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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Jonesy no matter arms for the pub test today, the

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Speaker 2: grandma rule? Does it passed the pub test. This comes

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Speaker 2: from something Anthony Bourdain said.

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Speaker 3: He said this in twenty eleven at Sydney Writers' Festival.

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Speaker 3: He said that he's eaten so many exotic things, cobra harts, sheep, testicles, warthogs.

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Speaker 3: As you said earlier, we've all had a sd GO roll.

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Speaker 3: But he puts it down to the grandma rule. He said,

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Speaker 3: I do something called the grandma rule. If I'm at

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Speaker 3: grandma's house, I'll eat what Grandma offers. I'll say, yes, grammar,

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Speaker 3: it's delicious, I'll have seconds. It's interesting because in many

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Speaker 3: modern households, kids I don't like that, don't want that,

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Speaker 3: and we cater to them, whereas when we grew up

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Speaker 3: you ate everything on your plate. You did, and maybe

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Speaker 3: we are creating fussy eaters. On the other hand, you

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Speaker 3: don't want to create tension around the table where kids

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Speaker 3: sit there. They dislike something and they're forced to eat it,

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Speaker 3: and it creates an environment around food that isn't healthy.

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Speaker 2: And you come to like my nana, for example, my

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Speaker 2: late nana when she made gravy she used to put

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Speaker 2: vinegar in it?

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Speaker 3: Was it nice?

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Speaker 1: Dreadful?

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Speaker 2: It was so bad, and we'd all eat it.

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Speaker 3: This is you'd all eat it.

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Speaker 2: You'd eat it, but then after a while you developed

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Speaker 2: a taste for it, so you became conditioned to have

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Speaker 2: vinegar gravy. I must admit I tried it recently. It's

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Speaker 2: still dreadful.

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Speaker 3: She's dead and you were polite and you ate what

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Speaker 3: was in front of you exactly. But are we is

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Speaker 3: it easier? Is it more? You know, we're listening to

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Speaker 3: children more about what that and not just children adults

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Speaker 3: about what they will and won't eat. Are we creating

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Speaker 3: a rod for our own way to go?

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Speaker 2: Let's ask you my ride you do you aaty? Sorry

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Speaker 2: mate for bothering you. Do you eat everything that's on

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Speaker 2: your plate?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Of course, don't you? What sort of what do you mean? Well,

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Speaker 3: my dad he will give me like a salad with

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Speaker 3: like cheese on it, and I don't really like cheese.

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Speaker 3: So will you not eat the whole salad because of it?

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Speaker 1: I don't eat the salad? Right?

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Speaker 2: Isn't your dad trying to poison you through food?

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Speaker 3: He did give me food poisoning, but.

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Speaker 2: It was like about three times in a row.

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Speaker 3: I think you're going for Munchausen's by proxies.

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Speaker 2: It's like in the sixth sense, you know, trying.

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Speaker 3: Toilers in the little kid or Grandma ruled as a

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Speaker 3: past the pub test, of course, the past the pup test.

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I was crying in my.

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Speaker 3: Two hours and I still had to eat it.

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Speaker 4: And if I didn't eat it, then I'd be getting

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Speaker 4: set to bed. Now.

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Speaker 1: If I do that now to my kids, there's elder

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Speaker 1: play in this household, I'll be living somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't make them eat all their food. It's

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Speaker 4: only setting them up for an eating disorder or a

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Speaker 4: weight problems later on. If they've eaten enough. They need

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Speaker 4: to recognize when they've eaten enough and then cease they're eating.

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Speaker 4: That's how overeating starts.

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Speaker 1: I think so my kids doing that. Thirties. I daught it.

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Speaker 1: My youngest friend would eat anything. Anything I put on

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Speaker 1: a table, she'd eat it. My eldest daughter was so

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Speaker 1: picky it was unbelievable. I used to just tell her

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Speaker 1: everything with so good kin, put some sauce on it

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Speaker 1: and go eat chicken dulling, and she'd eat it. She

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Speaker 1: had no idea. She was about thirteen or fourteen before

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Speaker 1: she realized I was sinking up. She's a picky eat

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Speaker 1: it today. I don't care Now I could us a

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Speaker 1: husband problems exactly.

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Speaker 2: There you go,