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Speaker 1: Powered by the radio app from ninety six air VM

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Speaker 1: to where you're listening today.

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Speaker 2: This is Clezy and Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the podcast today, we chat to the

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Speaker 3: lovely Lincoln Unus about season two of The Last King

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Speaker 3: of the.

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Speaker 4: Cross Now continuing a history of sound special cassettes and

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Speaker 4: already calls about your cassette experiences.

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Speaker 3: We delved into Clarsey's Tragic Music Box. He took us

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Speaker 3: back to the year nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 4: We caught up with Missy Higgins, soon to be inducted

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Speaker 4: in the Aria Hall of Fame. And on the Shore Report,

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Speaker 4: Lisa talked about the top ten Disney Villains rank by variety.

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Speaker 3: Season two of Last King of the Cross debuted on

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Speaker 3: Paramount last week. We got the first couple of episodes

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Speaker 3: and then they're coming out weekly. Of course, Lincoln Unis

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Speaker 3: is back in the role of John Ibrahan. This is

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Speaker 3: based on the autobiography of John Ibrahim. Hello Lincoln, Hey guys,

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Speaker 3: how are you very well?

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Speaker 2: So season two?

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Speaker 3: I loved season one, and so of course I devoured

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Speaker 3: the first two episodes of season two.

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Speaker 2: I did I totally did. I make no apology.

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Speaker 3: It starts eighteen months after the end of season one,

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Speaker 3: Sam's locked up Sam Ibrahim, John's lying low overseas, probably

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Speaker 3: not even realizing he's doing a WRECKI in Obiita, and

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Speaker 3: he returns and discovers that King's Cross is not what

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Speaker 2: We're right so far up.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, no, you're right, you're right so far. I

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Speaker 3: So he looks towards Oxford Street. So does this really

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Speaker 3: closely follow the story of John Ibrahim.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, it's inspired by his memoir. You know, there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of fictional kind of drama with it in

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Speaker 5: terms of timing, and we had a bit of license

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Speaker 5: characters and things like that. But yeah, it follows fairly closely.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Crosstig kind of lose its appeal and

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Speaker 5: it's at Shine, and then Oxford Street took over and

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Speaker 5: John kind of moved there and kind of had to

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Speaker 5: start from zero because all you know, he'd learned how

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Speaker 5: to play the game in the Cross and recreate it.

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Speaker 5: But it's a whole new it's a whole new landscape

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Speaker 5: hopefully quite interesting to watch.

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Speaker 2: I expected to be.

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Speaker 4: I mean sometimes in the shows, like you said, a

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Speaker 4: that didn't actually exist, or a compilation of various real people.

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Speaker 4: Can you tell us a bit about the new characters

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's some second season gives you the kind

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Speaker 6: And more interesting or dynamic antagonist.

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Speaker 7: So that's what we've got this season.

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Speaker 5: We've got this wonderful actor in the v and Andrews

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Speaker 5: to become John, sometimes through violent means, sometimes through kind

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Speaker 5: Get a lot of different social structures and a lot

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Speaker 5: it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: To play with there.

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Speaker 3: I mean there are some violent means on occasion, and

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Speaker 5: But yeah, what makes this slightly more difficult for me

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Speaker 4: So it was a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Fun, you know, at the at the risk of sounding

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Speaker 3: like a complete dork. One of my favorite you could

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Speaker 2: Are you? And I've only seen a little.

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Speaker 5: Same house, And I don't worry. I was a bit

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not enough, I'll see.

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Speaker 10: It was insane keep saving. I mean, it's quite expensive.

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Speaker 4: Are you a are you a log's kind of guy?

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Speaker 5: Look, you know, it's part of the job. But what

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Speaker 5: the community I'm in, and it's really nice to run

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Speaker 3: One more quick question, if we may, we love to

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Speaker 3: say that you got the role.

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Speaker 2: Of John.

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Speaker 6: That's a good question. I mean, look, I was.

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Speaker 5: And there was contact made on both sides about you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I go and sit somewhere outside that because it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you do you like do you go down

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Speaker 3: Well, Lincoln, I do sometimes question myself as to whether

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Speaker 2: Do with shows like this, But I do.

