WEBVTT - #101 Peeing In The Pool, Lovemaking and Fight Styles With Laura Byrne

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask how I got wrote into this episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Because Ashes on holidays, it must be nice, must be

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<v Speaker 2>must very nice. Welcome back to two doting dads. I

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<v Speaker 2>am Maddie Jay and I am a doting mum Laura Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a podcast all about parenting. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a good, it is a bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the relatable is that I don't know them.

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<v Speaker 2>Tackle that was very good. I can't remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've listened to this podcast a couple of times. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys are very good. Ash is also exceptional, So I've

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<v Speaker 1>got big shoes to feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that episode you listened to in the car that

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<v Speaker 2>was on the drive down the South coast, that was

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<v Speaker 2>probably one of our best episodes we've ever done. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was so nervous because I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to listen and judge me. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>listening to it back and I was thinking, this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best EPs we've ever done. Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>To give context to that, So we were driving down

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<v Speaker 1>to the house. I don't know if you've spoken have

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<v Speaker 1>you spoken.

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<v Speaker 2>About the house every week?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, right, Tamha must be nice. So we we were

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<v Speaker 1>driving down to the house that we're renovating down South,

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<v Speaker 1>and Matt was like, Okay, I need to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this episode just to kind of give it the one

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<v Speaker 1>sover it's been edited. It won't take long. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was genuinely surprised by how good it is. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>I had any doubts me or Ash or both, just

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<v Speaker 1>the chemistry unparalleled. Thank you anyway, thank you, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for having me back.

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<v Speaker 2>Our listeners know that obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>I also am now a listener. So and also, god.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn it, I fucking hate that you're like like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, we got another million downloads, and you're like

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<v Speaker 2>you're over there, like at a buffet table of like

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<v Speaker 2>wings and steak and chicken and Ashna I here with.

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<v Speaker 1>Like your fucking socks on your microphone, rolling around in

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<v Speaker 1>cat hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Just battling every single week, whereas you're over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, speaking of cats. I want to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>about Raspberry.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell me you're thinking about it. It averse. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know before before sorry, what happens normally this part Laura

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<v Speaker 2>is Ash and I will have a beer and then

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<v Speaker 2>we have.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how much I love beer so well?

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<v Speaker 2>You do like beer. You have had a stony before

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<v Speaker 2>and you were like, oh my god, this is really delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, fuck yeah, my wife's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those cool women who drink beer.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to call me a pick me was I like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I drink beer now, it will impress my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just saw, yeah, all you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>is play cricket now, and fucking there we go, grow

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<v Speaker 2>mustache and peg mey?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this what you and Ash do when I'm not home?

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is literally like the man of people

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<v Speaker 2>who were like you and Ash are clearly fucking each other?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you please change the sheets? You do record from

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<v Speaker 1>our house?

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<v Speaker 2>We did? We did. We're out there one undred hundred

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<v Speaker 2>episodes and I did a little call out being like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>what should we do to celebrate? And this one each

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<v Speaker 2>other called David was like, cover yourself and oil and

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<v Speaker 2>then record a podcast and then wrestle and film it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like, all right, David, we'll do it for the

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<v Speaker 2>right feet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's for the only fans channel. You can't give that

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<v Speaker 1>content away for free. No one's forcing you.

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<v Speaker 2>If it gets us a new listener, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, look, let's do the very lucrative stone Wood sponsorship.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, This is oligatory craft for before you sorry, rush

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<v Speaker 2>into that attack that beer with your fingernails. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the Hinterland big Ale. May I just give you a

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<v Speaker 2>little description, Laura, of the drink you're about to have.

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<v Speaker 1>It says mandarin, citrus, peel and pine Eclipse. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a summer holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got mint in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate mint.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't have mintent? Oh god sake, Laura. No one is

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<v Speaker 2>making beer, and especially a brand as good as Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>What is making a beer with eclipse mints in it?

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<v Speaker 2>What does it say? Clips?

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<v Speaker 1>It says at the top it says Eclipse, mandarin, citrus,

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<v Speaker 1>peel and pine.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the eclipse means. Let me see,

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<v Speaker 2>just hear.

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<v Speaker 1>It also says pineapple, pine and herbs. So it could

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<v Speaker 1>have mint in it because mint is a herd.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a Hinterland pale Ale full flavored. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a limited edition, though, Laura, and it's a balanced pale

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<v Speaker 2>ale lighting up the Southern Cross with ossy ossy clips.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's try it well, run in because if it's limited release,

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<v Speaker 1>it won't last long. Ah. I just squirted myself.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what she said.

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<v Speaker 1>That's usually ash all right, very happy. I can get

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<v Speaker 1>around it. But you again, all right, let's go on. Raspberry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sorry, that's not the Raspberry is not in the can.

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<v Speaker 1>I want us to talk about the cat.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you wouldn't be surprised. There's a lot of like

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<v Speaker 2>for your notes on this. Before we go on, I

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<v Speaker 2>just have to say that if you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>your hands on this beer the Hinterland Big pal Al,

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<v Speaker 2>head down to Dan Murphy's a bws around the country

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<v Speaker 2>or jump on their website Stonewood dot com dot au

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<v Speaker 2>and get it delivered to your door. Laura Burn, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would like to know your honest opinions on the cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, she fucking sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>You hate it, don't you? I see you look our

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<v Speaker 1>cat with such distain. And to be fair, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>real She's a real like bus shelter cat. So she

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone who's not aware, I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>the story you've told. We got her through a rescue.

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<v Speaker 1>She came from a literal bus shelter and she has

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<v Speaker 1>like real scrappy vibes, Like she kind of looks at

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<v Speaker 1>us sometimes and she's like, why the fuck did you

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<v Speaker 1>take me from my home. I liked being in the

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<v Speaker 1>bus shelter. This place is too cushy. She tries to

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<v Speaker 1>shred like the kids. Every time the kids walk past,

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<v Speaker 1>she tries to scratch them.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single time Lola walks past her. I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>would be yeah, literally like swiping out it with her

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<v Speaker 2>like claws hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>She does the same to Nana, and Nana can't run

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<v Speaker 1>very fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Nana fucking hates that cat.

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<v Speaker 1>I know she does.

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<v Speaker 2>You do too, No, no, only because Laura, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to hang with the cat at home and not around

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<v Speaker 2>and all the cat does is like it just fucking

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<v Speaker 2>scratches everything, and it just like shits and pisses all day.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you leave any food on the kitchen bench,

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<v Speaker 2>like doesn't matter how many times you've been like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get up there, it will just fucking take it.

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<v Speaker 1>It does. It does do all of those things. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's cute too, and she does like a little head scratch.

