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Speaker 1: Well as part of the Northern Territory Defense Veterans Strategy.

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Speaker 1: The Northern Territory government's announced Operation Thrive. It's a multifaceted

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Speaker 1: action plan focused on enhancing support for veterans and their families.

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Speaker 2: Now joining me in the studio to tell us.

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Speaker 1: More about it is Brent Potter, the Minister for Veterans

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Speaker 1: Affairs and also the Minister for Police, Fire and Emergency Services.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to.

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Speaker 3: Your minister, Morning Katie, Morning listeners.

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Speaker 2: Now, firstly, why was this plan devised?

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Speaker 3: So it comes out of the Northern Territory Veterans Strategy,

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Speaker 3: the first one we released earlier in the year, and

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Speaker 3: it's basically how we operationalize or deliver on our objectives

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Speaker 3: of the strategy. So Thrive has a bunch of pillars

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Speaker 3: in it. This being the first the GP training for

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Speaker 3: the thirty two general practitioners. And as I said yesterday,

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Speaker 3: there's about four ex army doctors that are in Darwin

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Speaker 3: and they seem to get everyone going to them because

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Speaker 3: they understand us and we're a finicky bunch.

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Speaker 4: We don't like to go the doctor at the best

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Speaker 3: When we do go, we want to go to someone

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Speaker 3: we trust, so it's about getting more doctors available so

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Speaker 3: that we can see them and spread the loan.

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Speaker 1: And so it means that they're going to get that

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Speaker 1: the issues that they may or may not have correct.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how far will that go?

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Speaker 1: I suppose do you think that it's going to entice

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Speaker 1: everybody to get in there and go and see the GP.

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Speaker 4: Time will tell. I mean.

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Speaker 3: One of the complexities is around the DBA claims process.

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Speaker 3: And so just as a very small example, if you

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Speaker 3: go see a GP and they're not familiar with the

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Speaker 3: process and they put in the paperwork for a particular claim,

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Speaker 3: it is denied because you haven't met the proofs. Makes

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Speaker 3: it very difficult later to go back and get it.

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Speaker 3: So you may have mental health you haven't been approved

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Speaker 3: because you didn't meet the proofs. You've then got a

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Speaker 1: Well, we do have a large contingent of defense families

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Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory, so it sounds as so it's needed.

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Speaker 3: It's about ten thousand. I mean the on base health

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Speaker 3: person on baseball when you transition, but when you leave

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Speaker 2: So how quickly is this going to kick off?

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Speaker 3: Starts that day, so the training of fratuitously on Remembrance Day,

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Speaker 3: so they're doing it at the same time.

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Speaker 4: So we'll so I were head.

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Speaker 3: There after lunch and catch up with the trainees or

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Speaker 3: the trainees the doctors, but the guys going through the course,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, to roll that straight away.

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Speaker 1: Now just on Remembrance Day. There's quite a bit planned

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Speaker 3: What's on your standard centotaphs at at Palmerston, the City

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Speaker 2: Well, we are going to try and catch up with

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Speaker 1: I think we're in the process of organizing that for

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Speaker 2: But look, this does sound like a good program.

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Speaker 1: I think if we are able to get more gps

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Speaker 1: Then I hope that that's a step in the right direction,

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Speaker 4: And it's lived.

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Speaker 3: Experience from my perspective, so being a veteran, I get

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Speaker 3: it probably more than most. There's more to come, though,

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Speaker 3: so Operation Thrive won't just be GP services. There's a

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Speaker 3: bunch of pillars, education, lifestyle, support and legacy. So we'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be working through that now, Brent.

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Speaker 2: I believe on last count over the last three nights,

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Speaker 1: Those cars, from what Nathan Finn, the Police Association president

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Speaker 3: so nine but police then Viper. I've done a fantastic job.

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Speaker 4: The ages? I'm happy to come back to you.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of you know, making sure that we're

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Speaker 1: What plans are underway from your.

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Speaker 3: Perspective, purely can't be a policing responsibility. And that's sort

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Speaker 3: be an increased policing presence, absolutely, and we'll have more

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Speaker 1: What do you think of his comments about these thirty

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Speaker 3: And that's what I saw on the weekend that it

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Speaker 2: Now you've touched on the fact that you were with

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Speaker 1: We'd spoken to the Police Association yesterday Nathan Finn, and

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Speaker 1: he had said that you'd been out on that ride along.

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Speaker 2: Where did you go and what did you experience?

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Speaker 3: I've done three thus fin I'll do something else. We

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Speaker 3: Although Monday was quieter in Palmerston. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Well, So what exactly did really open your eyes because

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking that there's probably plenty more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it was you had. We had people just

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Speaker 3: That was a big concern for me because if you've

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Speaker 1: Now any like upon those those sort of drive a

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Speaker 2: Help them to make their jobs easier and more streamlined.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think there's some stuff we can look at.

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Speaker 4: Give them a lunch break, go to more jobs.

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Speaker 3: As an example, taking someone into custody, they may need

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Speaker 1: So you've literally got a situation where you've got police officers,

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Speaker 3: So you know, those are things we're going to look

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Speaker 2: Well, because it does just seem like a waste of

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Speaker 3: I think that police and somes have to attend the job.

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Speaker 1: Now you and I again have spoken quite a bit

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Speaker 3: They we've got an alcohol policing operation ongoing at the moment,

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Speaker 2: So we have not seen things like that for quite

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Speaker 1: You know, it does seem as though the police resources

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Speaker 3: We're still doing RBTs. You've got the Road Policing Unit

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Speaker 3: let's do some random breath testing. It's those little pieces

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Speaker 1: Now, alcohol legislation, it is going to be brought to

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Speaker 3: I think Nathan said it on the radio yesterday. It

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Speaker 4: And what we can do around that.

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Speaker 3: Nathan will absolutely be involved with the NTPA, will absolutely

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Speaker 4: So we'll see where that lands. But that is obviously

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting though, that you know in that that

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Speaker 3: Seen your parents live in my electure and said I

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't something that was foreign to me.

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Speaker 4: For the territories.

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Speaker 1: Now, look, before I let you go the daily region,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been going through some some difficult times. Daily

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Speaker 3: Where are things at so the moment I've been told

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Speaker 3: There's ten offenders they identified, So you've got five adults,

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Speaker 4: And we saw a bunch of houses destroyed in that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've got different members of the community sort

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Speaker 1: All right, Brent, before we let you go this morning, mate,

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Speaker 1: one of our listeners has nicknamed you the Flash. Are

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'll take the Flash any day because I would

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Speaker 4: So we'll keep the Flash.

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Speaker 3: But I can tell you I wasn't fast enough at

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Speaker 3: so that'd be fit they were fit and your criminal

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Speaker 2: Them, so that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Well Brent Potter, the Minister for Veterans Affairs, Police, Fire

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Speaker 2: To catch up with you this morning. Thank you, Jo.

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Speaker 4: Thanks