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Speaker 3: I love your character, I love your portrayal of Johnny Brahim.

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Speaker 3: It's fantastic and season two. Season one's there. Of course,

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Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you, but look forward to seeing you in

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Speaker 4: a rock pool starring at Dolphin smelling like d Organ.

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Speaker 3: So oh yeah, thank you, Lincoln, Bye.

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Speaker 2: More More Lisa More podcast soon.

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Speaker 1: Delving deep into the archives of birth music history, Clezies,

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Speaker 1: Tragic Music Box.

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Speaker 4: Are you ready to go?

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Speaker 4: Okay, back to nineteen eighty is we mentioned earlier, Lisa,

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Speaker 4: and let's start with TV And of course in nineteen

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Speaker 4: eighty we're still saying everything's in living color because it

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Speaker 4: It is a quiz show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where's Tony Barber? I can Okay, we're going drama.

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Speaker 2: Now, solos, damn this war brace poor.

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Speaker 4: John Lorraine Bailey, isn't she sweet?

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Speaker 4: We're got to wash every episode of that.

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Speaker 4: Without getting to show that just couldn't be made for it.

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Speaker 3: In honor of the Walt Disney Company's one hundredth birthday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well week we are looking at the history of

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Neil Hands from the National Film and Sound

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Speaker 4: Lo Tanil Heydanil welcome, Hi, thanks.

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Speaker 16: Thank you any opportunity to talk about your sound.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, the compact cassette or cassette tape was invented

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Speaker 2: Dutch gave us the compact cassette as it used to be.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely. So, you know, the tape as we know it

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Speaker 4: It became made the music more mobile as well, didn't it.

444
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,959
Speaker 4: You could get out on my dad one night went

445
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 4: and saw Neil Diamond I can't remember. It was subi

446
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 4: Ovall or the Whack and he recorded the whole concert

447
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 4: and the recording was awful because it actually started wearing out,

448
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 4: so the end of the game like crunching on eighty seven.

449
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 4: Yeah you could, yeah, but at least he got he

450
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 4: got a couple of songs. He got a couple at

451
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 4: the start of the gig that sounded all right. I

452
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 4: don't know if he ever played again. But we became

453
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 4: more mobile.

454
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 16: Mobole was the music we definitely, I mean, and especially

455
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 16: when the Walkmen came around in nineteen seventy nine, all

456
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 16: of a sudden you had a player you could take anywhere,

457
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 16: you can listen to it by yourself, and you can

458
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 16: custom make a soundtrack for your own life.

459
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: Well, this is.

460
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: I mean, the Walkman changed my life because I was

461
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 3: able to sit in the backseat of the car on

462
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: a road trip. This is on the days where you

463
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 3: Mum and Dad chose the music and if you didn't

464
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: like it too, I could sit in the back and

465
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: I could listen to David Bowie or whatever while they've

466
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: got Max Bygraves playing on their cassette tape in the car.

467
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: And it was absolut it was freedom, oh call destiny

468
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: pretty much choice, and that's.

469
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Speaker 16: Why it became the leading format from nineteen eighty four

470
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 16: to nineteen eighty two. I mean, the Walkman changed everyone's lives,

471
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 16: but we still had you know, there was so much

472
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,479
Speaker 16: development and a real boom in cassette players. We had

473
00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 16: them in cars from nineteen sixty eight, made it portable

474
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 16: and enjoyable and it was really picked up by surfers,

475
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 16: you know, bringing them out and playing them out the

476
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 16: back of the vans and blasting skyhooks and really did

477
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 16: amazing things for the Australian industry.

478
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, they replaced the smaller cassettes, replacing the old eye

479
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 4: track because a lot of b are the eye tracks

480
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 4: in the curs.

481
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 3: Something else absolutely that was you know, probably it wasn't

482
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: the right thing, but it was life changing. The cassettes

483
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: was coming back from Bali with a suitcase full of

484
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: the dam things. I mean, was this the very first

485
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: example of pirating music?

