind of percentage?

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Speaker 4: You know, they've got a parachuted captain's pick candidate straight

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Speaker 4: And I think it's great that she's realized, as have

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Speaker 2: Would you look though, at.

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Speaker 4: Look, they've both decided to be independence. I mean they

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Speaker 4: We were not aligned to a political party. So really

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Speaker 3: It's really got nothing to do with me.

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Speaker 4: But what I know is that it's important that people

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Speaker 1: Robin Lamley is calling for the government at the moment

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, this is certainly something we've been watching obviously.

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Speaker 4: I've been speaking with Bill Yann and Josh Burgoyne about it.

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Speaker 4: There is a pokem machine cap and my understanding is

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Speaker 4: that there's no proposal to go over the cap. So

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Speaker 4: we certainly support that. Pokem machines are of course a

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Speaker 4: legal game for people to play. They do cause harm

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Speaker 4: it's an extremely highly regulated industry, so you know, we're

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Speaker 4: certainly not wanting to exacerbate any of the issues in

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Speaker 4: you know, it's not the pokem machine is not the

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Speaker 4: devil there. It's failed policy that's causing the problem. We'd

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Speaker 4: like to see each like.

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Speaker 1: You could be sitting on the fence the same as

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Speaker 1: Chancey Paikers apparently on this one.

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Speaker 4: No, no, we you know, poke machines are legal. We

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Speaker 4: support the cap. We wouldn't want to see machines going

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Speaker 4: the cap, well you know.

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Speaker 3: That's got to go through the approvals process.

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Speaker 4: Nothing has been sorted out yet, but I think what

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Speaker 4: the concern in Alice Springs is this is just going

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Speaker 4: to bring more misery to what already is a town

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Speaker 4: under siege. And what we've got is a government bearing

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Speaker 4: social behavior, all of the problems they're having. I mean,

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Speaker 4: emblazoned in our minds, you know, like when is enough enough?

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Speaker 4: Like when is the government going to stop the excuses

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Speaker 1: Well, the COLP Senator for the Northern Territory, just enter Price,

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Speaker 1: speak of. Does the Prime Minister need to come to

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Speaker 1: Central Australia.

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Speaker 3: Without question.

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Speaker 4: This is the same prime Minister that wants to have

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Speaker 4: an Aboriginal voice to Parliament but doesn't listen to an

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Speaker 4: aboriginal voice like just Enterprise. I mean, she is an

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Speaker 4: incredibly passionate, powerful territorian who is calling out this type

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Speaker 4: of behavior that's plaguing our communities and absolutely support her.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not okay for token gestures what we

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Speaker 4: need is genuine action. But you know, terrorI labor can't

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Speaker 4: get away with this either. It's their policy framework that's

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Speaker 4: led to this disaster. It's their winding back of youth

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Speaker 4: of all of these things you know that used to

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Speaker 4: So you know, I think the Prime Minister should be

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Speaker 4: in Alie Springs and he can have a look for himself.

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Speaker 1: Well, Lea, we are going to have to leave it there.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate your time. Thanks very much for having

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Speaker 1: a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Take care everyone,