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Speaker 1: You've probably seen in national news that the federal government

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Speaker 1: is planning to bring in new laws that will set

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Speaker 1: fuel efficiency standards on new cars being sold in Australia.

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Speaker 1: It's going to force car companies to supply more fuel

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Speaker 1: efficient cars through targets placed on a mission per kilometer

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Speaker 1: for new passenger vehicles and light commercial vehicles. The move

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Speaker 1: is also set to reduce fuel and diesel costs, is

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Speaker 1: what they're saying for motorists, with modeling predicting that drivers

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Speaker 1: would save up to one thousand dollars by twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Now joining us on the line to give us their

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Speaker 1: take on the proposal is the Motor Trades Association for

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory, the chief executive Darryl Jacobs. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Daryl.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Codye and good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Lovely to have you on the show. Now tell me

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Speaker 1: what is the MOTI Trade Association's take on this proposal.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think to start with, you know, this is

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Speaker 2: a really really important decision in the Australia's automotive history,

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Speaker 2: probably the biggest one in a number of years. I

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Speaker 2: suppose in summary, we need to be very careful for

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Speaker 2: this transition. You know, the reality is Australians we love

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Speaker 2: our utes and we love our suv. Yeah, and there's

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Speaker 2: not a lot of options in that area at the

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Speaker 2: moment for hybrids or evs, which will be more full

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Speaker 2: efficient over time that will come. So the transition needs

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Speaker 2: to be planned and ultimately what needs to happen is

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Speaker 2: we need to maintain affordability of vehicles for customers out

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Speaker 2: there on the road.

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Speaker 1: That is such a good point and I noted yesterday

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Speaker 1: you guys had actually seemed to add of pressure Lea

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Speaker 1: saying that the top five vehicles sold in the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory in twenty twenty three were the Toyota Highlux, the

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Speaker 1: Toyota Prado, the Ford Ranger, the Toyota high Lux two

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Speaker 1: by four and the Rav four. They're all quite big cars.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the RAV not so big, but yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know there'll be people sort of wondering, how am I

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Speaker 1: still going to be able to drive me use if

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Speaker 1: we're going down this path.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, at the moment, it's in the consultation process.

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Speaker 2: So obviously we're talking to government together with other industry bodies.

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Speaker 2: It looks like something will come into play on the

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Speaker 2: first of January twenty five, and it will only affect

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Speaker 2: new vehicles from the nornwards. It will be an average

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Speaker 2: of CO two across the whole fleet. So the brand

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Speaker 2: will still look to sell utes, but they'll have to

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Speaker 2: offset that we're selling potentially hybrids and evs. But the

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Speaker 2: reality is right now today there is only one ED available.

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Speaker 2: It's fully electric. It's around one hundred thousand dollars. And

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Speaker 2: the challenge in that area is the moment you put

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Speaker 2: batteries and that in there, you lose payloads, you lose

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Speaker 2: doing so there's a lot to be thought through here.

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Speaker 1: There is so much to be thought through. And look,

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Speaker 1: I'm certainly not opposed to it. I've got a hybrid

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Speaker 1: car myself, so I'm not opposed to it in any way.

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Speaker 1: But I always think about this stuff from that real

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Speaker 1: practical sense. And you know, even for us here in

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Speaker 1: the territory, we don't really have the infrastructure I guess

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Speaker 1: to support you know, like the electric vehicles. If you

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Speaker 1: are someone who's working remote or you know, let's say

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Speaker 1: you've got you're a tradee with a use it, it

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Speaker 1: is going to make things more difficult.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, Definitely, It's not just in the Northern Territory. Infrastructure

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Speaker 2: is an important issue across Australia, and then together with

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Speaker 2: that is obviously retraining of our workforce. You know, I

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Speaker 2: have a number of mechanics out there that are mechanically

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Speaker 2: based and these people need to be very trained to

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Speaker 2: understand how evs work and the like. So there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of extras to think through, I suppose. So you know,

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Speaker 2: the summary for us is let's have a good conversation

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Speaker 2: and let's not rush into this. Let's take our time.

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Speaker 2: And I think that we're all on the boat that

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Speaker 2: we want. You know, we don't want the planet to

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Speaker 2: warm too much, and we all want CEO two emissions

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Speaker 2: to reduce. It's just about, you know, the road of

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Speaker 2: getting there, and let's make sure that everyone comes along

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Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the practicalities of it, and making sure that it's

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Speaker 1: affordable for so many odds that are already struggling through

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Speaker 1: that cost of living situation that we're currently in. So

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Speaker 1: it is so worth having the conversation. And I understand

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Speaker 1: that the Motor Trades Association seeking feedback on the proposal.

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Speaker 1: Who are you keen to hear from?

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Speaker 2: Look anyone? Really, I think the government is open to

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Speaker 2: proposals from business, from individuals, obviously from industry bodies like ourselves.

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Speaker 2: I think they're in the final round now. So if

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Speaker 2: you can certainly look on the Federal government site. I

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Speaker 2: think the paper is called if I quickly have a

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Speaker 2: look at it, Sorry about that, that's all right. It's

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Speaker 2: their fuel efficiency what is it actually called? Fuel efficiency? Cleaner,

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Speaker 2: cheaper to run cars, the Australian New Vehicle Efficiency standards.

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Speaker 2: So I think the best thing is we will get

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Speaker 2: on there and we talk about our situation so that

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Speaker 2: we have a three to six deview and then hopefully

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Speaker 2: we all get together. And you know, because Australia is

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Speaker 2: a country that relies on our cars, and you're exactly right,

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Speaker 2: whether it's nord Church of South Australia, we toe, we

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Speaker 2: go to the beach, we travel long distances and it's

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Speaker 2: important and that's our lifestyle. Yeh, spot on.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I suppose like I always think of

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Speaker 1: it from that real Northern territory perspective, given the fact

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Speaker 1: you know that that's where I am. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you think about how emotion it can be in some

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Speaker 1: parts of the territory and if you can't find somewhere

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Speaker 1: to charge your car. It's going to be difficult.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's certainly right, and I think you know what

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Speaker 2: we also saw overnight, I think is the fuel excise

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Speaker 2: went up another one point eight percent or so. So

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Speaker 2: fuel is getting more expensive, but you know, electricity is

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Speaker 2: not that cheap either. So yeah, there's a lot to

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Speaker 2: play out over the next few months and a few years.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, Yeah, you are spot on. Well, wonderful to speak

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Speaker 1: to you this morning, Darryl. I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Coatie and they have a great day you too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.