486
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 16: I don't know if it's the first example because we're

487
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 16: kind of wily, but I would say it definitely was

488
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 16: a big concern for the Australian industry. They estimated that

489
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 16: it was costing them about four hundred and forty point

490
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 16: eight million. That's not including just how easy tapes were

491
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 16: to shop lift compared to an LP.

492
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

493
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: I never gave that a pretty small slip, but I

494
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: did pick a few copies.

495
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you makes make them a mixtape so you don't

496
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: have to buy the album, you know album, No, I

497
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: don't have to.

498
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: Mixtapes were the first dating apps in my opinion, because

499
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 3: we didn't we didn't have social media to flirt.

500
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: I found that the best.

501
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: I think if there was someone you liked, you made

502
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: them a mixtape, really and that was the key to

503
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: their hearts.

504
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: Did you do that?

505
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: Yes, If you.

506
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 16: Didn't make a mixtape for someone you cared about it,

507
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 16: I don't want to know you.

508
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about the revival? I mean It hasn't been

509
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: as huge as as people by going and buying vinyl,

510
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: But there have been some releases on cassettes in recent times,

511
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 4: aren't there.

512
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 16: Absolutely? I think it has a large part to do

513
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 16: with the nostalgia. I think it's cheaper with an LP,

514
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 16: and labels are while they're producing these digital releases, they'll

515
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 16: often come with a limited edition collectibook cassette and that

516
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 16: comes with a digital download with it. You know, the

517
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 16: recent Barbie movie released its soundtrack on Hot Pink Transparent.

518
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that one. First nostalgia too,

519
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: isn't it.

520
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: I do think they were sometimes the least loved of

521
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: all the forms, and yet they were the one probably

522
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: that did for me change so many things. Okay, the

523
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: quality might not have been as good as putting on

524
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: an album at home, but as I said, you know,

525
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: I was on the move with it.

526
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 4: When it got caught in the heads. To take the

527
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 4: cord in the heads in your take rubbish?

528
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: How many how you try to save your favorite. You've

529
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 3: got the pencil, you're trying to wind it on, and

530
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: the moment you get that when you reach that moment

531
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: where you think, no, it's gone, I.

532
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 4: Reckon to it's frustrating. I can hear it in your voice.

533
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 16: Oh absolutely, I mean I've done it myself, getting the

534
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 16: tape and getting it out and winding with the pencil

535
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 16: and getting your own sticky tape and trying to get

536
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 16: it back together.

537
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 18: Yeah.

538
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 16: But do you know what, I don't think CDs fixed

539
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 16: or anything like that. They were just I think they

540
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 16: were more easily scratched and less durable, and more when

541
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 16: listening to them, the skating kind of thing on them.

542
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 16: I think. I think cassettes are hard done by.

543
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were sturdier.

544
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: Well to Neil, thank you for taking us through the

545
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 3: history of the cassette today.

546
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: It's lovely to talk to you. Thank you very much.

547
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: Take care taking your calls and texts on your cassette

548
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: tape memories today as we continue the history of sound

549
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: mark and Palmhira said, such memories of the age of

550
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: cassettes and the skill needed to hit record in time

551
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: to record your favorite song for your mixtape and be

552
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: able to stop recording in time before the DJ starts

553
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 3: talking again. Also, the pencil you need to rewind the

554
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: tape when it was chewed up. That was it was

555
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: an essential tool in my car and there we go.

556
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: Is that the youth of today doesn't know the real

557
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: pain of trying to save precious cassettes from destruction.

558
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: That they don't mark.

559
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: Look the tapes come out.

560
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, do that for demonstration?

561
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: Wanting it back in? I've got the wrong a pencil,

562
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 4: can you.

563
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: I've just feeling of satisfaction when it lays flat, screwed,

564
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: it be gone, and you don't get to the end

565
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 3: and realize that you've done it backwards.

566
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: Sometimes if you've got the tapes a little bit crunkled,

567
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 4: you can hear it a little crunkled. Yeah, when it's

568
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: a little bit crunkled, you can hear it going over

569
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: the heads. When it's playing, it's like we get through

570
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: that rough pet. We're all good. David in the ad ship, Hello, David,

571
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 4: not too crunkled. What do you got for us?