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<v Speaker 2>Does she though not really does she.

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<v Speaker 1>She's very wild. I think she's quite close to being

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<v Speaker 1>like a leopard or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, every time we go outside for any reason,

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<v Speaker 2>she is like she is like a prisoner who's been

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<v Speaker 2>in isolation. Its whole entire life, and it's just gagging

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<v Speaker 2>to go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Raspberry hates living with us as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think no one's enjoying the situation at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we give her a good home. I really try.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you happy though?

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<v Speaker 1>I do love her?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I'm happy? Hand on hard? Do you?

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<v Speaker 1>I wish she was nicer to me, but yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>do like it. I just wanted to want to cuddle me,

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<v Speaker 1>but she doesn't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>How does she compare to your other cat? What was

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<v Speaker 2>its name? Ninja?

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<v Speaker 1>Ninja? Look for anyone who's who doesn't know my Instagram handle,

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<v Speaker 1>Lady in a Cat. Go throw your follow Lady in

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<v Speaker 1>a Cat?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hang on a seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why it's Lady in a Cat is because

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<v Speaker 1>once upon a time, when Matt and I first met,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a cat and his name was Ninja, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would always say that Ninja was quite like a

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<v Speaker 1>dog like. He would do things that Buster would do

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<v Speaker 1>because they were best friends. I'd hang out together. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>take Buster for a walk, Ninja would come with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd all go for a walk around the park together.

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<v Speaker 1>He would sleep in my bed at night time, he

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<v Speaker 1>was super cuddly. And every time I describe Ninja to Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's like, well, you don't like cats, you like dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>You just want another dog.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that's why I had. I had Ninja

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<v Speaker 2>for Muster, been like a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you didn't like him either, though, but he was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I not like Ninja?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Raspberry will improve. She's still a kitten. She

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<v Speaker 1>needs some time. She's got that real bush shelter vibe

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<v Speaker 1>about us. She's just got to get out of the

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<v Speaker 1>scrappiness and in it. You know, a year's time, she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be living here in Bondai in a lap

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<v Speaker 1>of luxury, like she just.

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<v Speaker 2>Wants to be out there working the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>She does.

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<v Speaker 2>She does.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's a good reference.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't suit this lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you. All my brain was doing then

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<v Speaker 1>was figuring out whether what you were saying was going

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<v Speaker 1>to get me canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>I fucked the cat. It was once. I regret it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, look ashes away, I am filling in. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a one show only I would like to maybe two.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't told me.

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<v Speaker 2>That, maybe too. We're not sure. I forget when Ash

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<v Speaker 2>comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to point out that, because I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts for a living, I came to this prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm recording. Am I recording?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm recording.

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<v Speaker 2>If that if my camera angler is not good, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to sound like a DV here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's your face. I can't change the

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<v Speaker 1>way you look.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I came to this recording today with several points.

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<v Speaker 1>The camera's good, You're good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I've written down Raspberry, Matt peas in the pool period,

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<v Speaker 1>nappy Lola falling asleep on helicopter, penis slap, crying, penis slap,

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<v Speaker 1>bribing Lola, and I would like to point out that

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<v Speaker 1>you have prepared nothing. How we roll, baby, Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to see someone's doing the heavy lifting here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we rob because Laura, I just I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to give you the opportunity to show everyone on two

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<v Speaker 2>doting dads how funny you are. This is about you,

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<v Speaker 2>not about me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because you did no preparation. But it's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>At least we've got someone here to steer the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>As you guys know, we have just gotten back from

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<v Speaker 1>a cruise and I've learned a valuable lesson over the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days because I have been loudly and

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<v Speaker 1>proudly telling everyone that I am now a cruiser. I

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<v Speaker 1>am a cruiser. I love to cruise. I am a cruiser.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been ridden by the cruise bug. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I also found out today that's saying that you like

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<v Speaker 1>to cruise means that you like to solicit sex. You

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<v Speaker 1>cruise for sex. It's a like a It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>term that used to be used for people who like

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<v Speaker 1>hide out in parks. And when I have sex with people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not look at us like Mitch told you that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know it's true. I googled it today. I said

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<v Speaker 1>it to my boss last night, who works in radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I am cruiser. And kiir On who

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<v Speaker 1>runs ARN, was like, you need to stop saying that

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<v Speaker 1>to people.

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<v Speaker 2>Gay slang term. Yeah. In the sixties, people would cruise

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<v Speaker 2>to arrange. Okay, I think it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well we cruis loud and proud.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a cruiser.

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<v Speaker 1>We are cruisers, and we were both very guilty of.

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<v Speaker 2>Turning our noses up with people who would take cruises.

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<v Speaker 2>I would look at those people as the type of

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<v Speaker 2>people who would have fake plants in the house. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly remember saying I would rather eat my own

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<v Speaker 1>shit than go on a cruise. And so I said that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you went on the last Pano cruise, you

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<v Speaker 1>took Nana, you took the kids, and I preference going

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<v Speaker 1>to work overgoing on that cruise. Like I could have

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<v Speaker 1>moved work around, but I was like, we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go on the crew.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't want to go. I was so annoyed, and

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't come in that cruise.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Nah, not for me. Cruising is not

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<v Speaker 1>for me. But this time, so this trip, my mum's

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<v Speaker 1>had a really, really tough year and she really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go on this cruise as well. And so it

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<v Speaker 1>turned into Matt organizing it. Ellie was going, my mum

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go. Matt invited his sister. My sister then came,

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<v Speaker 1>My brother flew in from the United States. He came

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and there was fifteen of us and seven

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<v Speaker 1>of those were children.

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<v Speaker 2>And that, to me, on paper, would be an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>disaster for me. Anything that requires like multiple groups, I

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<v Speaker 2>could do two groups awful, maybe three, But we had

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen people, fifteen people in the group.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly thought we would be tolerating this trip. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, cool, we're going to go on a family cruise.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be awful. We will tolerate it, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's going to come home exhausted. We got there on

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<v Speaker 1>the first day, and I want to say this, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you guys have been working with p and O.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally have not been working with p ANDO. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not care at all about the whole situation. I

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<v Speaker 1>had so much fun on that first day. Everything was

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<v Speaker 1>so seamless. It was so easy that I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>is this the point where I sit here and eat

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<v Speaker 1>my own shit?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I do it at dinner time? Do I do

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<v Speaker 1>it for disa dinner? I had so much fun, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was for me. It was the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of the logistical planning, because when you go on a

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<v Speaker 1>big family holiday, the thing that's the most annoying thing

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that you have to organize the taxi

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<v Speaker 1>to get to dinner or you guys, you all get

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<v Speaker 1>to the beach and then it's windy and the kids

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<v Speaker 1>are having a shit time and you got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out like a solution when we.

