Speaker 1: Dad, Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: Flex and Frooms, This is the Flex and Froomes catch
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Speaker 3: In the heart of the city where the lights shine bright.
Speaker 3: Flex and Frooms leaving dreams every night two years on
Speaker 3: the airwaves, A Journey's So Sweet and the word redactive
Speaker 3: Toyota cars on repeat. Flex and Frooms, The queens of
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Speaker 3: forest where dark shadows roam, two gremlins are dancing finding
Speaker 3: new homes. The price has gone up, the curtains come down.
Speaker 3: We sure will be sad that you're not around. Flex
Speaker 3: and Frooms, The queens of the Air, spreading joy, love
Speaker 3: and read it to those everywhere, Flex and Frooms. What
Speaker 3: a time would to ride? Big Boss Energy?
Speaker 4: Flex and Frooms on KIDA, our last live show ever
Speaker 4: technically at Always Live. What is happening over there in
Speaker 4: the corner? It pains us to know that the attention
Speaker 4: has been misdirected to someone yonder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are they getting away? Freebies? Oh, that'll do it? Freebies?
Speaker 2: Okay, great to know you've just decided to do freebies.
Speaker 2: Just as we start talking, I see what.
Speaker 1: Your allegiances lie. It's clearer than ever, guys.
Speaker 2: It's so excited to be here in none other than
Speaker 2: sunny Melbourne. I always say it ron whenever I come
Speaker 2: to Melbourne, the sun comes out, and do with that
Speaker 2: what you will.
Speaker 4: I can't handle Melbourne in the weather. As we all know,
Speaker 4: I've recently moved. I've assimilated quite quickly, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: And one thing that's getting me down is I made
Speaker 4: sure to purchase six jackets so I would be well
Speaker 4: equipped with the weather, and I've had to use them
Speaker 4: a total of maybe five times. It's not good enough,
Speaker 4: Sunny Melbourne. Something's off about it.
Speaker 1: It's not right, is it.
Speaker 2: Well, guys, I'm very excited to be here. Thanks everyone
Speaker 2: who's come out. I'm looking at all of you individually,
Speaker 2: probably in the eye. I hope that doesn't make you
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable. I just want to start by doing a
Speaker 2: very specific shout out to Jacob Stein in the audience.
Speaker 1: Jacob Steen.
Speaker 2: So, my one favorite listener is a person called Jacob Stein.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that he listens to all the episodes
Speaker 2: and he always comments on the videos and he always
Speaker 2: replies to my story. So everybody, Jacob Sen, I'm giving
Speaker 2: him around.
Speaker 1: Applause, Please join me, please join me. That's him out
Speaker 1: there if we're doing shout outs.
Speaker 4: My favorite person in the audience is Tim and Nut,
Speaker 4: not part of the crowd of freebies. One thing about
Speaker 4: Tim and and I. We met on a plane. Yes,
Speaker 4: very few can say that they've had any positive plane interactions,
Speaker 4: any intentional plane interactions. But our flight was actually delayed,
Speaker 4: so we sat on the plane for about an hour
Speaker 4: and a half. Then we disembarked, sat together for another
Speaker 4: hour and a half and then got on separate planes.
Speaker 1: It was romantic and poignant. We are well.
Speaker 2: I have a good emotion emotion feeling right now, and
Speaker 2: that is it. I'm going to give everyone my Melbourne
Speaker 2: tour guide. I want to give my vibe of what
Speaker 2: I would do if you just came to Melbourne. Tell me, guys,
Speaker 2: if you agree with this, I'm going to give you
Speaker 2: two alternate paths. One is for basic pitches and the
Speaker 2: other one is for art home. I wrote this on
Speaker 2: a piece of paper. This is my Melbourne weekend guide. Okay,
Speaker 2: get a plane. I choose Virgin personally. If that is possible,
Speaker 2: then you get in an uber. Get an uber from
Speaker 2: the Melbourne airport because guys, the other day I got
Speaker 2: a taxi. Tell me why it cost one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty dollars. Okay, they're ramping up the prices. If you
Speaker 2: are a basic bitch, it means south side. I recommend
Speaker 2: you go and stay in Ellwood and when you're in Elwood,
Speaker 2: go to Comby for a seventeen dollar juice. Then go
Speaker 2: down to Saint.
Speaker 1: Kilda go on the boardwalk.
Speaker 2: I see just going on the in Lunar Park on
Speaker 2: the Scenic Grailway at the least one hundred years old.
Speaker 1: To confirm this is my itinerary for basic redacted? Got it?