572
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 11: I'm sure we all. Back in the day, I used

573
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 11: to just recording off the TV at one point, trying

574
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 11: to keep everyone quiet in the house. Yeah, and recording away,

575
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 11: recording away, and the brother came into the same room

576
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 11: and they had a quick combo with the mother.

577
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 6: I didn't think anything of it at the time.

578
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 19: I thought cut down two weeks later, I pulled it out,

579
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 19: was grooven away, and believe it or not, the conversation

580
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 19: somehow sinked up perfectly with the gap in the music.

581
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

582
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 4: So you're trying to tape off down.

583
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 11: Well, even today when I hear the song, it's just

584
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 11: it lives rent free in my head.

585
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was early performance art.

586
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: You didn't even know you were recording there, very clever,

587
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: like Andy Warhole.

588
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Thanks David.

589
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: So many memories and the text lines just exploded again

590
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: this morning.

591
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: But it was just holding the cassette tape up to

592
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: the TV.

593
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty sure.

594
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: I did that.

595
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, or you had sometimes you had to plug in

596
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: a microphone and then some of the early ones back

597
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: in the seventies.

598
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: Oh that's fantcy.

599
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: No, I was just holding just holding it up, and

600
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: like hours and hours trying to get the stuff on

601
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: countdown and Gavin would to go and no, top.

602
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: Ten, Oh here we go. Teck Her in several Grimes, says.

603
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: My husband and I made each other mixtapes before we

604
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: even started dating. I think all up, we made fifty

605
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: tapes for each other. Yes, and I expect you would

606
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: regret throwing them out lovely.

607
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a little diary in music. Love the sound of.

608
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: That Katie and Golden Bay.

609
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: This is gold nexted us to say as a young

610
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: and hot headed teenager, I war through and pressed record

611
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: to record dead air over the top of every single

612
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: mixtape owned by an ex boyfriend after a tragic breakup.

613
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that is hilarious.

614
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 4: That's going to make you feel better.

615
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: And that's the card of stuff you would do.

616
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: And I hope you found out good money, Hey on money,

617
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 4: look what you got for us from Cassetteville.

618
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, many many years ago, maybe this was

619
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 20: I'm talking about nineteen ninety two.

620
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

621
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 20: I was also a radio presenter back at home, and

622
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 20: one of the few female radio presenters. Aleasa, I'm sure

623
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 20: you know what the feeling is, right when you have

624
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 20: fans calling you just you know, listening to your voice and.

625
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 6: Thinking, oh wow, that's a cute voice.

626
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 20: I really don't know what's behind that, right right, anyway,

627
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 20: that's okay. And one I walked up to the reception

628
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 20: of my workplace and I have this little mixtape of

629
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 20: all the most amazing love songs. Yeah, and it let's

630
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 20: say it just said to money from a fan and

631
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 20: I'm thinking, okay, So I take it back into the

632
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 20: studio and I play it and it's amazing a bunch

633
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 20: of music. And then later on my show, I get

634
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 20: a call from into the studio talking to me, you know,

635
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 20: one of them, and then he says, oh, did you

636
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 20: get my gift? And I'm thinking, oh, my gosh, O

637
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 20: get this man who I don't even know what he

638
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 20: looks like. He sent me this amazing tape of songs,

639
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 20: which I held on to for so many years because

640
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 20: you know, whenever a young present, it was absolutely amazing

641
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 20: to get something like that.

642
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty Yeah.

643
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: So this was way back in nineteen ninety two.

644
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 20: I think mixed taps were like a.

645
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 2: Thing, and I thought the story was going to end

646
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: with and then we got married.

647
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: I had a very very steady boyfriend by that time.

648
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: I guess, thanks Money, Money, that's a hell of a

649
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: voice you've got there.

650
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 21: Oh, thank you, Thanks Money.

651
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: So and remember getting their cassettes from Katel because they

652
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: had your storage sort of as well.

653
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 18: Does your tape collection look like this, then you need

654
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 18: a k Tell tape selector with special attachments. It fits

655
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 18: conveniently in your car stores all your tapes neatly ready

656
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 18: for easy selection. Tell the first tape forward, the others follow.