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<v Speaker 2>Were all on the cruise. It's the transitioning as well,

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<v Speaker 2>of like you got to get the kids ready, They've

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<v Speaker 2>got to book the taxi, got to wait for the taxi,

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<v Speaker 2>the taxi is late, all of a sudden, you're too

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<v Speaker 2>close to dinner time, so you're not even at the restauran,

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<v Speaker 2>but the kids are already hungry and they getting upset.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of that is it's just a nightmare totally.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all that logistic. It's the mental admin that

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<v Speaker 1>makes holidaying and big groups really annoying. And so going

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<v Speaker 1>on this cruise where everything was contained, like there was

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<v Speaker 1>this one day where the weather wasn't great and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>plan to take the kids to the pool, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got to the pool and everyone was cold and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was complaining, and we're like, oh fuck, what are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to do now? And then we all looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the itinery and somewhere on the boat there was karaoke,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, at two o'clock in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are there doing karaoke. So, yeah, I am

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<v Speaker 1>a born again cruiser.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fucking great.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll find me in your gay park. I will be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I loved it. People have been coming up to

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<v Speaker 2>me being like, was it actually that good? It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a cult.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a cult.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, just come and try it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just just have one day, one session, that's all you need,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you'll be converted. It's the most fucking life

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<v Speaker 2>changing experience other than like becoming a father I've ever experienced.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know you guys talk about like parenting side

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<v Speaker 1>of things, So I mean, this was something that happened

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<v Speaker 1>whilst we were away, and I wanted to bring it

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<v Speaker 1>up with you because I have realized I do something

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<v Speaker 1>as a mum which is probably not I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>fallen into the habit of doing it, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>particularly proud of it. I guess I would say I've

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<v Speaker 1>fallen into the habit of bribing our children. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to do something, I'd be like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have that unless you do this. We can't have

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<v Speaker 1>that unless you finish this.

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<v Speaker 2>But also not to attack you here, Oh god, Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>Something else you do is you make big threats. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>big threats. They always say that they ever make a

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<v Speaker 2>threat to your children that you can't follow through on.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not that. Give me an example, You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I will kill your father unless you finish your

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<v Speaker 2>chicken nuggets.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't. And I'm like, Laura, you can't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>You make big threats. I can't think of the exact

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<v Speaker 2>ones that you make. But you're the type of, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>say we're getting off the boat. We're in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the ice. Yeah, We're like, we're in the Pacific

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<v Speaker 2>right now, cannot see land. And Laura's like, we will

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<v Speaker 2>get off the boat right now unless you come here

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<v Speaker 2>and put your shoes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I haven't quite mastered the art of like,

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<v Speaker 1>what isn't it? What is an appropriate threat? So we

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<v Speaker 1>were at dinner this one night and Lola wasn't eating

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<v Speaker 1>and she was being absolute pain on the ass. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I like Lola and I we we can vibe down.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like normally I can. I feel like normally

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a pretty good communicator with Lola, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>get her to do things that you, for example, can't

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<v Speaker 1>do because she likes me more.

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<v Speaker 2>Just I love how sensitively you approach that one. She

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<v Speaker 2>fucking does not like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm her favorite parents, she said. She even said

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<v Speaker 1>on the cruise, Matt was like Lola doesn't like me,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, Daddy, I love you, and you go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>can I have a hugger? She goes, oh, no, she's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think okay? Do you think there's any correlation?

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<v Speaker 2>Just really quick to throw this out and get your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts before you continue your story. Do you think there's

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<v Speaker 2>any correlation in the fact that you and Lola look

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<v Speaker 2>like each other and me and Marley look like each other,

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<v Speaker 2>that we're kind of like because we're so similar, that's

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<v Speaker 2>why we get along so well. Because you know, me

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<v Speaker 2>and Marley are pretty tight, you and Lola pretty tight.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a connection there or is it just coincidence?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it is mildly narcissistic that we named

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<v Speaker 1>our child Marley Matti and Lola and Laura, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Mattie j Marley May. Yeah, it's fucking weird. We did parents.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't plan it. It just happened. And then someone

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<v Speaker 1>pointed it out when Lola was like six months and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, it's too far to go, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone too far.

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<v Speaker 2>What have we done? Who are we? What have we done?

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<v Speaker 1>I's any connection there? No, I don't think that Lola

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<v Speaker 1>likes me because she thinks I look like her. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a weird No, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Look like each other. But just because you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>like you were just cut from the same cloth, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you're obviously the same DNA, but you're just like you

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<v Speaker 2>know how, you have like a bit of a weird

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<v Speaker 2>rib cage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a condition we have, pectus excavatam. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>called you know, I once dated a guy, right so,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a cardio thoracic surgeon, and the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I took my shirt off, he went, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can fix that. That's what he said to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, are you prick crushed? Could you fix it?

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<v Speaker 3>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can get an operation. Let's do it for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who is so confused by what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a hole in my chest, like my my

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<v Speaker 1>rib cage goes right in. It makes my boobs look

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<v Speaker 1>a lot bigger than they are. But when I'm laying down,

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of look a bit deformed.

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<v Speaker 2>Lola has it a little bit as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that's why we connect, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you guys have the same ribcage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, let's move on to the story at dinner

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<v Speaker 1>this one night, Lola was being a little bit hard

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<v Speaker 1>to manage, and I have been using bribery increasingly. I've noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've clocked it. Okay, I'm not proud of it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't eat her dinner and I said to her.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Lola, you gonna eat eat your pizza,

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<v Speaker 1>or we're going back to the room and there will

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<v Speaker 1>be no donuts. So she this. I said, yeah, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>said this a few times, right, So then I had

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<v Speaker 1>to follow through because she and I know Lola, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if she's wants something, she's stubborn as hell. But the

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<v Speaker 1>second I pick her up and I look as though

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to follow through with the action, she goes, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll eat it. I'll eat it. So she wouldn't eat

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<v Speaker 1>a dinner, and I was like, that's it, Lola, no

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<v Speaker 1>dessert for you. We're going back to our room. So

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<v Speaker 1>I pick her up and we get to the front

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<v Speaker 1>door and she has a full meltdown in the doorway

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<v Speaker 1>of the restaurant, like like a puddle of humans, kicking

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<v Speaker 1>and screaming and everything else. And then I picked her

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<v Speaker 1>up and I was like, no, Lola, there is no

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<v Speaker 1>dessert tonight, we're going back to the room, and she goes, okay, Mommy,

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<v Speaker 1>I am very very, very very very tired. I am

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<v Speaker 1>very tired. And I was like, fuck, I actually want to desert.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to go home to the room, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, we're going back to the table when

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so fucking annoying when the bribe doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't work, and then I realized that she's clopped it.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows I'm not going to carry through with it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So the bribery no longer works.

