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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam.

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Speaker 2: Nation down to the jonesy De matter of arms, to

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Speaker 2: the pub test. Mark McGowan quitting because he's tired, Does

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Speaker 2: it pass the pub test? This is WA's premier.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about this earlier today that I think it's

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Speaker 3: harder for a woman to say she's tired than a

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Speaker 3: guy because then women men go, well, well, she wasn't

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Speaker 3: up to it. Women aren't strong enough.

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Speaker 2: Men think that, but you kind of go off fair enough.

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Speaker 2: But he's a bit tougher for a guy to quit

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Speaker 2: when he's tired. But that's right.

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Speaker 3: You said that, you think it's easier for a woman

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Speaker 3: to say she's tired than for a guy because you

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Speaker 3: think it's weak when a man says it.

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Speaker 2: Not weak, it's just the way we were raised. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that that's weak by the way you've misunderstood me.

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Speaker 2: But in my mind, you look at it, how long

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this job for twenty years, had a

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Speaker 2: motorcycle accident, I was in the work next day, break

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Speaker 2: them back and shoulder. That's the era that I do that.

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Speaker 2: That was that was the era that I was raised on.

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Speaker 2: It's I don't judge other people for what they do.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying for me, I can't stop because

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Speaker 2: I love doing this.

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Speaker 3: But you said with Mark mcgow when you heard the news,

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Speaker 3: you's like, I was true, no in.

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Speaker 2: My mind, and I went, yeah, you know, you know

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Speaker 2: it's because that's a hard job to get into. I

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Speaker 2: would imagine you've got to get your votes, you've got

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Speaker 2: to get it selected, you've got to do all that,

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Speaker 2: and then you win, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: when you've only been on the job for six years,

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Speaker 2: you're going to leave. That's my thing.

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Speaker 3: Whereas I think post COVID, now if that was me,

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Speaker 3: I think post COVID, we're far more aware of our

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Speaker 3: mental health and of the right that we have to

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Speaker 3: pull the pin when we don't feel right about things,

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Speaker 3: rather than that old soldier on mentality.

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Speaker 2: Also, he's got a different job as well. He is

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Speaker 2: in control of a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, we're not comparing our job to hear.

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Speaker 2: You want him to be at the top of his game,

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Speaker 2: not slacking off.

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Speaker 3: Mark McGowan quitting because he's tired. Does it pass the

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Speaker 3: pub test?

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Speaker 1: Look, it's a lame excuse, but I'm going to say yes,

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Speaker 1: because if he's tired, he's not going to do the

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Speaker 1: job properly, so step down and hand it to someone

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Speaker 1: who's ready to take the reins.

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Speaker 4: I think it's those parts of the pub test. You've

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Speaker 4: got to be enthusiastic and passionate when you're in public office,

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Speaker 4: and you've got to do it well. And if you're

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Speaker 4: no longer able to do that, I think you need

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Speaker 4: to be upfront about that. And I say that he's

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Speaker 4: the bigger man for being able to say that.

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Speaker 1: Of course it passes the pub first.

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Speaker 4: You know who wants a tired politician? Many more should

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Speaker 4: follow suit, not mentioning any names. Yes, definitely good on him.

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Speaker 4: He was passionate about his state and the people. It's

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Speaker 4: good that he is honest.

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Speaker 1: You need somebody that's going to look after the state

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Speaker 1: that's fresh and has got a lot more in the tank. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it does. I mean if we want to be serious

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Speaker 1: about embracing mental health and looking at us through our

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Speaker 1: well being, then we shouldn't stigmatize this. If we're going

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Speaker 1: to be serious, we need to embrace it holistically.

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Speaker 2: You don't in finding it in that's for sure. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's something we could do. We'll become premiers of Western Australia.

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Speaker 3: What is the discussion about Mark McGowan. If you said

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Speaker 3: earlier you wanted to take Koshi's job, now you want

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Speaker 3: to take Mark McGowan.

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Speaker 2: Why did you just say that Koshi just put my

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Speaker 2: hat into the ring you heard him yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Sounds a lot like you're doing impression of costion.

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Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all, Okay,