657
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 18: Automatically take your selection when it appears. When replacing tapes,

658
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 18: tape Selector automatically finds the proper place in your home

659
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 18: or in your car. Protect your valuable tapes with tape

660
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 18: Selector four nine from ktel.

661
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: Okay from Kate Toeln.

662
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: Take the tape you selected when it.

663
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: Appears, Yeah, I love it, and then push them all

664
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: back in it. And I used to have a lot

665
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 4: of similar things for records as well.

666
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: Tell tells everything to everyone.

667
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: I were the bomb, wouldn't I it's cold? I dived

668
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: about Cash's today. What do you go for us?

669
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 8: Well, back in the late nineties, I had to borrow

670
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 8: a cass Bury Mindies car. Yeah, very primely proper young lady.

671
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 8: She had her chair to Coraldo was brand news. So

672
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 8: I thought I was the bomb, so to speak, and

673
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 8: driving in the car, so you know, the cassette there,

674
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 8: I put it in there. Good old Johnny Mathis comes

675
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 8: on and I'm thinking that's not my thing. So I

676
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 8: went to fast forward it and the shrieking sound that

677
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 8: came out of it and just didn't looked right in the

678
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 8: same right, and all of a sudden they just chewed.

679
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 14: It up all over on Charles Street and decided to

680
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 14: do the good old living out. Yeah, and it got

681
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 14: stuck and I pulled it out and so forth, and

682
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 14: then try and do that, I think because my auntie

683
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 14: went off off and tried to find his cassette and

684
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 14: I still haven't found to this day. She sold the

685
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 14: car about ten years ago and it still had that

686
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 14: little bit of ribbon sticking out of the cassette player.

687
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 8: They never ever though.

688
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 4: The man who kill the man killed Johnny mathis made.

689
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 8: Me killed oh Man great anymore.

690
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: It was a smoothie, but bad memories. Thanks David leisure By.

691
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: Just imagine going off destroyed the tape Johnny Math But

692
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: also that panic, you know, I'm when it gets stuck

693
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: in there and you start you're trying to pull it

694
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 4: and either snaps or it's just like spaghetti.

695
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: When he said she was really prim and proper that

696
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: he was going to say hit playing it was Derrick

697
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 2: and Clive, who you calling?

698
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: I got a text from someone I didn't leave there now,

699
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: so I can't tell you, but says I heard of

700
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: a lady who got her friend in America. To take

701
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: the audio of Days of Our Lives episodes just off

702
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: the TV back in the day what Australia was years behind.

703
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: Just action apparently, no talking.

704
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: How bizarre.

705
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: Then the friend described what was happening, How hilarious.

706
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: It's funny because there was a lot of long stairs, right,

707
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 4: and those kinds of show, a lot of long stay,

708
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: long stairs, long stairs, go and stare at hope. Yeah, yeah,

709
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 4: all of that kind of stuff. So where missus Tarantula

710
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: was in.

711
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: Gave myself away.

712
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: He did. Actually, let's go to Kingsley.

713
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 21: Good Bye, good morning, and thanks for your show. I

714
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 21: love listening to you two in the morning.

715
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: On the way we were espet appreciate it.

716
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 21: So we My family and I immigrated from Poland in

717
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 21: nineteen eighty and in the nineteen eighty one or two,

718
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 21: I can't remember what it was. My parents bought a

719
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 21: little cassette player and I had a Beatles tape and

720
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 21: a Don McClain tape, and you know, being an eight

721
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 21: year old in the eighties, i'd Polish, being my first language.

722
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 21: I didn't quite understand the lyrics, so I.

723
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 22: Would sit at the dining table and play the songs

724
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 22: and stop them and write down two words at a

725
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 22: time and then rewind and play them towards very I'm

726
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 22: trying to figure out what the words were, got a dictionary,

727
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 22: trying to figure out, you know what parcels.

728
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 7: In the air was.

729
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so it really really.

730
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 21: Helped me with my English at the time.

731
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 22: In the ages, I loved mytte.

732
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: Flower all about American flight at the.

733
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: Same time, a great way to learn English.

734
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: It really is, actually that just you just reminded me

735
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: of that great scene with Whoopi Goldberg and Jumping Jack

736
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: Flash where she's trying to get the lyrics to that

737
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: rewinding getting one rewinding.