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<v Speaker 2>You have ruined our children.

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<v Speaker 1>I got broken by a three year old.

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<v Speaker 2>It was only a matter of time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was she's genius. Though she's a smart kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she was just so utterly exhausted though I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think she knew exactly what she was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>No shame though, I will stop bribing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you give a donnuts to the end?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>She had a donut? I ate them too. You had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>I go back to your list, Laura, there was an

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<v Speaker 2>item on there that it was a total accident, and

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<v Speaker 2>accident not because of it happening. I knew it was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Spit it out.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an accident that you found out about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was peeing in the pool and the okay, in my defense,

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<v Speaker 2>in my defense, the toilets were very far away.

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<v Speaker 4>Inconveniently far away, inconvenient right, And it was also a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit windy as well, so I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 4>get out of the pool dry myself off, because you

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<v Speaker 4>can't like walk stopping wet through you know, the corridors

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<v Speaker 4>of the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, I'm just going to do a

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<v Speaker 2>quick little we wii.

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<v Speaker 1>I think just call it a wee wee, quick little

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<v Speaker 1>we wie. I think I just discovered a new dick

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<v Speaker 1>and that there is nothing attractive about a thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>year old man describing going to the toilet as doing

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<v Speaker 1>a we.

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<v Speaker 2>We Well, that's unfortunate for you, wow, because fucking married

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<v Speaker 2>to me and daddy has to we week.

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy's got a wee wi Okay, we're all in a pool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a small pool. It is a pool where the

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<v Speaker 1>kids are playing we're playing wall. It was a small

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<v Speaker 1>It was the smallest pool on the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like imagine, imagine it was at least

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen meters it's a small pool twenty five meters.

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<v Speaker 1>I swim over to Matt to give him a loving embrace,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck fik five frank flak fike five funk because I

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<v Speaker 2>had just started to wee and I look over and

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<v Speaker 2>You're like a coming for me, and you just had

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<v Speaker 2>this look in your eye where you were like I

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<v Speaker 2>want to cuddle. You're like you're like having a moment

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<v Speaker 2>where you were like, this is great. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>now embrace my husband and just have like a little

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful moment between us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did embrace you, and I had pissed, like Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Streaming out my jab sigh. Sorry, I apologize, Are you okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like weeing profusely, so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrapped my arms around that. And I also he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like sitting spotting and I tried to sit in

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<v Speaker 1>his lap, which in that moment is when I realized

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<v Speaker 1>that I was surrounded by a warmth.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you feel it? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>That was not very nice. And this is where I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask the question for everyone listening, is this

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<v Speaker 1>something that we're doing as adults, like as adults, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're still pinging in the pool and no one's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you're cool of doing it. They're just not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it. And you can't ask the question because

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<v Speaker 2>people will say, oh my god, I never do that.

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<v Speaker 2>They all do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Pull it, put it up on your two doting dad's Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the polls. I want to know because I think,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, I think a lot of adults pick their nose, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they just do it when they're in the car. They

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<v Speaker 1>do How else do you get the boogers out right?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's picking their nose. No one's going to admit to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it something like that? Like? Am I have I

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<v Speaker 1>misunderstood this? Are we still peeing in the pool as adults?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you we in the pool? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I was cold and then they went to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom, but you beet in the pool? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I guess, are we all doing it? Just

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't think we should endorse it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the answer is surprisingly or maybe not surprising. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the answer is going to be no. I think

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<v Speaker 1>people are not doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>For the record, it was one time only. I never

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<v Speaker 2>normally do that in a pool.

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt it. Also, it's kid pool, it's full of

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<v Speaker 1>piss It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the kids. Okay, this is going to sound

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<v Speaker 2>so bad. But Lola at the time, not many people

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<v Speaker 2>were in the pool, and Lola was like, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to do a wee wieze and I was just like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're good, last kid. Let it run free.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Peano was never sponsoring you again.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then I think Alisha was like, Tazzy,

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<v Speaker 2>who is Alisia your sister? Tazzy her daughter? There we

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<v Speaker 2>go makes sense perfect. Tazzy was like, I need a

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<v Speaker 2>wee and Alicia goes, do not do it in the pool,

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<v Speaker 2>and Lola goes, I am, And I was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my kid. Our entire family is just pissing in

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<v Speaker 2>the pool. Nana Ellie as well was just like squatting

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<v Speaker 2>over there doing a pisso also yeah, but she got.

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<v Speaker 1>Home, but she wears Tina pads anywhere. Well, with all

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<v Speaker 1>of those little topics that I brought out of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't recording. You're kidding, Jake. Sorry, Let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>the questions that you guys asked, because Matt you put

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<v Speaker 1>up a question box on Instagram. You asked whatever relationship parenting,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whatever questions you have for us, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do our best answer them. Question number one,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one. Wow. All right, let's get straight to

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<v Speaker 1>the point. How's the sex life with your mum living

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<v Speaker 1>with you? Guys? Now, so if you are not aware,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure most of you are. We live with Matt's mum.

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<v Speaker 1>She moved in with us maybe six months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, I think I think it's I think it's improved.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, why would you suggest that it's improved?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? As an example, Okay, we're away for four nights. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>We're in a room where it's a sofa pull out

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<v Speaker 2>bed and we've got that our bed, so there's no

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<v Speaker 2>kids room.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also no hanky pay here happening When you share

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<v Speaker 1>a room with your children, even though they're asleep and

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 1>they're in another bed and everything else, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>distance between you, if you can still spot them from

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<v Speaker 1>across the room, ain't nothing happening in household.

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<v Speaker 2>We floated with the idea of maybe like doing it

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<v Speaker 2>in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>You floated. I said, no, it was I put it.

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<v Speaker 2>Out to the group. You knocked it back. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I think the sex life has gotten slightly better

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to my mum. Right, hear me out is the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the only reason why we were able to

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<v Speaker 2>have sex on the boat, right is because my mom

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<v Speaker 2>took the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean that's she just came away on

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday with us. Yeah, it's not like a living

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<v Speaker 1>together situation. We don't haven't improved sex life because your

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<v Speaker 1>mom's here. Have you do like your mama?

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't. Don't make it sound weird like that. We

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<v Speaker 2>should utilize her more in that there's a park down

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<v Speaker 2>the road, Okay, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she likes cruising too.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we're really layme Laura in that when we

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<v Speaker 2>get like a little window of free time on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I will go to the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that lame? Is that lame?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not lame.

