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Speaker 1: And now joining me on the line. I'm very conscious

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Speaker 1: of his time. It is Matt Cunningham, Sky News bureau

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Speaker 1: chief for the Northern Territory. Good morning to you, Matt. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: a very well busy day for you, mate. Once again,

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Speaker 1: they're at the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: That's right. We're up to day seven now in this

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Speaker 2: murder trial of Comfortable Zachary Rolf, who we know it's

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Speaker 2: pleaded not guilty to that one charge of murder and

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Speaker 2: the backup charges of manslaughter and engaging in a violent

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Speaker 2: act causing death over the shooting death of Cumenjoy Walker

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Speaker 2: and Namo on the nights of November twenty nineteen. Now, look, yesterday, Katie,

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Speaker 2: we heard evidence from a couple of Comfortable role friends

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Speaker 2: and fellow police officers from Our Springs, including Comfortable Mitchell

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Speaker 2: Hanson and Comfortable Brianna Body. Now, these were officers who

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Speaker 2: were part of his general Patrol Duties group in our Strings.

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Speaker 2: They went part of the team that went the immediate

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Speaker 2: response team that went to you in the move. They

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Speaker 2: were part of his in our Springs. They're both asked

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Speaker 2: about this theme that's been running through this trial, this

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Speaker 2: phrase that's youth in police training, knife equals gone, and

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Speaker 2: both of those officers confirmed that in their training they

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Speaker 2: are taught that when a police officer is confronted by

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Speaker 2: an offender with a knife or a blade or an

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Speaker 2: edged weapon, their training is to draw their firearm and

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Speaker 2: to be prepared to use it. Now, the defense said

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of this trial that that would be

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Speaker 2: something it would be pressing home. Of course, we know

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Speaker 2: that in that confrontation where Comen Joe Walker was shot,

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Speaker 2: he'd stabbed Comestable Rolf in the shoulder with a pair

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Speaker 2: of surgical scissors, comes to Rolf, then fires three shots. Now,

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Speaker 2: the prosecution and the defense, as we've discussed Katie, agreed

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Speaker 2: that that first shot was reasonable and necessary under the circumstances.

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Speaker 2: What this case hangs on is those second and third shots.

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Speaker 2: They're the shots that the prosecution say we're not eagerly justified.

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Speaker 2: There was two point six seconds between shot one and

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Speaker 2: shot two, and the prosecution says that between that two

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Speaker 2: point six seconds the situation had significantly changed. They say

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Speaker 2: that at that point Comfortable Ros's partner, Comfortable Adamy Burle,

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Speaker 2: had Cumen Joe Walker pinned down on the ground and

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Speaker 2: they therefore, they say that those shots were not reasonable

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Speaker 2: or necessary. We're going to hear more event evidence from

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Speaker 2: police officers today, Katie. In either today or in the

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Speaker 2: next couple of days, we're going to going to hear

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Speaker 2: from Comfortable Adamy Burle, who was comfortable Roll's partner, who

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Speaker 2: went into that house and in the mood with him.

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Speaker 2: And this week we're also expected to hear some evidence

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Speaker 2: from some members of the community.

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Speaker 1: From you in the Moon Well, Matt Cunningham, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be an incredibly busy week. We'll try

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Speaker 1: and catch up with you again throughout the week. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for the cross this morning. No thank

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Speaker 1: you