738
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: I can't work out with that.

739
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, well, thank you Marsha.

740
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: Thanks.

741
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: He've got a text earlier from I think with Share

742
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 4: from Mountain. Helena said that I used to write words down,

743
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: you know, by continually pausing and playing my friends. I

744
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: used to write lyrics lyric books, which is cool. It's

745
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: any way to get.

746
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: It, Mandy and Mandro, what's your cassette memory? Hello?

747
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 7: Well, I grew up in little sunny Bustleton in about

748
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 7: nineteen yeah, and about nineteen eighty five a group of

749
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 7: girls and myself were right into roller skating. Yes, so

750
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 7: every Saturday we'd get our two dollars, we'd all get

751
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 7: on our deadly tread Lea's and I would put my

752
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 7: boom box cassette player in the basket of my Deadly Treadley,

753
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 7: crank up Billie id Or hot in the city, and

754
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 7: off we'd gone our Deadly Treadley's down to the roller ring.

755
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 7: Frank and Billiard out.

756
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you thought you were the bee's knees. That's cool.

757
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 7: I think I had a red glittering jacket.

758
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: And that's a day out day in the sun, isn't it.

759
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, and day all day at that roller ring, all day,

760
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 7: going around and around.

761
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 13: Rainy night.

762
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: Maybe a slow skate at the end if you were

763
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 3: lucky Eddie Rabbit.

764
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to know what love is? That was

765
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 7: the Beeds skating with boring bleach.

766
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but a sweet and the speed skating.

767
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, back on our deadly Treadley's, cranking Billy Idol, back

768
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 7: up on the.

769
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 4: Way like a snowball.

770
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: She go, roll on the way off. Now you're talking,

771
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: you're talking, Thank you, bye.

772
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: That's funny. Putting the boom box in the basket and

773
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 4: hope that it doesn't fall out and a bit of

774
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: Billy idle blaring.

775
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: I have quite the tale to share on the text

776
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: from Lize, so set the scene.

777
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: It was nineteen seventy nine. I was eight months pregnant.

778
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: We were driving to an anti Nator class in the

779
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 3: red Taruna with the giant tires and tiny racing stirring

780
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: wheel cook. I tried to put a cassette into the

781
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: tape deck, but it wouldn't go in. So I flipped

782
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: up the flippy flat thing to see what the problem was,

783
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: and out crawled a humongous Huntsman spider.

784
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: Oh dot dot don.

785
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 3: I ripped off my seat belt and managed to By

786
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: the way, I'm assuming that lizzes in the passenger seats.

787
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: I ripped off my seat.

788
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: Belt and managed to squeeze eight months pregnant between the

789
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: front seats to the back seat. The spider crawled across

790
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 3: the dash. I'm getting chewls to the driver's side. Have

791
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: you open the window to let it out? But the

792
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: wind blew it back onto me back seat.

793
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

794
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: Wondering to this day how I didn't give birth right

795
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: there and then for a nineteen seventy nine story, That

796
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: story has.

797
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 4: Everything that's a ripper, isn't it. There's a little bench seating.

798
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 4: I'm glad you survived and Bob, let's get to get

799
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 4: Andre and sorry.

800
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 6: Oh the two things to main things I remember about

801
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 6: it was having to press play record at the same time, yes,

802
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 6: catching someone talking and I had to laugh because when

803
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 6: I first called up after the very next song, when

804
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 6: I first started you guys go as the song was

805
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 6: playing like that would annoy.

806
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: The me trying to bloody js. I never shut up.

807
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: It was Gavin Wood on countdown and try to.

808
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: Stop talking about and I'm trying to record.

809
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: I got you by split ends, Thanks Andrew.

810
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 23: The other one I had, yes, was whenever I annoyed

811
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 23: my brothers, they would put the tape out or break

812
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 23: my cast so I wouldn't have them anymore.

813
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 6: And it wasn't a it wasn't an itchline. It was

814
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 6: a win because I was a lovely young brother.