Speaker 2: Okay, Then you're gonna want to take a bike and
Speaker 2: ride to South Melbourne Market. At the market, you will
Speaker 2: just trop down to Hector's Deli and get yourself a sandwich,
Speaker 2: the roast beef sandwich. Then you're gonna go to the
Speaker 2: markets and pick up some fresh oysters as well as
Speaker 2: a wine from Coventry Street. Go back to your place
Speaker 2: in Ellwood and watch the sun set.
Speaker 1: Any questions not yet? Thank you? Okay.
Speaker 2: Then you're gonna have pre isn't Saint Kilda on Ackland Street?
Speaker 2: Anywhere you want to go, there's a dog bar on
Speaker 2: Ackland Street. Just google it a dog bar. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: you can bring your dogs. Oh, Saint Kilda was very
Speaker 2: cool once once upon a time. Okay, then you're gonna
Speaker 2: want to go to one six 's one. So that
Speaker 2: is my guide for basic reductance.
Speaker 1: Can we get a guide for people who live here? Ooh,
Speaker 1: just off the top?
Speaker 4: Okay, if you were spending a lot of time here,
Speaker 4: what would be on your checklist?
Speaker 2: I would suggest this to anyone who lives here. This
Speaker 2: is what I do every time I come back. This
Speaker 2: is for the art host. Okay, go to Collingwood. Stay
Speaker 2: in Collingwood, preferably on Smith Street or Fitzroy. If you
Speaker 2: must alimentary for coffee, Alimentary for coffee as well as
Speaker 2: a salad, then you got to Hector's Deli in Fitzroy.
Speaker 2: Anyone here, yeah, look, so someone might work at Alimentary
Speaker 2: out there. Then you're gonna go to Hope Street for
Speaker 2: some sunset drinks.
Speaker 4: I believe, as we do know someone did try and
Speaker 4: fight me at Hope Street. So I'm like funny about
Speaker 4: that recommendation now, But food is fantastic. Usually the clientele
Speaker 4: is amazing, But be careful because there's something about etiquette
Speaker 4: when lining up for a bar that's also a walkway
Speaker 4: that gets girl is riled up.
Speaker 2: I have a few drinks there then, though I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have dinner there. I'm gonna have dinner at the kebab
Speaker 2: shop on Smith Street. You'll know the one that's on
Speaker 2: the corner. Then we're going to Yayas for a dance
Speaker 2: or circuit.
Speaker 4: One might say this is a very generic list for me?
Speaker 4: Is it feeling very generic? Isn't what's sorry?
Speaker 1: Where eighteen year olds going and there's something to go?
Speaker 2: Because okay, I believe that there's something that's sorely missing,
Speaker 2: especially in Sydney, is a place to dance with good music.
Speaker 2: Ya Yas and circuit. The music is popping off. We've
Speaker 2: got Carli Minogue, We've got all.
Speaker 1: The classic hits.
Speaker 4: I just feel like you've prefaced this by saying it's
Speaker 4: an art hole list, and so I think one of
Speaker 4: the fundamental metrics of creating a list for art hose
Speaker 4: is that it be anything but generic. It would be
Speaker 4: I wouldn't consider it's not the word I'd use it'd
Speaker 4: be niche, maybe alternative, if you'd be revealing something fresh.
Speaker 1: See but no.
Speaker 2: I think the beauty of the art home in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty twenty four financial year is that we're
Speaker 2: going back to basics. We're going back to generic. We're
Speaker 2: not trying to anything start anything new. But where we
Speaker 2: where we know is good.
Speaker 4: You're right to your point. I have been on a
Speaker 4: night out with you. We've done the exact same thing.
Speaker 4: We went. We went to Hope Street, we went to
Speaker 4: the kebab shop. You said, let's go to Alimentary. We
Speaker 4: actually did anything. You are consistent.
Speaker 2: It is what it is. Listen, that's my Melbourne Guide. Please,
Speaker 2: if you end up doing the Melbourne Guide, message me.
Speaker 1: It's I assure you. It's been done by everybody who
Speaker 1: lives here. I assure you. Okay, okay, Mickey, or what
Speaker 1: time is it?
Speaker 3: Hello?
Speaker 4: Love line Love Line, it's where we professional opinion have
Speaker 4: as who are very mindful that it's more interesting to
Speaker 4: I don't know, talk about everyone else's issues but our own.
Speaker 4: We request love dilemmas. This could be familiar love, romance, love,
Speaker 4: anything in between. And they are always good. They are
Speaker 4: always painful to listen to in the best way possible,
Speaker 4: and they show us one thing and one thing only
Speaker 4: to be humanist, to what.
Speaker 1: To suffer, to suffer, babes, I'm obsessed with you. Anyway,
Speaker 1: listen to this.
Speaker 4: I listen to DM Dust and said, hey, friends, this
Speaker 4: might be a bit long, but it's on my mind
Speaker 4: and I'm desperate.
Speaker 1: To see what you both think.
