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Speaker 2: Hi gave good morning Katy, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Mate. It seems like a great announcement. How is it

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Speaker 2: And Katie? Let's let's just talk about the deal itself.

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Speaker 2: Hugely welcome in a massive shot in there for thee

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the devil is always in the detail, isn't it, Gav.

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Speaker 2: It is, and the fact that the matter is while

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Speaker 2: But what it does it responds to requests from the community.

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Speaker 1: And gavin to the families of those kids. Are they

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Speaker 2: They are saying to me? I have students, family members, parents,

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Speaker 2: So this conversation changes when they're our age, Katie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the thing, you know, something absolutely

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Speaker 2: Exactly. These children are living the living fans are would

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Speaker 2: not be tolerated anywhere else in Australia. When we need

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Speaker 2: to have high expectations, you cannot normalize what's going on

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Speaker 2: in Central Australia at the moment. We need to have

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Speaker 2: high expectations about program delivery, making sure that we keep

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Speaker 2: everyone accountable in terms of federal ministers and care all

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Speaker 2: the way through to family members in town camp, because

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's the child. It's

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Speaker 2: the kid that matters, and if we get that wrong,

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Speaker 2: we've got a generation of absolute chaos coming in front

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Speaker 2: of us. Yeah, if you get it right, we can

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Speaker 2: start changing the conversation to a positive one.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Morris, the principle of you being your school I

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Speaker 1: always appreciate your time. Mate. We'll talk to you again

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Speaker 1: soon once we get a bit further detail detail on

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Speaker 1: this funding.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Katie, Thank you you too, mate,