815
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

816
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 23: The amount of time on the weekend trying to wind

817
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 23: them back and again and it doesn't work after the

818
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 23: third or fourth time.

819
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 4: They get a bit screwed up to, don't they if

820
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: they do it? Thanks Mane.

821
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: We have time for one more called Christy and Westminster. Hello, Christy, Christy.

822
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 12: Hello you guys.

823
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 17: How are you doing right?

824
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 4: Actually great? But the casses you got a story for us?

825
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 17: Yeah, the endless of pressing record and play button. When

826
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 17: I'm playing back of pressing recording, you get shouldn't members

827
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 17: words to that effect, exactly, today's the fake. So when

828
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 17: you're listening back to it and you hear this, that's

829
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 17: why I desert, Oh my god, and it ruins the

830
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 17: song always halfway through. And now when I hear songs

831
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 17: and it's it's the song that I've actually pressed record through.

832
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 17: So listening to the song and then I hear this,

833
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 17: wait for this like pause, Oh shoo, that's.

834
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 21: What I expect for someone when I hear it.

835
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 3: Now days ruined the song, But all part of the

836
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: memory makes pretty funny.

837
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 6: Exactly.

838
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: It's Christy.

839
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 17: Thanks, I have a great day.

840
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: Mister Higgins' new album, The Second Act, is out this Friday,

841
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: and Missy is with us now, good morning, welcome.

842
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, guys, say you're going good.

843
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: Not only is the Second Act coming out this Friday,

844
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: but the second act of the show will be in

845
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: Kings Park on Sunday, fifteenth of December. Tickets are on

846
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: sale now through ticket Master tell us about why it

847
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 3: is the second act.

848
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 12: The second act, Well, it is, and this new album

849
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 12: is about entering the second act of my life, I guess.

850
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 12: I mean, I went through a big separation a couple

851
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 12: of years ago from my husband, and we have two

852
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 12: kids together, so it feels like I'm really moving into

853
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 12: the next chapter of my life and taking a big

854
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 12: kind of leap into the unknown and all. So I'm

855
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 12: forty one, just turn forty one, so I'm kind of

856
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 12: moving into the second chapter literally, age wise, and I

857
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 12: think around this age is a lot of kind of

858
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 12: no matter what you're going through, there's always a bit

859
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 12: of reassessing, I think, and a lot of people I

860
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 12: know around me are going through similar kind of reckonings

861
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 12: of identity and direction and things like that. So yeah,

862
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 12: it kind of grapples with all those big life issues.

863
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 4: All those issues been a while between drinks album wise,

864
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: we see them. There's been a lot of life happening

865
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: in between. Did COVID effect that time as well?

866
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 6: Yeah?

867
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 12: COVID was pretty intense for everyone, wasn't it. Melbourne particularly

868
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 12: had a very intense couple of years. Yeah, I think

869
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 12: it made everybody like reassess their values, like reassess what

870
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 12: they wanted to do with their life, how they wanted

871
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 12: to live, who they were living with. You know, it

872
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 12: was Yeah, it was a bit of an uprooting of

873
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 12: everybody's kind of sense of safety and comfort.

874
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 3: I do feel that Melbourne had an experience that we

875
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 3: can't quite relate to in the same way. Here you

876
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: were the most locked down of the world, really, and

877
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 3: we were.

878
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: Probably the least. I was going to ask why.

879
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: It's been six years since you released an album, but

880
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: I think you just answered it when you mentioned what's

881
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: been going on in your life. But coincides with the

882
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: twentieth anniversary of the Sound of White. First off, can

883
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: you believe it's been twenty years?

884
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 15: Here?

885
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: Was I four, wasn't it?

886
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 15: Yeah?

887
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Speaker 12: I know, Yeah, it's pretty big twenty years. I have

888
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 12: released music over the past six years. It's just and

889
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 12: I released an album. It was just a mini album,

890
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 12: So this is my first full length out from it

891
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 12: in six years. But yeah, that's coincide with the anniversary

892
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 12: of the Sound of White, which is kind of interesting

893
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 12: because it is there's definitely some parallels between the two albums,

894
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 12: I think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and what a huge success it was for you

896
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Speaker 4: as well a part of your life.