Speaker 4: If we could get a microphone outside, maybe one of
Speaker 4: our faves could give some advice.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. I would love
Speaker 1: that anyway.
Speaker 4: This person also says, sorry, if this is way too
Speaker 4: sappy and romantic, prepare to get the feelies. I met
Speaker 4: my boyfriend last winter in a very very cute way.
Speaker 4: We were at a festival, camping next to each other,
Speaker 4: and he helped me where my tent pole broke. He
Speaker 4: had duct tape, and the rest is history. We do
Speaker 4: love helpful men. It's just been smooth sailing the entire time.
Speaker 4: I got out of an emotionally abusive relationship about a
Speaker 4: year before I met my boyfriend, so I was very
Speaker 4: nervous to start any kind of a relationship. He is
Speaker 4: so entirely different from anyone I've ever been with. We're
Speaker 4: both pretty introverted, and it's just wonderful to easily communicate
Speaker 4: when we both need time alone without worry. We can
Speaker 4: spend quiet time together in peace. And I've had so
Speaker 4: many anxieties about truly everything when I started this relationship,
Speaker 4: and he has not triggered any of them, not one.
Speaker 4: I trust him. I sleep easy at night. We have
Speaker 4: a single worry about who I'm giving my trust and
Speaker 4: my heart to.
Speaker 1: This sounds very good.
Speaker 2: I think, I say this sounds made up, which Oh honestly,
Speaker 2: you're seeing as I was.
Speaker 1: Feeling some tea.
Speaker 2: I must admit some of them that I bring to
Speaker 2: the table are definitely off the dome.
Speaker 1: Stop. I've never lied on it. Really, Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: know we could.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think this is the first time I've been
Speaker 4: in a relationship with someone who just genuinely wants to
Speaker 4: spend time with me and enjoys it. Then what is
Speaker 4: the issue. We've been together about ten months and I'm
Speaker 4: really in love with him.
Speaker 1: He is home.
Speaker 4: Okay, now it's sounding codependent, but I just cannot work
Speaker 4: up the lady balls.
Speaker 1: Okay, I knew, I knew.
Speaker 4: This was gonna get I knew it okay to tell
Speaker 4: him I love him? Oh hod on, So let's just recap.
Speaker 4: You've been together for ten months. You met at a festival.
Speaker 4: It was you know, him helping you. The rest is history.
Speaker 4: You feel so safe with him, your anxieties aren't triggered.
Speaker 4: It's been ten months. You can't say you love him,
Speaker 4: mostly because things have been so smooth that you're afraid
Speaker 4: to mess them up. This person also says that her
Speaker 4: boyfriend is a fairly reserved man and it takes some
Speaker 4: time and coaxing to get him to share his feelings,
Speaker 4: and that she's the same way and this isn't a problem.
Speaker 4: He hasn't said he loves me either. I do feel
Speaker 4: like he shows me it all the time, and all
Speaker 4: my friends who know us have told me to just
Speaker 4: say it, and that he feels the same. So Miss
Speaker 4: Flex and miss Frooms actually let me let me double check,
Speaker 4: it says Miss Flex and Miss Frooms, having duraida, How
Speaker 4: do I get the courage to tell this wonderful man
Speaker 4: how I feel?
Speaker 1: I'm scared? Welp oh, I love.
Speaker 2: This to pieces. Listen, I think we have Sophie out
Speaker 2: there with a mic.
Speaker 1: Actually, does anyone happen if you off the dome, but a
Speaker 1: strong opinion off the dome.
Speaker 2: Strong opinion, how do we goman?
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, from a man, sir, what's your name?
Speaker 5: Josh?
Speaker 1: Josh, what's your opinion?
Speaker 5: If he's more reserved than you, just wait till he
Speaker 5: opens up first, because if he's incredibly reserved coming out
Speaker 5: and saying I love you can be very full on
Speaker 5: or be okay. If he doesn't reciprocate those feelings, then
Speaker 5: tell him straight up. Doesn't matter, Josh.
Speaker 4: That is fantastic advice. And before I count to that,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's on a debate. I just want to respond,
Speaker 4: is there anyone else who has great advice? Because it'll
Speaker 4: be hard.
Speaker 2: To follow Jacob Jacob in the freemy corner, I'd probably
Speaker 2: say to her that she could try leading by example.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what does it really change? It doesn't
Speaker 1: really change the reality of their relationship. Huge.
Speaker 4: This would be the first time in a live setting
Speaker 4: that we can go to hear everybody who listens to
Speaker 4: us so diligently.
Speaker 1: I'm open, Yeah, what was your name? My name's Car.
Speaker 6: What I'm sensing is it doesn't sound like she wants
Speaker 6: to say it first, and I think that's problematic because
Speaker 6: it's leaning into, you.