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<v Speaker 2>We just like, you know, I think other parents out

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<v Speaker 2>there they must be like, oh no, I would do

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<v Speaker 2>that too, like I would get some exercise. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>have the option. Okay, we have the option right now

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<v Speaker 2>when we get this little window of free time, we

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 2>could have sex, but instead we opt to then get

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<v Speaker 2>in the car, go to the gym and work out

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<v Speaker 2>for forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason why we do that, and just to

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<v Speaker 1>add context to it, the reason why we do that

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<v Speaker 1>is because your mum would just be downstairs with the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it, there's nothing down the park okay, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing sexy about sneaking upstairs and going for it when

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the children are downstairs watching Frozen and

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<v Speaker 1>Nanea is making a bolonaise like it doesn't doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>me going. Surprisingly, that's fine. I would say that the

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<v Speaker 1>things are the same. Sex life is the same. We

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<v Speaker 1>always find our house is quite good because Ellie lives

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<v Speaker 1>in it. She lives at the very front of the

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<v Speaker 1>house and we're at the very back of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've got a little bit of distance between us.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing, and it's more criticism of you and

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<v Speaker 1>your memory, Matt, because Matt has like sex blindness. I

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<v Speaker 1>would call it so like we could have sex on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday and then have sex six days later, so

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<v Speaker 1>like on the Thursday the following week, and Matt will

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<v Speaker 1>be like, we've not had sex for a month, and

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<v Speaker 1>he will say that every single time, we on average

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>have sex every single week, and you act as though

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<v Speaker 1>we've had sex once since twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so guilty of that, so bad.

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And You're like, our relationship is so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I don't even know you anymore.

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Because it's been four days.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm over here starving, starving for any bit of affection. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's actually been like twenty four hours. I also

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<v Speaker 2>sex the day before.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Any time that you're like getting like a

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit frustrated by anything, I'm like, you're either hungry

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>or you need a special cuddle. And then you're good.

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>You're so easy, You're such an easy person to read.

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<v Speaker 2>I then fuck me more.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have time, and me more. I've got to work.

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I've got a job. I've got multiple jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I it's not my fault that I love

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<v Speaker 2>you and I love being with you. Okay? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>a crime? Does that make me a bad person?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you blame the guy?

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<v Speaker 2>This one is from mon Hug, Mon Hug, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for your question. She asks, when did you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you two were thriving not surviving with two kids?

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm still surviving. I'm not thriving.

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>We have tiny pockets where we thrive.

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I've ever hit a consistent run

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>of thriving. I think sometimes it can look like that

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>on social media because you're only post the photos of

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the fun staff and the good stuff. I feel as though, yeah,

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>exactly like you said, we have these little moments where

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>like things kind of work really seamlessly, and then you

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>end up in a new phase of parenting your kids,

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>going through some regression about something, just the bribing stops working,

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, you don't feel like

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you're thriving anymore. So I don't know if I ever

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>have felt particularly like I'm killing it as a parent.

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 2>You have a tiny window where let's say the house

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>is being cleaned. Okay, let's say it's a Sunday.

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Whisper it to me.

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 2>We've had like a homebody Sunday where we've cleaned the kitchen,

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 2>we put the washing away, you know, like we're on

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>top of all the daily boring tasks that we have

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 2>at home. I've done some gardening, the kids have been fed.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have filled that green bin, oh stop it excited.

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>It's like that. Sorry, I forgot to add that to

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the list. Feed you have sex with you feel the

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 1>green bin.

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's all it takes. But when you have those

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 2>little pockets and you're like, I feel like I'm on

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 2>top of everything. You're like, this is fucking great, and

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>then it doesn't last for more than half an hour

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and the kids start drawing in the walls and start

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 2>having an attack at each other, and then it all

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>unravels pretty quickly.

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I do think though, having kids at are three years

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>old and five years old. I remember when I first

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>had Mali or I first had Lola, and I would

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>ask people that had older kids, like, does it get

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>any easier? And people who had older kids would always say,

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't get easier, it's just different, and I disagree.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I actually genuinely think now that the kids are older,

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>it is getting easier and easier. It's getting more and

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>more manageable, and so I kind of feel like that's

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>a real scare tactic for people who have younger kids.

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, I still have it just as hard

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>as you do. If you have little kids, you by

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>far have it the hardest because they're so dependent on you.

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>And now that our kids play together so well, you know,

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say the independent because obviously they're not,

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>but like I feel like we're they.

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Drive themselves a daycare. They're now working part time jobs.

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>They packed their own lunchboxes. I mean, you joke, but like, yeah,

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the kids, the kids are great, and I feel like

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it's getting easier and easier and we've got the parenting

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>thing a little bit more downpat, But I don't feel

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>like we're thriving.

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 2>And I do think as well. Daycare makes a huge difference,

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>a huge difference. Once you can have some time away

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>from the kids and they're both in daycare, Like, that's

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 2>a total game changer. You feel like you've got yourself

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>back again.

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, I mean it's always got.

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Out to the parents who don't use daycare. How the

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 2>fuck do you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you're the real saints.

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<v Speaker 2>Well said?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, next question having fun? Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>This is really fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Question number three?

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<v Speaker 2>What is okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your fight style? Scrappy? That's a scrappy fighter. Thatt

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<v Speaker 1>is grudgy. You are a grudgy fighter.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm what makes you say that?

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<v Speaker 1>You take a little while to get over things, So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're a bit grudgy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think your stuf, your best defense is an offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you say this? You're the same. You're the same,

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<v Speaker 1>You're the same.

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<v Speaker 2>You gaslight me.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem that we have you gaslight me. Stop using

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<v Speaker 1>words that you don't know what I mean.

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>You're a gas lighter. The biggest downside to being married

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<v Speaker 2>to a woman who has a podcast all about love

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<v Speaker 2>and relationships is that she's very difficult to argue with.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I am difficult to argue with, and it's because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also quite stubborn. But the problem is that I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have is that you and I have the same

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<v Speaker 1>fight style, so we argue in the same way. Neither

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>of us want to be in the wrong, like, neither

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of us want to have hurt the other person, so

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of jumped straight to defensiveness sometimes. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I say, hey, you did this and this hurt me,

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you'll be like, well, you did this and that's why

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I did that. And we do this and I do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing to you.

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I apologize you very hard to get an apology at

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<v Speaker 2>Laura Burn.