897
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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I have a lot to thank that album for really,

899
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 12: because it kind of really catafaulted me into the music scene.

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Speaker 2: Well, particularly Scar.

901
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: It was one of those songs when when it came out,

902
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: it was one of those moments where you have where

903
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 3: you go, oh, hang on, this is this is good,

904
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: this is you know something new?

905
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Speaker 2: Did you?

906
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Speaker 3: Did you always feel Skar was going to have that

907
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: kind of impact on everyone?

908
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Speaker 2: No?

909
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Speaker 12: I mean I don't think anybody probably does when they

910
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 12: release a song unless you have a massive ego.

911
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Speaker 2: But I was.

912
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Speaker 12: It was also, you know, my first album ever, so

913
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Speaker 12: I had no idea anybody would listen to it. But

914
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Speaker 12: that that song I did know was a bit of

915
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 12: an ear worm, like yeah you wrote it. It was like,

916
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 12: oh my god, I can't cannot get this chorus out

917
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Speaker 12: of my head.

918
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Speaker 2: It must be it.

919
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Speaker 12: Must be a catch you one, Catch you one?

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Speaker 4: So good, Hey, missy. I just want to know, as

921
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Speaker 4: a recording artist, you have to hear your voice over

922
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Speaker 4: again and hear your songs over again. But how do

923
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Speaker 4: you go with hearing and seeing yourself back? For example,

924
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Speaker 4: did you watch yourself on Australian Story on Monday night.

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Speaker 12: No to watch myself. No, I can't read anything about

926
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Speaker 12: myself or watch myself or listen to myself wise weird, Yeah,

927
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Speaker 12: yeah I can't. I can't stop myself from criticizing myself.

928
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Speaker 12: I think it's just like picking up on every little

929
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Speaker 12: thing and honing in on it. So I'd rather just

930
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Speaker 12: get the broad strokes from someone else.

931
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Speaker 3: I think people that read about themselves are just asking

932
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Speaker 3: for it, don't Yeah, especially that it's going to be

933
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Speaker 3: someone who didn't like what or what you said, especially your.

934
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Speaker 4: Whole episode of Australian Sorry, there's a lot to pick on. Yeah, yeah,

935
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Speaker 4: that was wonderful.

936
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and it's pretty like you know, I get very

937
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 12: honest and vulnerable because the whole album is so it's

938
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 12: pretty intense, absolutely very honest. I had to go there.

939
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just thinking back to the first act for a moment.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you heard yourself on

941
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Speaker 3: the radio?

942
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it was when I had one triple j unnest

943
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 12: when I was seventeen, And yeah, I heard it on

944
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Speaker 12: the radio at my my little because I went to

945
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Speaker 12: boarding school, I heard it radio that I woke up

946
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Speaker 12: to every morning, and yeah, it was crazy. It was

947
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Speaker 12: amazing and yeah, the best feeling ever.

948
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Speaker 4: It's very very cool. I missing in a couple of

949
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Speaker 4: months you are being inducted, let me say this, into

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Speaker 4: the Aria Hall of Fame. When you found out, how

951
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Speaker 4: did you feel? And congratulations by the way, yes, congratulations,

952
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it was quite surreal. Actually, I felt extremely honored.

954
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Speaker 12: I mean, when I think about the other people who've

955
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Speaker 12: been inducted into the Hall of Fame, I can't quite

956
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Speaker 12: believe I'm going to be in their company. Great.

957
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Speaker 3: Our second actor is in Kings Park on Sunday, the

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Speaker 3: fifteenth of December. You have had some bad luck occasionally

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Speaker 3: without tour shows, but I think we're going to be

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Speaker 3: pretty safe on the fifteenth of December. Tickets are on

961
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Speaker 3: sound Now through Ticketmaster and the second act the album

962
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Speaker 3: is out on Friday. Once again, congratulations on the Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame.

964
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Speaker 12: Thanks so much, guys, Thank you.

965
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Speaker 4: Every introduction on that show will be Hall of Fame

966
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Speaker 4: and we'll say.

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Speaker 2: That, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Thanks. Thanks a good day, Crazy and

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Speaker 1: Lisa ninety six, Avem