WEBVTT - F-Boys and how to spot em - Uncut with Logan Ury 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:05.280 Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.080 Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.920 pay our respect to their elders past and present and 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.360 extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:16.120 peoples today. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.560 This episode is recorded on Gaddigal Land of the Aurora Nation. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.440 Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.960 I'm Laura and I'm Brittany, And do you know what 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:46.640 I've been dealing with all day? 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:48.159 Flatulence? 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:48.760 No? 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.000 Is this a trick question? 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.200 Do you notice something that you never you just never 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:53.160 wear it on the day today? 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.800 A stick on bra? You do have your hand down. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.480 Look why do you have that? Because you've got like 0:00:58.520 --> 0:00:59.920 a little razorbackshirt on. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.720 I've got it. Yeah, I decided to wear a stick 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:02.000 on bra. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.280 But like you know, these things are like pretty much 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.520 a one use only situation. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.720 Has been used. I saw it on Lola's face the 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:09.160 other day. 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.360 I've been running this stick on bra for like three 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.480 oh god, maybe three months now. I'll even work to 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.959 the wedding. Got super sweaty and it has not been 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.000 stuck to my breast all day. It's been hanging about 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.160 three centimeters below my breath. Every time I've been down, 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.880 one just goes and. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.680 Those stick on bras was still a think like to people, still, 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:26.640 where do you even get that? 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.880 From? David Jones? So it's the thing. I have so 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.880 many of them, like why are you holding in your 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:32.760 hands showing. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.720 Like and look even Lawla's like unpeeled some of the 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.200 sticky from the inside of it. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:42.399 This looks like it's five years old. Could be. It's disgusting. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:43.080 Should I Now? 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:44.280 I'm gonna sit here and do the rest of the 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:45.080 record with my nipples. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:46.160 The nipples are big right now. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.760 Oh thank you. I'm getting my stick on bra back 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.400 on lucking me anyway, we have a great episode planned 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.720 for you, guys. You have a bit of a story 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.080 that you, for some reason won't share with me until 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:58.920 we turn the MIC's on, So better be bloody good. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:01:59.880 I had to just have a. 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.440 Line just this morning this happened. I don't know if 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.440 you guys have noticed. You haven't said anything, so I 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.840 don't think you've noticed that my hair has been looking 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.040 a little bit different, like it's quite lush. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.359 No, but you always have extension, No, it's quite shiny though. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:15.520 No, No, okay. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.120 Well, I feel like your hair goes through so many 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.639 different variations of who it wants to be that when 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.600 we have a change, it's kind of like when you 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.799 go through a bad breakup. Most people cut a fringe. Yeah, 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.040 just every two weeks change the hair like blonde, short, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:28.760 long stension. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:29.000 No. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.000 I have noticed myself this week, right, I thought my 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:32.960 hair was looking really shiny. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.840 But I have been taking some hair tablets, so I was. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.560 Like healthy, shiny, yeah for hair, And. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.240 It's been smelling really good. But I don't know why 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.720 it's been smelling because you know, in my hair, I 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.840 haven't been doing anything different. I realized that I've been 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.200 using a different shampoo and conditioner. I'm one of those people. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.120 You know, you don't throw anything it gets almost empty, right, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.280 Shampoo conditioning ge is almost empty, so you don't throw 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:53.720 it out. You just get a new one, and then 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.040 you just accumulate like fifteen bottles in the bottom of 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:56.839 your shower. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.239 Also lightly moldy. If you've all seen the inside of 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:00.400 your shower britting hot, what. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:01.320 Was inside of yours? 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.760 So yes, I said, there's like twenty bottles of different 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.919 shit in my shower, and I realized this morning I've 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.320 been using the shampoo conditioner, and I was like, it 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.519 just smells so good. Which one have I been using? 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.080 Because I want to obviously no one replace it. So 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.160 I pick up the bottle, which is a beautiful ones. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.440 The shampoos in this beautiful yellow bottle, the conditioners in 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.279 a beautiful white bottle, very small niche. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.639 Riting across the front. And I had a look and 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:29.480 I said dog shampoo. I knew dog. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:32.800 I knew exactly where this was going, but I didn't 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.640 want to take your punch one and you don't. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.080 Been using Delilah's shampoo and conditioner. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.560 It's lemon, myrtle, It's perfect for your coat, It's beautiful. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.720 I feel like my man is really shiny and my 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:43.560 coat's very healthy. 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.880 But I've been using it for I reckon about eight 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.840 days before I looked, so, do you think that it's 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.040 worth reinvesting in a second lot of it and just continue? 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.800 No one's going to shame you for using dog shampoo. 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:53.800 First on, I'm going to blame my cleaner. I think 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:55.560 my cleaner put it in the shower. I think they 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.680 also didn't know so because I have it in the 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.640 bath in my second bathroom because that's where I often 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:00.320 will wash delight. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.800 So how empty were these bottles that you decided? Were 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:03.480 they full bottles? 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:04.640 No, they're full ones, Okay. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.200 Right, because I was gonna say, surely unless you're not 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.120 the one who ever washed your dog, Like surely you 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.440 would have been like, oh, these look very similar to 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:12.400 the bottles. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:14.920 Now they were a new one that hadn't bought, that 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.560 hadn't used on Delilah yet. So I've been using lemon myrtle, 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:18.040 but like. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.719 It's very Sydney like you would not know there's no 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:23.320 picture of a dog on there, because I know people 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.000 at home and thinking, do you not remember when I 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.240 fed my nephew dog treats, not knowing that they were 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.920 like these organic It was not intentional, but they were 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.560 like these beautiful organic like farmer market. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.520 They were sent along with human food. There was like 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.599 a little packet of trial dog treats in there, and 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.719 they were like doughnut shaped and I just assumed they 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.880 were cookies and I gave them to my nephew and 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.000 they were really bougie Eastern Suburbs dog treats. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.560 Yes, And I remember we had a listener. That must 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:50.600 have been a year or two ago. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.400 But they wrote in they lived in Japan and they 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.599 couldn't read They couldnt speak the langage yet, and they 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.599 couldn't read what they were buying. So they were buying 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.800 like dog and cat treats because it was like real 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.240 bougie packaging. And they didn't know until one of their 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.920 local friends came over and literally saw them eating the thing, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.119 and they're like, what are you doing? 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:07.000 She had no idea. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.039 She's like, I thought these were delicious snacks. She was 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.840 like putting them out for her friends in everything. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:11.200 Do you know what? 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.400 I think it goes to show more so than us 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.600 just being revolting and not able to read the packaging. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.080 Maybe the standard is now too high for our pets. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.159 I feel like you're speaking to me when you say 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:27.040 that Delilah does eat air fried salmon like human grade salmon. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.240 But apart from that, she like meatballs in there as well. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.640 Now she needing really well, I did give her okay, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.880 I learned one I had made a grave error. 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:40.200 I gave her tie. You're going to kill her and 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:41.920 you cannot give a dog's tie. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.320 Well, I a dog's tie. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.480 You can't get dogs, spices, garlic. It's a terrible it 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:47.320 went straight through off. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:49.880 I think that's what happened. You know how I had 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.680 to throw my rug out because she shat on it. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.279 I think that was from the tie. What kind of 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.200 tie were you giving the dog? It was just the 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.400 chicken out of the tie, right. I would never give 0:05:58.440 --> 0:05:59.919 her the onion and stuff. I know she can't have. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.320 What I gave her was what I thought she could eat. 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.520 I'm not irresponsible, but I think I gave it to 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.680 with some rice as well. I think the sauces must 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.640 have just been coating the chicken still too much? 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:15.680 Oh yeah, oh that's afused. Oh explosive diarrhea, Ti fice spice. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.280 That's when I usually hand her over to Quisha and 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:18.720 I'm like, Keisha, I need some dogs in. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:19.640 Sorry. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:22.880 Well, I don't know if you're going to start a 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.360 trend with this one, brit I don't know if people 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.480 are going to start taking on using dog shampoo. It is, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.320 despite how luminous and luxurious your hair. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.599 Lo No, it's beautiful and it's all natural and orgunny 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:32.800 because it's good for the dogs. 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I used to do that too, but 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:08.200 I was like a child. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.840 Yeah okay, I'll still do it like a grown five 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.040 year old. Before we get into what today's episode is about, 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.520 we are talking to well, actually I'm not speaking to 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.440 logan Ury today. Brittany and Keisha did an interview recently 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.920 with relationship expert logan Uri. 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.480 She's from him, she's their coach. She's amazing. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.440 We've had her on the podcast before, but we did this. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.800 There was only one time that Logan was available. It 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.320 was about a week or two ago, but it was 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:33.280 when Laura got married. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.600 The reason why having Kish fill in on this interview 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.920 there was so perfect timing is because this conversation is 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.200 all around fuck boys. Sorry, Keisha, not that you're only 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.640 attracted to five boys, but like why are we attracted 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.520 to fuck boys? And that Keisha and Brittany and the 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.520 other part of this is around the sunk cost fallacy. Now, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.440 something that we've touched on on this podcast before is 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.360 this idea that if you're in a relationship it's safe, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.080 you kind of know what you know and you know 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.880 what you're getting, that it's easier and better to stay 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.120 in it than it is to risk that relationship for 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.160 something better when you're not happy. It's like people who 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.960 stay in relationships long past they're used by date just 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.280 because the fear of starting again is so great. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.160 And Logan, she's an author, she's a behavioral scientist, she 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.440 does work for Hinge as a dating coach. She knows 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.880 her stuff, so she's the most perfect person to talk 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:19.400 to about this. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.480 But anyway, something I want to speak about before we 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.080 get into the interview with Logan Uri is something that 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.440 I'm sure so many of you have seen in the 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.040 news and across social media in the last couple of days, 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.960 and that is a Lenciaga and their wildly controversial campaigns 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.400 that have come to light in the last. 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:36.960 Week, or as I like to think of it, they're 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.400 what the actual fuck campaign? What the actual fuck? What 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.120 the actual fuck will Balenciaga thinking now? 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.520 So for anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about, 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.120 basically this all started last week. There was a campaign 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.520 that was launched and it was a Teddybear BDSM style 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.319 Teddybear that was modeled by a child, a little girl 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.160 standing in different areas within a room that was kind 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.240 of like a lound room, and surrounding her were empty 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.400 wine glasses and also other objects that could pertain to 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:07.240 being sex toys. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:08.559 Now, it has. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:13.560 Been very widely criticized, and there's also been a secondary 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:14.640 campaign that's come to light. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:14.839 Now. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.560 This has come to light in the last week as well. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.360 And this is a picture of the co lab that 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.559 was done between Valenciaga and Addedas And it's a flat 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.439 late image of a handbag and court documents like paperwork. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.280 It's obviously taken in what's meant to be like a 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:29.720 lawyer's office on the desk. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.480 Yah, it looks very busy, like very important, this really 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.199 nice designer handbag with someone that's you know, got. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:35.680 A lot to do. 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.360 And one of the pieces of paperwork that's brought out 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.120 on the desk is actually a court document from the 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.960 two thousand and eight Supreme Court ruling on child pornography. Now, 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.320 when you layer these things together, when you look at 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.959 the images around the BDSM Teddy Bear that features this 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.040 little child, and then you look at this separate campaign 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:57.680 that has court ruling documents around child pornography, it really 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.959 is hard to kind of argue the case that this 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:02.840 isn't trying to sexualize children. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:03.640 Well, it's not. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.439 Even one child, Laura, it's there's a few different girls 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:07.160 in this campaign. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:07.520 Shoot. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.199 It's not even just one. Like they've gone out of 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.400 their way. They've got multiple little models and they put 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.880 them in multiple different compromising positions. It's discussing and it's 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.560 hard to look at For me. This doesn't take an 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.400 eagle eyed sleuth to discover this, to unpack it. You 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.440 look at the photo, there's only one real piece of 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.400 information you can read in the photo, like all these 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.920 pages that are scattered everywhere, and there's this one piece 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.400 of information. They're not dumb. They're one of the biggest 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.480 brands in the world. They know someone's going to say, 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:33.360 wonder what that is. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.880 That's what people do. For some reason, unbeknownst to me 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:37.920 or anyone in the world. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.200 We cannot figure it out. They have wanted to hone 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.720 in on this. I don't even know what to call it. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.640 I don't know whether to call it a topic. But 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.120 they've decided to go down this track of involving children, 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.480 and I can't work out why. It's almost like we 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.640 had a discussion about this, you and I, Laura, not 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.360 that long ago, in regards to this new Jeffrey Dahmer 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.640 Netflix show that book The World by Storm, We had 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:02.800 a discussion about. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.000 Is it too far? Is it too much? 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.520 Because they are hollywoodizing the idea of true crime and 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:08.680 it's gone to the next level. 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.200 It's so real, it's so it made it look so glamorous. 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:12.640 It was so over the top, and. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.600 I think they're doing the same now with this campaign 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.319 with blens Yaga. It's almost like they need to keep 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.080 pushing the extremes to be spoken about. And I just 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.200 think this one has gone too far, Like where do 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.520 we draw the line if for a fashion brand, the 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.320 only thing that they can think of is I have 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:30.280 a brilliant idea. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.000 Let's get a three year old or multiple three year. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:38.680 Olds and put bondage bears and court documents relating to 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:43.200 like child yeah, child exploitation. Who in their right mind 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.920 approved that? And this is the thing, right, there's a 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.080 lot of blame shifting brands that are this big. There's 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.000 not one person that sits back and says, I have 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.920 an idea, I'll call a photographer, let's pressico. This goes 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.000 through so many people for approval. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:57.800 Yeah, And I think the thing that's really important about 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.679 this is not only I guess like it's one thing 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.600 for a brand to claim ignorance. And when you say 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.040 blame shifting, brit there's been a lot that's happened in 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.600 the last couple of days where Balenciaga as a brand 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.880 is suing the creative directing agency. So there's an agency 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.319 called North six and they're the ones that were responsible 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.920 with coming up with the creative direction of this campaign. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.760 Balenciaga has opened a twenty five million dollar core case 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.800 against them to try and sue for damages. But as 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.000 a brand, when your brand has been built on pushing 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.640 the social norms, Balenciaga's brand has been built on controversy 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.400 in the last couple of years, and the amount of 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.800 pr that they get from creating incredibly controversial content, this 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.680 to me is not It's not an accidental Oh, we 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.600 didn't know that this was going to be included. Maybe 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.080 Balenciaga wasn't aware that that specific piece of paper, that 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.960 specific court document was going to be included. But the 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.880 issue is is that this conversation hasn't come up because 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.959 there was one image that pertained to child sexual assault. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.440 The reason why this has become so huge is because 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.520 when you put BDSM bear together and you put together 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.720 the flat lay image, it was their overall intention to 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.160 be shocking. And the question is is, obviously, has this 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.600 gone too far? I think in the court of public opinion, 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.080 the answer is absolutely yes. 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.640 Okay, this is what frustrates me and where I want 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.240 to call bullshit is that I do there's like a 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.480 lot of blame shifting, But this is what Balanciaga came 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.120 out with their statement and said, we take this matter 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.480 very seriously and are taking legal action against the parties 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.320 responsible for creating the set and including unapproved items for 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:34.440 our Spring twenty three campaign photoshoot. We strongly condemn abuse 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.160 of children in any form. We stand for children safety 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.720 and wellbeing. Now, the thing that I'm calling bullshit on 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.640 is that's all well and good, right. What they're saying 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.720 is there were unapproved items that we you know, so 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:46.760 we didn't sign off on it. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.440 Someone's taken creative control and done it. That's fine. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:55.280 There is no way Balanciaga releases that campaign without then 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.719 reviewing the images and saying, yes, it doesn't happen. It 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.720 will never in a million years happened. So even if 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.920 someone has gone, I've got this brilliant idea. All this 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.520 shit wasn't supposed to be in there, let's put it 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.800 in there, it still goes back to Blooneiaga. They still 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.760 tick it off and say brilliant, that's what we wanted 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.760 to Thank you, here's your money, let's go live. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.040 Well. Absolutely, and I think also on top of that, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.600 for all of these high fashion designer creative concept campaigns, 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.800 there are so many cooks, there are so many eyes 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.400 on this creative because nothing walks out of the door 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.880 of a high end fashion brand that hasn't been scrutinized over. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.600 There's so many millions of dollars that go into creating 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.000 these ad campaigns, so I think to try and shift 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.640 the blame is a way of trying to save face. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.080 I also thought it was very interesting not only is 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.560 Balenciaga trying to shift blame and say that you know 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.640 that they weren't aware that there was items that they 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.680 didn't have full insight or overview over that were included 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.760 in their campaigns. The thing is they're only trying to 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.240 sue North six for that one image, for that one 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.000 document that was included. Nothing has been said about the 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.240 BDSM bear and the inclusion of children, because obviously they 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.720 were completely across that campaign, so that has not a 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.040 leg to stand on for them to be able to 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.480 sue in that. Now, this comes back to what we 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.280 just spoke about in terms of high end fashion brands 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:14.040 really pushing controversial concepts as part of their ad campaigns 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.640 as a way of generating pr I guess the thing 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.360 that I think is really interesting is that fashion has 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:24.160 a long history of sexualizing children, not in such obvious ways, 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.280 but in terms of like using very prepubescent young girls 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.720 to model what should be for an adult. Now, obviously 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.960 this is well and truly gone far past that because 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.760 it is a toddler modeling something that has been created 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.320 for an adult. But it's blurring the line between what 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.640 is for a child and what is something that we 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:43.600 see as being very sexualized. 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.800 They did do a homeless Range, and I'm using that 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:51.120 inverted commas Blenciaga in conjunction with Kanye West, that was 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.400 inspired by, for want of better word, homelessness, which is 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.160 absolutely wild and so out of touch. You think of 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.120 the people that are collaborating and making Range. A billionaire's 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.640 like a billionaire company, a billionaire individual that have come 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:04.680 together and. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.920 Said, what I feel like is, let's take the piss 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:07.520 a little bit here. 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:09.240 Well, I don't think it's taking the piss. I think 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.640 the reason is dusting. Yeah, but the reason is to 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.480 make people angry, and by making people angry, it generates 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:15.760 this huge pr machine. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.760 I don't think it's to make yeah, mayb people angry, 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.200 not about the issue at heart, though, just to spark conversation, 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:22.840 like look at this shoe, Laura, I don't know if 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:23.720 you've ever seen. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:28.240 Their homeless range. That shoe is made to just look 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.040 like somebody had and how much do they sell it? For? 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.080 Thousands of dollars? Yeah, it's crazy. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.240 It's made to look like somebody has not been able 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.280 to afford shoes for ten years, and I have worn 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.840 the same pair of shoes everywhere they've gone. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:41.440