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<v Speaker 1>You apologize more, but it's because you're wrong more.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true, but your fart style, Matt is anytime

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>we're having a disagreement about something and I say, hey,

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you did this and this upset me. You say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can never be right, and you throw your hands

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<v Speaker 1>in the air, and then the argument can't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, oh, once again, Laura Burn's right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's just a really it's quite belittling, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're working through it. Therapy helps.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's move on before we had a real blown argument.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't actually go to therapy. That was a joke.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>We've not You and I have never been to couples therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we do very well at communicating how we

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<v Speaker 1>feel about stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, but we should go to a couple therapy.

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you suggested it recently and I got to upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you get upset.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you suggested it off the back? Do you want

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.959
<v Speaker 1>to remember why you suggested it? Because we hadn't had

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<v Speaker 1>sex in a week. We had had sex in a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and you said, I feel like we're not as can

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<v Speaker 1>did and maybe we should go to therapy. Then we

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>had sex once and you were fine. There's a common ament,

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>a good look.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest when I said that I knew what

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you really that's so mean? Maybe we do need

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<v Speaker 1>therapy after all?

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like I was, like, what, I just think

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 2>it's health. We should go to therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's your love language?

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh, remind me what they are again?

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<v Speaker 1>Physical touch, words of afformation, acts of service, gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>And quality time.

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<v Speaker 1>I am gifts. I'm a zero like I don't need gifts.

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about gifts, Like gifts don't really do

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<v Speaker 1>much for me. I am physical touch, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>words of affirmation and also acts of service. I love

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<v Speaker 1>it when you do shit for me and you're a

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<v Speaker 1>real acts of service person, Like you're very very good

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<v Speaker 1>at doing the things that make my life easier which

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<v Speaker 1>make me feel loved, like paying my parking fines and

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<v Speaker 1>and cleaning out my car.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that I've paid your toll bill in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Other d.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that. I love it when you do those sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of things to me that I like my life admin

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff which I'm particularly bad at it really like that

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel super Lodkay.

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<v Speaker 2>What about when I sent the accountant some of the

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 2>information they needed for.

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<v Speaker 1>Tax like stop is off? That is to me, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate how much of the organization that goes into our life,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes me feel very loved because it lightens

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<v Speaker 1>my load massively lightens.

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>My load too.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>What's yours?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the same, the same, same. I don't know

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>it gives?

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<v Speaker 1>What about the wallet I brought you?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is that?

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Because you bought me a wallet? I already have a wallet.

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I forgot I bought you one for your last birthday.

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 2>So you bought me a wallet when my current wallet's

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>also like totally fine. So I was like, I feel bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad using the new wallet because the like

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<v Speaker 2>then the old wallet becomes redundant. So when the old

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes too old to use, I'll transition to the

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 2>new wallet.

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<v Speaker 1>So what this is? How much I'm not a gifts person.

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I bought Matt a wallet last year and a shirt

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that was too small and a shirt that was too small,

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>which I thought he would really like. And I felt

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<v Speaker 1>so bad this year that this year I bought him

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<v Speaker 1>a wallet because I forgot about the wallet I bought

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>him last year. I genuinely thought you were still using

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the wallet your ex girlfriend gave you. That's where my

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>brain was at.

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and you're like, oh, who'll see about that?

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I can get rid of that girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, sorry, I apologize.

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Why are you apologizing?

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<v Speaker 2>So I should use it the new wallet. Next question,

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<v Speaker 2>what are your thoughts about divorce? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me, as in like do I want to do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or just in general not us. I'm the product of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of divorce, as in, like, my parents got

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<v Speaker 1>divorced a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>How many divorces in total?

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<v Speaker 1>So my mum was married three times, divorced twice. My

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>dad was married twice but then also engaged a third

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>time and separated, so they were pretty much married, but

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>they never actually got married. So three and two.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's your take on divorces? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be very skeptical, not of divorce but

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<v Speaker 1>of marriage. So prior to meeting you, I always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of said I didn't want to get married because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think it was worth the paper that it was

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<v Speaker 1>written on. And I always was like I was never

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<v Speaker 1>the girl that pictured my wedding or the white dress

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>or any of that sort of fairy tale because it

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of just felt like it didn't mean a lot,

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess, And then meeting you, I don't know. We're

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<v Speaker 1>a very good team together, like we are, We very

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>much support each other, We work really well together. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we both saw marriage in a very similar way,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt confident when we were together that if

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<v Speaker 1>shit got hard, you would work on it. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is probably maybe going a bit too deep,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but in my past relationships, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I always lived with a really big fear that they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to just leave, like that if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>pretty enough, or smart enough, or funny enough, if I

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like always on my best game, that if we

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>had a fight, they would leave, you know, because anytime

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>we did have a fight, often they would break up

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>with me or it was like very tumultuous. Whereas like

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>with you, especially when we got pregnant. With when I

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>first got pregnant, your reaction to that pregnancy spoke volumes

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>about the person that you were.

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<v Speaker 2>How did I react? Again, I think I was just excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but okay, so I mean, and like I said.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe this is bitause it was a surprise.

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>It was a surprise, which is like, thank God, you're excited.

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>But so I was in a six year relationship with

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>my ex and he basically was like, if you if

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.240
<v Speaker 1>you ever got pregnant and you didn't have an abortion,

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I'd leave you. That's what he would say. And he

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>would say it so frequently that it was an expectation

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<v Speaker 1>that if I chose to not have an abortion, he

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>was not going to stick around for the relationship. And

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was normal, Like, of course I was

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>hurt by it, but I was so naive to how

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>people treated each other in relationships that I was like, oh,

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm deserving of. And so when I told

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you that I was pregnant, I was so worried that

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you were going to be angry at me, that you

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>were going to be like this is fucked, Like how

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>we're going to fucking manage this? And you burst out

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>laughing and you were so happy, And I was like,

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>this guy is a fucking good egg? Is a really

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>good egg?

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<v Speaker 2>I was, Yeah, I was, Was that right, I'm Mariam? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was similar in that I remember. It's

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<v Speaker 2>weird how certain situations and conversations are those core memories

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>in your mind. My mum and dad split up when

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I was about twelve, I think eleven or twelve, and

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I hated. I hated the fact that their family was

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<v Speaker 2>being split up, even though I can look back and

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<v Speaker 2>I know it was absolutely it had to happen, that

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>it was so unhealthy for us all to be together

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 2>under the one roof.

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>But when you're a kid, you just you can't. You

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>can't understand, like you know what you know right, and

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>even if what you know is toxic, it's all the

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>safest version because it's what you're familiar with totally.

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 2>And I remember when my dad would cook the barbecue

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 2>outside on the veranda. I would always just like it

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 2>was like my job to get the tongs and get

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the plate. It was always just I would be a

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 2>little helper. And I remember my dad was flipping the

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 2>steaks and he looked a him and he said, Mat,

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>if I can give you one advice in this world,

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 2>it's never get married.