Speaker 1: Know, male power.
Speaker 6: And I think that she should say at first, if
Speaker 6: that's what she feels, and she shouldn't worry about what
Speaker 6: he has to say. And if she feels like she's
Speaker 6: being shown it that it can be enough. But don't
Speaker 6: act based on what you want him to do. Do
Speaker 6: what you want to do.
Speaker 1: That's real. Yeah, clap for that, Clap for that, Clap
Speaker 1: for everyone, because that was phenomenal. I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: You know, that last censor definitely cuts through my He's
Speaker 2: just not that into your face. So I did go
Speaker 2: through about three months ago that was quiet.
Speaker 1: And phase for anyone who might not know what happened.
Speaker 2: I went through a situation where someone's giving me mixed
Speaker 2: messages for an extended period of time, and I decided
Speaker 2: that I would try and play some mind games and
Speaker 2: they kind of didn't work. So I listened to the
Speaker 2: audio book, I watched the movie.
Speaker 4: But you tried to play mind games based on what
Speaker 4: you had learned, and he's not that into you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they didn't work.
Speaker 2: Well, they kind of worked, but he wasn't the right
Speaker 2: person anyway. So I have actually been in this situation
Speaker 2: where I've been at an impast with someone waiting for
Speaker 2: them to say I love you.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the relationship.
Speaker 2: I would have been like seven months in, so I
Speaker 2: feel you like this is tenure.
Speaker 1: It's long, say gardening leave.
Speaker 2: After that situation, I wish that I was grown enough
Speaker 2: to have said it first, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I think I was nineteen at the time that this happened,
Speaker 2: and I was very much in the thing of like
Speaker 2: he should do it. So I think I waited, but
Speaker 2: there was a bit of coaxing. There's a bit of
Speaker 2: alcohol involved, and there was a bit of a I
Speaker 2: think we were sitting down, like in the hallway of
Speaker 2: his house, on the floor, and you know, when you
Speaker 2: just look at someone, I'm like, you've got something to say,
Speaker 2: Say it?
Speaker 1: Now, say it?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 6: Say it?
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 4: I feel like all of us have a lot of
Speaker 4: work to do with unlearning codependency. This is the thing
Speaker 4: that you do where you orient your behavior based on
Speaker 4: how you want someone else to respond, Which means that
Speaker 4: in an environment where you're claiming that everything is perfect
Speaker 4: but you can't do this one thing, it's telling you
Speaker 4: that things aren't actually perfect. And if the trajectory of
Speaker 4: your relationship is always going to be hinged on, well
Speaker 4: he's got to do it first, then you're gonna end
Speaker 4: up in a lot of environments where the relationship doesn't
Speaker 4: progress like you want it to because you're constantly waiting,
Speaker 4: and you're waiting and you're not being communicative, which means
Speaker 4: that you are actually kind of waiting in vain. For example,
Speaker 4: if I go to this cafe across the way there
Speaker 4: knowing that I want to order something, but I just
Speaker 4: stand there and wait until somebody acknowledges me, I might
Speaker 4: not get acknowledged. The service is actually quite good, so
Speaker 4: you will get acknowledged very quickly. However, imagine if it
Speaker 4: wasn't how long would you wait for you, like, I
Speaker 4: just have to go say something?
Speaker 1: How long do you wait?
Speaker 4: And in this instance, I really feel like the question
Speaker 4: is there No, there's no right thing to do, It's
Speaker 4: just a matter of what Josh was saying earlier. Are
Speaker 4: you prepared to not get an answer that you want
Speaker 4: and then act accordingly? You know, if you say I
Speaker 4: love you and then the person doesn't respond, will you
Speaker 4: stay in a dynamic where you don't feel like you're growing.
Speaker 1: At the same pace. Will you bounce? Mmmm, that's real.
Speaker 2: I guess you're you're kind of waiting on the It's
Speaker 2: the d day, So do you really want to pull
Speaker 2: the true?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost.
Speaker 4: We talked about this concept of relationships having expiry dates.
Speaker 4: When you delay the inevitable, you make it harder for yourself. Yeah, true,
Speaker 4: get out now, Everyone live a little, because one day
Speaker 4: the ground might open up as well as whole and
Speaker 4: you're gonna be here being like I should have said it.
Speaker 1: I should have said it.
Speaker 4: So let's wrap up and say, in the great words
Speaker 4: of Kara, don't be the person who waits to act
Speaker 4: based on what somebody else is doing, because you will
Speaker 4: wait your whole life and unfortunately, nobody's coming to save
Speaker 4: you dead. That Marvel propaganda, Okay, there is no superhero.
Speaker 4: No one's coming to save you. Tell everyone you love them,
Speaker 4: starting today, I.
Speaker 1: Love you, I love you.
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