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, thanks dad.

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 2>And I remember thinking to myself, I was like, you're wrong,

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 2>going to I'm going to prove you wrong. I remember

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 2>like I'm so stubborn that I was like. I was like, no,

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do it you and I was like,

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make it work.

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel very similar. Like I feel like I, you know,

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you either repeat the things that your parents did in

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>their relationships because that's your blue print, or you like

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 1>really actively choose to be different. And I think even

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>though we're not perfect all the time, and we have

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>our moments where we will accuse each other of gaslighting

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>each other. Like we are so on the same team,

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like we're never opposing each other. And and I have,

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like I have such strong faith and like reassurance and absolute,

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 1>like unwavering faith that even when things get really hard,

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>like we we're in it. We're in the ship together

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and we will work hard to make it better. Yeah,

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and that that's for me. Is like our marriage feels

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>very different to them to what my expectation of marriage was.

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Just because we're so fucking stubborn.

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, listen back to this episode ago, Oh my god,

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>loss back on the podcast again.

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 1>The next question is, Oh, this is one that's not

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>actually about us specifically, but it's around kids at weddings.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>What is your opinion on having children at a wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>I get so annoyed when people will send out an

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:06.760
<v Speaker 2>invite and say that there are no kids allowed.

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel not that annoyed. I feel differently to you.

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that there has to be a limit. I

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>understand why people who don't have children don't understand why

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it's important to have kids there for people who do

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>have children, But I think I think it's okay to

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>not want to have small children at your wedding, Like

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>if you give enough time for preparation of babysitters, etc.

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 1>It's okay to make that, But it's not okay to

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 1>expect breastfeeding mothers to not bring their babies, Like if

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>you've got a baby that's under X amount of months,

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't have a figure in my head,

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>but babies absolutely are and should be there. Are just

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>an extension of their mother. They should be welcome no

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>matter what. But I get why some people don't want kids. However,

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have that rule at our wedding. We were like,

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>bring your kids, we don't care. Obviously, our kids were

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>a massive part of our wedding. We had the dog there,

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>the kids were there.

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Especially. We know how hard it is when you're outside

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>of a big city to a on a babysitter and

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 2>then like b to then try and like you know,

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 2>if you're there, if you've got kids for the ceremony,

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 2>then you have to try and ditch the kids. You

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>have to get back to your accommodation from the babysitter.

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Come back to the wedding. It's so hard logistically, but

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I think having all the kids there made our wedding better.

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>It was so fun and silly, and I think it

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>was amazing. I loved having them there. The only thing

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>was is that most parents didn't want their kids there

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.280
<v Speaker 1>for the reception, so most parents just naturally organized babysitters

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.919
<v Speaker 1>for bed times, et cetera, et cetera. Look, I don't

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>care about kids at wedding. I understand why some people

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.720
<v Speaker 1>are against it, but I think that often people's perception

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>around it shift a little bit after they've had kids themselves.

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Not everyone, but some yeah idiots. Nah, it's not that bad.

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, last question, Laura, that I'm going to ask you,

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 2>partly because I've been asked this question a lot by

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.439
<v Speaker 2>many different people, both in person and online, but also

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>because I've never really had the chance to talk to

0:41:56.680 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 2>you about how you feel, oh God, honestly, about the

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 2>situation we're in right now at home where my mom

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 2>lives with us.

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel well?

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 2>We also can't talk too loud. She's here, she's about

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty meters away, locked in her We did, Okay, Can

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I just say what can I just say?

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I'd say it.

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Her favorite quiz show is The Chase, The Chaser. The Chase.

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:20.359
<v Speaker 1>It's on right now, isn't it.

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 2>And there was like five minutes left and she was

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 2>about to see whether or not the contestant beat the

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>She didn't know. She literally sits on that couch at

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 2>the edge of the seat being like, oh my gosh,

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>like bitting her nails, being like will they win? And

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 2>it was a really good episode. She was like Mum

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, this is great. I don't

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 2>know what's going to happen. And then we started recordings.

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 2>We had to banish her to the room to close

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 2>the door and she couldn't finish watching her quiz.

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that, but I also don't I don't

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>like podcasting with like spectators. So once we hit record,

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Matt was like, hey, Mum, can you turn the TV off?

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 1>And can you go into your bedroom? So Paul Ellie's

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>just sitting in her bedroom right now whilst we record this.

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Sorry about that.

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I would love to know your opinion. You go first.

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I think overall, especially the last two days, Mum has

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 2>been absolutely.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Mom's been here for six months and you're like, the

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:06.399
<v Speaker 1>last two days have been good.

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 2>We've got a good run last two days in particular,

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 2>just because it's been like really really heg dick. You know,

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 2>we were out last night. You know, Mom did the kids.

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>She like, you know, as I was like racing out

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the door, she made me a little meal. She was

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>just she was doing so much to make my life easier,

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 2>our lives easier.

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I love it, Like, and people ask me this question

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>all the time, like living with your mother in law,

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that must be interesting, And it definitely had a moment

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 1>of adjustment, like, you know, it's just having another whole

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>body in the house. But I get along with your

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>mom famously, Like we get along so well. I think

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's hard for her because we often work in

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the nighttime and she wants to have a chat and

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>so like, you know, that's probably the only time when

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel guilty because I want to talk to her,

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>but I have to get work done, et cetera. But

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's great. Also, you need

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>to be nicer to your mom. You're so mean to

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>your mom about her cooking, and she's she does so

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>much and you were like the cook the way I

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>went the cares and be cooked. I'm like, Matt, just

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:07.280
<v Speaker 1>be happy that she got the carrots.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I do you, child, I do need to be nicer

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>to her. She's just so easy to wind up. I

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, I think those character are overcooked. She was like,

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 2>they just they'd just been put on, and she was like,

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 2>howdare you? And I'm like, Mom, I'm joking.

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I no, we love it. But also for me, I

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>think maybe I have a bit of a different upbringing.

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Like I grew up living with my grandparents, and I

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 1>spent so much time with my grandparents as a kid.

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 1>So even when we moved out from living with myn

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>nan and papa, they just moved up the road and

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>my nan and my papa were like real parental figures

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>for me because my mum was a single one with

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>three kids, Like it was you know, it wasn't the

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>easiest upbringing, and I got to have that with my grandparents,

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and my relationship with them was incredibly special, and I

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 1>want that same thing for our kids, and so like

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it makes me really really happy that they get to

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>have that relationship with their nana and they're building that

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>sense of like really connected family. So even like the

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>small inconveniences sometimes of having like an extra person in

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>the house, which is not an inconvenience, but you know

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, it's that's like it doesn't matter. It

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. And I also think like if you swim

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>with the current on stuff, like if you want things

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.240
<v Speaker 1>to be done in a particular way, like your way,

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>then that's when you would get frustrated by things. But

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just happy that things get done, so I don't care,

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>like it really does it her.

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Way because you don't do anything.

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't do anything in his house. I just walk

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>in and I'm like, dinner's there, Washing's been done. It's

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>so nice. I'm like a passenger in my own home.

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:39.439
<v Speaker 2>It must be nice.

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>It must be nice, Laura.

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Before we go, we do have a message from the

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 2>one and only Ashton Wicks. He's having a delicious holiday

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 2>over in Bali and he wanted to send us this.

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 3>I hope you're enjoying your time together on this record,

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.759
<v Speaker 3>and Laura, I appreciate you stepping in. It's tough out

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:01.280
<v Speaker 3>here on the island hot and yes, it must be nice.

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Now I have a hackle fuck that that happens to

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:09.399
<v Speaker 3>come from my diligent and well organized wife. I'm sure

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 3>that Jess, our producer, has shared a photo with you

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 3>which is a tackle box full of snacks now. April

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 3>found this on TikTok. She loves to find little things

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 3>to make things easier.

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Now, this tackle.

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 3>Box is loaded up with all sorts of things. We've

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 3>got oreos, fruits, crackers, anything like that. What she does

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 3>is she does that the night before we get on

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 3>a long flight for the kids. The problem with that

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 3>is it can cause a bit of a mess. And

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 3>usually when kids also see the healthy options and the

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 3>unhealthy options together, you can imagine what they would prefer.

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 3>So I just want to know what you guys think.

0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 3>It seemed to work except for when they saw the

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 3>aureo section and we're quite famished for an oreo. When

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 3>one would say, and I've gone to the bathroom and

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 3>come back and all the areos are gone, but the

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 3>fruit still intact.

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Let me know what you think.

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 3>I miss you guys very much so, and I mean

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 3>i'll see it.

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I'll see you.

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Soon, I guess caybye.

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>That was a really long message. Doing his own podcast

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>was get to the point. I do know this because

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I've witnessed it firsthand. April is very organized, yes, and

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.720
<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel like a very unorganized parent. She's

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the snack parent. She's got things bought and prepped and whatnot.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 1>And where the parents that are like, Oh, our kids

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>are hungry, what are we going to feed?

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I've got a bag of twisties and apple and some lint.

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Take your pick, and I don't mean a lint ball.

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I just mean a piece of dust. That's all you got,

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>some dried skin, pick your nose. We are not that

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>organized as parents, even when we've been on this cruise.

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>So we went on this crew went on a cruise.

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I went on a cruise when we were cruisers. I

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 1>went to the shops and I bought all these snacks

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>with the kids and I put them into a carry

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 1>on bag. And then we got on the cruise and

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:11.760
<v Speaker 1>my sister was like, I don't understand why you didn't

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.479
<v Speaker 1>take the snacks out of the boxes to save yourself room.

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I just packed full boxes of like a total box

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of music bars, a total box of tiny taties, like

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 1>everything just got loaded in. Because I'm not an admin person, as.

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 2>We have discovered, I thought I thought it was great

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>you're snack packing. By the way, I thought it was

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 2>really well done. If you have time, bloody great. If not,

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 2>just buy the kids a pack of chippies on the

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 2>plane and that'll sort them out.

0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think you need to buy them chippies

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>on the plane. I just think that.

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't pretend like you do not buy the kids' chips

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 2>on every single flight that we have ever been.

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.399
<v Speaker 1>On, Prinkles. I don't want people just think you bout

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>them chips. I don't want people to leave this podcast

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:56.879
<v Speaker 1>thinking we only feed our kids smack on planes. We do, yeah,

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and Nana does a really good job of feeding them

0:48:58.400 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>healthy stuff at the other times of the day.

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess my thing is is that there are some

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>mums who are super organized and it helps them feel

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.360
<v Speaker 1>as though they've got, you know, control over the situation

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and they've got everything sorted for their kids. We are

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:15.839
<v Speaker 1>probably not as organized as parents. However, we are very

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 1>adaptable and agile, and our kids eat lots of things,

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:20.399
<v Speaker 1>so like we can go to a cafe and get

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a sandwich or get a wrap or whatever, and our

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>kids are happy to eat that stuff, you know.

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 2>So if you see us on a plane. Please feel

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 2>free to donate any snacks leftovers that you may have

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:30.800
<v Speaker 2>to feed our malnurished children.

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>No, we sound like terrible parents.

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to April. It is a great idea.

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think it's a good idea. Would we do it?

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Probably not? And I also think it's okay. It's okay

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>if you're a parent, you're not that organized. As long

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.240
<v Speaker 1>as you've got a couple snacks in the bags and water,

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:48.919
<v Speaker 1>you're all right. It's a fed.

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Very often we do not have water as well.

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 1>For that kids, stop it. Why are you trying to

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>make out that way? Someone's got to call docs.

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>That's all we have time for. If you've enjoyed this episode, and.

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>If you even this episode, go on and have listen

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to laugh on Cart's great podcast.

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 2>You don't need more listeners. You're like one of the

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:04.879
<v Speaker 2>times and.

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>You know the drill. Tell you mum, tell your dad

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to tell your dot two friends and share the love

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>because you love.

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 2>But please give us a review, subscribe, give us a

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>few comments, absolutely anything you can give away, like think

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of the comments as like snacks with me and ash

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 2>we're starving.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also reach out at two Doting Dads on

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<v Speaker 1>All, And if you didn't like me being on this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't tell us. We don't want that feedback. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not necessary because I come very rarely, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>just skip it.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need that negativity in our lives right now, Laura,

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<v Speaker 2>I will just say one mo thing. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>episode is episode one hundred. I don't know if it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not, maybe it's not, maybe it's one hundred and one. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we are doing something special. We're currently working on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be some type of prize. There will be

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of giveaway mechanic. We don't know what it

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<v Speaker 2>is just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow what I hook?

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<v Speaker 2>I know stay tuned or will be revealed very shortly

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<v Speaker 2>and until then, we'll see you later. Thank you and goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me. Guys, were done, Okay, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna cry in oh oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that necessary? Was that necessary?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it's hot men who cry hot. No it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is. Then fuck me, let's go Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>To Doting Dad's podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

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<v Speaker 2>throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.

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<v Speaker 3>We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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<v Speaker 3>and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander

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<v Speaker 3>peoples to day. This episode was recorded on Gadagal Land